Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

[Garlic Bread]

The smell of Garlic permeates the air, oh how I wish I could have just One bite.
Let us depart on our Quest and obtain the mythical bread
Some wisdom whispers through the Air
First is the Worst
VOTE: SheepSaysMeep

[Garlic Bread]

Burnt are Your posts
Thirty One is the Worst

VOTE: TheStatusQuo

[Garlic Bread]

I'm planning on making a concerted effort to move away from rapid fire spam posting this game and move towards "unhinged whiteboarding screenshots"

It Seems you are Doing a Poor job
Just as a Conspirator I would expect To do

[Garlic Bread]

A Rating of the Heat of Every Player

200C

SkyGazer
HellBooks

190C

Tris

177C

Xoflef
SheepSaysEep

140C

TheStatusQuo

[Garlic Bread]

i've deciphered hellbooks' secret message

T - tris
R - really
A - aint
I - into being
T - town
O - or
R - robbing garlic bread

thanks for letting me know who your buddy is!!

no!!!!!!@ im so imto garlic bread. i eat it all the time. i need garlic bread. im garlics bread's biggest fan!!!!!

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: garlic bread

Easier to steal it if it's dead. No fighting back.

Skygazer maybe town or feels guilty about me carrying and they're trying this game.

Inconsistency Is Detected
Vote seems Random Vote Stagey
Combo'd with Serious Read

Would you have Other reads on Top of Skygazer?

[Garlic Bread]

whats the actual trying that they're doing?

MindMeld With This One
My Read Is based On Tonal Smell

[Garlic Bread]

bread's talking about me silly!

I Spoke About the Sky One

[Garlic Bread]

Added Baltar, Unfortunately His Oven is Broken it Seems

200C

SkyGazer
HellBooks

190C

Tris

177C

Xoflef
SheepSaysEep
VPBaltar

140C

TheStatusQuo

[Garlic Bread]

whats the actual trying that they're doing?

MindMeld With This One
My Read Is based On Tonal Smell

what was there to mind meld with sky on!

I Do not Think That Sky's Content Is Towny in Content
The Methodology Used to Speak It is Though

[Garlic Bread]

Added Baltar, Unfortunately His Oven is Broken it Seems

200C

SkyGazer
HellBooks

190C

Tris

177C

Xoflef
SheepSaysEep
VPBaltar

140C

TheStatusQuo

why are xof and sheep on the same level as baltar?

XofLef Has Too Little
Sheep Has Something Off I Need Time to Analyse
VPBaltar May Just Have a Quirk and Needs to Explain, But I am Not a Fan At the Moment

[Garlic Bread]

I think my tone is town.

I Think you Need to Get in The Kitchen and Stop Playing with The Flour

[Garlic Bread]

Sky is actually engaging in rvs and doing stuff. I was just scum with them and it was like constant lurk from the start

The Heat rises With This One

[Garlic Bread]

I Have Actaully Deduced A Scenario for The Tiger
And I Ask The Tiger to Not Let their Situation Affect Their Natural Instinct If Correct
That is All

[Garlic Bread]

A View Into The Tigers Employment History in the Restaurant Business Reveals My Read to be PreMature

VOTE: Alisae

I Believe in This by Process Of Elimination

[Garlic Bread]

In The Competitive Team Based Format The Tiger was Very Into Looking As If he Was Working while Actually Slacking Off

While A View into A game As a Good One he Makes a Similar Remark That I initially Felt was A Preemptive Excuse For Different Play For Being a Mafia Roll

Also I'm going to be low effort until tomorrow probably. Lots of football to watch today and a post count to stay under, but I'll be my usual spammy self then.

Try not to give me 30 pages to read in the meanwhile.

[Garlic Bread]

Who is HPE tho

HPE is The Lord Bowser, The One who Defeated The Mushroom Kingdom in a Great Team Battle

[Garlic Bread]

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food

[Garlic Bread]

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food

If you're asking me for a reads list, I don't have one. Extremely tentative on sky, and have no reads anywhere else at this point.

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: VP Baltar
This one has made the unfortunate mistake of turning off his oven.
I believe they have access to the recipe book and are listing ingredients that we are trying to figure out.

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: VP Baltar
This one has made the unfortunate mistake of turning off his oven.
I believe they have access to the recipe book and are listing ingredients that we are trying to figure out.

How do you feel about shea?

The Doors to my Kitchen are Closed to you.
Entry Demands you Provide the Delicious Dish I requested Earlier

[Garlic Bread]

I think vp baltar is a villager

Please Explain your Process

[Garlic Bread]

I Based my Scumread on The Tiger for Reasons that did Not match prior Experience
They are Conspiratorial to me Currently

As my Basis was Flawed, the Recipe had to be Adjusted

[Garlic Bread]

And You are Not just Praising a Conspirator(Tris) to Egg On a Vote for a Conspirator(Tiger)
As the Theory That Sticks Out to me is That VP Baltar Piggybacked a Town vote onto a Town and You are Sidelining this interaction to Boost the Town Wagon

[Garlic Bread]

Perhaps I Revealed my Plate a little Soon, but currently I have delicious Lamb with a side of a nice Cigarette for my Meal

[Garlic Bread]

I can Reveal My Recipe after the Cake finishes Baking

[Garlic Bread]

I think ur theory is a hella goofy stretch and it's a little wolfy how it's based on assuming multiple pre-flip things

Having A Logical Process is Scummy?
Are You being Defensive or Do you Actually Believe my Process is Indicative Of Something Bad?

[Garlic Bread]

ok I changed my mind I think the recent sequence is villagery of u

but the thinking was that: insinuating someone is wolfy based on this person A being villager and this person b being villager and this person c being a wolf in a 9 person game is wolfy in a forced way

To That, as the Young Ones say, "Issue with Skill". To Be able to Form Recipes and Cooking Theory is but Second Nature to me.

[Garlic Bread]

Let Me Conceptualize My Theory, As I Find it a Little Funky That You Find it as You call it "A Goofy Stretch":

1.

VOTE: garlic bread

Easier to steal it if it's dead. No fighting back.

Skygazer maybe town or feels guilty about me carrying and they're trying this game.

The Inconsistency of RVS + a Serious Read. I believe This To be a Pocket attempt By Mr Cigarette Man on the One Who Gazes Up - Which Was my Initial Hunch

2.

Sky is actually engaging in rvs and doing stuff. I was just scum with them and it was like constant lurk from the start

i remember them being active in rvs that game

I mean, maybe I had a subjective negative read of it since I was scum with them. But it felt to me like a constant "more later" type posting. Given this is a similar player list, I wouldn't expect them to be posting much at all if they rolled scum.

I had Bookmarked This Interaction as I had felt that Mr Cigarette Man had Shown They Know Too Much and the Young Lady Tris Correctly found that This Read had an incorrect Basis.

We Then Segway into Point

3.

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food

If you're asking me for a reads list, I don't have one. Extremely tentative on sky, and have no reads anywhere else at this point.

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

4.

VOTE: shea

Why not

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.
He Also Calls upon The Book of Hell to vote Alongside him, which I find a Little Odd for a Shrug Vote

As I Do not Have any Explaination from The Cigarette Man, I can Only Draw upon Context such as This:

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

And Now we get to the Lamb

1.

I think vp baltar is a villager

This Is the First Ingredient the Lamb has Presented in This Kitchen, and it is followed by this post:

garlic bread started hella wolfy but I think it was the gimmick and now I think theyre a villager

Which Leads me To Believe that This is a Direct reaction to My vote here:

VOTE: VP Baltar
This one has made the unfortunate mistake of turning off his oven.
I believe they have access to the recipe book and are listing ingredients that we are trying to figure out.

The Statement "started hella wolfy" Felt Discrediting of my Cooking Ability and a way To Split The Ingredients to Make 2 Dishes at the Same Time
Which is Odd when Put next to This Post here:

garlic bread posts are unreadable

As One who is Not Reading The Posts, How can You Come to a Conclusion on Which Ingredient to Use?

I buy his skygazer wolfread as the first good serious thing (u did the first serious stuff but I didnt like it)

+ I buy into his desire for shea pressure

This Is Odd as It seems that The Lamb is Not Actually Reading the Cigarette Man's posts. He Did not call the One Who Gazes Up a "wolf".
Which Gives Me The Impression That the Lamb is Just Making Stuff Up while Having the Answers.


I would like to See how things Progress from Here but This is my Leading theory with the Ingredients in front of Me.

[Garlic Bread]

Added Baltar, Unfortunately His Oven is Broken it Seems

200C

SkyGazer
Tris
HellBooks

190C

TheStatusQuo

177C

Xoflef

100C

SheepSaysEep
VP Baltar

[Garlic Bread]

200C

SkyGazer
Tris
HellBooks

190C

TheStatusQuo

177C

Xoflef

100C

SheepSaysEep
VP Baltar


My Apologies, I Fiddled with the Wrong Knob on the Stove

[Garlic Bread]

I Ask That All Fully Read my Long Recipe I have Whipped up, as I understand it, Many Young Chefs are Allergic to Reading Recipes that have more than 3 Ingredients

[Garlic Bread]

I am doubling down on my bread town read and I think sheeps reaction here is sus.

