Micro 95- The Beehive Mystery 2.5

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Ewww, I have so many hunches telling me to vote one way or the other...

VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp

Unvote

VOTE: Lincolm

Unvote

VOTE: Naomi-Tan

Unvote

VOTE: orcinus_theoriginal

Unvote

VOTE: Umbrage

Unvote

VOTE: theslimer3

Unvote

VOTE: mozamis

Unvote

VOTE: jmo16mla

Jmo, for reactions to umbrage.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

It's a completely inconsequential thing that jmo took too much attention to.

I'm fairly sure naomi's symbols are indicative of her read/opinion on somebody.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I have a slight scumread on jmo.

The inconsequential thing is umbrage's self-vote. Jmo is asking pretty fluffy questions so far.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Jmo, you're asking questions and commenting on stuff that is completely irrelevant to finding scum. Thus, a scumread develops.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Oh, that.

That was random and trying to make fun of naomi and slimer.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Guys, I think I've broken the setup.

We need to go find klazam's first game, and whoever was mafia in that game is mafia in this one.

Mozamis, reason 1 is basically part of reason 2. Actually, since it's going nowhere and that's just an awful vote that doesn't understand my reasoning.

VOTE: mozamis

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Mozamis, reason 1 is basically part of reason 2.

This.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Oh, the vote for everyone but you was as it was the best way to get your attention without seeming to get your attention so I can assassinate the crap out of you.

Ocrap assassin coming.

Gonna agree with umbrage on jmo's post.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Err, no? I agreed with umbrage on jmo being town, not on lincolm being scum.

Lincolm is tbh maybe scummy, but I'm willing to give him time. The issue for me right now is you.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

And jmo/siv: why is sheeping bad?

Sheeping is not bad, imo. It's the way he sheeped - it seems he voted because I voted, not because he agreed with me. Meh, he's okayish for that, as it seems he does believe in it, and he's being good to town.

Lincolm is still being fluffy.

UNVOTE: Mozamis
VOTE: lincolm

Pedit: Obby?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Calm down and ask questions instead of making baseless accusations.

Firstly, nice dodge of my question towards you. Secondly, I said very clearly that I saw both of your reactions towards Moz as suspect. And thirdly, I've described my vote on Slimer very clearly. The first vote was RVS and semi-policy as I know him to be completely apathetic in games. The second one was because of his conscious use of AtE, which I see as a possible scumtell.

I held off a vote on you and Siv because I wanted to question you before making a judgement. And I still would like you to answer my question.

Your second to last paragraph is horrible and I shouldn't need to tell you why.

Okay, go look at the timing of who voted who. Mozamis votes jmo - I 180 that read and vote mozamis, then jmo votes mozamis. If we're scum, then why am I suddenly switching to mozamis? Scum are more likely to try to stick to their reads, and paranoia about the sheeper doesn't go that well.

But, you do have a point, jmo is back on my TVFL^TM.

ATE is widely seen as a scumtell. Thus scum avoid it.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I kindof missed them.

@Siv: Opinions on Umbrage semi-sheeping me? How serious is the third paragraph+vote of post 29? And why the heck did you do a 180 on Moz immediately after I questioned you on it?

I changed my mind. I'm allowed to do this, right? You questioning me made me realise that I was wrong, and also he'd given a bunch more towny stuff since.

Umbrage doesn't look to be sheeping you. He'd have voted earlier were he doing so.

29 was sortof serious at the time, and I've realized it was pretty much instinctive knee-jerk vote the wagoner now.

Hmm, orc is probably a good wagon. Bit too widespread.

And oh god, I need to not be in several games with the same person.

VOTE: Orcinus_theoriginal

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

This

Along with those reasons, you're causing commotion through everyone by stirring shit up with slimer, getting umbridge to vote him, then add in a dash of jmo/siv possible scum team.

Also the hypocrisy claim to xtoph. That's rather obvious tbh.

