Can you elaborate on this? Why wouldnt I divide it like this?In post 17, Cephrir wrote:My first scalding hot take is that Radja would not have divided the hoods like this and is therefore town
I feel like this is the work of someone up on site culture
To be fair, I pretty much only now you and Cakez. So I have no clue who the "small name players" are.In post 45, Cephrir wrote:to my mind, the small hood contains 3 small name players (because i have not heard of them) while the large hood contains all of the big players. i feel like you wouldn't have done that to yourself - it's too likely the players who play often will be able to find each other as town if they were all town. i think the large hood scum decided to carry the game, i think they are likely a veteran planning to blend in with a crowd they know well, i think because they are a veteran they most likely called the shot on how to divide the hoods, and the presence of strong players in their hood will also explain why they don't die at night.In post 27, Radja wrote:Can you elaborate on this? Why wouldnt I divide it like this?In post 17, Cephrir wrote:My first scalding hot take is that Radja would not have divided the hoods like this and is therefore town
I feel like this is the work of someone up on site culture
I was thinking I would lock you as town if we were in different neighbourhoods, but that didn't happen.
Also hi Cakez, I remember you too!
granted this is partly stemming from my belief that eliming in the small hood was clearly optimal which i'm not so sure about anymore
I agree on Lucian, I'm not sure about DannIn post 85, SirCakez wrote:I think Dann and Lucian are town for pg 3
dammit, I've read about not using that word anymore and I've had to remind myself multiple times already, but it still slipped in there. Sorry!In post 151, Lucian wrote:Heads up, you can't use this word anymore.In post 149, Radja wrote:lynching
I'm not thrilled by Somnus' return posts. Similar to Radja. Do you think I'm mafia pushing you in bad faith? That I'm misguided? Any thoughts on anyone in the big hood?
Well, not really actually?In post 157, Lucian wrote:For what it's worth, while I do really think Somnus is scum, I don't think eliminating him right now is the right move, as I said earlier. So I am more than fine to shift my focus onto the big hood for the time being. I also think seeing Somnus and Scared Bear solving the big hood would be useful.
You say this, yet you're the only person not voting. Do you really have no thoughts on anyone in the big hood?In post 156, Radja wrote:I'm very unsure about the big hood, so I'd actually prefer voting there to get more information and to also force mafia to make a decision on who to eliminate at night.
Maybe? I'd appreciate it more if you'd give me a recap of your reads.In post 160, Lucian wrote:I think I have made all my thoughts on the big hood players pretty clear, no?In post 159, Radja wrote:What about you?
You tell me?In post 165, SCRRRDBEAR wrote:KILL FIRE BEFORE IT KILLS YOU
ARE YOU BEING GENUINE OR ARE YOU TRYING TO CREATE AN OUT FOR SOMNUS?In post 145, Radja wrote:^scratch that, you've explained it already
Small Hood: ScaredBear an Lucian are probably town?
Unless:
- Scared Bear is mafia
- wants to make sure we vote in the small hood for the mafia in big hood to have better odds later
- will probably get voted out on day 2 if Somnus happens to be town? But that leaves the big hood wide open, which might be a good call for them.
Or I'm wrong about Lucian..
Big Hood: not a clue tbh
I guess I could vote Somnus, but I'm not convinced eliminating from the small hood is a good idea.
In post 171, SirCakez wrote:also imma gonna be a filthy pre-flip associator and say this makes me think Somnus is town cuz Ceph put this scummy ass vote on themIn post 135, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: Somnus
BEAR POWA
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I disagreeIn post 242, Isis wrote:pooky posted a readslist
There's only 1 scum in the big hood. So Cakez going for Somnus at the moment I was getting votes might not be the best play, but there's 0% we're scum together so I don't see why he's getting heat for it?In post 367, Lucian wrote:Another reason why it rubbed me the wrong way is that SirCakez has been sorting within the big hood, and people were in the middle of running up Radja (who is in the big hood), andIn post 361, Lucian wrote:You've been voting him for almost 10 pages. I don't approve of your strategy; but there's consistency there, it feels like something you actually believe in. While SirCakez suddenly decided that we gotta eliminate Somnus, and not only that, he also made sure that we all know he does not townread Somnus at all! Even though the only reason he had for townreading him was an associate read with you, which ended up being made from incorrect logic anyway! And he's not trying to understand my argument, he's just shading me and dismissing it! I don't like it!thatis where SirCakez decides to start voting Somnus? Town knows that we need to catch the big-hood-scum to win. So the timing of voting for Somnus JUST AS people are actually voting someone up to sort them is...? I just don't get it from a town perspective.