I agree that I don't really believe in making a tenuous chain of logic based off of multiple preflip associations as a valid method for finding scum but on the other hand calling it wolfy seems kind of silly to me.

When have you ever seen scum do that?

To Be Fair I Independently Find their Play Scummy and I am just Able to Link the Plausible Scenario. I am just Showing what I Assume without any Explanations, of which I Have asked Baltar a Few Times.

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: garlic bread
Cases are wolfy

[Garlic Bread]

You Show Up to the Kitchen Late and Decide to Use Dull Knives, What a Joke

[Garlic Bread]

Either the gimmick has grown on me, or I'm just fluent in them from way too many Survivor games. I kinda like what the Bread is laying down, it's followable. Idk if I agree with any of the assertions so far, but there's nothing too outrageous there.

Unvote

Feels pretty tin foil to me (and not just because they are making absurd leaps about me).

I could see an argument that it's too absurd to be scum, but followable in terms of logical seems like a stretch.

Care To Reply To any of the Points and Ellaborate on Your Thoughts in the Posts I quoted?

[Garlic Bread]

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food
If you're asking me for a reads list, I don't have one. Extremely tentative on sky, and have no reads anywhere else at this point.
This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

is it? what is the Thing That is Being backPedaled?

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.

why is baltar's vote scummier than mine?

I Have Already explained My Point Of view on the Matter, Please Defer To My Wall.

I Am Sensing you Believe that I am Defending a Scumread Of Yours So You Confirmation Bias That We are Scum Together now.

Explain Your Vote on The Tiger and I will Break it Down.

[Garlic Bread]

The fact you are trying to build a multi-point case on page six is pretty absurd on its face though. I find it hard to believe you're taking the game that seriously at this point.

The Early Game is When The Mafia are Weakest and Are Uninformed of the Gamestate.

I See No Fault in Early Reads like that.

[Garlic Bread]

what if had a big board where i pinned notes like a detective solving the Murder

I have That in My Kitchen actually

[Garlic Bread]

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

is it? what is the Thing That is Being backPedaled?

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.

why is baltar's vote scummier than mine?

I Have Already explained My Point Of view on the Matter, Please Defer To My Wall.

my apologies, i messed up my Quote. i have corrected it in your Quote. i was in fact quoting your Wall. as i see it, earlier baltar said they had a townread on skygazer. and then later also said they had a townread on skygazer. he never claimed to have anything more than that.

I Am Sensing you Believe that I am Defending a Scumread Of Yours So You Confirmation Bias That We are Scum Together now.

Explain Your Vote on The Tiger and I will Break it Down.

no i do not think that. i want you to explain first before i Write the Recipe For You.

Well I Can See the Reason You Voted The Tiger there as It was My initial Vibe too, If You Recall I also Voted There.

With The One Who Gazes Up, I Already Forgot and am Tired but that Was me talking about the Lamb.

[Garlic Bread]

Phone posting so I'm dropping the capitalization gimmick here for now.

Cigarette man: regardless of the reasoning(that's not what my read boils down too anyways) - I have a townread on most players here and you're in the bottom 4, and by extension I see a plausible pairing between you and sheep.
Sure - it could be xof - survivor player tongues are tricky - but at this point they're trending as Towny

A lot of my conclusions are extrapolations based on connections I see, correct, but there are other supporting arguments - such as what you *aren't* doing, which is evaluating other slots as far as I can see, and the aforementioned townread on others.
Alisae entrance was towny here, even if a little cringey

I am actually more sure on sheep being a hit than you but I want to see how you play out with pressure.
At this point I'm looking at
[Baltar, sheep, xof] with a blindspot in *maybe* hellbooks/Shea

This is just how I predict players will trend from my PoV and I am able to change my mind if you prove my view is incorrect by townclearing yourself - but until then I cannot really see you as town here, or at least someone who isn't going to be resolved.

[Garlic Bread]

The inconsistency was with the seriousness of vote <-> read and that was what peaked my interest
"OH I'm going to vote the person talking weird and make up an excuse, but let me slap a townread on someone who might know how I play as mafia because it's fresh in their mind"

I do agree - your townread does make sense, but to me it feels like it is strongly in the range of TMI and i want to see what your scumreads are.

[Garlic Bread]

Who am I wrong on then?

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

Forgot to add "if you are a PR"

[Garlic Bread]

Just want to add - mainly to VP but applies to all. Please don't lower your play to "avoid a nightkill", just play normally because chances are mafia will sew you stick out if you do that.
Others also see difference from standard play and will latch on and then that wastes tike.

So just assume you're VT and play accordingly. Don't rely on your claim as a get out of jail free card until it's really necessary.

Maybe I should put my vote back on you actually

Are you saying this to see how others react first before committing?

[Garlic Bread]

I don't think it's some secret wisdom that commonly PRs get run up in games very often for precisely the reason of playing to dodge the nightkill, regardless - from your point of view, yes I'm incorrect on you - what do you think of sheep, do you think they're opportunisticly playing around your slot?
And another question, my apologies, do you believe my process comes from scum, and why?

[Garlic Bread]

I don't have a reads list.

I don't expect you as a player to have one, but do you have a gth PoE, towncore, or whatnot to start yet?

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: sheep switching to my primary read - as I don't wish to create an environment of Garlic Bread vs VP Baltar - and an act of good faith to bring baltar into the game without feeling choked out

[Garlic Bread]

I do think you're trying hard to look protown (reads list, wall case, PR warnings), which i inherently have a negative reaction to. We don't need a thread daddy, thx.

I happen to have seen in recent times a lot of poor PR play in that sense so its immediately on my mind - and in particular with you in the past when you were PR

[Garlic Bread]

I do think you're trying hard to look protown (reads list, wall case, PR warnings), which i inherently have a negative reaction to. We don't need a thread daddy, thx.

Those are all things that come from town more than scum and you should know that

[Garlic Bread]

sheep saying "i think vp baltar is town" and garly saying "explain" and sheep saying "ok here is why": i am reading this sequence as slightly +scum for sheep, maybe like half a plus (﬩scum)

im head canoning garly as george bailey (the theory of acronym)
also ++﬩"drive your plow over the bones of the dead" equity with noun capitalization and whimsical nickname assignment

I Ask That All Fully Read my Long Recipe I have Whipped up, as I understand it, Many Young Chefs are Allergic to Reading Recipes that have more than 3 Ingredients

sorry but im literally not gonna fully read it. are you mad. are you mad. are you mad. are you mad. if you stop townreading me ill read it to appease you
(2/4)

I think it's fairly anti town and unsportsmanlike to do so, and frankly disrespectful to the work I did if you're town. I'm not going to vote you for it but I'm also not going to respect your opinion as much if you want to act the jackass

[Garlic Bread]

hellbooks can we be enemies this game

VP has expressed a townread on you based on differences from a recent mutual scumgame. Do you feel similarly about VP here?

[Garlic Bread]

I now understand why setups are townsided on this website when people don't play and answers have to be fed mechanically

That being said, Ausuka design is typically townsided so if we kill scum today we prob break the setup with massclaim. This is either correct and I laugh post-game or datisi laughs at me now

[Garlic Bread]

I mean I guess yeah it is fair it's hard to look for anything without flips lol

[Garlic Bread]

Anyways I'm gonna form a towncore for d1 of Baltar/Myself/Shea/Tris/skygazer

Discuss

[Garlic Bread]

Anyways I'm gonna form a towncore for d1 of Baltar/Myself/Shea/Tris/skygazer

Discuss

I do not really understand this post.

I feel like a lot of what garlic was doing early on felt pretty townie but this feels incredibly out of the blue in an alarming sort of way.

What is the basis for any of these town reads? I understand that GB moved me out of the scummy territory and I felt like that progression was well explained but I dont really have any idea how we go from there to me in the town core.

Same with VPB and I think the progression there is even less understandible.

This post basically just tosses out a bunch of town reads that I think are incredibly unsubstantiated.

The idea behind the post was to manipulate the thread to start actually playing because I know people tend to get big sussy when someone throws out a lot of townreads :p
But also this is a sort of "I don't think this is the play d1 ever" list.
I think you are town independently, based on our conversation and my brief dive into your meta

And yeah you already know VPB , I'm mildly wary but I think there's enough there to bin it for today.

As for tris -> I have a strong belief that sheep kinda spewed her town, and her presence has felt mostly independent here. It's the weakest of the bunch here and yeah I think I'm the type to get fooled by scum tris but I just cannot see tris maf here. Particularly I think her vote on you came from town in the sense that she actively saw something and was pursuing it. I couldn't find a reason to see it coming from mafia.