Pedit: This is not unlimited votes, so you don't have the vote to back it up if you go everywhere.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Both.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Why would you instinctive knee-jerk vote the wagoner when you just did effectively the same thing as moz?

My instinctive reactions are bad. I've worked this out by now.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Ermmmmm... well now that everyone has established an identity we need people to scumslip...

Jmo is probably the right person.

VOTE: jmo16mla

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Will you at least try to look town?

NO. THIS IS A SCUMMY THING TO DO.

Votes are on who I think is scummiest at the time. I don't really have a strong scumread on anyone just yet.

UNVOTE: jmo16mla as umbrage says so.
VOTE: theslimer3

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Searches sivs meta*

*makes this easier*

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Umbrage, hey! I should be in the useless town list!

VOTE: xtopherusD

Baaaaa!

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Oh, that's L-1 after a check.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Baaaaa!

I'm sheeping umbrage.

Jmo why is x town?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Oheyum...

UNVOTE: xtopherusD

Sheep looking again at umbrage's argument realizes why xtopherus is a frustrated townie. And that was really way too quick of me to go on.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

*Points to all the times xtopher called orci misinterprerting him* You seem to have noticed this too.

Claim the other person has it wrong before you actually read their post.

This IS a reason to get frustrated. And yeah.

VOTE: Umbrage

This is probably the best wagon.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Will you at least try to look town?

NO. THIS IS A SCUMMY THING TO DO.

@ orc.

I cannot believe more people are not calling siv out. ISO him and read his flip flop votes.

How does flip-flop votes make me scummy? What is the scum intention in flip-flopping votes all over everywhere and everyone?

Orc, why not lynch umbrage?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Actual lurkers get away a lot easier than active lurkers. Why not hide as an actual lurker? I CAN do that from now if you want me to be as scummy as possible so you can lynch me with a clear conscience...

^ Okay what the hell is that? Regardless, orc, your case sucks. Go meta me up some. This is exactly how I've played as town a couple of times beforehand. I think my newbie game is probably an instance of that.

Pedit: You know, I'm soo tempted to vote you just to troll.

Anyway, voting umbrage due to umbrage having a rather contradictory case stuff on xtoph. Go look at umbrage. As I'm actually doing now. And coming to the conclusion he's probably not scum for earlier stuffs. Idk.

UNVOTE: Umbrage

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I like how Siv♦ is acting, I dunno why I like it, but it seams pretty good (GUT!)(Page 7)

Newbie 1286. That's probably why. I think I was flip-flopping there as much as here.

You just voted for someone you've been openly sheeping for the last 4 pages without any explanation beside "Oh yeah he suddenly feels like scum to me" why the actual fuck did you do that

I was sheeping him for the last page. Not 4, unless you count getting off... Okay, yeah, I was sheeping him for 4 pages. The flip-flops happen. I think this one had to do with looking at his case on Xtoph closer and realizing how crap it actually was.

Orc, I can agree with umbrage that you're probably town, but seriously, you're throwing everyone you're attacking off. Stop tunneling us. You're not going to be lynching me or xtoph, so try to help us to lynch an actual scum? Also self-hammer is bad. Don't threaten it.

Methinks umbrage, due to PoE based off umbrage's reads (lol), but idk.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um... I kindof get it too? I'm just not sure on you. Although tbh, my not acting does sortof... Yeah.

Everyone stop trying to lynch orc lol. I think xtoph-umbrage are probably the only logical lynches for today.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Slimer/jmo need to ring in

Will you quit your damn bitching? Fuck. Ive got shit to do IRL. I told you guys I would catch up soon. Damn.

Yet another post from Jmo that fails to help town in any way.

Yet another post from moz that fails to help town in any way.

C WAT I DID THER

Yet ANOTHER post from umbrage that fails to help town in any way.

Now, what to do here that combo breaks it. Um, orc, my xtoph/umbrage being the only two logical lynches is as either umbrage is right or he's making shit up because scum, and everyone else is overwhelmingly town. Although he could be town and wrong... Methinks umbrage does has a bit of a point.

