Micro 1084 | Quantum Mafia | Game Over

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I think we should try to put bugspray into the box and see what happens.

Wait. This is Quantum Mafia. So maybe the box is like Schrödinger's cat, where they put the cat in the box, give it a 50/50 chance of being poisoned, and it's simultaneously dead and alive until they open the box back up and then it's one or the other.
I wonder how that would translate into a mafia game.

Maybe players in the Box are just in some non-pure superposition of being dead and alive. What would be really fucked is if boxed players were able to cast votes in a tangled superposition of being invalid and valid, which would introduce some entanglment among the states of the boxed players.

Also make so that the whole game can happen to be in a non-pure superposition of being over and not after enough players are boxed. If it is anything like this there are probably some hidden rules to open the box before or when that happens.

I think we should try to put bugspray into the box and see what happens.

Wait. This is Quantum Mafia. So maybe the box is like Schrödinger's cat, where they put the cat in the box, give it a 50/50 chance of being poisoned, and it's simultaneously dead and alive until they open the box back up and then it's one or the other.
I wonder how that would translate into a mafia game.

Maybe flips don't happen until someone peeks into the box?

Admittedly, that makes a lot more mechanical sense. Or at least would make the game less of an unreadable mess

Wait another update from the mod.

I only win with town, crazy I know.

On a completely unrealated note, where should I take the goat for tonight?

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Thou notably it may be interesting that Ircher thougth the box as collapsing when being peeked at by

someone

, instead of by some global game effect

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Also, for what it's worth, the Wiki does list a "Quantum Werewolf" variation of Mafia

Quantum Werewolf

This variant was developed by Steven Irrgang and used for a puzzle in the 2008 CISRA Puzzle Competition. The difference from a standard game of Mafia is that players are not initially assigned roles, but rather on each day are given the probabilities describing the game's current quantum state. Each player with a non-zero probability of being a seer or a werewolf performs the appropriate night actions (which may not be effective if it is later determined that the player did not have that role). When a player is killed, the wave function collapses and the players are given updated probabilities.

But I didn't get no impure wavefunction in my PM, so unless I've just happened to personally get a pure one for some reason I don't think this is what is going on

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of course "The Wiki" means Wikipedia there

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The Box. and I generally believe it refers to the poor little cat lol.

I mean, yeah, but if it isn't just flavour, the ramifications of having players in a superposed state are extremely messy.

What does GM mean in this context?

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What does GM mean in this context?

Game Mechanics

In retrospect it was pretty obvious, I must just be dumb

We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is

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Maybe a certain other number (EG +1, +2, -1, -2 etc.) receives the box and gets to decide when they look in the box?

That I doubt may be the case, since there is only one Box, not one box for each boxed player (as proved by the fact that the (empty) Box already exists, and is also capitalized)

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We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is

So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?

I mean, if we spot a player obviously trying to be limmed they may just be an actual jester.

I realize that this game is likely whack, but if we don't want to vote for scum then it's basically not even mafia and I don't see the need to bring out that much tinfoil yet.

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Nobody (this is not a person, there is simply nobody inside of the box.

And anyone noticing the bracket is incomplete?

See, now I'm thinking that you chose the word

bracket

(which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks) deliberately to crumb something since it is relevant in quantum physics

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Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players

must

vote on who to put into the box.

Elimination
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.

Are these rules paradoxical?

Is the paradox in the

must

? I think "nobody" is a fine answer to "who should be put into the box?".

This is a test:
VOTE: Ircher

Vote for Elimination: imaginality

(which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks)

Tbh, I call all these 3 'brackets'. Anyway, interesting observation.

Fair. I would generally call () parenthesis or parens, but full disclosure, English is not my first language

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Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?

I do

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Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?

I do

+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?

That's an interesting question. If there is a mechanical reason at all, I see no possible reason why unless the unstable thing was supposed not to be a publicly known global effect

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Oh disregard, didn't see bug's post

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So, I must conclude by the result of my test that "elimination" and "putting into the box" are in fact the same mechanic, otherwise I have no idea on how one would vote for elimination since vote tags produce box votes.

