Micro 528: Double Day Unlimited -- Game Over

[Luna Fox]

Hello All

[Luna Fox]

So i've been thinking on how to approach this setup, and to make use of it in ways to find scum, since i prefer townhunting, im just going to apply pressure on everyone and remove votes as i get townreads:

Vote: Firebringer
Vote: Lucky2u
Vote: Davsto
Vote: Kindy
Vote: Pablito
Vote: Oh god my life
Vote: Vedith
Vote: lane

[Luna Fox]

Was that sarcasm? I don't see how you could've seen that post as anything other than null.

[Luna Fox]

Was that sarcasm? I don't see how you could've seen that post as anything other than null.

YOU ARE TOWN I WILL HEAR NO ARGUMENTS FROM YOU!

I don't understand.
How is my post townie.

[Luna Fox]

Inb4 everyone copies my plan and then everyone's lynched D1.

[Luna Fox]

Btw with lane's post (If the mod does count vote:everyone as literally placing a vote on every player), then Davsto is at L-2

[Luna Fox]

I don't see a vote for me in your strikethrough post.
Do you have a townread on me?

[Luna Fox]

So basically if a kill doesn't make sense, Firebringer is scum, ok.

[Luna Fox]

So basically if a kill doesn't make sense, Firebringer is scum, ok.

Your not make sense is another persons lead.
People like to derive meaning from things such as kills, trains, and even reads list.
Sometimes it does, but when a player like me takes advantage of players paranoia on a so called 'meaning' it is sheer CHAOS!

Counterpoint, I always take Night kills as WIFOM because there could be a multiple of reasons why someone's Night killed and trying to find the correct one will just lead to confusion.

[Luna Fox]

On Another note, you still haven't replied to my question, if it's a joke then admit it's a joke, if it's true, then i'd like to know why.

[Luna Fox]

I love how you didn't bold your question and Davsto who supposedly wanted to ask the same thing didn't fix it.

[Luna Fox]

On Another note, you still haven't replied to my question, if it's a joke then admit it's a joke, if it's true, then i'd like to know why.

[Luna Fox]

Sorry i keep asking, specially if is joke, but i just can't tell right now.

[Luna Fox]

Meanie

[Luna Fox]

Anyone read the statistics on this setup and realize that town only has 33% win rate?
That is worrying...

I mean sample size is kind of small, but still.

Mountainous.

[Luna Fox]

So what we have here is Luna telling us to prove that she isn't scum, while she can just sit back and look towny for it?

That's not what i'm doing.
Firebringer said im town, for literally no reason, so i'm asking him why, because it could be scum buddying.

[Luna Fox]

#20 - Asking if there is a town read on her... 20 posts in and she wants to know that?
#22 - This is giving scum a reason to make a random kill if they are not FB.

Re:20 > Kyndy left my name off her list, since she quoted my strategy i assumed she's going for the same thing i.e. leaving off townreads, which would imply she has a townread on me, again, unexplained, so i wanna know the reason.
Re:22 > That was joke, the next post (24) was the serious one.

Overall, you seem to be nitpicking.

[Luna Fox]

On another note, im cool with lane so far so

Unvote: lane

[Luna Fox]

Yeah he really does seem to be nitpicking. I feel like it's too early in the game to be nitpicking.
However, if I recall, Vedith doesn't like RVS and always wants to get out of it as soon as possible so yeah. I don't think the nitpicking is anything more than him trying to get us out of RVS

If the nitpicking was things that i had indeed done, then yeah, i wouldn't mind, but notice how he's stretching his reasons in an effort to cast suspicion onto me for things i'm not doing for example: his assesment of post 31, along with noting post 22 and ignoring post 24, and his indication that im asking ppl to prove im not scum, when all im doing is asking to the people that apparently have townreads on me for no reason, about said reason. Overall this doesn't look like scumhunting and rather trying to make me look scummy while appearing like scumhunting.

[Luna Fox]

So what do you think about Vedith's post and my assesment of it.
Do you agree with him?
Do you agree with me?
Do you agree with none? (i.e. possible misinterpretation of each other's intentions)
Why?

[Luna Fox]

^
With that Davsto is at L-1

[Luna Fox]

Reasons please?

[Luna Fox]

your voting everyone and removing votes after they prove they are town seems like reverse (I'm drawing a blank on the term here... AtE? the one where you reward other players for agreeing with you/town reading you). Worst case scenario it's greedy and anti-town if you are town. Day 1, this is good enough for a vote from me

Why is it not a good strategy for someone that usually has an easier time finding town than scum?

