Micro 102: Mainstream Mini-Mafia [END, CULT WIN]
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Hey all - 16 pages in a Micro sounds boring.
Who should I be sheeping?-
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Hi Orc - so I guess I shouldn't sheep you since you don't have a case worth mentioning.
Do you think I should sheep Majiffy? He'll tell me to sheep him.-
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Dunno, haven't read anything.
Is he scum?
Let's call him scum.-
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I always like the idea of Jacob being lynched, his posts are weaksauce. I'll vote him right now...
Vote: Human Destroyer
The one post of Four Trouble I read sounded scummy and wussy though - why should we not be lynching that thing too?
@Game - why aren't more people voting Human Destroyer, he's claiming scum on Page 17, which is usually a good thing to lynch someone over.-
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So no comment on Four Trouble?
Do you dodge questions as town, or only when you're scum like this game?
And, no, the reason you're scum has nothing to do with me unless I'm really too dumb to see it (and that might be the case, people call me dumb all the time). You should probably explain how it applies.-
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I keep reading those posts for info about Four Trouble.
I'm sure it will spring out at me sooner or later.
I'll get back to you...
@Majiffy - so what's your case on Human Destroyer?-
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Let's look inside the box.
Mollie should sheep me.-
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@Majiffy - you are, but I want her to sheep my case, not yours.
@Mollie - You did not address the question of sheeping. You should try again.
@Human - you haven't even asked for my logic, even though I claimed to have some. Your attempt to downplay me while not addressing me and also just vague batting at me as scummy continues to prove that you're scummy.
Don't make me have to claim Daycop - I'll do it.-
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@Human - I see little reason to try to convince you that you're scummy, but anyone looking at a vote count and then looking at how you answered me on Page 17 should spot the scum claim.
@Voided - good move.
@Mollie - stop being terrible, pl0x, this isn't a Newbie. You still didn't address the suggestion - you should do so now and stop dodging.
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In post 440, Human Destroyer wrote:Should also note that Voided is sheeping the slot he was just scumreading
Just a thought
Well, duh, he's buddying me hard right now.
But all that really proves is we're almost assuredly not scum together.
Which is the opposite of the conclusion you mumbled into.
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In post 443, Human Destroyer wrote:In post 442, Thor665 wrote:But all that really proves is we're almost assuredly not scum together.
This is WIFOM. I would think you'd know this.
That is not wifom - I thought you would know that.
But feel free to tell me about the scum that would bus and then buddy their partner Day 1 - it's super normal I suspect and happens at least one in a hundred games for a 1% occurance rate and you've seen it before. Link it and I'll even explicitly explain the scumtell.
Also, I've given a hint to the scumtell already, I know you're not actually reading me but you're supposed to fake that you are. Here's a second hint - order of suspicion to order of importance in being mentioned is gakked up!
In post 445, pirate mollie wrote:how am I "dodging" when you never asked a question.
Okay, i can wear a dunce hat for you if you want to be pendantic and scummy for some reason.
@Mollie - I have a QUESTION for you, and would like it ANSWERED. The QUESTION is this - what is your current read on Human Destroyer (hopefully expressed in 2 sentences or less)?
I hope you can answer this question, which is a proven question because it has a question mark behind it.
I understand you need things to be like this, but that's okay - they are working on medication for your problem.-
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In post 450, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: thor
eta: he is looking pretty good to me hence why I am going to sheep him!
Interesting - what changed?-
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In post 454, pirate mollie wrote:your deflection
Which deflection? I do it so much you need to zone me in.
In post 456, Human Destroyer wrote:Yeah I lost my train of thought with that post
It probably has something to do with my vote remaining on Thor while not expanding on his scumminess and instead looking at other lynches
Correct?
Ding-ding-ding!
What does he win?
He wins a lynching, Bob.
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It does when your top scumspect asks you who he should help lynch and you embark on a conversation with him not involving him.-
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So instead your logic was you were going to honestly discuss your second top lynch option with your first?
