Micro 7 - Bird 7p - game over

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I'm ready

[DarkLightA]

Mod: could you put the set-up in the first post? It's tiring for both players and spectators to refer to the wiki

Because I'm not much of a fan of RVS, let's do RQS instead.

How experienced would you say you are in mafia?
Do you prefer playing mafia or town?
What do you like most about the game?

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RQS is a scumtell. Discuss.

Really? ^.^

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Well, I see RVS as a "childish" way of starting a game, really. I think it's better to start gathering information right away. How about you?

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/confirm

VOTE: Mist7676

Reason: Mist is spelled incorrectly. It's "Myst"

OUCH!

[DarkLightA]

I think you misunderstood it..

[DarkLightA]

VOTE: basetballstar24

No comment.

[DarkLightA]

Crap.. I keep on losing my write-ups :/

I'll start again:

I find it odd that people think my vote was scummy. It was simply a way of pressuring BBS and testing his reaction. I saw T-Bone's vote, and though I didn't approve of him being L-1, I didn't unvote because firstly, it was a great opportunity to see how he'd react, and secondly, the chance of him getting lynched that early weren't very high.

Now, the reason why I voted him in the first place was that, if you see his posts in the thread, you'll see that first he comes in and boldly states that two people are scum, and then, when prodded lightly about why he did so, getting extremely defensive. Now, we can't rule out that this could be a townie move, especially PR, but I for once think it seems like a scummy move.

Also, his reaction to the bandwagon was exciting to read. You can probably tell for yourself, but again he gets incredibly defensive,

and, more importantly,

starts building cases against the people voting for him. Again, this could be because of other circumstances, but I don't think so.

Additionally, when Mala mentioned that she saw parts of T-Bone's (and my?) reasoning, he again went defensive towards this statement, not admitting that there was even a possibility of him seeming scummy.


tl;dr: My vote for BBS was justified, and my vote stays on him.

[DarkLightA]

You're currently going on my almost-naughty list, T-Bone. Watch out.

[DarkLightA]

I'm undecided.

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Okay, enough PM.

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@BBS
1. You were, and still are, my top suspect for now. It wouldn't have been the end of the world if you were lynched.
2. I think a hammer would give us a clear indication of who the scum is.

[DarkLightA]

That was a better way of saying it.

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I basically trusted that no-one would be stupid enough to quickhammer before a thorough investigation, given that they were town-oriented. It seems to have worked. How odd.

[DarkLightA]

Guys, I've figured this out.

PMysterious has some tell-tale signs whenever he's playing townie, townie PR, or anti-town.

Let me show you examples:

Townie PR:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Anti-town role:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go


[redacted] - mod

It gives quite an obvious conclusion:

When VT he doesn't stay on-topic, going on about clouds and ponies and what-not.
When townie PR he stays on-topic, posting with lots of quotes about different aspects of the game and things.
When scum he stays on-topic, but only gives one/two-liners.


[redacted] - mod

Either way, I'm going with a scum read in this game.

It seems quite obvious to me right now, I apologize if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong though.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PMysterious

[DarkLightA]

Yeah, it might seem like he's trolling, but it's not half as bad as he hypothetically is in other games.

[DarkLightA]

Well, now that you say that, I see what you mean. He only stopped his craziness after it was pointed out to him.

Urgh, I didn't analyze this game well enough.

UNVOTE:


Re-reading once again, yes, he is a clear VT in my mind. Sorry.

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I'm slightly leaning towards T-Bone as a suspect now. I just feel that his play is far too reckless.
I also think (yes, this is going to look totally OMGUS based on the post above) evilpacman is playing scummy. This is due to him doing what I like to call "posting a lot about nothing", as Mist already pointed out. Also, his cases are very vague.
And his last post really tipped me off: "I can compromise on a Mist lynch." Really?

I'm going to see how this plays/is responded to, but as of now (and due to the DL):
VOTE: Evilpacman18

[DarkLightA]

EBWOP: Scratch the last part about DarkLight.

Heh, thanks.

Well, my thoughts on the Mist case are that.. well.. I don't think we have good enough grounds to justify a lynch at the moment. Looking at her previous games, there are times she's been vanilla and her play style is very similar to what I see in this thread.
The no lynch idea is maybe the stupidest idea that's been brought up (no offense..), as it gives us only one mislynch possibility rather than two, but still, I do not see why a mafia member would bring up this.
Keep in mind that Mist is 14.

Just realized though, if we mislynch today we're in LYLO tomorrow (if we no lynch too).

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Huh? Why?

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Just note that I do not like this, nor am I approving of it.

However, if we can't decide who to lynch, mist is as good a lynch as any.

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I'm positive that PM isn't mafia.
Also, I'm kind of glad T-Bone was lynched despite being a doctor, because I would probably have pushed a lynch on him if he was alive today.

I find it really confusing that he was lynched. I can't eliminate the possibility that BBS is the scum, but we also have to be careful, as someone might just be framing him.

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T-Bone wasn't lynched. He was night killed and why exactly would you have pushed a lynch on him?
Alright, either you are positive PM isn't Mafia because you are the remaining Mafia or you are the cop. I wouldn't think scum would hand themselves over so easily, so I'm guessing you are the cop.

Unvote: PM

No, CC from me because I'm VT. I believe cop claims until they are CC so.
If PM isn't Mafia then the scum are left between BBS/Mist because I know for a fact I'm town.
How can someone be framing him?