Also, Jmo, replace out or contribute. STFU is wrong. That's exactly what we don't want you to do.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Combo-breaker is I didn't want just the "look at another useless umbrage post" bit to be the only thing.

You're not going to be lynching me or

xtoph

, so try to help us to lynch an actual scum?

Everyone stop trying to lynch orc lol. I think

xtoph

-umbrage are probably the only logical lynches for today.

Hello, who here still has a town read on Siv

The rest was in relation to this.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay, umbrage. You just lost my vote there, as in reading xtoph/orci I came to the conclusion he was scummy mostly for trying to lynch someone he knew was town for being anti-town, which was bigger than your scummy stuff.

Now you've gone and done the exact same thing. Seriously, what happened to lynch xtoph lynch lynch lynch lynch lynch?

VOTE: Umbrage.

Not leaving this.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

WOW orcinus. Just wow.

I have a slight problem with jmo for not just looking for umbrage's scum games anyway when not given them.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um.

I actually agree with umbrage on a good many points. Just I disagree with the whole xtoph case.

I don't agree with sheep orc, at ALL. He's like 90% town but also 90% wrong. Ummm, the whole thing on umbrage sucks so I'm probably just gonna lynch whoever nacho says so.

Mod, that sure doesn't look fixed to me... umbrage is still a doublevoter.

Look again...

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Because it was basically a 1v1 with topher/umbrage. While I was firmly on the side of lynching umbrage, lynching topher was basically the opposition option and excluding that would be biased on what is a logical lynch or not.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

...

The good many points is basically every townread you've given lol. I just disagree with the scumreads... and this actually makes like no sense lol, so you're right to be saying this is very scummy and stuff...

UNVOTE: umbrage

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

It was never a question of Umbrage or xtopher, that's a false dichotomy. Orci and jmo got just as much attention as xtopher. You're flat-out making things up to try and justify your sudden change of heart.

No. No. This is what I thought at the time. Maybe it's a false dichotomy, but it was a false dichotomy at the time, not me making up a false dichotomy now to justify what the hell I was saying earlier.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um...

Siteflakes happen due to internet just dying?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Not sure why I unvoted though.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Also somebody please explain the reasoning that makes xtoph town and me scum based off orc's death?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um...

Siteflakes happen due to internet just dying?

Well, you might be telling the truth. Or not. I'm keeping my vote on you until I see some actual scumhumting from you. As opposed to your flip-flopping and unvoting as soon as someone questioned you about it, which was the hallmark of your play day 1.

Search my meta (including ongoing games). It'll be really helpful in determing my alignment.

Not sure why I unvoted though.

That's not good enough, you must have some inkling as to why you unvoted. A townie would intuitively know.

Um. I think I had the whole "umbrage is town and the case just sucks," and I figured I had another day in which to vote somewhere else, then my internet died.

Also somebody please explain the reasoning that makes xtoph town and me scum based off orc's death?

Either you are misrepping here, or are confused. The two points are separate:

1) At this stage, it seems unlikely that Toph, if he were scum would have killed Orc, since they spent most of day one arguing with each other. Obviously, we can't be certain -Xtopher might be clever scum. But at this stage of Day Two, we don't want to drown town in a load of WIFOM nonsense, which is what scum wants.

2) You being scum has nothing to do with Orc's death, apart from you possibly pulling the trigger I was calling you out for being scum based (partly) on your non vote around the lynch, thus keeping your hands well away from being "dipped in the blood".

Heh. No.

The point I'm making is that orc was going for both of us for like most of the day. Clearing xtoph while having me as #1 scumread makes absolutely no sense.

Also naomi, no.

#needtothinkofnewreads

Yes, this looks town, because why would scum try to break their reads at night? The important question is would their reads have been broken anyway by time? I think yes in this case. There are 3 town who aren't gonna lynch orc, and even if one of them died they'd need like an exact 4 people to vote orc. Not gonna happen, given the extent of the case on orc.

