Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[marcistar]

a datisi wagon is always tempting tbh

[marcistar]

sometimes i consider actually playing games like the good townie i am but then i realize i can very easily go hehe troll mode

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if you guys are talking about ausuka, i dont think its leaning any alignment for me. i remember her claiming miller instantly as town once and i sused the shit out of it but then ended up being wrong >.>

[marcistar]

what am i skitter

i dont fully agree with ur reads tho uwu

[marcistar]

Nullscum and which ones

i dont remember
i dont think i agree with any of them yet, but some of them seem more logial than others ig

[marcistar]

what fabled marcistar reads

[marcistar]

in germany they tell stories of mafia games where marcistar carries the town

marcistar does not carry the town anymore those days are long gone

[marcistar]

I think ausuka, inifinity and probably elements are town here
Night shade hydra tbd
Dats feels really quite odd

i think i didnt agree with the elements read here the most
and i have infinity as null.

i dont see where i ever promised to give reads though, and i lowkey kinda dont want to since im so clearly scum!!!! so imma go back to playing val

[marcistar]

I don't think anyone said you were clearly scum! I don't have a read on you I would just like to see marci content

I mean you don't have to give reads I guess but it would make me happy if you did

I am not a massive fan of elements either but we can wait for the replacement etc

marci content is a rarity these days, just like how its a rarity to eat caviar.

too many people are scummy

[marcistar]

i think sheas okay tbh

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i want to say skitters scummy but its like everyones susing skitter so it doesnt feel like its very likely she'll flip scum

[marcistar]

i think dragon eaters town

[marcistar]

i want to say skitters scummy but its like everyones susing skitter so it doesnt feel like its very likely she'll flip scum

i feel like 1 1/2 slots have said she's scum, what are you on about lmao

I open the game, I read, its either nightshade or skitter convo. But if you really want me to, i don't have to give reads. uwu.
half the game is still a bunch of people!!! smh my head

i think dragon eaters town

why?

Because why not?
I don't even know who they replaced, but i think their posts seem excitable in a way that isnt faked + 205 seems fun, like in a way that they very easily didn't have to mention team mafia, but decided to because they can see the relation. + theyre defending skitter, which like i say, skitters a pretty big sus rn >.> as scum they have no need to do that right?

[marcistar]

ok ill just shut up then since im so dumb!!!

girl ur clowning if you dont realize how much momentum the skitter suses have

[marcistar]

i dont think scum would really want to defend someone so openly so early on unless theyre partnered though..? and what are those odds?
i feel like scum usually just like to sit back and let things happen

also im not interested in voting night shade right now, when they were getting pushed earlier i found it a bit dumb but now im left to wonder what my read there actually is LOL

[marcistar]

How does this belief tie in to your current reads? You think skitter might be scum but she's definitely not just sitting back letting things happen imo

the "belief" ties into my current reads, because its what im using to townread the dragon eater person duh

i believe i said something like "i want to say skitters scum, but all the pressure makes me think otherwise" so i dont think one way or another on her yet?

[marcistar]

i dont think infinitys scum tbhs

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why is infinity town?

just vibes
i dont think they need to use the "not into the game" excuse to defend me so it seems genuine >.>

I also don't like Elements (now DragonEater70) for voting someone to E-1 very early in the game. It seemed really reckless to me. But maybe that's just how they play, it's consistent with the selfvote.

im not holding anything elements said against dragon eater since elements seems like the type of player i am!!! very vote baitey.

[marcistar]

i dont think they need to use the "not into the game" excuse to defend me so it seems genuine >.>

I think nightshade's exasperation with you being disconnected from game state/voting is more likely to come from town who is frustrated w you and infinity's "defense" is more likely to come from mafia who is trying to get on your good side and save you for later as a pocket.

Do you have any other reason to townread infinity other than how they treated your slot?

not really honestly, but i dont think theyre trying to play me so i stick by the read smh.

