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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:24 pm

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yeah probably
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:25 pm

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In post 273, Cephrir wrote:my head hasn't quite gotten into this game and that's unfortunate but a real thought i do have is that somnus is just scum giving up
I don't think that's wrong. But I also think it would be much better to pressure big hood inhabitants first before killing there.

I've been actually mulling for a while if the best move here, provided we all agree that Somnus is scum and are
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:29 pm

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The board game card game in me immediately reflexes to say that giving your opponents choices is worse than not doing so
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:29 pm

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*gamer
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:30 pm

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I have therapy in half an hour someone be toxic so I can talk about something that's not my family
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:34 pm

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In post 279, Isis wrote:I have therapy in half an hour someone be toxic so I can talk about something that's not my family
ONLY
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:12 pm

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In post 277, Isis wrote:The board game card game in me immediately reflexes to say that giving your opponents choices is worse than not doing so
But have you considered - a chance to eliminate the big-hood-scum day one?
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:12 pm

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Commit to the bit
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:26 pm

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In post 276, Lucian wrote:
In post 273, Cephrir wrote:my head hasn't quite gotten into this game and that's unfortunate but a real thought i do have is that somnus is just scum giving up
I don't think that's wrong. But I also think it would be much better to pressure big hood inhabitants first before killing there.

I've been actually mulling for a while if the best move here, provided we all agree that Somnus is scum and are
correct
on it, to eliminate in the big hood. Forces scum into making a choice of either killing in the small hood (and thus sealing Somnus as scum even more), or killing in the big hood (and narrowing the pool).
tbh im not really concerned about scum killing in the small hood i think they will just never ever do that
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:53 pm

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TBH I don't really have any good reason to scumread anyone in the big hood, so Pooky's lack of content is just what I'm going with for now.
I really don't see why people are giving him a pass here.

Second guess would probably be Cephrir? I think he might have attempted to pocket me immediately by townreading me. But maybe I'm just overthinking it.

Other than that, idk. If I end up getting eliminated, that's still a better choice than Somnus.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:14 am

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In post 254, Cephrir wrote:is it scummy to lack conviction on page 7
yes
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:14 am

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In post 255, Dannflor wrote:
In post 248, SirCakez wrote:could the SCRRDBEAR all caps posting style be a smokescreen for scum?
why would this not just be the gimmick for the alt

why is this such an empty question
because I am scum trying to make up stuff so that I look like I am town
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:15 am

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In post 256, Dannflor wrote:
In post 251, SirCakez wrote:
In post 226, Dannflor wrote:does it help you guys if I do it in not stream of consciousness format because it looks pretty clear in my head

[lucian, isis]
[pooky, Radja]
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[cephrir, sircakez]
why am I at the bottom here?
idk man the questions and observations you are making feel very surface level

you lampshading that fact in helps only marginally
wow you don't know me very well
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:16 am

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hmm actually I take back my Somnus read I feel like they would have showed back up by now as town

VOTE: somnus
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:23 am

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In post 288, SirCakez wrote:hmm actually I take back my Somnus read I feel like they would have showed back up by now as town

VOTE: somnus
This feels like a scum-on-scum vote.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:52 am

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why would I start bussing here now? if Somnus and I were buddies I'd fire up a wagon on someone else not roll over onto them
and I very rarely bus after Among Us Mafia where I bussed my whole team then lost lol
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:15 am

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Can we not eliminate from the small hood?
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:31 am

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In post 290, SirCakez wrote:why would I start bussing here now? if Somnus and I were buddies I'd fire up a wagon on someone else not roll over onto them
and I very rarely bus after Among Us Mafia where I bussed my whole team then lost lol
I think some things are kind of... universally understood currently. Somnus is scum; eliminating in the small hood is disadvantageous as we don't yet have a clear idea who scum in the big hood is.

You obviously agree with the first bit. But I don't get the feeling your vote is a pressure vote, exactly, as I don't think you believe one extra vote will suddenly make Somnus play. So what are you hoping to achieve, exactly? The answer is towncred upon a Somnus flip. Somnus flipping red doesn't help the town currently, because we don't actually have to kill him to solve the game, but if you're scum with him, it does help you. The town should absolutely be focusing on the big hood, because - Somnus flips red,
then what
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This is an even worse look if Somnus is town, but I refuse to believe that we're in that universe.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:33 am

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In post 283, Cephrir wrote:tbh im not really concerned about scum killing in the small hood i think they will just never ever do that
That's partly my point. If we can agree that Somnus is most likely scum, then the scumteam has tough choices to make in the night.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:34 am

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VOTE: SirCakez

To be clear, I still think Radja is scummy - but I also think sirCakez/Radja competing wagons would be very good for the gamestate.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:35 am

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In post 284, Radja wrote:TBH I don't really have any good reason to scumread anyone in the big hood, so Pooky's lack of content is just what I'm going with for now.
Do you think everyone else's content has been good and townie?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:43 am

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Oh, if Cephrir is right about scum being unlikely to shoot in the small hood, then SirCakez's vote makes even more sense as a bus vote.

Think about it - Somnus is kind of universally understood to be scum. But if we miseliminate someone from the big hood, then what? You obviously want to shoot in the small hood (as Somnus is likely going to die one way or another), but doing so feels wrong because damning your buddy even further feels wrong. But, if he flips Day 1? You're free to shoot in the small hood as those people are then conftown, and you aren't shrinking the big-hood-pool as you're doing so.

So SirCakez's argument of "I wouldn't bus here as scum" is nonsense, IMHO.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:39 am

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Prodding Somnus.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:47 am

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In post 292, Lucian wrote:
In post 290, SirCakez wrote:why would I start bussing here now? if Somnus and I were buddies I'd fire up a wagon on someone else not roll over onto them
and I very rarely bus after Among Us Mafia where I bussed my whole team then lost lol
I think some things are kind of... universally understood currently. Somnus is scum; eliminating in the small hood is disadvantageous as we don't yet have a clear idea who scum in the big hood is.

You obviously agree with the first bit. But I don't get the feeling your vote is a pressure vote, exactly, as I don't think you believe one extra vote will suddenly make Somnus play. So what are you hoping to achieve, exactly? The answer is towncred upon a Somnus flip. Somnus flipping red doesn't help the town currently, because we don't actually have to kill him to solve the game, but if you're scum with him, it does help you. The town should absolutely be focusing on the big hood, because - Somnus flips red,
then what
?

This is an even worse look if Somnus is town, but I refuse to believe that we're in that universe.
uh what? I want to lim Somnus so that we can solve based on the flip lol. I think Som is scummy but I don't trust shit til I see the flip. I don't like this strategy you're doing basically solving the game as if Somnus has already flipped scum.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:49 am

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You gonna push me for it, SirCakez?
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