whats going on
altho I will still be able to post in spots
In post 254, Maestro wrote:vett may be a PR but he's a useless one at the moment, as long as he's impossible for me to read
I've left my vote on vettrock but if youACTUALLY READmy posts you'd see I'm not scumreading him:
1. I was egging him to take a stance onSOMETHINGand I guess it worked. So far his posts have been wordy, fencesitty bullshit so if he wants to try and lynch me today he can fight that uphill battle but it's not gonna happen.
2. I've said multiple times I don't want him lynched today because he is as close as we have to something confirmed PR (butNOTconfirmed Town). If he's still alive later on in the game because scum are saving him as the lynchbait he is,THENI want him out of the way because A: I don't trust his doublevote in MyLo/LyLo if he even keeps it at that point, and B: he muddies the waters the longer he's alive.
In post 255, OkaPoka wrote:Thats were we differ. I think Vett is perfectly capable of handling situations and is conf town. I like his posts. You should unvote him and start scumhunting.
In post 257, Maestro wrote:vettork isn't confTown. He is confDoublevoter.
Don't EVER tell me what to do again.
In post 278, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 222, pirate mollie wrote:catching up
In post 223, pirate mollie wrote:give me few
In post 224, pirate mollie wrote:* a few
Yes. Where is mollie?
In post 283, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm sheeping ETL's vote for Xayzeck for sheeping
VOTE: Xayzeck
And these post come off as forced and buddying up to/trying to play to Maestro's meanypants capsrage shtick
In post 269, Xayzeck wrote:LOL this game has took a hilarious turn for getting picky and fed up over the silliest of tells and the dumbest of remarks
In post 271, Xayzeck wrote:In post 257, Maestro wrote:vettork isn't confTown. He is confDoublevoter.
Don't EVER tell me what to do again.
Hi yes this very much
Also Oka's blatant dickriding on Vett makes me very comfortable. And I'm not sure how he's so confident in Vett's reads. Heck, he doesn't even look like he has developed reads on his own, it's like he's just blindly sheeping Vett.
It sucks
I hate it
Let's lynch it
In post 295, OkaPoka wrote:Are you insane pirate? Do you always go on and sheep random people, to get a lynch?
In post 303, OkaPoka wrote:1. You are sheeping, maybe not random people
2. Paranoia
3. Wut, I was pressuring you to post. You said you can post in some spots. You didn't even rvs
In post 296, OkaPoka wrote:Clarify why Maestro is town pirate.
In post 297, OkaPoka wrote:Pirate, social media is controlled by Vett. Read the game.
If there is an sk we have to be wary about it. Seems like you are trying to make everyone ignore sk.
So I have no problem with the V/LA over the weekend that you stated. The three posting in a row saying you were going to post and then not post of kind of annoying. I would also comment that you know you can use the Q+ to put more than one quote in a message rather than posting 7 times in row for your reply. I realize some people don't like walls, but I think it is easier to read, and when I go back and re-read if don't put a bunch of times right after each other.
In post 298, Xayzeck wrote:
Whats so interesting?
In post 317, pirate mollie wrote:is this the game where town coalesce on a scumread of mine
is this really happening
In post 321, Brian Skies wrote:Also, Vettrock, I don't like your votes on Maestro. I think his posting is coming from a really aggravated and townie mindset as far as you are concerned.
In post 323, Brian Skies wrote:In post 322, pirate mollie wrote:In post 321, Brian Skies wrote:Also, Vettrock, I don't like your votes on Maestro. I think his posting is coming from a really aggravated and townie mindset as far as you are concerned.
hey brian
it kind of looks like subtle cosying up to maestro
Me or Vettrock? Or Xay?
In post 324, Brian Skies wrote:If the last one, I agree wholeheartedly.
In post 328, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 325, Cabd wrote:mememememee
hi mollie i missed you over the weekend.
considering oka but don't really wanna put at L1 and I have not decided if he really believes his own BS or not yet.
In post 499, Majiffy wrote:In post 497, pirate mollie wrote:I am not sure that vetty could be more town even if he tried.
We'll probably end up having a falling out.
In post 437, Not_Mafia wrote:I can't follow the flowchart here, what's the emergency procedure?
And why do you not have more concrete reads yet?
In post 555, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 548, Brian Skies wrote:I also don't like being called obtuse and illiterate.
This is not a reason to scumread anyone nor a reason to get into a shitfest in-thread.
Maestro is a sassy sassy young man. <3He is easily wound up. It is not really alignment indicative, and neither are his potshots at anyone.
That doesn't mean he's town and it doesn't mean he's scum. It's null.