Skygazer -> I'm mainly sponging VPB's read here, their most recent post is towny IMO in a way like "let me vibe in piece you tryhard"

[Garlic Bread]

I am a preflippy player sorry. I tend to focus 1 slot I want to flip and then build my world around it on d1s.
It's served me well enough to get 2/3s and better in games.

Also I have not too much to work with in terms of people analyzing the game so it's also mostly forced - I prefer sorting by towniness most of all and looking at least towny people.

We all have methods that work that are different in nature - I will never flip someone I preflipped off someone else unless I'm mafia.

[Garlic Bread]

Why can't I make early tonereads? I have to start somewhere. Do you play mafia by thumb twiddling for 20 pages before committing to reads?

[Garlic Bread]

And we do have evidence. We have reactions to votes. To pushes. Etc. Maybe read the game you're in and you'll see there's plenty

[Garlic Bread]

If I wanted to be scumread for being a tryhard I'd play ToS tbh tbh

[Garlic Bread]

So why the shade?
Also gimmick returns when I'm PC posting dw

And stuff doesn't need to ping bad - committing to finding people you *don't* want to eliminate is just as good if not more valuable

[Garlic Bread]

i think that trying to push people to play outside of their pace is likely a losing battle lol

I am Finding This Out now. I am Cooking Meat while The Rest are Mostly Making Smoked Meat

[Garlic Bread]

garlic have u every played an MU turbo game

I do Not Make Microwave Meals

[Garlic Bread]

The fox still remains my biggest tr

You Will Be Boiled

[Garlic Bread]

The fox still remains my biggest tr

You Will Be Boiled

Ya well you’re getting stolen

How Did You Perceive The Fox in the Early Stages of the Neighborhood Friends Team game

[Garlic Bread]

The fox still remains my biggest tr

You Will Be Boiled

Ya well you’re getting stolen

How Did You Perceive The Fox in the Early Stages of the Neighborhood Friends Team game

i correctly townread them immediately

[Garlic Bread]

The fox still remains my biggest tr

You Will Be Boiled

Ya well you’re getting stolen

How Did You Perceive The Fox in the Early Stages of the Neighborhood Friends Team game

i correctly townread them immediately

I Have Repaired It

[Garlic Bread]

for Those Curious did A Little Manipulation to Trick People into Making a Snack for Me

Anyways I'm gonna form a towncore for d1 of Baltar/Myself/Shea/Tris/skygazer

Discuss

from this Manipulation I recieved this Snack:

Spoiler: snack

Anyways I'm gonna form a towncore for d1 of Baltar/Myself/Shea/Tris/skygazer

Discuss

I do not really understand this post.

I feel like a lot of what garlic was doing early on felt pretty townie but this feels incredibly out of the blue in an alarming sort of way.

What is the basis for any of these town reads? I understand that GB moved me out of the scummy territory and I felt like that progression was well explained but I dont really have any idea how we go from there to me in the town core.

Same with VPB and I think the progression there is even less understandible.

This post basically just tosses out a bunch of town reads that I think are incredibly unsubstantiated.

from This One:

hellbooks can we be enemies this game

VP has expressed a townread on you based on differences from a recent mutual scumgame. Do you feel similarly about VP here?

I Received 2 Delectables:

Spoiler: jummy snacks

i don't think so, they don't feel very different to me (but meta reads that boil down to personality stuff aren't good meta reads anyways) but i mean i didn't pay too close attention to their posts that game either

i don't think so, they don't feel very different to me (but meta reads that boil down to personality stuff aren't good meta reads anyways) but i mean i didn't pay too close attention to their posts that game either

I am broken.

I'm surprised though. I came into this game like "oh cool, should be an easy first read, I'll watch skygazer immediately. " you didn't consider something similar?

Despite the Resistance to my Cooking I will Trick People to Come in the Kitchen Eventually

I will Continue to Observe Everyone's Yummy Snacks

[Garlic Bread]

garlic did u ever explain why u started townreading TSQ

Affirmative, I Have Created a Diagram That Can Help You Locate It

[Garlic Bread]

Someone Get The Lamb Out of the Freezer

[Garlic Bread]

Presenting 1 ingredient and Calling it a Dish is Quite Bold

a Good Dish Should Use at Least 2 Ingredients I Would Think

[Garlic Bread]

I Believe Attempting To Fry This One Morsel Will Only Result in a Burnt Product at This Point, we Should Instead Request a New Meal from the Lamb

[Garlic Bread]

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

is it? what is the Thing That is Being backPedaled?

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.

why is baltar's vote scummier than mine?

I Have Already explained My Point Of view on the Matter, Please Defer To My Wall.

my apologies, i messed up my Quote. i have corrected it in your Quote. i was in fact quoting your Wall. as i see it, earlier baltar said they had a townread on skygazer. and then later also said they had a townread on skygazer. he never claimed to have anything more than that.

I Am Sensing you Believe that I am Defending a Scumread Of Yours So You Confirmation Bias That We are Scum Together now.

Explain Your Vote on The Tiger and I will Break it Down.

no i do not think that. i want you to explain first before i Write the Recipe For You.

Well I Can See the Reason You Voted The Tiger there as It was My initial Vibe too, If You Recall I also Voted There.

With The One Who Gazes Up, I Already Forgot and am Tired but that Was me talking about the Lamb.

ok so, why was baltar's vote scummy but not mine?
on your second item: hm?? i don't know what you're responding to. both of my quotes were when you were talking about baltar. i want you to explain how baltar was backpedaling.

i'm quite confused by your responses here. you still havent answered my questions as far as i can tell.

also ++﬩"drive your plow over the bones of the dead" equity with noun capitalization and whimsical nickname assignment

yes! i thought this too!

this reminded me of the book "a girl is a half formed thing"
who else wants to be assigned a booksona

do me! do me!

I Had Theorized a Dish and Have Since Abandoned The Recipe
At The Time I Had Thought the Prepared Food from The Cigarette Man was Cooked at a Poor Time
My Now Abandoned Cigarette Man Theory Is Here:

Spoiler: delishous

Let Me Conceptualize My Theory, As I Find it a Little Funky That You Find it as You call it "A Goofy Stretch":

1.

VOTE: garlic bread

Easier to steal it if it's dead. No fighting back.

Skygazer maybe town or feels guilty about me carrying and they're trying this game.

The Inconsistency of RVS + a Serious Read. I believe This To be a Pocket attempt By Mr Cigarette Man on the One Who Gazes Up - Which Was my Initial Hunch

2.

Sky is actually engaging in rvs and doing stuff. I was just scum with them and it was like constant lurk from the start

i remember them being active in rvs that game

I mean, maybe I had a subjective negative read of it since I was scum with them. But it felt to me like a constant "more later" type posting. Given this is a similar player list, I wouldn't expect them to be posting much at all if they rolled scum.

I had Bookmarked This Interaction as I had felt that Mr Cigarette Man had Shown They Know Too Much and the Young Lady Tris Correctly found that This Read had an incorrect Basis.

We Then Segway into Point

3.

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food

If you're asking me for a reads list, I don't have one. Extremely tentative on sky, and have no reads anywhere else at this point.

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

4.

VOTE: shea

Why not

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.
He Also Calls upon The Book of Hell to vote Alongside him, which I find a Little Odd for a Shrug Vote

As I Do not Have any Explaination from The Cigarette Man, I can Only Draw upon Context such as This:

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

And Now we get to the Lamb

1.

I think vp baltar is a villager

This Is the First Ingredient the Lamb has Presented in This Kitchen, and it is followed by this post:

garlic bread started hella wolfy but I think it was the gimmick and now I think theyre a villager

Which Leads me To Believe that This is a Direct reaction to My vote here:

VOTE: VP Baltar
This one has made the unfortunate mistake of turning off his oven.
I believe they have access to the recipe book and are listing ingredients that we are trying to figure out.

The Statement "started hella wolfy" Felt Discrediting of my Cooking Ability and a way To Split The Ingredients to Make 2 Dishes at the Same Time
Which is Odd when Put next to This Post here:

garlic bread posts are unreadable

As One who is Not Reading The Posts, How can You Come to a Conclusion on Which Ingredient to Use?

I buy his skygazer wolfread as the first good serious thing (u did the first serious stuff but I didnt like it)

+ I buy into his desire for shea pressure

This Is Odd as It seems that The Lamb is Not Actually Reading the Cigarette Man's posts. He Did not call the One Who Gazes Up a "wolf".
Which Gives Me The Impression That the Lamb is Just Making Stuff Up while Having the Answers.


I would like to See how things Progress from Here but This is my Leading theory with the Ingredients in front of Me.