[Luna Fox]

Sorry Luna, I can't tell when you are joking, so when I see you comment about a random kill being on FB I will pick up on it. Regardless of what you follow up with, your comment is out there and can easily be a defence on yourself late game.
I'm not sure how it is nitpicking - Tell me, what have you done to scum hunt rather than vote everyone and say that you want them to come across as town for you to unvote?

1) I'm not good at scumhunting, im better off townhunting.
2) Up until Page 2, the only actual closest thing to scumhunt i had done was question fire on his reasonless townread of me, at first i thought he was joking but he continued like he was serious so i questioned him about it multiple times.

[Luna Fox]

@Luna - Why have you taken your vote off Lane? What is town from him?

Forgot this.
His interrogation of Kyndy, mostly. Becuase I also didn't know why Kyndy had left my name off.

[Luna Fox]

because it's greedy, also benefits from a scum pov, and forces us to play around you rather than with you.

Huh, i didn't think about it that way, tho i think it's better than not voting anyone and only voting ppl when im getting close to PoE.

[Luna Fox]

1) I'm not good at scumhunting, im better off townhunting.

this is an excuse for failure later.

What do you mean.

[Luna Fox]

1) I'm not good at scumhunting, im better off townhunting.

this is an excuse for failure later.

What do you mean.

we mislynch player x, you were behind the wagon for player x, we question you about it. you say "Well I told you I wasn't a good scum hunter!"

I don't really understand, what's so scummy about townhunting...

[Luna Fox]

I'm sorry but for someone to say that they can't scum hunt and then accuse someone of not scum hunting, this is so sketchy.

that's not what i said, i said im not good at scumhunting and that im better at townhunting.

[Luna Fox]

1) I'm

not good at

scumhunting, im better off townhunting.

Do you not read or what...

[Luna Fox]

I read what you said

You obviously don't get my point...

Then what is your point.
You say that i said i can't scumhunt.
I'm showing you proof that's not what i said.

[Luna Fox]

This is the reply you're looking for v

2) Up until Page 2, the only actual closest thing to scumhunt i had done was question fire on his reasonless townread of me, at first i thought he was joking but he continued like he was serious so i questioned him about it multiple times.

Also Lucky2u's worries make sense from a Town PoV

Unvote: Lucky

Vedith's still scumlean for the constant misrepresentation of my posts.

[Luna Fox]

Vedith's

now a

scumlean for the constant misrepresentation of my posts.

EBWODP

[Luna Fox]

I don't really like how it feels like you're playing dumb when they ask you / point out flaws in your reasoning...

Or I literally don't know what he meant by "excuse for failure later" which is why I asked.

[Luna Fox]

Btw Kyndy this was directed at you, you still haven't answered it:

So what do you think about Vedith's post and my assesment of it.
Do you agree with him?
Do you agree with me?
Do you agree with none? (i.e. possible misinterpretation of each other's intentions)
Why?

[Luna Fox]

Btw, for those harping on the fact that Vedith says that i'm not scumhunting and im accusing him of not scumhunting.

I am indeed scumhunting, along my usual townhunting.
But i'm not the one that is supposed to show how i am scumhunting, Burden of Proof is on the accuser.
Just like how I showed how Vedith isn't scumhunting.

Something to think about.

[Luna Fox]

But i'm not the one that is supposed to show how i am scumhunting

Can you explain this comment further?
Why are you not supposed to show how you are scum hunting when someone asks you?

You're accusing me of not scumhunting.
I'm not supposed to show you how i'm scumhunting because it's obvious to me.
If you think my scumhunting isn't scumhunting you should show everyone as proof of how my posts aren't scumhunting (i.e. fake scumhunting). And why.
I already gave you some of my scumhunting posts as half of your homework, i'm not going to do the whole homework for you.
I already provided proof of your misrepresentations as well.
From which you still haven't replied to.
Now who's the person not scumhunting here?

[Luna Fox]

Considering from your PoV i'm scum "not scumhunting"
Why are you trying to make me prove to you that i'm not scum and that i'm scumhunting?
You should be able to search that yourself and prove to the town that i'm indeed scum, not scumhunting.
Not the reverse.

[Luna Fox]

Post #51 is not scum hunting... It's you just asking if someone is any of the only options to go with. It's like me going to you - Do you think that Bob is Town, Null or Scum? It's not scum hunting it's trying to look like you are.

So you conveniently omitted the last part where i also asked "why" because reasons for someone agreeing or disagreeing is what determines which reasonings are fake or not and i can figure out mindset from there.