I want to know why you spent so much time and effort refuting his case againstVettrockwhen it is pretty widely accepted at this point that he is not today's lynch? It really looks to me like Maestro was asked for an explanation, gave his thoughts about Vettrock, and then you come out of nowhere with a longer-than-mastin-post rebuttal when it didn't concern you at all, and you do not seem to be scumreading Maestro for it.
This is my problem. I don't understand what motivated you to do such a thing, and I cannot see how it would fit with a town POV.
In post 572, OkaPoka wrote:That's because ETL in Maestro are bff.
The reason why I associate meanypants with scum is due to my first newbie game, where scum was aggressively angry and ragey. Then in my first scum game, y partner when all caps mode and ragey. So I feel raging is always overreactin. Which is why I will associate it usually with scum. Unless your Xay.
In post 573, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 571, pirate mollie wrote:you are really going out of your way here to justify a nullmaestro read
The point I was making is that he's null and Brian is attacking him for null things in order to defend Vettrock which I don't understand.
In post 588, Majiffy wrote:In post 586, OkaPoka wrote:I don't want to have a Xay lynch yet, but I will consider putting him at L-1. if necessary.
I'd appreciate L-1.
5 days till deadline.
I won't be here at all Friday or Saturday. Which means if we dick around today and tomorrow, I have effectively 1.5-2 days.
In post 592, vettrock wrote:In post 577, pirate mollie wrote:In post 572, OkaPoka wrote:That's because ETL in Maestro are bff.
The reason why I associate meanypants with scum is due to my first newbie game, where scum was aggressively angry and ragey. Then in my first scum game, y partner when all caps mode and ragey. So I feel raging is always overreactin. Which is why I will associate it usually with scum. Unless your Xay.
that is a pretty dumb way in how to navigate a game.
town are more likely to go all ragey than scum, cos scum are worried about how they look and don't like to make enemies.
maestro is town
I think both town and scum, can rage, and people who have played a while know this can try and keep the same playstyle to not give away their alignment.
I think the key is the analysis of the rage. Town tend to get frustrated when they think they are right and people are not listening to them. Scum have to be more creative as any case they have is basically made up, since they already know who the scum is.You will note Maestro says several times that he doesn't know what about my posts gets him so angry.This is because he can't pick any particular thing, because there is nothing there. He is raging to keep consistent with his meta of raging. If that requires manipulating a few facts on the way, that is part of being scum.
In post 622, Brian Skies wrote:I was getting similar sentiments as far as Xay is concerned. I'm just being incredibly stubborn about it.
So who else do you think it could be? Not_Mafia?
In post 685, vettrock wrote:In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.
I've stated it before. It is not so much the rage and the twisting of facts and and misrepresenting what I have said to suit his agenda. Town doesn't have to do that. Town looks at the evidence and makes conclusions. Scum manipulates the evidence to make it fit their conclusions.
In post 688, vettrock wrote:In post 687, pirate mollie wrote:In post 685, vettrock wrote:In post 683, OkaPoka wrote:Elaborate on Maestro scum, Vett.
I've stated it before. It is not so much the rage and the twisting of facts and and misrepresenting what I have said to suit his agenda. Town doesn't have to do that. Town looks at the evidence and makes conclusions. Scum manipulates the evidence to make it fit their conclusions.
this is not even remotely true
I think you are attempting to view the game from a very black and white perspective and unfortunately that will lead you to a lot of mistakes. go look back on our newbie game, and look at the difference between anem and jimmy. fortunately Iknowmaestro so I won't be make that same mistake here.
In that game Aneninen was the one who was accused of misrepresenting things, and yes he was town. The difference is most of the misrepresentation there was due to the language barrier. I can assume by Maestro's posts that English is his first language.
I disagree that I have black and white perspective. There is a range of scumminess. I'm not saying my reads could not be wrong, but they are the best I have with the information that is available.
In post 704, Majiffy wrote:I said stop
Mollie
Whats that sound
Xay is scum
Help me put him in the ground
In post 706, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Mollie my problem is more that i dont have enough town reads because everyone and their mother looks like scum.
Off the top of my head -
Jiffy could be scum because he's actually trying to direct suspicions and I'd even say coax discussion (his way) which is something he only does as scum from what I've seen. However there is still a bit of that stubbornness in his reads so that is throwing my read a little.
Oka could be scum because of the way he instantly jumped on me as if he'd found a way in for an easy mislynch (and shows exactly he's never played with me - familiar scum tend not to attack me these days)
Vett could be scum for everything that maestro said.
But maestro could be scum because his later posts do not seem entirely genuine.
Mollie and xay are like my only town reads. Brian is.. sort of a town read but more of a lazy one. And not mafia.. i dont know. I should probably iso that. I havent cuz lazy and kinda need a flip.