[Garlic Bread]

also garlic bread is a villager that's not a good vote

I Believe They Are Looking at One Dish I Made and Disliked the Taste into Then Assuming the Rest Tastes Poor, but They Are Evaluating the Dish as an Independent Reviewer with No Prior Knowledge

[Garlic Bread]

Spoiler: tris quote

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

is it? what is the Thing That is Being backPedaled?

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.

why is baltar's vote scummier than mine?

I Have Already explained My Point Of view on the Matter, Please Defer To My Wall.

my apologies, i messed up my Quote. i have corrected it in your Quote. i was in fact quoting your Wall. as i see it, earlier baltar said they had a townread on skygazer. and then later also said they had a townread on skygazer. he never claimed to have anything more than that.

I Am Sensing you Believe that I am Defending a Scumread Of Yours So You Confirmation Bias That We are Scum Together now.

Explain Your Vote on The Tiger and I will Break it Down.

no i do not think that. i want you to explain first before i Write the Recipe For You.

Well I Can See the Reason You Voted The Tiger there as It was My initial Vibe too, If You Recall I also Voted There.

With The One Who Gazes Up, I Already Forgot and am Tired but that Was me talking about the Lamb.

ok so, why was baltar's vote scummy but not mine?
on your second item: hm?? i don't know what you're responding to. both of my quotes were when you were talking about baltar. i want you to explain how baltar was backpedaling.

i'm quite confused by your responses here. you still havent answered my questions as far as i can tell.

also ++﬩"drive your plow over the bones of the dead" equity with noun capitalization and whimsical nickname assignment

yes! i thought this too!

this reminded me of the book "a girl is a half formed thing"
who else wants to be assigned a booksona

do me! do me!

I Had Theorized a Dish and Have Since Abandoned The Recipe
At The Time I Had Thought the Prepared Food from The Cigarette Man was Cooked at a Poor Time
My Now Abandoned Cigarette Man Theory Is Here:

Spoiler: delishous

Let Me Conceptualize My Theory, As I Find it a Little Funky That You Find it as You call it "A Goofy Stretch":

1.

VOTE: garlic bread

Easier to steal it if it's dead. No fighting back.

Skygazer maybe town or feels guilty about me carrying and they're trying this game.

The Inconsistency of RVS + a Serious Read. I believe This To be a Pocket attempt By Mr Cigarette Man on the One Who Gazes Up - Which Was my Initial Hunch

2.

Sky is actually engaging in rvs and doing stuff. I was just scum with them and it was like constant lurk from the start

i remember them being active in rvs that game

I mean, maybe I had a subjective negative read of it since I was scum with them. But it felt to me like a constant "more later" type posting. Given this is a similar player list, I wouldn't expect them to be posting much at all if they rolled scum.

I had Bookmarked This Interaction as I had felt that Mr Cigarette Man had Shown They Know Too Much and the Young Lady Tris Correctly found that This Read had an incorrect Basis.

We Then Segway into Point

3.

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

I Queried You earlier About Your View of the Overall Kitchen
I Have Received an Empty Platter
Please Bring me My Food

If you're asking me for a reads list, I don't have one. Extremely tentative on sky, and have no reads anywhere else at this point.

This is A Big backPedal and Inconsistent manner to what was Said before. As I interpreted, the Read seemed to have a Strong Flavour.
I Am at This Point not Convinced That Mr Cigarette Man has any Genuine Reads and Is Feigning the Clueless Conspirator

4.

VOTE: shea

Why not

I Find this Vote a little Puzzling and I believe it is a Piggyback on Tris who is Town. The posting from The Tiger At the Time indicated that The Tiger was Awake to the Cigarette Man's Habits when Evil.
He Also Calls upon The Book of Hell to vote Alongside him, which I find a Little Odd for a Shrug Vote

As I Do not Have any Explaination from The Cigarette Man, I can Only Draw upon Context such as This:

I remember getting a lot of heat after replacing you because all you did that game was complain about the alts posting style and push them.

Seems like a big stretch but alright. If all I do is push garlic bread (which I haven't even done?) over speaking like they're at the Theatre in the Round, then you have my permission to death tunnel me.

And Now we get to the Lamb

1.

I think vp baltar is a villager

This Is the First Ingredient the Lamb has Presented in This Kitchen, and it is followed by this post:

garlic bread started hella wolfy but I think it was the gimmick and now I think theyre a villager

Which Leads me To Believe that This is a Direct reaction to My vote here:

VOTE: VP Baltar
This one has made the unfortunate mistake of turning off his oven.
I believe they have access to the recipe book and are listing ingredients that we are trying to figure out.

The Statement "started hella wolfy" Felt Discrediting of my Cooking Ability and a way To Split The Ingredients to Make 2 Dishes at the Same Time
Which is Odd when Put next to This Post here:

garlic bread posts are unreadable

As One who is Not Reading The Posts, How can You Come to a Conclusion on Which Ingredient to Use?

I buy his skygazer wolfread as the first good serious thing (u did the first serious stuff but I didnt like it)

+ I buy into his desire for shea pressure

This Is Odd as It seems that The Lamb is Not Actually Reading the Cigarette Man's posts. He Did not call the One Who Gazes Up a "wolf".
Which Gives Me The Impression That the Lamb is Just Making Stuff Up while Having the Answers.


I would like to See how things Progress from Here but This is my Leading theory with the Ingredients in front of Me.

thats literally the post i was responding to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Cannot Provide more Ingredients Where there are None. I Gave you the Whole Recipe. I Suggest You Look at my other Delicious Dishes.
I Apologize if You Are Still Hungry but you will Have to Order a New Dish

[Garlic Bread]

idk theres probably something there that I could try to put into words but I mainly just want to poke this

Please Cite Some Posts For Us at Least

[Garlic Bread]

idk theres probably something there that I could try to put into words but I mainly just want to poke this

Please Cite Some Posts For Us at Least

what do u think about them currently

[Garlic Bread]

I Believe This Gif is The Answer

[Garlic Bread]

Mr Cigarette Man, I am Trusting You, but Would You Be Confident Enough On The Sky to not go for them At All?

[Garlic Bread]

I Do Not Believe Sheep can be Cleared Unless we see His Process and They Widen Their Scope At This Point.
I Fear this May Be Part of His Townplay and they are but Low Hanging Fruit but I see no Answer Elsewhere

[Garlic Bread]

Mr Cigarette Man, I am Trusting You, but Would You Be Confident Enough On The Sky to not go for them At All?

No. I was making a read based on like three pages. It was essentially gut. Very open to solidifying or changing depending on what sky does this game.

Would A Player Inclined To Trust Meta More Than You Weigh It Confidently

[Garlic Bread]

i think sheep is town.
i think his rapid flipflop on garlic bread was towny.
i follow what he's said about the xof stuff.

idk theres probably something there that I could try to put into words but I mainly just want to poke this

i'd like to hear it if u could.

I Disagree, However I Believe I Understand Why You Think That - As You Yourself Did Something Similar, and Town Likes To Assign Coincidences to Thought Processes to Town

I Believe The Reaction of Others Was Why He Unvoted and Not Reevaluating, Unlike You.

[Garlic Bread]

ok I changed my mind I think the recent sequence is villagery of u

but the thinking was that: insinuating someone is wolfy based on this person A being villager and this person b being villager and this person c being a wolf in a 9 person game is wolfy in a forced way

this is the flip flop i am speaking of

I Believe The Pressure Got To Him But You May Have Your Read
He Described My Actions and Still Ended Up with Shade and Nonsense Shade it Is

It Also Matches Scum Sheep MO

[Garlic Bread]

It Also Matches Scum Sheep MO

what did you glean about their scum play off the game they linked?

I Am Avoiding This Question Sorry, You Will Not Get an Answer

[Garlic Bread]

Balts chainsawing me so hard were gonna get partner cased again s2g

Would You Say This About Sheep's Vote On You?

[Garlic Bread]

i want 2 put my vote here still
VOTE: garlic bread

I Can See How you May Think In a Sheep Town World I am Mafia , However I believe Until You Accept The Sheep Mafia World, You Will Be Incorrect.

[Garlic Bread]

I Can lead a Horse To water However I cannot Make You Drink

[Garlic Bread]

I Have Expessed a Complex Opinion on Every Slot, How many Mafia Have you Seen Do That?

[Garlic Bread]

Okay Except Alisae Maybe But Alisae I'd A tricky one For Me - I still Find Them More Town Than Not.

[Garlic Bread]

I Will Say I normally Mock and Beat Down Opinions I Disagree With And Wanted to Try a Different Approach, so I ask If you Will Commit, that You Grant me an Open Book of your Logic as I will Share my Recipe Book as Wrll.

[Garlic Bread]

Is this when we fight now Shea? I don't think I'm misrepping you. If you'd like to explain your point in whatever subtlety you think I'm missing, be my guest.