You didn't provide any proof

Posts: 49, 71, 73, 75, 78. Show Proof of your misrepresentations.

and it's funny that you see my comments as misrepresentations when even Kyndy knew exactly what I was saying.

IMO. Kindly could be either (Following your misrepresentations because you conveniently are omitting the convenient parts for you) or (Scum, who's also in for misrepresenting), tho i'm leaning more on the former.

You also ignored the comment in #79 "You misinterpreted him as restating that you can't scumhunt, however he was simply pointing out that you shouldn't have felt confident enough with your scumhunting skills to know when other people are / are not scumhunting."

I said i was bad at scumhunting, i never said i couldn't do it, and idk how me being bad at scumhunting prevents me from noticing when people misrepresent me or throw mud at me.

[Luna Fox]

Considering from your PoV i'm scum "not scumhunting"
Why are you trying to make me prove to you that i'm not scum and that i'm scumhunting?
You should be able to search that yourself and prove to the town that i'm indeed scum, not scumhunting.
Not the reverse.

Okay, lets get this straight... I'm not saying for you to prove it... I originally asked where you were actually scum hunting, you responded with a stupid post of you are not good at scum hunting.
I'm not trying to get you to say where your scum hunts are now, I'm trying to explain this simple reason of me thinking you are scum, but you seem to be struggling to keep up.
I have searched you myself, and I don't see scum hunting, I see scum.

So once agian, you conveniently ignored the 2nd part of post 61, and the entirety of Post 78

[Luna Fox]

You're just picking the things that are convenient for your arguments, and leaving out the counter arguments, you're not scum hunting, you're looking to paint someone as scummy in order to get a mislynch, you're scum.

[Luna Fox]

You even said yourself the only thing close was questioning why FB is reading you town...

Up until page 2 (although it was more or less what i was doing last night before sleeping, so it's technically up until my disembodying of your post).

[Luna Fox]

I'd like to think im making my thought process crystal clear, but if anyone not named Vedith asks then sure i'll explain it (again)

[Luna Fox]

Thing is, you gotta be honest whether you dislike it, or you think i'm scum for using such method. And whether you think my play aligns more with a town mindset or a scum mindset.

[Luna Fox]

Well tbh, I figured it was the correct approach to the multivoting mechanic since i usually come up with townreads more often than scumreads, and it could leave my diminishing PoE list visible for everyone, now I see that people don't like it and I don't think i can ammend that, so i'm just gonna continue rolling with it as of right now.

Unvote: Davsto

[Luna Fox]

I like your analysis, i don't know how you got "Everyone on the first page is town except lane" was this based only of first page posts?

[Luna Fox]

Yes yes it was. My gut hath spoken.

I like gut.
Any posts in particular gave you that impression about me, kyndy and fire? General tone?

[Luna Fox]

I still think my "vote all" post is more of a null rather than town. But considering you're calling my whole set of posts a townread it could be because of my questioning so i like that.

Unvote: Oh god my life

I disagree about lane scum tho, at least for now.

[Luna Fox]

Tho i still don't know how he finds vedith's misreps town, but im tired of that line of questioning since it's gotten stale and it's just me bringing back the same things over and over and them getting misrep'd in the same way again and it's just tiring.

[Luna Fox]

His very first post is full of them:

Afternoon all,

So what we have here is Luna telling us to prove that she isn't scum, while she can just sit back and look towny for it?
#31 I'm not too keen on, looks like effortless scratching for sides, but as there was no follow up I can't go too much into it.
#20 - Asking if there is a town read on her... 20 posts in and she wants to know that?
#22 - This is giving scum a reason to make a random kill if they are not FB.

#42 - I'm not sure what Lane is getting at with this. Wouldn't it had been odd to show intent to selfvote? The Luna part I assume was because it was just a quick copy - Kyndy to confirm from there though.

Edited the post tags in to make it easier to follow, notice my replies on:

So what we have here is Luna telling us to prove that she isn't scum, while she can just sit back and look towny for it?

That's not what i'm doing.
Firebringer said im town, for literally no reason, so i'm asking him why, because it could be scum buddying.

#20 - Asking if there is a town read on her... 20 posts in and she wants to know that?
#22 - This is giving scum a reason to make a random kill if they are not FB.

Re:20 > Kyndy left my name off her list, since she quoted my strategy i assumed she's going for the same thing i.e. leaving off townreads, which would imply she has a townread on me, again, unexplained, so i wanna know the reason.
Re:22 > That was joke, the next post (24) was the serious one.