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In post 486, RachMarie wrote:@ Thor I thought possibly that Melmond was scum, but I am getting more of a towny read from HD, so what am I missing?
Since I already described my case on him...I'll guess you're missing in reading comprehension?
What do you think of my case on him?
In post 485, Human Destroyer wrote:Yes, I'm absolutely fine with doing that.
If people don't support the lynch of my top scumread, it makes sense to recruit them to lynch my second/third scumreads, does it not?
And by 'people' you mean 'top scumspect'?
In post 488, Human Destroyer wrote:Siv had (almost) no content and bandwagoned like nuts
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In post 491, Thor665 wrote:Can you show me an example of his scummy bandwagoning that he did like nuts?
Especially since I just looked.
He voted three people in three days - and those were the first three days of the games.
One of the votes was himself.
Sooooo, bandwagony.
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@Rach - why do you think Human is townish?
Also - justify your current vote pl0x.
In post 497, pirate mollie wrote:#430 is a good start
but #437 was funnier
and then of course there was this post that I am responding to.
red flags everywhere
Guess you got me dead to rights.
Describe what it is I'm dodging again for the slow kids in class?-
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In post 501, Human Destroyer wrote:These.
Explain the scum maneuvering behind either vote, or both?
Because this looks weak as hell.
In post 503, pirate mollie wrote:you claimed that I dodged a question that you never asked. that is scumtell #1
you then dismiss what my response was to your accusation with a lack of response to what I actually said. scumtell #2
you don't have it in you to be mean
1. People agreed there was an implicit question there, if I am scummy so are at least two other players for this. Are they?
2. Your response was a dodge - you should be well aware of how I react to those when I'm town.
Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.
@Majiffy - why do you think Mollie is town?-
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The only town game I've seen her in was yours, where she flipped her questionable composure as town.
You see that as normally not indicative as much?
Also, she's calling me scum for saying she dodged a question, and then is suggesting I dodged...'something' and acting like she's brilliant with that attack. When all past interactions she had with me should be that I'm a good (and sexy bearded) scumhunter, and with that as a concept she thinks these Playschool scum tells are viable somehow...?
She looks terrible.
Remind me of the awesome earlier interactions that I'm sure I'll read any day now?-
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Hurm...
She's "played" with me twice now, how much meta does she really need? Also, really, a derp side slap is her alternate method of choice?
Your reasons for getting a town read look weak to me, and it's not even enough buddying for me to rule you two out as a pair.
Are you susceptible to buddying to give town reads?
I know I am, are you?
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WOuld you expect the sort of derp case she's coming at me with from a town Mollie?-
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I'd accept null as the answer there, which is good enough.
I know she does bad cases as scum, I was curious if she did as town.-
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In post 518, pirate mollie wrote:well if my case is so bad that even a dummy can understand it then will have trouble pointing out how it is so. do you know what a bad case looks like? yours on hd. as in you don't have one and when you have been questioned about it you are saying it should be obvious.
You have noticed that I did explain it explicitly at this stage, right?
The rest of your posting is too terrible to bother with.
Why do you think Human is town?-
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In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:and no I have not noticed where you have given adequate answers to my questions/assertions and that is why I keep pestering you about them.
No...you keep calling them *scumtells* because i "haven't".
And then i say "but I have, and you're dumb"
And then you go "baaaaaw" and suggest somehow I'm being mean for finding your posting terirble and drop hints that you also find *that* scummy.
Instead of maybe, y'know, isoing me?
Or, y'know, crazy thought, demanding I provide a post number to prove I've done what I've said I've done.
But you don't want to do that. You want to suggest I look scummy while not caring about finding answers.
Amirite?
In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:the loaded question thing is a huge scumtell as you should know since you subbed in for me in a game where scum were dropping them left and right in lieu of actual dialogue.