VOTE: heipizhu

Hardest name to type out btw lol

VOTE: heipizhu4

Just so we're clear, those are non-RVS yes?

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Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

lol, I'm not? Just asked if they were out RVS as it looked they were

Last bastard game I was in, which just ended and Bianco was there as well, I tried to get info in the PT I had(I was a solo mason.....ya, I know), didn't work there but maybe there is a reason we all(or at least I assume we all) have them?

Also Bianco, what is your first language?

Italian

Scum Role PM

Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a

Quantum Goon

You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Townies are dead.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Note the wording,

all QTs

, not all members of the Town or something like that.

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Yeah, I realized, but I also realized the votes are not votes that try to get me eliminated. As I infered above, box != dead. I'm fine if you guys really put me in the box to test what the box actually means, and I'm ready for sacrifice.

And, as I infered above, box~=elimination.
We vote for putting people in the box as per the VCs, somewhere in the rules it is said that we vote for elimination, so you don't get to pretend that votes for you are not in fact trying to lim you. Sacrifice is also a strange word for something you are sure is in no way death.


Weren't you the one testing the ground to see if we would accept that, if someone would appear to try to get into the box, then we should consider that maybe the box doesn't hurt scum? And how convenient, you're signaling you're fine with getting into the box now

We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know if voting mafia to be put in the box will help town lol

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

Frankly unless there's strong evidence of the contrary it's probably best to just assume there is

So if we can spot a player here playing like a jester, we may assume 'putting mafia in the box doesn't help town'?

VOTE: heip

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Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

This is probably a good approach.
The Quantum Goon PM says mafia can put people into a box, so I don't imagine being put in there is anything good. We can probably just vote like normal.

But....

What's in the box?!?(In my best Brad Pitt voice)

Uhhh...cyanide, probably.

Ugh.

You are the worst Alainnna

Pre Edit: I get that Alaina, but.....scum is less likely to lolHammer, they are more likely to to be worried about a buddy being at E-1 though....

Merlyn, why didn't you announce they were at E-1 when you voted them, did you not realize the VC at that point?

I am a little worried on how you are trying to mostly paint a bunch of associatives aroud heip. Those are not great at the start of D1, and apparently you have already found heip+bianco

and

heip+Merlyn assocs

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I agree Drew's theories are sketchy.
That means he's town, right?

So... how does saying sketchy stuff

means

is town?

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I'ma be honest, i also agree with Drew that this feels like a Heip/Bianco game.

That's probably way too easy, but that's what it feels like.

Alas, that is too easy

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Spoiler:

My current reading list:
Merlyn, imagine, Alian(n)a: neutral
Not lots of posts, tbh. Merlyn has only made 3 posts (which gives little information), imagine has only 1 post in 12 as an rvs post, Aliana has some interactions with me, but kind of reluctant to think about the setup, not sure why
Doctor: a bit scumlean. Before 19, his post are all greeting posts, rather genuine. Then he skipped the gm discussion part, and voted for me. Kind of sussy, but I'll keep an eye in drew.
Bianco: townlean. Honestly. He has made several experiments on the setup, and his reasoning is fine on voting me, really.
ceej: neutral. Several one liners, just like his previous games.
Ircher: Hi, thanks for the defend! A tl on you, but not enough for a town read currently (cause the lack of information on the day1 of day1 lol)
Jason: I like his 101, but his scumread on me, idk, is 'single reasoned'. Not something I like. Neutral for now.

An ISO on myself: This player has done lots of lists and exploration on the setup, however, his intention to vote himself out is suspicious. Scumlean on him

That's another reason why I'm fine with you guys voting me. I tried to be 100% genuine here, but looking at myself's iso, I have sus on myself as well. Let's see what will happen next after I post this.