I literally did not say hellbooks was scummy for saying a half thought. I gave one example of a thought process.

This feels like scum baltar

VOTE: VPB

I Believe You Are Clashing , I will Let You Lay it Out and Pressure, But I Await Your Support on the Lamb by End of Day

[Garlic Bread]

Ok Since I Can now Do So in a Position of Power over Hellbooks I will Reveal my Team Solve has Been Hellbooks and Sheep since I townread Baltar

[Garlic Bread]

I softed This Read with the Hells Kitchen gif. That was When I became Confident of it.

[Garlic Bread]

as long as we're sillysolving my solve is trisgazer. Dont NK me for being too correct, i'm traitor

A bit of a Ridiculous Pairing but You said it in the Post itself

I will perhaps Write Up Unpairings at this Point as I think the game is Solvable fully Now.

[Garlic Bread]

Ok Since I Can now Do So in a Position of Power over Hellbooks I will Reveal my Team Solve has Been Hellbooks and Sheep since I townread Baltar

Are these reads related or these are just two you independently find scummy?

Both
For How can you Find a Pair as Mafia without Ensuring the Team fits Logically

[Garlic Bread]

trying to play mafia by having a solve 18 pages into day 1 is truly bizarre.

Please Stop Evaluating the Accuracy of my Reads By How they are Presented and the Confidence behind them and Instead Evaluate them for what they Are, thank you

[Garlic Bread]

In fact i also wanted to call that out: saying that im "hamming it up" does not in fact make sense. Im just like being myself

If i were to sign up for a game with an intention to adopt a posting policy anxious of how people see me i wouldnt have signed up in the first place bc it wouldnt have been any fun for me

perhaps the shitposting just feels less natural to me this time around not knowing your alignment?

ok jesus i am literally believing you so hard it's unreal ok UNVOTE: VOTE: tris

Take Note for this is Part 1 In Fabricating a Reason to Vote me

[Garlic Bread]

I Will Say I normally Mock and Beat Down Opinions I Disagree With And Wanted to Try a Different Approach, so I ask If you Will Commit, that You Grant me an Open Book of your Logic as I will Share my Recipe Book as Wrll.

sorry my kitchen is a mess right now.

I Have a Bucket And Mop

[Garlic Bread]

Ok Since I Can now Do So in a Position of Power over Hellbooks I will Reveal my Team Solve has Been Hellbooks and Sheep since I townread Baltar

Are these reads related or these are just two you independently find scummy?

Both
For How can you Find a Pair as Mafia without Ensuring the Team fits Logically

I guess I mean have you seen associatives between them, and if so what are they?

This Will Not Make sense To anyone But To Me it was the Hellbooks vote that Soldiified the Pairing as it To Me was A poor Distancing Attempt as the Vote was Out of nowhere and Feels Forced in Context

[Garlic Bread]

trying to play mafia by having a solve 18 pages into day 1 is truly bizarre.

Please Stop Evaluating the Accuracy of my Reads By How they are Presented and the Confidence behind them and Instead Evaluate them for what they Are, thank you

This is literally insane. Of course I'm going to evaluate the way you come up when I'm evaluating whether they're good or not.

If you don't want criticism on how you form reads form them in a more sane way

You Misread.

[Garlic Bread]

trying to play mafia by having a solve 18 pages into day 1 is truly bizarre.

Please Stop Evaluating the Accuracy of my Reads By How they are Presented and the Confidence behind them and Instead Evaluate them for what they Are, thank you

This is literally insane. Of course I'm going to evaluate the way you come up when I'm evaluating whether they're good or not.

If you don't want criticism on how you form reads form them in a more sane way

You Misread.

I Meant You Should Not Have a Negative Bias towards my Conclusion Because you think my Method is "Wrong"

[Garlic Bread]

Meh Just Have seen Too Many Town Games Lost Because of dismissed Correct Reads for that Reason is All

On Another Note My Goal for You vs Baltar is to 1. Solidify my Read on Both of You and 2. Make sure You don't Speak Past Eachother

I mean This in a Nice Way as in Cooperation so Please don't take This as Me talking Down, I May Yet be Convinced if Reality is Indeed One Of You Two, I Just Do Not want this To become Circular is All.

(I Feel Pensive About You Blowing up On me If I'm being Honest)

[Garlic Bread]

zzz

Hello Alisae Would You Like to Consider My Read of HellBooks and Sheep paired and Tell Me if I am Missing Something that Maybe Disproves it Or See If you Do Agree.

[Garlic Bread]

Mafia is not only about having correct reads

It is Also About Fooling Everyone, Yes.

[Garlic Bread]

I Find Pleasure In Mafia as a Puzzle So Correct Reads are Important to me, I take Every Incorrect Read As a Lesson For the Next Game

[Garlic Bread]

(I Also Find Pleasure in the Fooling Part as a Puzzle by Figuring Out Paths To victory and In Closed, Solving the Setup and PR readings, the Latter 2 Also being Something I enjoy as Town)

[Garlic Bread]

Mafia is not only about having correct reads

It is Also About Fooling Everyone, Yes.

it is also more than this

It is The Bread we Bake Along the Way

[Garlic Bread]

zzz

Hello Alisae Would You Like to Consider My Read of HellBooks and Sheep paired and Tell Me if I am Missing Something that Maybe Disproves it Or See If you Do Agree.

You think hellbooks is aligned with sheep?
I feel like hellbooks hasn't done anything super alignment indicative at all but I want to say they're probably town so like idunno lol

She Has A kinda Scummy Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss Vibe if That Makes sense
Are you Team Resolve Sheep and Go From There?

[Garlic Bread]

I am on team can the other players play more mafia

I Have a Mirror You Can Borrow

[Garlic Bread]

Sorry That Was Rude I need to Stop That LoL

[Garlic Bread]

I Was not Speaking about only Myself (And I actually Do Not Get Ignored Usually nowadays on Main) But Rather In General

Finding These PreFlip Pairings Allows Me to Scrutinize Their Actions Independently


But also I should Explain My Thought Process Fully.

First-> I Gather All Players I townread And Remove them From the Pool. (I Tend to Eliminate >50% This Way)

Here That Would be, At This Point -> Baltar; Yourself, Skygazer, Tris, And To A Lesser Extent Alisae. I Am Very Generous With TownReads and Still Usually Do Not end up With Too Many To Create a PoE
I then Take my Smaller Pool of Players and Choose 1 Player I believe I have Confidence Is Definitely Mafia and Aim To Resolve Them First. This is Not a Forced Step and happens Naturally when I find this Read.
I Then Look at The Remaining Pool and Pressure Anyone I feel Is Likliest to Be Paired with them.

And Then repeat The Process From the Start If I find I need To Reshuffle Or I change my Mind on if Something is Towny Or not. (The Bar Can Rise Over Time, Which is What Bumped HellBooks so Low as many Rose Above Her rather than Her Falling)


I Hope That Clarifies that I am Not just Operating on Gut and "trust Me bro"

[Garlic Bread]

I mean like idunno lol I wouldn't even say i want to resolve anything right now i just want more things to happen and this gamestate doesn't feel like people actively have to play

I Mean We Always Should Utilize Time , Yes but Planning what Is the End of day is Fine too, I tend to have My Mind Made up by This Point in Games and Start Branching out, Unless The Solve is Hard (for Me) But I Digress and Mafia Theory Conversations are A Bit Cliche (A Cliche that is a Guilty Pleasure Of Mine)

[Garlic Bread]

I have Pointed out Aspects of Sheep's play that is Scummy but I also Prefer to Help People by letting Them Do Their Process, Trusting Your Fellow Townie is Necessary As Making it So that if You die, the game Winning Process dies with you, You will Lose Anyways(Not Talking about This game particularly)

If I Try To MicroManage Reads or Brute Force I will only Be Met With Resentment, for Good Reason

[Garlic Bread]

I Think A Lot of Aspects of Sheep's play Are Forced in A Way that a Lost Scum is - In That They Have No Way To Engage us On Our Level Basically.
The Little Analysis They Have Provided sounds Like Nonsense and is Not Substantiated By Anything Concrete, or even Something I feel I Can Follow, Such as when I looked at Baltar, Shea, and Tris Process This game.

[Garlic Bread]

either way im ok w/ sitting on my butt and doing not much of anything

Are You Sleeping Because You are Tired from the Team Mafia Whooping?

[Garlic Bread]

Spoiler: 4 Alisae Eyes Only

I'm Just Going to Hope Alisae is PR At This Point and Not Press the Issue Day 1 But Still Cringe, BC You Can easily Self Clear with Dayplay(Although tonally You Feel Good) and it would Make the Game Super Easy in the Sense that I can Trust Others to Not Miskill you If You are Town

[Garlic Bread]

I See What You See with Hellbooks and That is Something I look For with scum Myself, Where it Is Clear A Conclusion was Worked Backwards From

[Garlic Bread]

"oh i recognize this thing as something ive chosen to do before as scum" is something i point out bc its interesting to me -- i did it in other game too. about fireisredsir and meuh. citation post 91 and 132. both town btw, so the odds looks pretty good for you (no need for math book, tris). i guess im just super good at doing things town do as scum

I want to say That I have Been In the Mind of a HellBooks Slot in the Past, Not Just As A Fellow Player, And I did Not See This Vibe At All, Not a Hint of it.