1. Even if scum were, did I ever call that a scumtell from them?
2. My question wasn't loaded.
In post 521, pirate mollie wrote:I am not sure if hd is town or not. he is not the one I am trying to get a read off of at the mo.
So it's page 17+ and you don't have any read on him (or my slot, apparently)?
What reads do you have?
In post 527, pirate mollie wrote:In post 505, Thor665 wrote:Remind me again how bad of a scum player you think I am? <-- this is a question I want answered.
^ loaded question
there is a presumption in it.
Oh gawdz.
Here's a clue - did you ever call me a bad scum player? Ever? Anywhere?
Here's my question spelled out for the slow in class, and is what the above question is really asking;
"Mollie, you appear to think that, when I'm scum, I would play really badly. Is this true, and if so, why do you have this idea in your head? If it is not true, then why are you suggesting the things I'm doing are scummy when the only way you're suggesting them in being scummy is if you think I am rather lackwitted scum unable to answer an accusation - which, as I believe from your experience with me, you would have no basis to believe."
You answered by calling my question scummily loaded and kind of weak backing off from opinion of my play skills and also not addressing how weak the accusations you're soft slapping me with are.
I like the way I phrased the question.-
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Hey, Mollie, I just got some Deja vu' here.
i just asked you to explain how a scumtell works.
Try to do it this time.-
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In post 542, Human Destroyer wrote:P-Edit: Am I the only one that finds it amusing that everyone automatically assumes Thor is town?
That seems like good play from everyone, personally.
Wait till Day 3 though, if I'm alive the scum case on me will be 'Thor is alive' and I'll be called scummy if I ask for any further case evidence.
In post 543, Human Destroyer wrote:Thor, I'll also answer your question with another question: Where's his town motivation for wagoning like he did?
Reactions and pushing a lynch?
Last I checked, town had a lot of benefits in pushing wagons, especially early wagons.-
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In post 547, pirate mollie wrote:what I am pointing out as scumtells are classic objective tells this is like what you learn in mafia 101.
But then you're supposed to take Mafia 201.
Oh, sorry, I thought we were using silly analogies to justify things.
You still haven't actually explained how any of it is scummy except that it's 'objective' apparently. Which is good to know that you can codify it so well, but still seems to not be an answer.
In post 547, pirate mollie wrote:why would I need to iso you? but I will bite. point where you did answer them.
Well, if you ISOed me (or read me the first time around) you would find posts like this one:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4632537
Where I explicitly explain the scumtell you say it's scummy that I haven't explained, and did so before you even asked about it.
Y'know, stuff like that.
In post 547, pirate mollie wrote:I am interested in finding answers that is why I am persisting. I am sorry if this is frustrating to you but I need to get a read on you and this is how I do it. when you start to sound like the town thor that I am familiar with I will let you know.
That's cool, you sound like scum Mollie right now, so carry on.
In post 547, pirate mollie wrote:hd subbed in right before you. are you being serious with this line of thought.
Oh, snap, my bad, i didn't realize a replace in swept a slot clean. That must be Mafia 101 again.
You also dodged answering about the rest of your reads.
If you...y;know, have any that is.
You're allowed to say you don't. It's actually less scummy *and* less anti-town than dodging the question.
In post 547, pirate mollie wrote:2) I don't think you are playing badly now if you are scum. are you saying that you are more likely to drop classic objective scumtells when you are town? if so I can adjust.
Explain how the scumtells are scummy again and I'll let you know.
Okay, so Mollie is prob scum.
Human is prob scum.
Voided is probably scum with Human moreso than Mollie if he is scum. If Mollie is scum then Voided is probably town.
Majjify can be town for today.
Everyone else is a lurksack that I hate.
Thought - scum is apparently cult in this game.
Do we think we actually have any relational tells at all today?
I would tend to expect some sort of limited recruitment capability for possible win Day 3.
If we have mafia too then cult is probably only one derp with no kills and one recruitment
If no Mafia then either the cult can't kill or would have limited recruitment.