VOTE: Xtoph

Methinks xtoph/mozamis is a very distinct possibility, but they could just be buddied up and stupid.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um...

Siteflakes happen due to internet just dying?

Well, you might be telling the truth. Or not. I'm keeping my vote on you until I see some actual scumhumting from you. As opposed to your flip-flopping and unvoting as soon as someone questioned you about it, which was the hallmark of your play day 1.

Um, also, this looks rather like "Okay you're right, my first reason to vote you is wrong, I don't care, I'll keep voting you because of other really bad reason," which looks rather scummy imo.

PEdit: Oh yeah whoops L-1.

Why no claim from toph, moz?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I'll have to lynch you once xtopher's dead though. Sorry, but you're scum and have to die.

Oh no bussing wont give me towncred I have to stop bussing and randomly 180 and just out-vote umbrage with xtoph and slimer and naomi.

UNVOTE: Xtoph

Just kidding.

VOTE: Xtoph

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

UNVOTE: xtoph

Stop making me nervous moz.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

And Siv, you voted you for Xtoph. So I assume you think he's scum. So why no hammer?

Because A) I wasn't here, and B) it's a bit early for hammer, meh.

My big problem is that killing him right now gets me quicklynched tomorrow, and yeah, I don't want this to happen. Anyone have any idea who his partner is if not me?

PEdit: Xtoph, the main thing for me is leading lynches on umbrage and orc who most definitely weren't scum, and you knew this.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I didn't lead a lynch on either of those two people.

You tried to.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Hrmm, yeah.

VOTE: mozamis

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

But yeah, in all good conscience I think I have to UNVOTE,
as your response has been good, and I don't have much of a case on you.

What about his response is good?
Why would you threaten to hammer him before a claim two days in when you didn't have much of a case?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Hmm.

You did flip-flop on jmo/umbrage.

Moz, who are your current scumspects?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Name all of your ideas moz, please? That looks a little like a wait-and-see scum attitude, especially with the question to umbrage.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Name all of your ideas moz, please? That looks a little like a wait-and-see scum attitude, especially with the question to umbrage.

I just said why I was not going to do that.

Hrmmm... Moz is being very interesting. This is kindof scummy.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay.

I actually found that townish, and also your reaction to naomi, and reaction tested to see if you'd keep sticking with it after I explicitly say I found it scummy.

Thus.

UNVOTE: mozamis

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Hrmm, I'm gonna have to PoE this one, so yeah, mozamis is totally town.

VOTE: Theslimer

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Why not, umbrage? Is that a copclaim?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um. I think it was actually talking about you.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Naomi? Get in here and state whether you support or not a lynch on moz, xtoph or me.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um. I think it was actually talking about you.

By "Um", do you mean Umbrage, or do you mean, "Ummm, Moz, it was talking about you"?

Like to a hear a response from Nacho nevertheless.

Lol. No. I don't call umbradge um.

Agreed on nacho's thoughts.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Naomi? Get in here and state whether you support or not a lynch on moz, xtoph or me.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Actually, for just kindof lurking this day away.

VOTE: naomi-tan

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

your honesty is the main reason that I still consider you likely town

Okay then. That's pretty convincing along with nacho's case.

VOTE: xtopherusD

L-1.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

What I don't understand Siv, is why you have put Topher at L-1 twice today, and yet refused to hammer him?

Um.

First time I figured L-1 was a good state for topher to be at, then I figured we should use the whole day and hammering right away would be stupid.
THIS time I don't have the opportunity to hammer him.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

My big problem is that killing him right now gets me quicklynched tomorrow, and yeah, I don't want this to happen

Before you seemed more concerned with saving your own neck. Now you're saying:

then I figured we should use the whole day and hammering right away would be stupid.
THIS time I don't have the opportunity to hammer him.

Seems a contradiction.
Much more likely that your nervous scum. Once again,

VOTE SIV.

