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Ausuka
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Post Post #675  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:03 pm

And i think some people do avoid mentioning their scum partners to not do the associative thing!!!

I guess it is true that it's pretty rare though

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Post Post #676  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:13 pm

In post 674, Ausuka wrote:
In post 559, Aisa wrote:Ah, I actually want to mention this: maybe we should worry about Johnny going down a little too easily here? What do people think scum is likely to want in this gamestate? If scum are the right people they actually don't need to effort very hard here and have this in the bag.

Wait for it...
...
Yes, I'm here to discuss Meg possibly being the mastermind behind it all xx

Aisa i'm really sorry if you already said this and already forgot it but

Can you elaborate on your thoughts here. like my impression is that johnny's effort level is going to be consistently fairly low in any scenario and am wondering why you think otherwise

I don't think I've already talked about it.

My point wasn't so much about Johnny's activity as about everyone else's. It felt like we were slowly but inevitably hurtling towards eliminating Johnny and gamestates like that can be consistent with scum being very happy with who is being eliminated.

To double-explain that's what I meant by "If scum are the right people they actually don't need to effort very hard here and have this in the bag" - it was possible that scum weren't the people we were expecting them to be and that they were just chilling and secretly pushing Johnny from the shadows as it were. What if it was you and Meg for example?

I didn't think it was the most likely option, but my reasoning was:
- if Johnny is scum ok, we're doing fine
' if Johnny isn't scum, especially if it's somebody unexpected like Meg, we're utterly screwed
so I decided I would try to insure against the worst case scenario.

pedit: im tired ok :cry:

:cry: just so we're clear it wasn't meant as a criticism. Sorry to hear you're tired.

I'm gonna leave for today by the way, I could use some sleep too.

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Post Post #677  (ISO)  » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:56 pm

In post 654, Ircher wrote:
Day 4 VC #2Aisa (1) (F-1): Herta ()
Herta (1) (F-1): Aisa ()

Not Voting (1): Ausuka

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to accuse a player of malpractice.
DeadlinesThis phase will end on September 18, 2022 8:00 PM CDT (GMT-5:00) or in (expired on 2022-09-18 20:00:00).

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Post Post #678  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:37 pm

In post 661, Herta wrote:I'm trying to get up to this.

With regard to juice, people have said my push was bad, including you Ausuka, but no one has set out why it was bad. In fact, I asked earlier in the game for someone to tell me why it was bad but no one did. If my push on Juice was bad, why did others vote them out also, and are you conflating bad with being wrong? Is it the difference between being anti-town (which we didn't know until after the fact) or scummy? I have a hard time with people retconning what Juice did there? Even the self-hammer was scummy. So if you want to say my treatment of Juice was bad, I just disagree. What was bad was my treatment of marci probably. I should have pushed her more so that she would show town. In fact I need to go back and look at the marci wagon again. Regardless I need to hammer there so that there was a hammer and someone was limmed, and I though Meg's countdown was the day;'s countdown, which was dumb of me when there's a vc countdown on the same page but whatever.



And yes I

Why do you need to look at it again?

In post 662, Ausuka wrote:
In post 227, Herta wrote:Juice is obvious at this point right. Let's just move on.

I think the primary reason why your push on Juice looks bad is this

It shows confidence which I don't think town should really have in this situation at all so it looks fake

I completely agree with this. I think it's the confidence that is the giveaway.

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Post Post #679  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:44 pm

Ok, I've done some looking at stuff without commenting on it throughout the day. I think I've asked what I need to ask. I still feel conflicted to some degree, and this is a fairly close decision, but I don't want to run this down to deadline. I think there are several points leading me to this - Aisa voting for Johnny, the Juice wagon thing, the fact that Aisa shading Meg and pseudo defending Johnny looks bad but actually I think is counterintuitive for scum in that position? And I think Johnny shading Herta and never voting there while just not talking about Aisa looks worse for Herta than Aisa. In any case, sorry if I'm wrong, etc

VOTE: Herta

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Post Post #680  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:44 pm

GG if you're scum aisa this was well deserved

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Post Post #681  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:47 pm

Oh I was not expecting this so soon!