This is honestly one of the most frustrating things I see people in mafia doing. The game opened 21 hours ago , don't be throwing shade for 'low post count'. I don't like this whole, I have sus on myself thing... Like what? VOTE: hep

Could you elaborate more on why you think his behavior here is suspicious enough for the vote?

VOTE: bianco

I see your consider to sail on the bianco+heip ship with Drew.
I would be interested if you have any thoughts on me being the only townlean of heip. Also Drew and Jason, while we're at it.

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Probably get myself too eager to reply to posts without thinking

. Anyway, here goes the reply to your questions on me.

Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?

Lol, I do kinda vibe with this.

What I would like to see is the kind doctor following through with this.

I mainly plan on it, especially since overall trying to mech talk through a bastard game is pretty foolish.

Also heip, are you Demona?

Nope,

(or I will be accused by the admins of using secret alt accounts lol)

Atfer reading her iso of the demon mafia, I have a feeling she has a similar playstyle with me, that is,
a) Be keen on early game setup research
b) Actively posting half-screen walls
c)

And rather poor at defending?

UNVOTE:

on't be throwing shade for 'low post count'

That's why neutral, isn't it?

The neutral part is fine, it was the shade you wrote after that irked me

I don't like this whole, I have sus on myself thing... Like what?

What I mean by considering myself scummy is that looking at myself's ISO, and spectate myself, I don't consider me playing towny. Really. So I mean the voters on me may not be scums trying to push me off and have their reasons and I ACCEPT.

What have you done that you, when re-reading your posts, don't consider playing towny?

Hmmm,

probably I should apologize for my bad wording skills.

What I mean here is that your posts before 45 is kind of 'prod dodge' and I expected a town posting something related to the setup discussion while you are online. Anyway, considering your meta (which refers to a short poster), so I'm fine with that.

And about viewing myself as somehow scummy at that point, somehow, I couldn't recall exactly why I thought about it.

Probably I kind of panicked

when all of you were pressuring me (who's a newbie that have only completed 2 games) . Sometimes, I have a bad habit of taking most of the accusations on me and thought 'emmm, I did made scumtell and yes, you're right' because

I am quite poor at wording

and have trouble picking the correct word (eg: the 'sacrifice') so that should be the case.

I'ma be honest, i also agree with Drew that this feels like a Heip/Bianco game.

That's probably way too easy, but that's what it feels like.

Alas, that is too easy

Unluckily, I can say, it is not. Tbh, i don't think a Scum!heipizhu would try to perform like my earth spinny d1 lol.

I don't particularly like how you're repeatedly selling yourself short here. It reads like a blanket self-justification

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Maybe I'm biased

, but I did that when I was new (evidently still do) so I hesitate to call that type of thing scummy.

There's a difference between a quick remark like this and a long post where one just repeatedly bash oneself.

There's nothing wrong with admitting one's faults, hell I'll go on record that I'm a pretty bad player myself, but the thing is he did not just apologize in passing and go on, he wrote a whole wall replete of pleas of being excused. Laying out plainly to be bad at defending is a particularly bad look

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Let me clear here in case I'm not: I'm not personally hurt or something. It always pings me when I see folks who post things that are worded in a misleading way. It's a good way to control the narrative as the game evolves.

That's a wierdly defensive stance, I don't think anybody was afraid you were hurt personally? That sounds a way out of proportion thing to mention

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Spoiler:

Spoiler:

My current reading list:
Merlyn, imagine, Alian(n)a: neutral
Not lots of posts, tbh. Merlyn has only made 3 posts (which gives little information), imagine has only 1 post in 12 as an rvs post, Aliana has some interactions with me, but kind of reluctant to think about the setup, not sure why
Doctor: a bit scumlean. Before 19, his post are all greeting posts, rather genuine. Then he skipped the gm discussion part, and voted for me. Kind of sussy, but I'll keep an eye in drew.
Bianco: townlean. Honestly. He has made several experiments on the setup, and his reasoning is fine on voting me, really.
ceej: neutral. Several one liners, just like his previous games.
Ircher: Hi, thanks for the defend! A tl on you, but not enough for a town read currently (cause the lack of information on the day1 of day1 lol)
Jason: I like his 101, but his scumread on me, idk, is 'single reasoned'. Not something I like. Neutral for now.