Not contradictory. I'm saying in the second that I thought we should scumhunt on everyone who isn't the lynch, and probably the lynch, before we actually lynch. The top is kindof saying this but in a sortof way that's I'm like second scummiest and thus quicklynching all the scummy people gets me lynched before the scums, so everyone else should be scumhunting me to figure out I'm town.

Also, if I'm scum, and nervous scum at that, I'm scum with who?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

God. Why does everyone think I'm scum?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

UNVOTE: XtopherusD

Okay. At least SOME of you are voting toph based on the siv/xtoph interactions, and I want to find out what is it about the way we've interacted that looks like scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I don't understand why we can't meet halfway and just lynch Siveure today.

I mean. I think it's moz/Siv. Naomi thinks it's moz/Siv. Bunch of people think it's me/Siv. Why are we insisting on arguing when we're already agreeing on something?

BECAUSE I'M TOWN.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Seriously I had siv pegged at like page 5

Well done. You're wrong. Now who is my partner?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Worried about how I look is NATURAL when I'm about to be lynched!

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

And note how Siv is desperate to get us all to speculate as to who his scum partner maybe. I see that as a scummy move designed to get us off his back and derail the thread into confused arguments as to who his partner maybe.

It's designed to get you off my back because I don't HAVE a partner and I'm hoping somebody sees this.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Eurgh. When I flip town we'll have a really crappy LyLo in all probability.

Yay for ATE getting me lynched faster!

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

No hammer possible at this time.

Also I'm amazed at how crap people think I am at bussing/distancing for a siv/xtoph team.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

His reads have been changing wildly with the town, he likes to hop onto the biggest bandwagon, and he justifies his behavior with outbursts and and his terrible signature that is supposed to "clear" him.

The sig is supposed to make you check my meta, which clears me.

Stop being lazy and go check it.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

VOTE: naomi

Stop being a lurksack.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Sure you moved your vote around a lot in the Newbie game with Nachomamma8 but you felt different than in this game

Newbie 1286. That one is 1300.

My point WRT to naomi is that she's basically done a short fluff post every couple of days, but eh, I missed her iso 53-55ish. I think nacho has been relatively on the ball, and he's been kindof consistent.

Hmm. I need to meta naomi.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay. A quick glance of 3 games says she's more active as town than scum, but this could be kinda coloured by my memories of the scumgame from a personal pov.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Ew. Anyway, naomi push is bad. This leaves what, nobody except nacho? Except nacho can't be both of the scum. Ew.

UNVOTE: naomi-tan

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay here.

My main problem if it's moz is that he seems to be stuck in a similar rut as I am, when it comes to reads.

Umbrage is definitely wrong though, xtoph is probably the partner I'm least likely with, because I have to be a fricking noob to allow that sort of interaction.

Also lolnope not gonna have any self-hammers from here.

PEdit: No.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Don't really know who's scum at all. PoE definitely does point to xtoph, so I guess yeah.

Intent to hammer xtopherusD

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Eh, I guess. What about everyone else?

I'm a little worried how bacde is so sure I'm scum, and don't really want to push it because it probably gets me lynched really quickly because OMGUS.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

That's a bit restrictive when it comes to modding. For all intents and purposes I've basically been the hammerer, so there isn't a whole lot else he can do.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

If I flipped Town, what would you all do?

Idk. Probably nacho/bacde?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Also, VOTE: xtopherusD

You have the hammer moz.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Thanks for the pointless night speculation moz.

Nobody vote. Everyone should fos people though, methinks.

Fos: Nacho, Bacde.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Also, big question is why shoot naomi? Need to check what she thinks now.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Okay, it's either to frame me/moz or it's because moz is scum, or it's because they picked up on her being cop... euck. If you did do it because you knew she was cop, well done scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

i don't fos, sorry

Okay. Who do you think is scum?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Hmmm. Bacde, who's your prime choice on my partner?

I really hate that this is probably gonna come down to umbrage.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I didn't ignore it, I did not post a response to it.