[marcistar]

i would be down to vote my girl ari tbhs

[marcistar]

do it then lmao

[marcistar]

yoo lowkey if all the vts are differently flavored why cant we all just claim our fruit and duke it out from there lmao

[marcistar]

yoo lowkey if all the vts are differently flavored why cant we all just claim our fruit and duke it out from there lmao

I mean we could but what is this gonna achieve exactly?

THERE COULDNT POSSIBLY BE THAT MANY FRUITS RIGHT

[marcistar]

yeah possible but how are they gonna figure out what a pr is when we're all just claiming fruits

im so confused am i missing something here

[marcistar]

marci when she realizes there exist more than 7 fruits in the world

HAHAHAHA I LAUGHED

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NONO EVERYONE

MASS CLAIM FRUITS

MASSIVE STONKS

but apparently its dumb so whatever

[marcistar]

man my heart is shattered time to go cry

[marcistar]

can we actually just go after skitter today

[marcistar]

@ausuka I mean yeah if she wasn't upset with skitt it would be even more unbelievable. we still don't really see it

dragon eater has been townier lately so VOTE: temporal is a poe vote we're comfortable with

assuming dragons scum, why would scum kill infinity here?
i dont think dragons is scum >.>

[marcistar]

i had a dream where this game had no mafia but marci was a cult recruiter and she recruited me on n1 but i just didn't get around to reading the pm until last night and then i was like 'woah this is scum marci' and marci was taking the game super seriously and had loads of notes in the scum pt

we call it the slay cult

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@ausuka I mean yeah if she wasn't upset with skitt it would be even more unbelievable. we still don't really see it

dragon eater has been townier lately so VOTE: temporal is a poe vote we're comfortable with

assuming dragons scum, why would scum kill infinity here?
i dont think dragons is scum >.>

I think I already asked but maybe it was on Day 1 so whatever, I'll just again:
Who do you scumread right now?

i had a dream where this game had no mafia but marci was a cult recruiter and she recruited me on n1 but i just didn't get around to reading the pm until last night and then i was like 'woah this is scum marci' and marci was taking the game super seriously and had loads of notes in the scum pt

I think this is slightly towny for no particular reason other than Ausuka being open with her thoughts.

Morning!

my reads don't feel very good this game i guess?

Let's engage. What are your reads other than me = scum?

i would arrange it like

aristeia, marci
datisi
atsi, skitter
dragon

my reads don't feel that strong but there you go? i'm not sure ari would kill infinity and i think marci's enthusiasm about the fruit thing is like, +town, probably

So Ari tr is based solely on the nightkill? Like I do understand the logic behind it but they're your top TR, so like is there any other reasoning behind it or only that?

Also, would you be willing to vote Atsi right now?
cause I don't want to vote myself and I still don't think it's Skitter (though I'm starting to have a bit of doubt on my reads because I was pretty confident on NS being scum here)

ari tr isn't solely based on the nightkill. i thought the way she was talking to temporal lich at eod felt towny and i feel like scum her is less likely to treat my miller claim this way when she has every excuse to hate it

uh, right now no? i would be willing to convinced to vote there, i think atsi could easily be scum, but they are not like my #1 read rn

Okay so here's my reasoning why I think Atsi is scum:
Basically, they made a very superficial push against me, a very easy to push slot, and have not really explained their scumread (other than "you lolhammered so you scum" repeated in 3 different phrasings). Also, and this is more important, all the questions they direct at other players feel like filler questions with zero intent to sort the player that they're aimed at and with no follow up.

tbh i just don't really see why scum wouldn't pivot to the reads before the night falls

like, to me sharing reads then makes most sense if you think you could possibly get nightkilled, which there was a 0 percent chance of happening to dragon eater. for me at least if i don't think i have things i want to share before i (potentially) die i would usually just wait until d2 so i could see an extra flip and read with that context?

the response from dragon eater being to make a reads list just felt like "oh fuck i was careless and accidentally fucked up all my town cred, i feel like i'm letting my partner down! i need to do towny things asap"

Did anyone even read the post where I voted Lich, like at all? I said I have some reads I want to share but I'll share them later, then I realized I'd hammered so I decided to share them now. I don't see how this is is being interpreted as a super scummy move.

ausuka why aren't you voting dragon

Good question.