An ISO on myself: This player has done lots of lists and exploration on the setup, however, his intention to vote himself out is suspicious. Scumlean on him

That's another reason why I'm fine with you guys voting me. I tried to be 100% genuine here, but looking at myself's iso, I have sus on myself as well. Let's see what will happen next after I post this.

This is honestly one of the most frustrating things I see people in mafia doing. The game opened 21 hours ago , don't be throwing shade for 'low post count'. I don't like this whole, I have sus on myself thing... Like what? VOTE: hep

Could you elaborate more on why you think his behavior here is suspicious enough for the vote?

VOTE: bianco

I see your consider to sail on the bianco+heip ship with Drew.
I would be interested if you have any thoughts on me being the only townlean of heip. Also Drew and Jason, while we're at it.

...

Shouldn't you be more concerned about why I voted you?

I don't even scumread heip yet and nothing on the posts you quoted indicates that I'm on board with the bianco+heip plan.

Do you believe heip to be town then?

Lol no, I should not. And, given that you've queried Drew on heip basically on the same breath that you've cast an unexplained vote on me, I got the subtext that you may have been allured by that one's Drew's proposed pairing.
As you say it's not so, you're welcome to explain you vote if you wish

There is no sample pm.
We have completely no idea how many scums are there

We don't even know whether a scum exist here lol

I don't like how you quote my 37. This is a post dumping all my observations on the GMs and rules, and it seems you are wrongly pushing me by only quoting part of my posts.

Selective quoting is a pretty common practice (see, I'm even doing it while quoting your complaint, how meta), and isn't really a misquote at all; or an

inaccurate quote

for that matter. It's not like JW cherry picked pieces of your quote so that to change the meaning of the posted parts, the removed context is just extraneous to JW's point

Most newer players behave this way regardless of alignment. I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Ircher, you seem to be going out of your way to defend Heip against any real heat. Major or minor.

And here we go again, new pairing just dropped. Can't be that everyone that interacts with heip is heip's partner, y'know

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Point to where I said they could be partners please.

This discredit attempt is unlike you.....Io sono deluso.

"going out of your way" implies strong intent to me.

Ircher keeps going out of their way to WK Heip, and I am trying to figure out THAT motivation.

See, that would be the

other

interpretation but I though you were sr'ing heip?

Also Italian is usally pro-drop, the subject pronoun (

Io

in this case) generally can, and should, be dropped

(thou there are some rare exceptions)

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I never really was scum reading Heip to hard, just an early vibe vote to see where it goes........and then

Jesus

Ircher took the wheel.

Oh, I see, so you are suggesting WK'ing.

You don't like Merlyn and Ircher for uncompatible reasons that both depend on heip's flip, namely 141 and 249 (and also me, as per 90 and 180 but I digress). Seem like you should be interested in seeing his flip

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This reads like you want to lim Heip.

yes

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There always is a 'plausible' explanation when someone has some heat on them. And why shouldn't a newer player be given a free pass just because they are new?

You are contradicting yourself in this very post, you are just saying 'nope they are new, no way they can't be scum'.

This isn't wrong, but do you really believe what you're arguing? You're not voting heip or ircher

Consider me voting Ircher in spirit.

I still like my vote on you.

This is a deeply weird exchange to be honest. First of all, if Drew voted heip as a corollary of 284 that would not be a sign of conviction at all and in fact would pretty much undermine the point; so lumping heip and Ircher like in 286 is off.

And

voting Ircher in spirit

-- what does that even mean? If in your soul you feel like Ircher's scum and you ought to vote him, you're flesh is voting elsewhere why exactly?

This is especially odd since, as I've mentioned, you have incompatible cases on Merlyn and Ircher

Spoiler:

I never really was scum reading Heip to hard, just an early vibe vote to see where it goes........and then

Jesus

Ircher took the wheel.