[Garlic Bread]

"oh i recognize this thing as something ive chosen to do before as scum" is something i point out bc its interesting to me -- i did it in other game too. about fireisredsir and meuh. citation post 91 and 132. both town btw, so the odds looks pretty good for you (no need for math book, tris). i guess im just super good at doing things town do as scum

I want to say That I have Been In the Mind of a HellBooks Slot in the Past, Not Just As A Fellow Player, And I did Not See This Vibe At All, Not a Hint of it.

Ok most of these I can parse but what in elephant is this

It Will be Clear After The Game

[Garlic Bread]

someone give me something to think about pls

Bread with Garlic

[Garlic Bread]

someone give me something to think about pls

Bread with Garlic

i need to think about you more. sometimes i fall into the trap of "oh this player is leading the thread and posting a lot" and chuck em in the town bin

Sure. I find mentally listing reasons why someone is town/why they could be mafia and seeing what's more plausible helps for me in these situations.
We also don't want the opposite trap of binning someone as scum because of paranoia of "loud slot is trying to lead obviously powerwolfing" vibes :p
Unlike some of these... quieter slots... I am an open book, a lot of my process is in my ISO, if anything confuses you I'll try my best to explain.

[Garlic Bread]

In business company I played with town ali and she does a lot of that there too.

Comes in. Bam this seems villagery, my team solve is {three names seemingly plucked from nowhere} we should quick lim them all.

4 pages later {other two players} are confirmed wolfy so actually the solve is {three completely different names from the first one}

Its rapid fire solving and I don't think its very effective for finding scum but I actually don't think she replicates this approach vry well as scum.

I thought u were talking about Sheep and I was for a solid 5 minutes looking back at games like "wtf is shea talking about" until I went back and realized you were talking about Ali bc I noticed the pronoun wasn't he

[Garlic Bread]

@baltar can you kinda explain your read progrssion on hellbooks

[Garlic Bread]

Tris
Vp Baltar
Xof
Shea
Alisae
-----------
Hellbooks
Sheep

[Garlic Bread]

it's okay i'm easily forgetable

O u r above shea

[Garlic Bread]

it's more a compliment of your scum skill that you are not on top tbf

[Garlic Bread]

I have the opposite problem where the last time I got a scum vibe as I did they were town but also i think I have seen enough micro interactions that make them kinda town and not an optimal d1

[Garlic Bread]

Also its funny u are asking skygazer about vpbalter bc I did 2 days ago too

[Garlic Bread]

LoL I just went back and read VPBalter town game and It's a lot higher energy there

[Garlic Bread]

It's also where I Misread them as town PR so i can't even pretend they randed town PR here

whichever of hellbook/vp/sheep is town pls reveal urself

I bet we r lucky and one of u are pr

[Garlic Bread]

activated ic would be funnier now that I think of it

I just need to clear one of those 3

[Garlic Bread]

like u say shea scary wolf and then u talk abt ur poe like u have 90% confident lock on the game

Would be very obnoxious of me for shea to call him scum on the sole basis he has a good scumgame

[Garlic Bread]

I sorted people by "how far from a reasonable scumrange is this person?"

[Garlic Bread]

That would probably be the next evolution but I honestly don't know. I mean before this game on D1 no not rly but I am more adaptable than I sell myself to be (Shea is still right though I cannot fake a genuine town!Ali. As wolf I move around usually w/ some kind of goal in mind.
I could also just not care about the game I would probably do nothing if I am over it. I'm kinda burnt out on wolf so if I randed a team that I was not excited to play w/ this would be reasonable. Didn't even want to rand wolf for TM.

I'm only talking about within the context of D1 because D1 is when first impressions are important. Later in the game it does just become easier to not post if I don't need to post.

Ok it's kinda funny I thought this was a scummy post and then assumed it was sheep but no it was me ,

dio

alisae

Although I have to ask how often have u played with shea bc this kind of generic reasoning for a scumread makes sense for a lack of direct experience

And re: faking a town ali, you pushed your scumrange to its limit in TM, at least tone wise.
I do believe that after such a game you would be unable to immediately replicate that so that's why you're binned townish here for me

[Garlic Bread]

Wait I quoted the wrong post then was reading the post I quoted as I replied to it some more and ended up also replying to the quoted post

How silly of me

[Garlic Bread]

here are some town ones
viewtopic.php?t=90629
viewtopic.php?t=90521
viewtopic.php?t=90333

U need to switch back to your old avi because I keep mistaking you for sheep with this one on mobile
I opened one game and thought "did sheep just try to pull a fast one and link some random ass game"

Maybe it's the confbias

[Garlic Bread]

Is it mean of me to say that I had the thought that it's not worth finding sheep town bc their play is inherently anti town if they were town anyways and I trust every other slot as town much more to help lategame

probably but i still thought it

[Garlic Bread]

someone sanity check me on every slot still being townier than sheep

what's the town sheep argument that gets them over at least 2 other players

[Garlic Bread]

initial vibe is that sheep doesn't

feel

like they're moving pro-wolf and their contributions don't

feel

inherently wolfy.
I say feel because being able to feel something is a made up concept that doesn't exist like how league of legends players say an item feels right even if it does less damage and is worse than another option.

ya im worried if they are mafia that i choked them too early and theyre like frozen in this state of looking like just a generic apathetic player who is barely playing

but its hard bc i easily find townies and thus tend to not find primary pushes on nonscum anymore past early game like unless shea/baltar are both scum together thats an example basically since i cut to the chase and push for the info i need to find them town lol


and re: feel like theyre moving pro wolf, i do not think they are doing much of moving TBF

[Garlic Bread]

i choked them too early

the ego is huge on this one

saying something and then later going back to be like "oh man i tipped my hand i should have gathered more ammo and then hit em with the epic observation" is something i would extremely extremely say as scum to perform an evaluative process btw

the absolute shade of it all

well I am not you lol, if I projected my own tells onto this PL I would find half of it as mafia for volume alone

Regardless, while you are here - Do you have any worlds that involve sheep, or if not, I currently find everyone but you and sheep as mafia, from Your point of view that is wrong, so, assuming you are still seeing me as town, what players am I mistakenly giving free passes here? (as I am kinda loosey goosey with the townreads for D1 purposes, and on second thought I'll be honest, this latest string of posts gave me major doubts, I do think you are capable of cool nuanced discussion as town and I've seen it b4 so thats what im looking for here and I'm not used to super memey hellbooks)

[Garlic Bread]

actually xof would be the slot that fits squarely lol

but i dont think they fit with sheep

so weh

[Garlic Bread]

mebbe it's just vp + sheep gg x_x

i take full credit and we pretend i never reevaluated ( i want to pressure xof but i know that town xof doesnt care how much u pressure them u cannot get squeeze blood from a rock, so its largely useless to do so to help clear them)

[Garlic Bread]

Some aspects of 639 already I think take some guts to write from mafia. I probably wouldn't be able to do it.
Follow up by 640 and uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

using the argument "too bold for mafia" is a dangerous path my friend, it has landed me many a win as scum
but i think they look towny for different reasons :^) and i feel vindicated for not considering her for my d1 vote

[Garlic Bread]

NO I TAKE ALL THE CREDIT HOW DARE YOU

i dare by 138

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VINDICATED???? i am selfish i am wrong i am right?? I swear im right swear i knew it all along?? My breadther in christ youre like my biggest hater! Save that energy for the red flips hon!!!!

yes I have a system where I create a flip order that optimizes reevaluation and PoE and flipping you first is ??? whereas flipping sheep = jummy honey

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Do you think this game has been uber serious and unreceptive to nonsense? I think the opposite has been true.

me reading this post:
yea its more garlic bread is a srs piece of bread among a bunch of cinnamon raisin bread being silly billys

and then i scroll down and see

sheep saying "i think vp baltar is town" and garly saying "explain" and sheep saying "ok here is why": i am reading this sequence as slightly +scum for sheep, maybe like half a plus (﬩scum)

im head canoning garly as george bailey (the theory of acronym)
also ++﬩"drive your plow over the bones of the dead" equity with noun capitalization and whimsical nickname assignment

I Ask That All Fully Read my Long Recipe I have Whipped up, as I understand it, Many Young Chefs are Allergic to Reading Recipes that have more than 3 Ingredients

sorry but im literally not gonna fully read it. are you mad. are you mad. are you mad. are you mad. if you stop townreading me ill read it to appease you
(2/4)

