Micro 188: Matrix6 (Game Over)

[anorway]

VOTE: Ferret

Serious vote. We both agree that he's the most likely scum based on the first two pages.

~Mara

How have you come to this conclusion after only two posts by Ferret?

[anorway]

VOTE: macmollie

To see if it encourages at least one of them to post something about their vote. Both of them have posted in other games the last 24 hours.

[anorway]

did not realise this game had started apologies.

both of the previous posts were by mollie so I'm not sure what was going down there since I haven't spoke to her this weekend yet.

#58 looks very cheap reasoning; if we are not here we're not going to post. gut scumread on anorway for that.

thinking sakura is town too. I need to chat to mollie and see where she's at with this.

UNVOTE:

Better.

unvote
vote anorway

I was thinking the exact same thing about #58.

Any other reasons why are you voting me instead of Sakura when we had practically the same reasoning for the macmollie votes? Also other have too complained about macmollie's lacking activity.

[anorway]

@Macmollie: still missing the reasoning for 27.

[anorway]

So I'm gone for like a day and finds 7 new pages to read? You sure are active. Catching up now

[anorway]

UNVOTE: Macmollie

Okay, I can do with a Ferret lynch. It's especially this that does it;

I'm not online 24/7

yet he posts about ~35-40 posts in other games between 91 and 249, about 36 hours between #91 and #249, which means, in average an post an hour. Also if you're right Mala, then Ferret's explanation is weak too.

Intent to hammer Ferret

[anorway]

Also I'm getting nice town vibes from Bork and Sugar, due to both being quite active and seems to scumhunt much.

Sakura is a town read as well, and that's due to me playing a game (Newbie 1371) where Sakura was scum, and her playstyle is quite different from then. She also got a lot of tips from the Dead QT from that game on how to play as scum, and she don't use them in this game. Might have a look at that Open to confirm my read.

The rest is kinda null so far

[anorway]

@ everyone

I don't like sakura who is with me. places a vote on us for weak-assed pathetic reasons, runs away, is being sticky with it and lurking out the in game action and not getting her hands dirty.

still sus of lucky cos of reasons already stated by mac although #133 moved to unsure for me. so

UNVOTE:

Didn't I also place a very weak-assed vote on you, run away, had the vote until 302, and didn't post yesterday? Doesn't that make me scum?

[anorway]

Am I even at L-1?

It seems like you knew that perfectly well.

Okay so how was I posting today.

I don't think that I posted today before.

Please tell me why I was brought to L-1

I'm not online 24/7

[anorway]

VOTE: Ferretlover

[anorway]

No need for a claim, if Ferret isn't scum then no one is.

[anorway]

It's my first time hammering someone though, and clearly I should've thought through this more. Sorry if you happen to be PR, Ferret, and didn't get a chance to claim.

[anorway]

@Sakura: If he missed that he was at L-2 at time of posting instead of L-1, then that just makes 311 even weirder.

[anorway]

I can't believe I forgot there was 60+ posts between those posts. Thanks Bork, I'm going to have bad selfconciousness for some days because of my too early hammer, whether Ferret flips town (in some strange, alternate universe) or scum.

[anorway]

forgot

[anorway]

@TSO: I had page 10 on a different tab so I didn't have to scroll back to get it so I forgot completely that it was like 60 posts away from each other. You can ask the NSA about that

[anorway]

Oh, didn't realise that had started already. Just posting now to let you know that I'm here, and I'll answer the questions when I wake up.

[anorway]

That's for hammering without waiting for a claim. Bad, bad habit. Don't do it again.

Good thing you learn from your mistakes. That won't happen again.

@anorway get in here and tell me why that hammer was a town act.

It wasn't, it was my stupid brain that didn't realise that page 10 was like 60+ posts from 311. When I first read 311, I had just read page 10 on a different tab, and I interpreted as Ferret trying to act dumb, especially after what Mala said in 301. So basically I misinterpreted that 249 was like 10 posts apart from 311.

Yes, I know, I hammered too early. I can take all the blame for that lynch.

[anorway]

@Anor:

Can we have an update on this? Letting us know if you looked at the Open game to confirm the read.

~Mala

Yes, I've read the Open. It definitely strengthens my town read on Sakura, but I wouldn't say confirm based on meta alone. In the same Newbie I played with Sakura, one person said that a different person was playing his town play, but that other person turned out to be scum.

[anorway]

he could've said something else... for example regarding ferret's flip after this hammer. But nope!

What do you mean about this?

[anorway]

anorway I seriously have zero idea about how you feel about any player sans Sakura right now.

Primer question: who is scum on the ferret wagon, in your opinion?

I've previously had you and Sugar as a town read, and I still feel that way. Also I'm having a slight town read on TSO as well, but that's just my gut feeling. All of the others are still null-ish region.

Since I'm having Sugar and Sakura as a town read, that leaves Klick and Lucky left. Going to see through their ISO later on.

[anorway]

Lucky there is zero reason for you to be on TSO and not anorway if you think anorway is scum. What gives?

I also don't really understand what you're trying to argue here leading up to your vote.

It's not that post alone I am working on bork. I am basing it on how his day 1 looked to me, and how he has started today. Him and Anorway are my top reads. Anorway isn't here yet, and I don't want a repeat of ferret's wagon (building before he even had a chance to talk).