Oh, I see, so you are suggesting WK'ing.

You don't like Merlyn and Ircher for uncompatible reasons that both depend on heip's flip, namely 141 and 249 (and also me, as per 90 and 180 but I digress). Seem like you should be interested in seeing his flip

I don't think this is how people do reads. While strategically, it might make sense to focus on the common thread, most people want to chase their actual scum reads.

But I do thing there is quite some value in resolving the keystone of multiple theories to shed some light into the whole thing. Whether or not the value of doing so is greater than the value of nailing one's sr is debatable, but it does more

consistently

improve the game state

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I think Ircher is scum, I also think Merlyn is scum

Do you believe both those things to be true at the same time?

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I think Ircher is scum, I also think Merlyn is scum

Do you believe both those things to be true at the same time?

I would be happy to have them as competing wagons if that could happen.

Fine, that's reasonable

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Drew, you think Ircher is scummy bc of they way they defended heip, yes? The implication being that they're sticking their neck out for their scumbuddy. But you say you think it's me and Ircher together as scum. So how does that add up?

Mhm, no, and we've gone over this point already; 249, 251.

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I I didn't really like their post in page 3, like:

Spoiler:

Mine is real.

And i will point this out, pondering aloud may actually help the town as a whole, given that we were given the single box answer publicly by pondering about the box.

Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).

I couldn't be sure if it's a way for Town!drew to get things out of rvs (as he mentioned in 251), or just a wierd way scum!drew tried to interact with his partner jason, or simply trying to push me.

Am I missing something, there is no actual interacting between Drew and Jason on p4 (I assume "page 3" was a typo since you linked 89, 90)?
They both voted you in quick succession, but other than that, they seemed to operate fairly indipendently? In fact the two posts you've linked entirely fail to support your hypothesis, Drew is actually talking to me and

you

, not at all to JW, in 90

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I'm feeling like being rash this morrow.

VOTE: Merlyn

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@Bianco Any specific reason for quickhammer?

Yes, as I realize you are likely not a lim that can be achieved toDay, I do not dislike Merlyn as a backup lim.

And, I do believe there are no non-QTs townies, so claims wouldn't have swayed me anyway

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Scum Role PM

Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a

Quantum Goon

You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Town

ies

are dead.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

I mean, it's basically mod confirmed

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I typically use "townie" to mean "town-aligned player" so I didn't really see it like that.

Isn't that your rolename now.
I find it very hard to not read "when all [rolename] are dead" to mean "when all [players with rolename] are dead"

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Scum Role PM

Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a

Quantum Goon

You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Town

ies

are dead.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

I mean, it's basically mod confirmed

Enjoying the absinthe a bit tonight?

I am all out :(
Also it's morning here

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This is definitely the Bianco from Brass and Shrapnel just FYI.

And I want to do this,

E-1

VOTE: Merlyn

~b

Lol, I've just remembered I was going after Merlyn in that game

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That's just great. I'd wish town good luck if I'd believed you

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Vengekill: heip

May as well then

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Eh, toMorrow's gonna suck isn't it

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Eh, toMorrow's gonna suck isn't it

How are you so sure that Tomorrow is where we will get to before the sucking starts, I suspect that this lim might even be funky.

I don't know, I don't think it will be that fun having the whole platoon after me, as it seems will be

This lim is going 100% to be funky, remember the game we're in?

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Trying on the off chance:

open box

Well that didn't work.

Merlyn has been put into the box! Now everyone goes to bed after promising not to touch the box until morning.

Maybe

TOUCH the box

??

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That said, we might just have to consider that this might be a 7v2 mountainous with no flip on death.

That would be exceedingly scumsided thou.
And most importantly, would require no morning phase.

For what is worth, I've tried sendinjng in a bunch of actions overnight, but didn't seem to have any effect

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If the mafia keep getting rearranged, there is not much point in trying to sort tbh. It will become worthless the next cycle anyway.