What's the difference?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Fairly sure umbrage is town. Although I don't understand why he thinks I'm town and moz shouldn't see this?

Nacho is very pro-townish, and moz was giving me a whole load of the same thought-processes on D2. Um, yeah. I think it's a fairly hard tossup on which of them is scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Well, let's not just go around in circles, okay?

VOTE: bacde

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

UNVOTE: bacde

Okay, could still be umbrage/bacde.

Also ew at the WIFOM coming tomorrow. And eurgh, I'm feeling a little bit off on moz...

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Ok so Moz is confirmed scum fmpov

Explain.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Nacho/Bacde team doesn't work

if Nacho's scum then I'm the most obvious buddy, but you didn't even CONSIDER that.

Hmm. The nacho scum with you as the most obvious buddy falls flat when you consider that obvious buddies are probably wrong. If nacho is scum, you get +++ townpoints for having him buddy up to you.

Moz has got to be scum. He's flip-flopping all over the place. He doesn't CARE about his reads, he just decides YEP X IS SCUM LET'S DO THIS WAGON K where X varies from player to player.

THIS IS NOT GOOD TOWN PLAY.

Scum care about how their reads look. Town care about their reads being right. If they don't have good criterion, they'll go with whatever seems best at the time. Nacho is equally superficially scummy for pushing only on xtoph.

If moz is town we're screwed. And yeah, he's probably town.

Why have you unvoted Bacde if you think it is (possibly) Umbrage and Bacde? And your other read was Nacho/Bacde? Common denominator in your read = Bacde.
So lets do him now.
Then hopfeully we can get Nacho tomorrow.

BECAUSE I TOLD HIM TO DAMMIT

IF MOZ IS SCUM THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE HIS BUDDY'S NACHO

I mean SOMEONE on the scum team has got to be competent...

Wait WHAT? Moz is wrong. I think bacde/nacho or bacde/moz.

Siv why did you vote Bacde in the first place over me or Nacho?

You're very town. A good bit of this is the orc kill. Also, basically everyone agrees you're town. Hmm.

Not Nacho was because he's looked kindof pro-town and bacde hasn't been so, really.

Okay, if everyone thinks me/umbrage are town can two of the rest of you just vote the third?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Screw it.

VOTE: bacde

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um.

Cross-vote.

I want the hammer.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Why do you unvote with every vote, moz?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Well, the way I see it every townie is either lynchbait or meant to fall for lynchbait in LyLo.

I look likely to vote nacho. At least, umbrage would probably have powerlynched moz.

I'm worried. I think this is the kind of thing nacho could do.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

What else am I supposed to do?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Frak.

That sort of thing is EXACTLY what I'm worried about. I've been wrong before (admittedly as a dead person), but yeah, don't trust that sort of talk at ALL. It's not an easy choice, no matter how you put it. That's why we're in LyLo.

I don't like the misrep of nacho's play. Then followed up by "don't bother to reread." Eurgh. Town and scum are identical at this point, pretty much, and you could just be being anti-town.

Also, I'm aware of how easily manipulated I am, so I pretty much gut this. This is probably the longest I've gone without actually hammering, except that one time I was wrong. Which means I'm probably gonna be wrong here now. Sorry townie.

I was sure I was gonna get killed last night. But yeah.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Screw it, going with gut.

Based kinda on the whole siv/moz scumteam predictions from bacde while focusing me.

VOTE: mozamis

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

???

I NEVER take my time with LyLo.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

The obvious = probably covered up by actual scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Dammit.

ATE sort of "just vote him and it'll be alright" ARE town.

Bugger.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

The obvious = probably covered up by actual scum.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. This was your mIstake. DON'T OVERCOMPLICATE IT.

And clearly I wasn't "obvscum" -"obvscum" WOULDN'T have told Siv he was "easily manipulated" or "don't bother reading the thread".

Excuse me moz? What?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Sorry I can't.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

The whole concentrate on siv, but say moz/siv any time you need to extend it worked.