I think it's fairly anti town and unsportsmanlike to do so, and frankly disrespectful to the work I did if you're town. I'm not going to vote you for it but I'm also not going to respect your opinion as much if you want to act the jackass

this was strongly the moment where i was like oh shit ok this game might not be what i expected

like yeah its just me but im also like a good chunk of the game because i am pretty omnipresent and replying to everyone all the time(except recently bc ive taken off the gas to see who fills in the void)

[Garlic Bread]

o ya also tris is srs maybe thats why i have her top town bc i am rewarding the srs play more but also that just makes her easier to read tbh

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i just also am concerned tho that hellbooks reads are like actually topsy turvy mine when we have from a town pov been able to reach similar reads but maybe she just sheeped me that time a bit more bc we were confirmed to eachother

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Idk that i'd say the whole *game* is that way, just GB is like that, and also the most talkative.

ok but i still felt the way i felt about it
its not like i was hurt by it but i just had a perspective shift where i thought "oh, different things might start to be expected of me this game, i should keep that in mind"

shea can be like "well i think youre lying about your feelings" and that is absolutely his right, but theres not really much i can say to prove that i felt a certain way so i just settled on voting him in an act of self love and self advocacy

i have to get an MRI at some point so if that overlaps with this game i'll ask the brain doctor about it. no i wont. that would violate the ongoing games policy. so, we shall proceed as such

just add "in minecraft" at the end, then its kosher(dont actually do this, i am not encouraging rule breaking thank u)

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me posting from alt: "yea so i am actually your wife and i see you posting and snickering evilly at your computer. i can say with 98 per cent certainty that you are scum"

its the 2% moment of serial killer

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i think i looped back around to vp baltar / sheep scum world but idk if thats bc hellbooks is actually funny and baltar isnt

lol get rekt if hellbooks scum and ur town baltar (but also get rekt in the world ur scum, but less so bc i know its harder to be funny as scum)

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VOTE: Baltar
better vote than sheep I think

Meanwhile....

Alisae has yet to give any actual reasoning to want me dead and is holding onto it like a security blanket so she doesn't actually have to play the game.

”they haven’t posted actual reasoning therefore they must be aligned with the mafia!”

Scum alisae, famous for being unable to wrangle reasoning for a push

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garlic can u talk more about ur shea townread

U know its funny bc this is like the 5th question I'm ignoring from you atp and you just continue proving for me you don't actually care about my responses and are just asking to ask lol

You can Cite parts I've mentioned about shea and prove you've digested my iso and have a point to it tbh

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I'm starting to entertain a worry that garlic is scum and this is just really elaborate thread control.

U actually townread sheep for the bare minimum don't u

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I saw you say like,

-you meta dived him and then changed from town to scum
-your interaction with him was good
-as opposed to me, his stuff is not unsubstantiated nonsense

I feel like youre still barely breaching like 5% depth unless I missed something but I genuinely looked

and ur conclusion? Lmao

Yeah I don't have him as hard town as I do tris lmao, but it's plenty to give a pass for on d1 and realistically believe he will trend as town as the game goes on.

[Garlic Bread]

Part of me wonders if sheep is trying to manipulate me into a shea scumread, but unfortunately for you that's my domain when I'm scum and thus it doesn't work on me

[Garlic Bread]

My biggest concern about garlic is actually the PR fishing

The following response, you have to take as honesty if from a town pov: I don't care about roles much in games past what I can use about them to solve the game. I need to have explanations on why people may be acting a way I believe is off for a townie, instead of blindly pushing them.
And as mafia: I don't typically need to PR fish as I have good PR reading skills when im informed. Think of it this way: mafia are informed who the mafia are, so anyone who pops up meta differences from their usual towngame are likely to be town pr(this is a really dumbed down version of what I actually think about when scum but you get the gist)
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The main thing is that I consider if someone is PR in my reads and I don't care to be closed about it because that just kicks the football down the road where I might not be around to adjust where to go.

If MS towns didnt care whether PRs are outed or not the Accuracy on this site would skyrocket lol

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I'm starting to entertain a worry that garlic is scum and this is just really elaborate thread control.

U actually townread sheep for the bare minimum don't u

Are you jealous?

No I have just been around the block enough to guess these things xd

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I also

still think ur town Garlic and would assert that lol
im not trying to manipulate people to scumread you or anything

but it feels weird like, I dont think I'll be able to lock you town the way youre playing because youre not really explaining your reads. I think ur way more likely town than wolf but theres nothing Im like "damn scum cant fake that"

beyond the early "here's why baltar/sheep is w/w" theres no depth, and u refusing to answer questions and stuff is like refusing my efforts to try to make u confident town which bugs me a little the game would be easier

making nice sounding townreads, even at me, isn't going to convince me to move you higher than the wonderful folks who have shown good process with their own scumreads

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I saw you say like,

-you meta dived him and then changed from town to scum
-your interaction with him was good
-as opposed to me, his stuff is not unsubstantiated nonsense

I feel like youre still barely breaching like 5% depth unless I missed something but I genuinely looked

and ur conclusion? Lmao

Yeah I don't have him as hard town as I do tris lmao, but it's plenty to give a pass for on d1 and realistically believe he will trend as town as the game goes on.

idk it's felt weird cuz like

I honestly feel like the vibes from shea have been meh this game, respectfully

like my gut has felt like he's a wolf and there has been nothing thats made me go like oh damn that was towny

and in contrast your read on him exudes a weird confidence. like I know sometimes you say "I admit he's a good wolf" but the vibes on the read are a bit much, declaring towncores with him and repeating him as fairly strong town and stuff. and it feels either a bit pockety or like forcing ur notion "sheep is especially wolf because everyone else has been so villagery"

Why should I have found you towny?
Genuinely curious - I personally find that from my own POV as town the aspects that are towny from me are obvious but know to temper my expectations of others finding it


I personally think your progression comes off as fake and hamfisted- including this latest shade at me uses reasoning I associate with mafia using something they *think* looks scummy to people to convince them when it really isn't. Mr acknowledging shea is a good mafia while feeling confident I think he is playing town are not incompatible thoughts. Being a good mafia is not about straight up copying your towngame, it's about manipulating people into not killing you long enough.

I think all you have done thus far, including this, is still squarely in what I know you are capable as scum. The glaring errors of disgenuine reasoning among your attempts to look towny is what I'm pointing at here.

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skygazer is there like a purpose to your off topic posting bc I don't understand even the angle of what joke is trying to be told here, signaling the context squad

[Garlic Bread]

Banana bread

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My biggest concern about garlic is actually the PR fishing

i think thats the single shining townpoint for me, funnily enough

are you looking at it as like "uninhibited" or something? thats where im at w it, but that combined with the thread control is enough to give me a little pause

with thread control u know I can just get them pushed till they claim, or shade them in a way that doesn't get people to unvote them

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amusingly the course evaluation page offers to generate a word cloud of my reviews

Someone doing a historical word cloud analysis on mafiascum.net: why was the site absolutely poisoned by the word "elaboratable" in mid 2023

No lie I almost used this earlier in this game but I didn't want to seem aligned with hellbrooks because of inside jokes

So u Sr hb?

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in all honesty i'm townreading you GB but i somehow have the feeling this probably isn't out of your scumrange

Tbh it is but like there *is* a lot of overlap which causes ambiguity. Some strats are similar for different purposes, etc.

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amusingly the course evaluation page offers to generate a word cloud of my reviews

Someone doing a historical word cloud analysis on mafiascum.net: why was the site absolutely poisoned by the word "elaboratable" in mid 2023

No lie I almost used this earlier in this game but I didn't want to seem aligned with hellbrooks because of inside jokes

So u Sr hb?

No I'm just shitposting bc u said I'm not funny

? Why mention the "seem aligned with hellbooks" thing then

[Garlic Bread]

You can snap vote alisae and actually hit scum

I don't see what's scummy about her slot beyond "um she hasn't done anything" bc I find the few things she has done feel pretty town alisae-y

[Garlic Bread]

I hate pagetops stop giving them to me

[Garlic Bread]

You can snap

you can crackle

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Whenever I think of vpballers read on me I don’t think he actually thinks I’m flipping mafia but rather he just dislikes my play the most

Apparently calling play u dislike as “wolfy” even if it’s not wolf indicative is the new trend these days ig

I've noticed over the years the most common way scum push people is by trying to link playstyle actions rather than process the most, like stuff that just "looks bad" as I mentioned just earlier. Like pushing Not Mafia solely because he quickhammered at e-1. No critical thought essentially at context just push bad thing.

