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Post #82 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:19 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
In post 79, hellbooks wrote:
we should start voting and immediately also healing the same person the way movie characters slap and then kiss each other. does anyone know what im talking about with this
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Post #84 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:21 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
ok so my gut reads are that hellbooks and sheep are town and skitter could be scum and I will refuse to deviate from those for the remainder of the game.
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Post #86 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:23 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
last time me and bulge were in a game together we death tunneled each other as tvt and combined to lose town the game so maybe we can do that again here.
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Post #89 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:27 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
I asked datisi how I was supposed to start a shit fight with hellbooks cuz she would just smirk at me and then I would look like a fool and he told me that was my problem.
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Post #124 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:09 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
In post 118, tris wrote:
so far i just have the tiny isis townread im keeping in a jar.
why to me her posts are kind of alarming but its a little bit hard for me to say because most of the times I've observed her town game its been through the lens of her playing on some alt gimmick account. I'm used to a more solving mindset early on even when its like idk filtered through the lens of her saying things like "the moon whispers to the trees that shea could be fearing the evils ones" or w/e
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Post #127 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:12 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
I think one of the things that pinged me about mr fire is red is that his post about people's alignments felt like it was hedging in a way that was kinda self conscious. Like you're giving reads on page 5 I feel like town knows that's ridiculous and just sort of says shit but fires is all hedgy. Shea COULD be town. Sheep COULD not be.
And also like kinda vaguely well poisony for somewhat similar reasons "hellbooks i think may have thought up most of these posts before she even got her role pm" etc.
It's kind of similar to the posting in the last game and feels sorta distinct from his town game that I've observed in that regard.
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Post #140 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:26 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
I think isis is extremely capable of making that post as scum and it worries me that tris doesn't think she is and it double worries me that you're chiming in to support that side of the argument.
is the dismal future you envision that 7 of us find you town but none of us vote with you
wait six of us
whatever yknow
I've expressed a bunch of thoughts and I don't feel like anyone is evaluating them really or taking them seriously, maybe its just early stage nonsense.
And maybe who knows maybe this will be the first time I've been mislimmed since like 2015 or something like that. Would be exciting.
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Post #282 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:04 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
Maybe I should consider that in this setup in particular being found has more value than in a normal game of mafia but I think playing specifically to be town read would be such a departure from how I try to play as either alignment that I'm not even really sure how I would go about it.
My strength as a mafia player is being very good at recreating my town game as scum so like its hard for me to even envision what a shea who is just trying to get town reads would look like.
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Post #291 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:20 pm
Postby Thestatusquo »
I think actually what I'm feeling is that everyone in this game is really good friends with each other and I'm kinda like the metaphorical third wheel in this player list to be honest and I do not have a lot of confidence that I can break through that rather than any specific thought.
It's a vibe.
I think that reasoning is a horrible way to read me but you do you.
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Post #441 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:17 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
I think ari and fire are most likely to be scum.
I think sheep is most likely to be town.
Kinda waffling on the hellbooks town read because idk the antics just somehow seem less pure to me than they did in the garlic game.
I don't scum read tris but I thought the like moment where everyone decided to apropos of nothing state she was town to be very interesting and I wonder if some of it was TMI which ironically would make her town.
I don't really think tris has done much of anything alignment indicative at all.
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Post #447 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:36 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
I think the questions you're asking me aren't useful and I think they are more intentioned to make it look like you're asking questions about the game but I don't think they're going to help you find any meaningful conclusions and I don't think town you asks me them.
There's a lot of subtle things I think are problematic in post 446.
a) "You say I scum read 2 people" no, I said 2 people were the most likely to be scum. this does not imply that I scum read no other people. this does not imply that I town read everyone else. this does not imply that I view every other person in the game other than those two as interchangeable.
b) "you gave a list of reads." no, I gave a list of some thoughts that happened to be in my head while I looked at the last few pages. They're not a holistic representation of my view of the whole game, and in order to act like they are you'd have to ignore *gestures vaguely at all the other things I've said this game about thoughts about other peoples alignment*
c) "I don't know why you react this way so often it really confuses me" react what way? As if I think you're scum because you're doing things I think scum do that town do not? Because that is how I am reacting.
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Post #448 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:38 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
c in particular is alarming because it kind of feels like you're painting my way to you as some pattern of being unreasonable when in fact reacting to a question you think is busywork by scum reading the person asking that question is just baseline mafia play.
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Post #449 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:41 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
I also feel like the way you're approaching the whole coalition building process is incredibly scummy. It feels like you're not taking it seriously and you want to just pass it off like oh haha I'll vote for whatever when I think town you would be much more interested in buckling down and actually considering whether that coalition you just said "I would potentially vote for shits and giggles" is a good one or not.
But I'm seeing literally zero thought process like that from you.
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Post #450 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:43 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
Like thats another reason why that question rubs me the wrong way because it feels like you've displayed no inclination whatsoever to put in any work to actually figure out what the right coalition of names should be to the point where your most substantive contribution to that discourse is mainly just saying "oh I'd vote for this as a joke" but then you want to get in the weeds about my coalition thoughts in particular all of a sudden? Nah, b. It's busy work. You don't actually care about the answer.
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Post #453 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:49 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
In post 451, fireisredsir wrote:
c) it felt like you were taking what i thought was a really basic question of "elaborate on that please" as a personal attack and refusing to answer it for some reason. im sorry if i read too much emotion into it but i do feel that a lot from you
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Post #458 (isolation #59) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:57 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
I am not ever voting for a coalition without me in it and I am kinda shocked that people would consider any coalition that doesnt include the only person they can assume is town in it this early.
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Post #459 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:58 am
Postby Thestatusquo »
ari and fire both being like oh I wont be in the coalition is super sus because to me it feels like the kind of thing scum might do because they're worried about being seen as too confrontational whereas town would fight for their own inclusion.