Has anyone theorized yet?-
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In post 553, Human Destroyer wrote:FT was a bad wagon to begin with; maybe it's something I'm missing, but FT was never particularly scummy, plus no one voting him (Mollie and Siv) could provide any sort of case whatsoever. If he can't even bother to come up with a case, why push the lynch? Maybe it's just me, but a vote from a lurker/no-content poster like that really wouldn't scare me. The orc vote I could see possibly following this though, so I'll give you that.
So I've justified 50% of them as pro townish.
You have justified 0% as pro scum.
Could you remind me what your case on him was again?-
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I feel like I just watched an explosion of silly happen.
Would anyone like to at least pretend they're town for a few pages? It would help me.-
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@Mollie - your reads, what are they?-
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In post 606, pirate mollie wrote:I think voided looks super scummy and he is laying it on a bit thick. I think jacob looks terrible like wtf. not something I would expect from someone who has been playing since 2010. I thought majiffy looked town but then he highlights what he thinks is a scum slip but when I say I am town he is like "I know". hd looks okay. his going after you looks sincere. orc, ft and rach have all done slow fades. with everything going on I want to hear from them. I thought rach looked followy earlier with her auto sheeping of majiffy. she isn't getting her hands dirty. I did not like orc's and majiffy's earlier exchanges and they make me think they are an unlikely team. why are you interested in my reads thor? you think I am scum and are going to push for my lynch and you will probably get it. I hope someone will at leastconsiderthat you are scummy as Smurf with my flip though.
Okay...so what I get is;
Thor - scum (even though earlier not)
Human - town (even though earlier not)
Voided - scum
Majiffy -nullTown
Orc - Lurker
FourTrouble - Lurker
RachMarie - Lurker
Jacob - not a lurker but so forgettable he's not worth mentioning.
Is that correct?
Dear gawd, why are you so excited about me (though you've apparently solved that mystery now) when you have no reads on anyone at all?-
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I mean, prior to my replace in, Mollie apparently had a read on Majiffy and Voided, and was voting a null read.
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Feel free to actually start addressing stuff that's happening in any way at all.
There's a reason you look like scum.-
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In post 614, Human Destroyer wrote:What I see going on is you asking mollie for her reads and her giving them.
(Mollie you ARE female right)
I'll admit her voting pattern has been odd, and her vote changes are often unexplained.
What I see is you giving opinions on only one thing that's going on.
Making those opinions vague, and attacking both sides at the same time.
You also ask a question that has no bearing on anything unless you're one of those players who tells me that they 'read' men and women different and need to know the gender to be accurate.
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In post 617, Human Destroyer wrote:In post 567, Human Destroyer wrote:Thor honest question, did you read the game or have you based your entire list of reads on everything after you replaced in?
^this one.
I've already answered that question. I did so a couple times right near the beginning, so either call me a liar or accept the answer.
And, sad but true, Jacob is actually more involved in the game than you. And he's being terrible.
Go figure.-
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1. SO you're calling that a scumtell? A town tell? A null tell? Oh, right, you're just announcing something that is clear to everyone while not applying your own opinion. Making your comment as useful as me saying - Human Destroyer posted Post #620 in this thread.
Helpful!
I would love to see you give opinions on at least one thing. Embrace the character flaw.
I agree that you're asking Mollie a gender question that is meaningless.
What do you think I missed in those first 16 pages that is worth knowing?-
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You had my slot down as null prior to my replace in. So...
Correct on Jacob.
You offered babble talk about Majiffy - I interpreted it as null since you called him town and then said 'but'
You challenged me in that Audio game when I was town and you were scum - why would you cozy up this time?
Also, if I'm scum what point is there for scumVoided to cozy up to me?
Your scumtells are apparently that I feared your mighty questions and had to flee before you - there's a reason everyone is ignoring your case. It is silly.