Could you elaborate on which posts during day 1 that you found scummy?

[anorway]

Klick and I are still discussing. Can you hold off ISO'ing us for a few days until him and I are on the page? He's limited access until Sat/Sun, but will be fine after then.

We are already sharing similarity on some reads, but some are not being agreed on and I would like time to fix this.

Thank you.

~Mala

I can wait with ISO'ing. Let's hope you two agree to a certain level that you don't end up with two heads.

It said I was logged into Klicking Kittens..

Perhaps it was a different tab?

[anorway]

he could've said something else... for example regarding ferret's flip after this hammer. But nope!

What do you mean about this?

I meant you didn't comment on ferret's flip after your hammer in whih you were super sure he would flip scum that he didn't need to claim.

Ah, I see. I've commented a bit on it in post #391.

[anorway]

You have some good points about TSO. Not so sure about him yet, but he's not gut-town anymore, so I'll wait and see what he responds on your post.

[anorway]

Who knows? In fact, everyone except us two are due for a prod.

[anorway]

VOTE: TSO

Placing a vote on him because I'm interested in what he has to say about 407. Hopefully we can get some discussion from it.

[anorway]

Anorway

1. you have me, borkie, and Klick as town reads?

2. why?

3. you also say that the three of us being read as town leaves Kittens and Lucky

4. what about TSO though? what are your thoughts on him?

~Sugar

Added numbers if it should be confusing;

1. I have you, Bork and Sakura, not Klick.

2. I've had you and Bork as town reads because you two both having been fairly active and contributes nicely with scumhunting. And Sakura mainly for meta reasons, as I previously stated.

3. I answered Bork's question of who I thought could be scum based on the Ferret wagon, and since I had town reads on Sakura and Sugar that only left Kittens and Lucky.

4. I've had a gut-town read on TSO, but I'm kinda unsure after the good points Lucky made.

[anorway]

Since TSO is being replaced I'll scum hunt in the other direction. KK, can you be a little more specific?

@Anor You voted TSO, and I like that, but in your last post you said your only "unsure" that he isn't TOWN. It would be more appropriate to just FoS him at that point wouldn't it?

I know, but I hoped it maybe could get some discussion going. That's why I placed that vote.

[anorway]

Prodded. Going to need a replacement from tomorrow and onwards, since going to be V/LA for a longer period of time.

Going to answer some questions later on.

[anorway]

Don't need a replacement after all.

Okay, I'm at L-1 so might as well claim VT.

UNVOTE: Mutley because I think he's town for now.

[anorway]

I love how you only appear when your name pops up, tho this time you appeared because of a prod.

And what makes you think that? Some examples, please.

On page 17 for instance I was posting like multiple times without my name being mentioned between my posts.

[anorway]

Go to Page 15 and ctrl+F anorway, hence why you popped up on Page 16 and stayed there until you weren't suspected anymore.

If you didn't know, at the end of page 14, D2 started, and of course that hammer was going to be discussed. And I first posted on page 16 because I didn't realise that the day had already started, in fact I almost forgot about this game since we had a night that almost lasted a week.

[anorway]

Where then? Using a tablet, so I can't CTRL+F.

[anorway]

You were away for like 100 or 200 posts, then you came back,

then you were away until your name was mentioned

,

then you went away again

, and now you name was mentioned again (even an intent to hammer on you happened) and you're back due to the prod.

Yes, I was out of town on the 18th of June, leaving me unable to post. I should have mentioned that I was V/LA for a day, but I forgot about it. It may have been 180 posts while I was away, but it was only one day. However, the next day I was pretty active, so your point (in red) don't stand. Blue: if you mean the start of D2, then I hadn't realized that it had begun yet. I didn't post on 30th of June, because I really had nothing to add. I don't think I was mentioned between the 29th and 01st except for the votecount.

I don't like how you're desperately trying to create some evidence to help the mislynch here. Why do find this name mentioning thing so scummy?

VOTE: Sakura Hana

[anorway]

Well i'm still set on anorway, so idk what else could happen, no one has brought anything new to the table either, and KK is still missing.

P-Edit: Because that is considering actively lurking.

So basically you mean that whenever someone's name is mentioned, if that person don't post within a certain timeframe, it is called active lurking?

[anorway]

But that doesn't prove

when

I'm reading the thread. I usually only read the thread whenever I log on, and I post afterwards if I have something to add.

[anorway]

Yeah, and I've always had something to add except for 30th of June. Still don't prove much.

If you had visited my profile while I was gone, then you would have seen that I never logged on on the 26th, and never during the 2nd or the 3rd.

[anorway]

And not on the 18th as well.

[anorway]

Sugar isn't due for a prod yet, still a few hours left.

[anorway]

And anorway dissapeared again...

Not so sure about that...

It's cos I did a magic trick.

Too bad it was only temporary.

Anyways, I'm gonna flip town whether you like it or not.

[anorway]

Actually i entered LyLo with the intention to lynch KK, the discussion started to shift me towards lynching mutley until KK forced me to vote, which was what made me question my read on her, and then with all that throwing suspicion at me i just snapped and voted her...

Oh well, I hope anorway learned to not quicklynch like that

I hope all of us learnt that.

Thanks for the game, everyone.