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Forming reads based on what people think wolves do < finding what wolves actually do

I'm moreso saying it's a consistent enough strategy for scum pushing miseliminations that calling it out will often yield scum

Hell Shea even said that baltar did it as scum to a gimmick account in a scum game iirc by pushing just the gimmick existing

[Garlic Bread]

Fwiw I don't think baltar is the d1 play but neither do I think he, at this point, should be reaching endgame ever

[Garlic Bread]

hellbooks dropping a banana bread is unfortunately NAI. feel like she's one of the only people here that would read all the drivel without having a red role. i thought GB would probably see it too actually but it doesnt seem like they did. also NAI. thank you for participating in mafiascum's shittiest honeypot.

im literally the post right after it

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Is this emulatable

yeah they got it on retroarch, they got all the emulators

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I actually read through VPs wall and it doesn't convince me because it does the thing I mentioned earlier about just labeling not actually scummy things that just look bad as scummy and also purely relating reads back to himself.

It's a nice wall but it isn't well researched.

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Skygazer - I feel they are trying to get into the game sometimes and struggling and it's +wolf a bit by now

This is a big fat L take that I'm not sure if you actually believe considering you just saw me zero post for an entire day one and claim it was because I was locked in a burger king as town

in essence: i don't see how you could arrive at me struggling to get into a game being AI when you just saw me struggle to get into a game.

I can see how they could do it tbh

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Why am I automatically linked to Alisae as opposed to someone who is reading the game in a way that reached her town?

Like I said, it's much more common for mafia to do this kind of lazy linking, but also lol reality is unlikely to be on your side.

You think I'm linked to alisae - now from my side explain how my play is Scummy then.

If mafia was as simple as "townies only defend townies and only push mafia" you'd think that town would win more, no? And i know you have enough experience to know that isn't true, if you're town who got caught into that trap then here's your wake up to no longer be allowed to peddle fallacies like that.

Is an alisae sheep world impossible to you?

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that vote count wow

I agree and it's why I started a more serious push here. I think this game needs to organize and get some dueling wagons going here. If that's alisae and Sheep, fine. Let's do it. We need to force people to make choices so we have info later game and not just have a vanity wagon party that consolidates last minute one a potential misyeet

"Look at me I'm doing towny things" OK is sheep town to you?

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Your argument for alisae scum is "she isn't doing things townies have to do!"
While you could make the same arguments for other slots.

Why am I able to do that baltar? Why are you arguments like that? What am I missing here? Has OMGUS worked for you in the past?

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my take on this conversation is that you are full of shit and these are the kind of lengths you have to go to to justify your stance.
I actually have a really hard time seeing how it.

First I though it likely isn't impossible for that xof post to be made by a wolf but I think it's much more likely that that is a genuine xofelf reaction
then I read garlic's breads posts up to that point and xof unvote post makes significantly more sense and makes me think more so that this is something that xofelf just thinks.

I think your approach of looking at the post and trying to see how you can attack it as opposed to actually looking at the events that happened to see if such a stance would make sense to have or whatnot just ping wolf to me > town who wants to actually be right on a read

Also despite what u may claim, alisae has explored multiple slots and has even asked you directly who you think mafia are and has poked at you to find your alignment directly.

And the above quote is aimed at sheep, and these are progressions that I find towny from her.

So frankly maybe that's why I find your framing extremely disingenuous, and considering your line of work I am disappointed at your lack of sources in your case.

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I didn't read vpbs case but I think alisae is plausibly in her scum range.

famously not powerwolfing scum alisae

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idk this interaction has made me realize alisae is actually kinda out of scumrange cuz she isn't just sitting down as scum and likes to control gamestate lol

Regardless when reISOing alisae I did realize she was townier than initially thought bc of how she has been poking at stuff in general.

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@alisae if ur town, ur gonna have to activate now cuz I can't stop lol townies from sleeping baltars bad case on u

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Where did I say an alisae!town world is impossible or that "townies only defend townies" or that "she isn't doing things that townies do"?

Pretty cool strawman. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

As far as analyzing your behavior, it's on my list. I find alot of what you're pushing pretty boring and think you're getting by on volume largely. If a person is highly motivated, it's easy to get townread by perceived effort, even if the substance is lacking.

Pedit - of course GB is white knight ingredients alisae lol

Citation , motherfucker

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Where did I say an alisae!town world is impossible or that "townies only defend townies" or that "she isn't doing things that townies do"?

Pretty cool strawman. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

As far as analyzing your behavior, it's on my list. I find alot of what you're pushing pretty boring and think you're getting by on volume largely. If a person is highly motivated, it's easy to get townread by perceived effort, even if the substance is lacking.

Pedit - of course GB is white knight ingredients alisae lol

Lol @ anyone who actually thinks these are good arguments

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idk this interaction has made me realize alisae is actually kinda out of scumrange cuz she isn't just sitting down as scum and likes to control gamestate lol

Regardless when reISOing alisae I did realize she was townier than initially thought bc of how she has been poking at stuff in general.

Schroedingers Alisae. She is both too wiped from Team Mafia to repeat the effort as scum and too good as scum to ever play lazy.

Waiting on your citations for your case, old man.

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actually nvm I'll just sit back and laugh bc even if u flip alisae as green you're just fucked the rest of the game.

Gg hf.

Still, citations(quotes) that show what you're claiming here

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Where did I say an alisae!town world is impossible or that "townies only defend townies" or that "she isn't doing things that townies do"?

Pretty cool strawman. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

As far as analyzing your behavior, it's on my list. I find alot of what you're pushing pretty boring and think you're getting by on volume largely. If a person is highly motivated, it's easy to get townread by perceived effort, even if the substance is lacking.

Pedit - of course GB is white knight ingredients alisae lol

Citation , motherfucker

I trust my gut reads and will be happy to make the case when I want you dead. You're not my priority or strongest read right now, so you can argue with yourself for all I care.

My key evidence though is: what actual serious wagons have you driven despite being probably the top poster in this game?

see you're doing the thing again where you're trying to attack people's actions vs their actual process.

you dont do that as town rofl.

so gl digging yourself out of these shitpushes.

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it is also very uncharacteristic for town baltar to assume pushes on him = scum, he has actually said this as town in a game before that he doesn't do that and does analyze people(and he did in the game I'm referencing)

so uh, keep lying baltar it makes the case easier to make.

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Why would Alisae have to powerwolf if you're already controlling the gamestate?

Could be you're teammates.

Could be alisae is just fine with the directions you're pushing.

Alisae doesn't just control the game willy nilly when scum, e does so when its advantageous to do so.

mate her fucking process of poking people is towny as fuck, stop living in the present and read back instead of trying to rely on scum framing

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"could be" yeah and i could be a real piece of bread playing this game.

finding a plausibility doesn't mean you run with that as fact, it means you look for actual supporting arguments.

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Nah im not wasting discussion space for this conversation

If youre trying to say im scum you should be voting me (:

I am just trying to understand your thought process in switching from iv to Lap when there was a viable iv wagon.

Then you said it was obvious you felt better about iv ... which idk how anyone is supposed to know that, but ok.


Then I realized you just said you felt better about iv at the same time he was in your vp/iv/Lap solve. Which, uh...

here's an example of town baltar actually considering a person's alignment

instead in this game, baltar is like "um ur action = scum because it just looks bad"(boiling it down, i can later show but if you read the recent walls by him it stands out there)


If Baltar can show that he has considered progression at all this game, we can have a conversation but I don't think so.

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whatever I dont even want to flip you today dude I want sheep who is the most obvious scumfuck in the game right now, we can see how you try to make these shit pairings tomorrow if I live.

[Garlic Bread]

Alleged reads list. Big white knighting of someone just outside your scum list

Tris
Vp Baltar
Xof
Shea
Alisae
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Hellbooks
Sheep

"white knighting" indicates im defending a town, not going to assume youre 'slipping' here but rather trying to use a buzzword you don't understand.

and my reads have evolved significantly since then, I do wonder, where are yours to criticize?

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Why would Alisae have to powerwolf if you're already controlling the gamestate?

Could be you're teammates.

Could be alisae is just fine with the directions you're pushing.

Alisae doesn't just control the game willy nilly when scum, e does so when its advantageous to do so.

mate her fucking process of poking people is towny as fuck, stop living in the present and read back instead of trying to rely on scum framing

What scum framing have I relied on? I haven't even read the case, I'm just reacting to your comments.

oh im fully aware you are living in the present

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whatever I dont even want to flip you today dude I want sheep who is the most obvious scumfuck in the game right now, we can see how you try to make these shit pairings tomorrow if I live.

Great, I said let's duel wagons then. I think alisae flips scum, you think sheep does. Let's go and see who is right.

People not on these wagons should change votes and let's do this thing

actually i have a better idea because i went and did some research VOTE: Alisae

[Garlic Bread]

VOTE: Garlic Bread

This is bullshit.

i love recency bias

[Garlic Bread]

WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

I'm an extremely fast meta researcher ...

[Garlic Bread]

@alisae why did u switch off sheep