My case on you is more one of your babble talk than anything else - to be frank I don't think I've even tried to put into words why I think you're scummy yet.
Should I be asking you why this bothers you so much now?
ebwop: I've already given a read on Voided. I am currently unsure of Jacob but lean townish because everyone is attacking him to some degree.-
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In post 629, pirate mollie wrote:In post 627, Thor665 wrote:You had my slot down as null prior to my replace in. So...
I can't remember really having an opinion on siev but by all means I think you should continue to make Smurf up.
I know you didn't have an opinion on him - that's why I said your opinion was null.
So...what are you accusing me of here?
As far as I can tell you're complaining that I was accurate when I said that you had no read.
In post 629, pirate mollie wrote:it is called updating your scum meta I am sure this is not a foreign concept as much as you are making it out to be.
If you update your scum meta then why is your town meta identical to what your scum meta was last game I played with you?
In post 629, pirate mollie wrote:yet you have spent the better part of your day engaging with me.
You're right, there never was or is the whole Human thing that I was doing that actually got your underwear in a twist in the first place, and it's certainly not still going on - I must have imagined that.
In post 629, pirate mollie wrote:ebwop: I've already given a read on Voided. I am currently unsure of Jacob but lean townish because everyone is attacking him to some degree.
remind me again. especially in lieu of recent dialogue.
Sure.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4634198
It was in the ancient time of 'this morning'
Now that I've repeated things, could you explain what I've done that's scummy again? Specifically I'm curious about my motivation to do the scummy stuff as you see it.
I don't actually think this is making oyu repeat yourself, but I figure I better cover my bases in case you try the same dodge again.
Also - for someone with so few reads, why haven't you focused on anyone besides me prior to this?-
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3. Majiffy (1) - orcinus_theoriginal
7. JacobSavage (1) - Human Destroyer
I feel like Orc and Human are failing at life.
I'm not sure why - I'm sure it will come to me.
@Rach - you say I take a while to get a read on.
You haven't asked me gak.
You're still voting me.
Whassup?-
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In post 656, RachMarie wrote:As you pointed out earlier, the slot does not change because of a replacement, so I am trying to determine if I was mistaken about your predecessor (I definitely can make mistakes), or if you pulled a scum slot this time.
Walk me through what steps you're doing to accomplish this feat - I'm clearly not noticing the work.
In post 658, FourTrouble wrote:not Human Destroyer yet, he has some really towny posts, not gonna vote him as things are atm.
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In post 664, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Thor, what's Majiffy's scumplay like?
I don't believe myself able to quantify it from his town play other than 'scummy'.-
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In post 669, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Thor why did you ignore 653?
Because it was a stupid question since I have a vote in play.
In post 673, Human Destroyer wrote:Thor stop trying to convince me to sheep you, Mollie's the only case I'd even care to sheep, and even then I find her scumminess weak; I prefer my vote where it is.
Oh, yeah, that totally awesome wagon where you're the only guy voting it and you're not even trying to get other people to sheep you.
That is super pro town, and we should all play like that, I bet we would get a lynch easily.
In post 672, RachMarie wrote:Well one thing that sticks out in my mind Thor is you are not all bent to get me lynched? Which since in every game you have wanted to do I find that odd. You even tried to get me lynched in a game where I was already dead lol. So what is different now?
You are planning to answer my question eventually, right?
The 'wtf' face is my answer to your question - for the record.-
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Stalled wagons on Day 1 mean something.
Rach should still answer my question - she has been beyond useless. Which is saying something in this current mix.-
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Yeah, because the Orc=town flip means *so* much to my alignment, right
1. A read you sat on like a lump on a log all day yesterday while doing nothing to affect the game as we rushed to deadline.
2. Your logic that I even would as town is pretty flawed to begin with.-
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Unless the Cult also has killing power.
Considering the size of the setup (9) if there is Mafia *and* Cult then Cult probably has limited recruitment power (1 or 2 shots tops) *and* Mafia is small (2 I suppose). Or maybe Cult has limited recruitment and limited kill capability and there is no mafia.