I kind of feel like scum Datisi doesn't have a reason to pivot to 1v 1ing skitter instead of just running over DragonEater here because like running over DragonEater feels like the easiest thing for scum Datisi to do?

I do agree with you and I think Datisi has been consistently towny here. Like a lot of his posts feel uninformed in a way that is hard to fake as scum, and just in general the vibe of his posts is pretty good.
Also I think you're slightly +town for pointing it out (Datisi, please don't start lecturing me now about Aristeia's scum range, I want to at least have SOME townreads).

what if the team is skitter/ausuka

then what

then we're fucked frfr

I don't understand why we fucked if you and Ari seem to be suspecting both of them rn? IDK if this question makes sense, but how can you be fucked if you're scumreading scum?

i don't think discussing "how likely is it that cakez gave x or y fruit as a fakeclaim" is productive at all because none of us can prove anything about it

what's townie about 655? the way she's like... obviously she does not townread dragons, but the fact that she's not voting makes me feel as if she was hoping some town sucker (aka me) would lead the push there so she wouldn't have to get so much blood on her hands, but surprise surprise my 3 neurons decided they wanted to do something else instead

dragoneater has a total of one (1) vote so i don't think that explains the hesitancy to actually vote there

also not to do preflip or anything but ausuka and skitter have taken the polar opposite stance on dragon pumping out a readslist after realizing he's accidentally hammering but they're not interacting with each other about it in a way that i would assume they would i guess? like they're friends this feels weird

also sharing reads before nightfall is really not that uncommon. ausuka is correct that it probably is Optimal Play to not do that unless you have high nk equity (am i using "equity" correctly there? you get my point) but i def think that "oh shit thread gonna close soon, i need to get my other thoughts out" is not that uncommon of a thought among townies and i just really hate the way she framed it in her post?

It's an interesting take, I want to think about this. Like I still tr Skitt, but I can see the Ausuka case. Lemmie ISO her in a bit and I'll say what I think.

ari
and now ive been thinking its u too since ive been paranoia thinkign about this shit

[marcistar]

OK

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How is that scummy tho lol

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i didnt read how did ur read on dragons change

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ari

why

marci did you miss this

i did not miss this

the same reasons as whatever i had last phase

[marcistar]

I think its more likely tyat i start responding now that survivors over but tbh it isnt unlikely that i just dont respond anyways LMAO

[marcistar]

Im going over to a guys house today LOL

[marcistar]

wait so who am i giving a read on

[marcistar]

eh i think i might get hated on if i say why i read ari the way i do

[marcistar]

Ari - Honestly it was mainly what someone else said that has convinced me that shes scum.
Like, among all the things temporallich has said

and now Aristeia's playing the "RVS vote outside of RVS" gambit and that gambit seems to have worked as it involved DE70...

DOES THAT NOT CAUSE YALL TO GO THINKY THINK? Like obviously that alone isn't enough but it interested me so much last phase that I isoed ari and convinced myself!! LIKE I SEE IT

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

i'm not sure if i can explain things better than temporallich could ever. but i believe in this motion!!
i actually dont believe her "scumhunting" is actually scumhunting, i think shes just making comments along to things a majority of the time.

these are like, setting up for if it backfires and shiiii:

I'd be willing to vote skitter but I'm kind of terrified that if she flips town it's going to be awful and I'd really just like to get it right today

I don't have a very good track record of reading people who don't actually play tbh

Without reading context at all, this and a few other things in her iso reads as just shutting down convo:

I don't really get the impression that Datisi is leaving himself open to pushing dragons? he's like been accusing ausuka of trying to trick him into voting dragons ?

i dont like how she treated temporallich last phase.

but all over all im not interested in continuing to try to find reasons for something thats just sheeping a dead player OWO