Micro 50 (Vengeful Game Over)

[Abaddon]

/confirm replace

Will read this evening

[Abaddon]

Okay, to preemtively answer a few questions, I am an alternate account of an experienced scummer. I am retiring my original, and this is the new main. I will not be revealing the original any time soon, and will consider attempts to force me to do so intentionally unproductive.

Thoughts

Page 1: Om's extravagence in repeatedly and playfully claiming non-Town seems off. A joke needn't be repeated to have effect; Om makes three different fakeclaims right out of the gate. Smells like nervous scum.

Page 2: I overwhelmingly agree with my predecessor's post 29. Natural_River's casual too-early vote speaks to a thought process that has no skin in the game. When I was considering the setup, the very first thing that occurred to me is that with a 2:3 setup, Town would have to be extremely sparing with their vote until certain. The "random" vote in 28 defies that very obvious logic. 37 backs this up. N in 34, however, seems reasoned, though the conclusion is wrong. Om's agreement in 39 that N_R is scum while maintaining a no-reason vote on guille is especially damning. Shit, it can't be that easy. Easy, obvious scum probably means there's a stupid Townie rather than bad scum. 44 is interesting - it tells us that N_R is brand new, and I'm not sure whether that reinforces my read on him as new_scum, or cancels it as dumb_town.

Page 3: Om comes down hard on suspicion of him. Way too hard - the case against him is very weakly presented. Early and disproportionate retaliation is a classic scum defensive move. N's nonsense offtopic inquisition of Zoro solidifies him as dumb_town. I don't think scum would pursue it that intensely with other targets available. **Okay, with a strong Townread at this point, the game from my perspective just changed dramatically. It has changed from find-the-scum to spot-the-Town. With three remaining candidates (Om, N_R, & guille,) two of them are scum. It is more efficient therefore to find the Towniest of the three and prosecute the remainder. Guille, despite having done nothing especially Townie at this point, is in the lead.**

Page 4: Om's continued defensive mischaracterization of the case against him is more in the "scum" column. WHOA. 81-82, Om outright calling his actions nulltell/Townie is scumtastic. In fact, his extreme displeasure at being singled out makes him more likely to be the Godfather than the Goon, as a lynched Goon still has a shot to win.

Page 5: Okay, the continued pursuit by N of Zoraster over semantics makes N painfully obvTown. In fact

@ N - Please actually read this: The case against Om is not about his sarcasm or nervousness. It is about his behavior after it. Town has no reason at that point to act persecuted. Also note that Om has done absolutely no independent scumhunting. You need to stop lonewolf tunneling and join Team Town.

Page 6: Whiskers replaces in with his usual idiocy. I don't think I've ever seen him play scum with aplomb. His immediate attack on guille in 142 strikes me as a desperate attempt to change the subject from a conversation that isn't going well for the scumteam.

Page 7: @guille: Your logic in 152 is nonsense. A scum replacement that's taking over a highly-suspected slot that had been pushing bad reads is BETTER served by changing those positions, not parroting them. Vote Count in 160 is alarming. Votes from both of the most-likely scum on the third of the three remaining candidates (again, Om, Whiskers, Guille) strongly reinforces my conclusions of an Om/Whiskers team. Om's replace-out reason is sketchy from Town. He's claiming disinterest and lack of motivation. Quite on the contrary for Town, there's a lot going on, and plenty of possible avenues of discussion - none at all of which Om deigned to pursue. However, I can see boredom and impatience coming from a scum perspective, as it's a lot harder to go unnoticed in a five-player game.

I am convinced. N is painfully ObvTown, Om is painfully obvscum, N_R/Whiskers is probably scum, and Guille is probably Town by PoE.

Vote: Om of the Nom

[Abaddon]

Page 6: Whiskers replaces in with his usual idiocy.

Are you Pine?

I will not be responding to any questions of this nature.

You have, however, made my case. Your sole response to a cogent and lengthy post filled with discussion points is to go off-topic. Respond to my case against you.

[Abaddon]

You shouldn't need a warning to stay on-topic.

[Abaddon]

Okay, to preemtively answer a few questions, I am an alternate account of an experienced scummer. I am retiring my original, and this is the new main. I will not be revealing the original any time soon, and will consider attempts to force me to do so intentionally unproductive.

Why did you bring this up if you don't want to talk about it?

Consider: Brand-new account, obvious knowledge of site meta and individual players. I have neither the patience nor inclination to suppress either of these, which means that someone's going to notice. The discussion turns to the off-topic conversation of who I really am, and our purpose here fails. I therefore acknowledged it right away, and categorically declined to entertain these discussions. Obviously, this did not work as well as I hoped.

Page 1: Om's extravagence in repeatedly and playfully claiming non-Town seems off. A joke needn't be repeated to have effect; Om makes three different fakeclaims right out of the gate. Smells like nervous scum.

You forget he's 13 and repeating the same thing over and over is what usually passes for humour among thirteen year olds.

You have a small point, but you clearly failed to read my bolded note to you. The case against Om's slot has almost nothing to do with his nervous behavior, which is incidentally NOT present at the start of other games of his I've looked at. The case against him is principally that he responded to these weak suspicions with the defensiveness of one being persecuted, and his utter failure to do anything resembling scumhunting.

Page 6: Whiskers replaces in with his usual idiocy. I don't think I've ever seen him play scum with aplomb. His immediate attack on guille in 142 strikes me as a desperate attempt to change the subject from a conversation that isn't going well for the scumteam.

I find this quite funny. You're saying "Whiskers replaced in and immediately attacked guille; this is scummy" at the same time as making a wall post about Om's every little mistake. Also, if I remember correctly, Whiskers didn't begin with a tunnel on guille; it was more of an "everyone sucks but me" post.

On the contrary; the conversation at that time revolved around suspicion of Om, Zoro, and himself. He couldn't credibly divert attention onto you, and attacking the easiest safe target (Zoro) would be pretty clear pandering, so he went for a change of subject. The only target available was guille. Also, Om's missteps are quite a bit bigger than Whiskers' attack or anything guille did, so the comparison is inadequate.

[Abaddon]

That really doesn't make sense at all. Your desperation stinks like bad cologne, and your refusal to make any worthwhile efforts at scumhunting looks like blatant scumgaveup.

I'm at L-1. If I am mislynched, I will be vigging Nexus.

[Abaddon]

Vengekill: Nexus

Please lynch Whiskers next. Fairly confident that Nexus was Godfather, and Whiskers was preserving his chances, as a vengekilled Godfather doesn't end the game.

Don't fuck this up, Town. N, I'm especially looking at you, as

you

were the one that made this mislynch possible.

[Abaddon]

I'd vig abbadon because he's scum.

Also, Abbadon, welcome to my playstyle.

I've played with you many times. This has nothing to do with your playstyle, this has to do with desperation. You replaced into an obvscum slot at L-1, so you're throwing a lot at the wall and seeing what sticks.

^Meant to post this first. Irrelevant now.

[Abaddon]

I'm not. I've decided to try an entirely different style, and as such, changed my account name. Kindly desist your bitching. You replaced into a screwed slot, it's not your fault.

[Abaddon]

This game was easy mode except for N and Guille being overcautious.

[Abaddon]

Had to kill Nexus quick. He's too good to be left alive in LyLo, even though vengekilling the Godfather doesn't get a win for Town.

Wasn't your fault, Nexus, not even a little. That quick kill was mostly out of respect.

[Abaddon]

I don't think you were terribly wrong, N. Zoro was having an off-game. You just tunnelled down and didn't give me an opportunity redeem the slot, even though I was pretty strongly Town and had nailed the scumteam down to who had what role.