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Post Post #682  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:47 pm

rip

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Post Post #683  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:48 pm

I was scum, GG though, you and Herta certainly made me work for it

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Post Post #684  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:54 pm

Also unfortunate position for you stuck as the deciding vote while trying to start university :(

We had plenty of luck along the way. The Hiraki nightkill was so lucky since Meg checked Johnny on Night 1!

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Post Post #685  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:20 pm

Day 4 VC #3Aisa (1) (F-1): Herta ()
Herta (2) (HAMMER @ ): Aisa (), Ausuka ()

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to accuse a player of malpractice.
DeadlinesThis phase will end on September 18, 2022 8:00 PM CDT (GMT-5:00) or in (expired on 2022-09-18 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2: Let me know if you spot any errors in the vote count or voting history. I am trying out a new tool for recording the voting history.
3: Let me know if you go by a different pronoun than listed.

Pronoun Key1. Ausuka : any / any / any
2. Aisa : she / her / her
8. Herta : unspecified / unspecified / unspecified

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Post Post #686  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:54 pm

Endgame

Herta, Town Patient, was eliminated Day 4.
Ausuka, Town Patient, was endgamed Day 4.

Congratulations to Aisa, Mafia Multitasking Technologist, who survived and won Day 4! Congratulations to JohnnyFarrar for winning as well.
Last edited by Ircher on Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #687  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:56 pm

Game Links
1. Thesp's Vote Counter
2. Review Thread
3. Game Thread
4. Mod Thread
5. Mafia Thread - (expired on 2022-09-18 19:57:17) for redactions
6. Dead/Spectator Thread
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Post Post #688  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:59 pm

Congratulations, Aisa and Johnny!
Condolences to Town!

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Post Post #689  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:23 pm

Ok, here is a bunch of thoughts!!

Does anyone have any tips on how to enjoy playing as mafia? It was very fun at times, but it was a bit stressful other times, how do I get rid of the stressful aspect of it?

JohnnyFarrar wrote:I would take this partner again 1000 times. This scum thread is great.

<3 <3
Absolutely same! You were a great scum partner and always gave me reassurance when I needed it. (It probably wasn't very hard to tell when I was in need of it given I complained very liberally in the scum PT hahaha.)

In post 305, Ausuka wrote:Scum are probably in {Herta, aisa, Johnny}

This was a thing on Day 1, Aus had great reads!

- Herta's read on me was very consistently correct and I was very relieved they never pushed me much until Day 4.
- Juice also divined a correct read on me.
- I hope I get to play with you as town sometime marci - getting shaded all the time sounds really frustrating and I'm sad I didn't find a miselim that wasn't you on Day 2 :(
- Thanks for the great setup Ircher and RH. I felt like a child in a candy shop when I got my Role PM and I'm gutted we didn't actually get to play with your mechanics (although I do think it probably made the game easier for scum on net).
- I though everyone was lovely to play with, despite the impression you might have got from my occasional shading.

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Post Post #690  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:25 pm

Also smh can't believe I spent all that time worrying about the fact I was multitasking when Meg was multitasking too :lol:

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Post Post #691  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:01 pm

This game was a minefield of emotion for me. I wanted to try hard but aussie and Marci were right there, and I didn't wanna let aisa down because she was very clearly trying hard, so I ended up back burnering to my team's detriment. Aisa is great at this game
Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
"In my heart, Johnny will always be scum" - Not_Mafia

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Post Post #692  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:08 pm

The mafia thread is now released.
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Post Post #693  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:11 pm

Don't you say that Johnny! You were never and never will be a letdown!

It's true I was such a keen bean, but I like to think I'm a self-aware keen bean at least and never apologise or feel bad for being less keen :')

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Post Post #694  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:11 pm

In post 693, Aisa wrote:Don't you say that Johnny! You were never and never will be a letdown!

It's true I was such a keen bean, but I like to think I'm a self-aware keen bean at least and you shuold never apologise or feel bad for being less keen :')

EBWOP

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Post Post #695  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:31 pm

I thought I said I'd be back but maybe not. Good jobs mafs.

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