In post 386, Lucian wrote:...In post 382, Radja wrote:There's only 1 scum in the big hood. So Cakez going for Somnus at the moment I was getting votes might not be the best play, but there's 0% we're scum together so I don't see why he's getting heat for it?In post 367, Lucian wrote:Another reason why it rubbed me the wrong way is that SirCakez has been sorting within the big hood, and people were in the middle of running up Radja (who is in the big hood), andIn post 361, Lucian wrote:You've been voting him for almost 10 pages. I don't approve of your strategy; but there's consistency there, it feels like something you actually believe in. While SirCakez suddenly decided that we gotta eliminate Somnus, and not only that, he also made sure that we all know he does not townread Somnus at all! Even though the only reason he had for townreading him was an associate read with you, which ended up being made from incorrect logic anyway! And he's not trying to understand my argument, he's just shading me and dismissing it! I don't like it!thatis where SirCakez decides to start voting Somnus? Town knows that we need to catch the big-hood-scum to win. So the timing of voting for Somnus JUST AS people are actually voting someone up to sort them is...? I just don't get it from a town perspective.
You areliterally quotinga post where I explained why I think SirCakez's timing of the Somnus vote is suspicious. How did you end up at "SirCakez and Radja are buddies"? Is nobody reading my posts? Am I not speaking clearly?
I don’t think any townie would believe that Somnus flipping town gives us nothing to work with. Especially because Lucian is so eye-blindingly obvious town in this game. I don’t think anyone has not town read Lucian at this point?
A Somnus town flip would break the game wide open and this post seems like a fake fear designed to look pro-town. If my current theory about the game is correct then this also fits because I don’t think scum want to flip Somnus right now. If Somnus is town, flipping them puts extreme pressure on a mafia member who is otherwise exerting a lot of thread presence.
If I’m wrong and Somnus is scum, I would expect Somnus’ partner to be ready and willing to bus them. I would honestly probably clear Radja in this scenario.
All that being said, if Somnus is town, I think scum in the big hood always has to be ready to turn and believably bus their buddy due to the inevitability of the Somnus flip and the nature of the setup.
That’s why I find this hedging to be especially scummy if my scrrredbear!scum and Somnus!town theory is correct. Look at all the words Radja devotes to the possibility that BEAR might be scum. It reads partnery to me.
I am also unclear how Radja progressed from thinking eliminating in the small hood was good, to thinking eliminating in the big hood was more rewarding, to thinking eliminating in the small hood is actively bad.
I think you're trying to gamesolve. I think you had some valid points to target me when you posted that wall. Maybe I should have responded to that post a little more in depth. But I was phone reading and I didn't want to go through the pain of trying to make a coherent post there.In post 485, Dannflor wrote:Radja why aren't you feeling Dannflor scum
The way you approach the game just reads as town. I don't know how else to explain it.In post 486, Isis wrote:Why isn't Isis sucmmmm
so why are you townreading her, if not that?In post 490, Dannflor wrote:Isis is very good at replicating this in her scum game and she knows I know that which is probably why she's going huh at me so strongly town reading herIn post 489, Radja wrote:You're nonchalant in a way, but you also question things at the right time.
I mean, just that doesn't really validate you "so strongly townreading her"?In post 492, Dannflor wrote:partially laziness, partially I think she'd be playing a little more proactively as scum, partially she's the only one in the big hood I think hasn't done anything suspicious
I'm in the process of rereading so I'll get back to you
no it's not.
I have no recollection of this game at all.In post 783, Cephrir wrote:i recall i had occasion to look at that game a year or two ago and was amazed by how little memory i had of itIn post 774, fferyllt wrote:I'm not sure you could extinguish the meta channel I read in your play.In post 764, Radja wrote:Alright, just a quick thought dump here:
fferyllt is obviously a very competent mafia player. I've played with her before and I'm pretty sure she's fooled me before.
I don't see Lucian or ScaredBear being scum yet.
If not for the Somnus interactions, I don't know how I'd read this slot.
Either way, I have 0 interest in eliminating from the small hood, so I guess I don't need to worry about being wrong?
fferyllt townreading me: I think I'd expect that from town fferyllt, but scum fferyllt would probably try to pocket me too? The fact that she's mostly townreading me because I don't feel very pressured is not great though, for multiple reasons:
- I think I'm one of the least trusted players in the big hood, so I'm kinda expecting to get eliminated at some point?
- I actually WANT people to look at the big hood first, and I want mafia to kill in the big hood. So I don't really care if I'm being looked at here, see previous point.
- I haven't played mafia in forever, so I'm not sure a meta read on me is going to be very accurate
- There's no power roles to get nervous about having to out.
Soooo idk about fferyllt. Buuuut I'm not going to vote her today.
The fact that both ScaredBear and fferyllt seem to want to flip Pooky worries me though. I don't see the small hood scum bussing his partner on day 1?
However, fferyllt has been very reluctant about hammering. So maybe that's just fferyllt stalling?
The last miselim of you where I voted you, a scum player had fake-guiltied you.
Anyway, more to the point, if you ARE the least trusted member of the big hood, that's a reflection on the big hood imo.
Ceph, you probs don't remember much of it but I'll point back to the DeDeDe mini. Rajma's alt was kept around for elo mislim. Which I'd like to think wouldn't have happened if Morph had improbably still been alive at that point.