Overall, you seem to be nitpicking.

And i still don't even know what he was complaining about post 31, that's like super reachy to me.

[Luna Fox]

Lane changing his mind once he is pointed to being my scum buddy...
My point stands - And if people can't see how sketchy Luna is then it's an easy scum win.
Remind me in the future to play the dumb card and people will see you as town.

Actually this sounds kinda like frustrated town. I'm confused now.

[Luna Fox]

Unvote: Vedith

Maybe lane was right and it's all misunderstanding. I want more time to think on this one.

[Luna Fox]

Unvote: pablito

This kind of analisis is town IMO.

[Luna Fox]

So far i still don't think Fire's town, sure he townread me, and others have explained reasons to why my post is town, more so pablito than anyone else, but im not sure why Firebringer couldn't have brought himself to explain it, and now that pablito did then he pretty much can't whether it was legit or not, so im just going to take it as null. Most of his ISO is IIoA or poking his head to talk about the setup instead of finding scum with the exception of:

I almost want to vote Vedith.

He kind of is usually easy mislynch bait though in games tbh.

Which is a wishy-washy stance, also:

Ending my RVS vote.
Got nothing out of it >.>
UNVOTE: Davsto

If he didn't get anything out of his RVS vote, then why unvote the person, this suggest he townreads the person which means he DID get something out of his RVS vote, if not, he has no read on anyone and there's no reason to unvote unless he wanted to pressure someone else, which he didn't.

How is lucky2u town?

This suggest he disagrees, correct me if im wrong, this question seems kinda awkward.

[Luna Fox]

At least davsto is on the ball, I find pabluto vote interesting he doesn't place it on lane.

Although this is a fair question.
I actually do want to know why he just didnt place it on both?

[Luna Fox]

I don't see lucky2u as town. Look over his 7 posts they are completely all over the place and has no direction.
He takes his first vote serious I think then invites several players then says I am scum then later invites me and places it somewhere else, it's all over the place with him in short span.

It's not reading town to me, Null at best.

His reasons for scumreading me didn't look fake and actual legit concerns.

[Luna Fox]

@lane: Can you explain how your thought process went from "OGML is drunk posting and that's only done by town" to "OGML's bugging me" and finally "this is a scum driven wagon with OGML and Fire"?

[Luna Fox]

Also forgot to comment this earlier but:

Luna, town for being bad at theory.

Why me being bad at theory makes me town?

[Luna Fox]

Ogml, when I flip town, sorry for your sake, if I flip town, then will you consider what you're doing tunneling?

The beat way to make town resort to an omgus is by doing the same thing. So there's that

Is this the way you talk to your scumreads?

[Luna Fox]

Also forgot to comment this earlier but:

Luna, town for being bad at theory.

Why me being bad at theory makes me town?

You aren't an alt right?

No, why?

[Luna Fox]

I will help with my own vote tho.

Vote: lane

208 is super weird.

[Luna Fox]

You're talking as if they're town tunneling, which is contradicting with your scumread of them.

[Luna Fox]

I don't understand, i thought you said OGML is scum?
I find it weird that you said that they were the scum pushing your wagon and then you are talking to them as if they are wrong town.
Make up your mind, because i feel it's contradictory.

[Luna Fox]

I just said I'm talking them to learn his mindset and to see if he's willing to admit fault. You're the one who thinks I'm talking to him as town. I'm not talking to him as town at all. I can't help if I don't talk to my scum reads the way you talk to your scum reads. My mind is made up. You're the one trying to make it seem like it's not

If your mind is made up, you should be pushing for their lynch instead of talking to them as if they are wrong, because you arent going to convince THEM that they are scum.
It doesn't feel right however i look at it, please explain?

[Luna Fox]

There's not going to be any changing of the minds fire/everyone else. Go ahead and get it over with

How can I explain without getting an answer?????

Why are you getting mad at me, i'm only asking you a question because your thought process feels contradictory, then you say i'm misrepresenting so I explain again, I've been trying to reach out to you and see if i can see it the way you're seeing, but as much as i try you keep yelling and saying im misrepping you, sorry, my mind's made up now too.

[Luna Fox]

Please claim, Lane

I lol'd

[Luna Fox]

I'm gonna wait for flip before making decissions.
If anyone's sticking to me out of all this is kyndy.

[Luna Fox]

I'm gonna wait for flip before making decissions.
If anyone's sticking to me out of all this is kyndy.

Why?

I'll say why after the flip, because if lane flips scum then it's a meh point, but it's related to 242

[Luna Fox]

Look see 242
Looks like Kyndy doesn't really actually care about lane's alignment and was policy.