Brb, have to go back and look at Mist/BBS again.

Sorry, I wrote lynched instead of NK'ed. My bad.

Firstly, I'd have pushed a lynch on him today, because, as I've stated previously, I felt his play was too reckless.

Secondly, I am positive PM is town because, if you'd have read what happened a few pages back, (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4256296, + 110 and 111), you'll see that I've already gone through this, and managed to disprove myself by trying to prove that he was scum. Awkward, yes, but for now I'm assuming he's town. Not saying it's not going to change, but for now he's not my focus.
And your cop/scum logic is also awkward, at best.

As this point it shouldn't be too hard to win. We each have 4 players to choose from, so we can basically just eliminate two suspects, and we then have time to lynch the two others, leading to a victory.


Also, be very wary of putting people at L-1 at this point. And DO NOT hammer until we have THOROUGHLY investigated the case.

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I never said I am going to no-lynch, it was an option I threw forward for the town to anylaze. Apprently you donmt want to follow through with it, and then start making up lies about me. I am scumhunting, I'm sorry if you can't see it, and I am not dead weight, nor is PM. We are both still trying to find scum the way you are and are not trying to hold back the game.

And, going back, I see you refused to participate in RQS which we blatantly said is scum tell, it helps move the game forward.

More than half of your posts are fluff posting, which holds back the game more than "children".

With all that said, VOTE: evilpacman

Lol.

First of all, I gave my opinion on RQS, and I'm not the only one who agreed that not answering isn't scummy. In fact, T-Bone went so far as to posit that asking RQS questions is scummy, so why isn't your vote on him? Secondly, My post #26 is the first content post in the game, so technically I was the first person out of all of us to take the initiative about moving the game forward, third, more than half? Ok. My iso has 20 posts since the game started. Please quote 11 of them that are fluff and have no content. Do that and I'll claim scum and vote myself. Thank you.

vote: Mist7676

This, for now, is good enough for me to believe that Mist isn't scum. I do not think EPM would either 1. reply in such a way, actually thoroughly trying to excuse himself, and 2. Put Mist at L-1 (I believe it was that, anyway).



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BBS. For now I'm undecided. He's been the "absolute townie" on EPM's list all along, and when EPM has been talking about white-knighting, I think this probably means BBS is a townie. I don't think EPM would circle out his scum buddy like that, but we can't be sure.
EPM's final statements were extremely hard to interpret, but I'm thinking that he's just trying to frame BBS.

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Mala. This is an interesting character. She seems to avoid EPM like the plague for most of the beginning of the game, but during the lynch of EPM she has a lot of "I think either EPM or ___" (usually me.. ^.^) is scum. But she never votes EPM; instead she votes me. When EPM is at L-1 she declares he intent to hammer, without hammering, which to me signifies that, if scum, she is hoping that the pressure on EPM will die down, and people will be unvoting.




So that's everyone.

The way I see it, there's only one logical lynch today.

VOTE: Malakittens

Sorry Mala.
Please don't quickhammer, anyone.

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Wow, wow, wow, slooow down man! I only wrote a paragraph about you, and it's just my opinion. No need to OMGUS.
Also, I never said I wasn't the cop, I was only answering rationally. I may well not be cop, but I have yet to claim.
Your response just increased my suspicion of you.

I'll be checking the thread you linked to shortly, but I do not like when people link to other games they've been in to prove a point. That's scummy.

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Pm... That wasn't necessary.

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I'm scared of a quickhammer here..

UNVOTE:

BBS, please tell us something interesting

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I know, but I never know what you and PM can manage while I'm gone, going to school in 15 mins.

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I didn't say you would necessarily hammer. Nor did I say you were dumb.

I was simply afraid that two additional votes would come in before BBS had a chance to come back. Never said it would happen, I was just being cautious.

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Well, I'm not the cop, so I see this as fairly simple. We follow BBS' claim and lynch Mala today (Which, I must say, was quite clearly presented in my analysis *Proud!*).

Also, PM, why on earth are you stating that you don't think mala is scum AFTER a cop claim like that? That's just stupid.

If Mala turns out to be town, which seems highly unlikely, BBS will be scum, as he has no other reason to claim cop.

And since no-one else has counter-claimed I'm assuming that BBS is indeed the cop.



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tl;dr:
VOTE: Malakittens
Anyone wanna hammer the scum?

[DarkLightA]

Wow, fantastic, thanks for the read and claim BBS!

So my win/loss ratio after returning is now 2/0

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Eh, sure?

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Btw, Mala, I didn't suspect you at all until the summary I wrote up. Well played.

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Hahaha! Well, in that case, well done! Haven't seen any drugged people write up such cases. Apart from the complete OMGUS, it wasn't bad

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Malakittens- Town
evilpacman18- Town
DarkLightA- Null
Mist7676- Null
PMysterious- Town
T-Bone- Null
basketballstar24- Scum

You sure helped us with that, right?

Maybe you should, rather than playing 10-12 games, play 2-3 and actually put some effort into them?

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Hah, probably. I didn't suspect you, and got surprised when I realized that you were probably the only possibility.

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That's probably why you posted this on Aug 14:

I know I vowed myself not to play in many games, but this one is an exception.

/in Open 442. It will make me feel like I'm where I belong.

And these earlier today:

Shiidaji modding? /in 17 please.

Alright. Just finished a Micro game.

/in Micro 18.