If we have to lim compared to no lim, then we need to lim scum because otherwise ultimately it gets down to 2v2 and whoever happens to be scum then will win, at the expense of all the dead townies. So there's kinda motivation to scum hunt and for scum to hide? It's just a constricted type of scum hunting since they weren't scum previous days. Maybe we can see difference in gameplay.

Just to be clear, your forgetting the wording of the Scum PM.

You win when

all

Quantum Townies are dead.

Even if you hit 2v2 and are scum, it means nothing.

I'm not forgetting the wording. But when it's 2v2 scum can force no lim, kill and then it's 1v2 next day and they win. Even given alignments can change there's still 2/3 chance they're scum again in the 1v2 so it is clearly to their advantage to force the no lim at 2v2.

It's not necessarily so, if a townie il limmed there they get a 100% win chance instead of 66,(6)%. Not to mention that if it's guaranteed that there be at least one swap, which may well be, the chance there would drop to 50%.

VOTE: no lim

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We did not vote anyone into the box. Probably the clone thing only happens if we populate the box by voting?

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I guess that may be a possibility?

But Drew did that during the Night from what I understood, then what is the morning for.

Sorry, can we get a bit of clarity here, can all players who were scum once please claim that please? I know some already did but I don't fancy trying to dig that up and it's probably useful yo have that all in one place

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But Drew did that during the Night from what I understood, then what is the morning for.

Can't exclude that it's just for trolling us but that seems kind of over the top

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Hmh, just checking something. Imag and heip were the first two non-scum to post M1. Ircher was one of the two first non scum to post M2; the first was Jason and the third Drew. @Jason, were you peraphs scum D3? That would solve it for us

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Nah it wasn't me.

Well then nevermind.
I'm trying to think of ways for the morning to play a part in the shifts but idk at this point

[biancospino]

unless Heip opted to box himself i guess.

That would be very strange, by this point we did not witness any way to exit the box unless as a corpse

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Drew, can you explain more about why you NKed heip?

I didn't.

I did see Ircher put them in the box in the scum PT though.

I can confirm, I'm in the scum PT now.
And @imag, yes, there were zero discussion to it

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Or you may be the scum comes morning, who knows.

I have gathered no insight on how the scum redistribution works, I may as well assume it's just random. At this point we should just forget the rest of the game and pretend this is a 3p montaneous that just started.

Ircher was scum yesterday btw.

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Two copies of Ircher escape from the box, one alive and one dead. The living one appears to be a Quantum Goon. Eventually they shake around and get all wobbly in weird quantum ways before only the corpse of a Quantum Townie remains.

Two copies of JasonWazza escape from the box, one alive and one dead. The living one appears to be a Quantum Townie. Eventually they shake around and get all wobbly in weird quantum ways before only the corpse of a Quantum Townie remains.

Ok, so we have two reveals uh. @Drew, did you touch the box tonight? Well I did, so maybe we just get one reveal for each touching.

ToDay was also the first time the box wasn't a FIFO queue, idk what that means.

[biancospino]

If the scumteam is made up of two people still, they should just reveal since then Imag would be right and there's no point in hiding the scum hood

[biancospino]

Not hammering. @Drew, just get to crossvoting Imag and I'll think about how to swing my gavel

[biancospino]

Know what, it's wathever.

Imag is surely not truescum, if truescum are a thing. I'm not either, and if it isn't a thing then it's just a cointoss anyway. Let's toss that coin then.

VOTE: Drew
Whatever

[biancospino]

Thanks bugspray!

Actually, let me just try to bludgeon it.

Night action submission:

For each action in this list, in order, I perform it if I'm able to:

1. USE SECRET ACTION with no targets
   
2. USE SECRET ACTION targeting Imaginality
   
3. USE SECRET ACTION targeting Imaginality and biancospino
   
4. USE SECRET ACTION targeting the Box

One of them should work I hope.

Wait did this actually work?