If there is 2+ Mafia and a Cult that can recruit ad infinitum then there better be some of the most amazing powers running rampant through this town or I'll be kvetching at Chk later.
Why did you avoid voting Human yesterday?-
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In post 704, pirate mollie wrote:so thor do you think hd is cult or scum? or are you going with that there might only be 1 nontown faction?
Let's flip him and find out, until then all my conversations will keep incluind 'if' 'and' 'or' and 'but' when describing the setup. I could offer you a comprehensive list of thoughts off every theory setup in my head. but I don't see a value.
Here's the short and sweet rundown though since apparently this is still a Newbie;
If there are multiple scum factions he is more likely to be from the larger one.
If he is scum then other members of the same scum faction are more likely to be off the wagon.
If he is town than scum are more likely to be on the wagon (unless the only scum is cult in which case it sort of depends on how they even work)-
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I still can't get over how much heat *I* get for that flowchart-
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In post 711, Majiffy wrote:I don't really get much blowback at all. Just the occasional sheep.
You get so much natural heat I doubt you'd notice a shift of a few centigrade.-
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Majiffy - do you have a take on Rach?-
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In post 716, Voidedmafia wrote:In post 698, Thor665 wrote:Stalled wagons on Day 1 mean something.
Considering wagons stalled on Mollie and HD, would you put some stock into the possibility of Mollie being scum?
Those are quite different sort of wagons.
I will say if I am right about Human than Mollie is much more likely to be town - if that excites you.
In post 717, Majiffy wrote:Posts D2 read with a lot of fakeness and not a lot of investment in doing any work or scumhunting herself. So that's troublesome. I can't remember her making much of an impression on me D1.
Hint: Day 1 is Day 2, only longer.-
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Do you see its stall as likely scum motivated considering the existence of the Human wagon?-
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In post 721, Human Destroyer wrote:Secondly, how does it make Mollie more likely to be town?
She was a counter wagon attempt on your wagon.
In post 721, Human Destroyer wrote:Thirdly, is the inverse true? (If you're wrong about me [which you are], is Mollie much more likely to be scum?) (And yes, I actually do need that much clarification)
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It was kind of a silly question, that's why we ignored it.
You gonna push that Majiffy wagon anywhere - or are you just sidelining?-
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By voting you, not explaining the vote, not asking anyone else to vote you, and then mumbling off into some vague side discussion that has nothing to do with you?
Wow, pardon me as I step off the tracks, I don't want to be plowed down by this aggressive speed wagon of pressure.-
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Because every time I start reading your posts I fall asleep because they lack any sizzle?
You barely say anything in the above that can't be summed up as 'don't suspect me!'.
Meh.
Why is FT your strongest town read?-
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In post 776, pirate mollie wrote:plz explain to me how "sheeping" and "testing things out" equal a strong town read. cos I am confused.
My bad - you sheep null and scum reads then?
Okay - just tell me what your read on him is, and then explain why you're sheeping him. I'm clearly just being dumb.
In post 776, pirate mollie wrote:also you are stacking up questions which you have yet to answer!
In post 776, pirate mollie wrote:who on here is a pr hunter
do you not look at nks
how am I sidelining my vote
I am going to add to this do you have a strong town read on majiffy? what is your read on ft?
1. I don't know/care.
2. I do.
3. By constantly distancing yourself for it and doing nothing with it.
4. No.
5. Lurksack who I would like to have dead or replaced.-
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@Human - do you have any reads besides the Rach one?-
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Because he's scum? Is that the answer? I think that's the answer.-
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In post 799, Human Destroyer wrote:Thor P-Edit: Incorrect. I'd expect you to figure out I'm town by now, but it seems that the concept is lost on you.
It really is.
What am I missing?-
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So basically I'm not missing much of anything?
No worries then.-
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