Vote: Kyndy

Fire can be town for now.
I want more thoughts from pablito, he's currently my strongest townread and i want to work with him.
Also sorry lane, I misread your intentions, i'll not let your death be in vain.

[Luna Fox]

He is no longer mislynch bait I thought he was.
I feel like he went to passive in this day. Usually he is more proactive than he had been, and he actually didn't get that much pressure he normally receives.

Fire, do you read Kyndy as town?
I still think the post Vedith made that caused me to unvote looked like frustrated town.

[Luna Fox]

I would like to know why you think he is scummy.

Is more of a PoE factor than scummy per se.
I'm currently townreading in order of strength:

pablito
You (Firebringer)
Lucky2u
OGML
Vedith
Davsto
Kyndy

Kyndy's the only player to have never done something i would deem "cool that looks townie" since the start of the game.
Davsto made a couple cool posts and that's about it.
Your reaction towards the end of D1P1 looked townie enough to me to raise you in the list.
And the others are mostly left overs from D1P1 that i still need to reanalize.

[Luna Fox]

I'm also gonna put another vote on Davsto for the time being

Vote: Davsto

While i go through D1P1, would also vote Vedith but i think he has enough pressure for now and out of his ISO there's only that post that looks like frustrated town.

I'm getting worried about the fact that OGML seems pretty happy to agree with my townhunt strategy and trying to form townblocs, because if he's scum that's the perfect position to ensure a win, he was also scumread by lane, and i know now that lane is town, I just need to check the merit of said scumread.

[Luna Fox]

Please dont talk to me about your meta, im gonna read you based on this game only.
If anything you knowing that you do that, just makes it more of a null tell than anything.

[Luna Fox]

Besides, it'd be hypocritical of me to disagree with the townhunt strategy.
I'm just worried that you might be scum slipping into the townbloc and a conf town (lane) had a scumread on you.

[Luna Fox]

Upon reread of D1P1 these are the changes to my reads

pablito

(Down to null town)
Firebringer
Lucky2u

OGML

(Up to strong town)
Vedith

Davsto

(down to scum)
Kyndy

v

OGML
Firebringer
Lucky2u
pablito
Vedith
Kyndy
Davsto

[Luna Fox]

So let's get down to business:
The whole exchange in Page 9 of lane vs OGML doesn't look like OGML is trying for a mislynch, but actually trying to read lane, to which he ends with "more lane votes pls" after making a decission.
pablito went down because of something im going to point out next.
Now let's look at Dave, the majority of Dave's ISO is with stuff unrelated to the actual game/scumhunting, let's look at the posts that are actually related to the game:
98 piggybacking on Lucky's read.
100 apparently he doesn't seem my playstyle as scummy, yet im null scum for it.
169 Do i really need to point out what's wrong with this reads list?
Let's look at the reasoning for his 3 scumreads:

Vedith: Oh Vedith, ugh. Like, the points are a balance between intentional misrepping or just a misunderstanding, so I feel that attempting to read them would result in my failure. Reading as null because I can't see him as having said anything beyond that discussion, so I can't really read. Gonna say a scumlean, until I see some more from him.

"He's null but i can't read him so i'll say scum"

lane: Dislike the parroting of the "vote everyone", a lot of nullreading. Scumlean.

"Dislikes parroting on my plan, too many nullreading" what?.

Firebringer: Really not a fan, playing quite oddly, at least a couple of his posts sound like he's trying too hard to sound Town. Scumlean.

I didn't get this impression, looks fake.

Davsto has done literally nothing this game, yet pablito:

Town
1. Luna
2. Lucky2u

3. Davsto

4. OGML
5. Firebringer
6. Vedith
7. kyndy
8. Lane
Scum

I don't get it.

[Luna Fox]

@Luna - Thoughts about Fire voting for 3 people already?

I'm not really sure what to think of that, tbh.
I disagree with his reads atm (probably except Vedith).
But I don't think he's scum, he tried to derail the lane wagon and lane flipped town.

[Luna Fox]

Btw, important to note, Pablito's reads list came before Davsto's.

[Luna Fox]

We had plenty of time

Explain what you mean by this tho.
Deadline didn't reset with the lynch, Isn't it better for it to have happened earlier so we had more time for the 2nd part with a confirmed alignment?

[Luna Fox]

As for why i wanted lane lynched, because i was convinced he's scum, he was scumreading OGML yet was talking to him as if he knew he was town.

[Luna Fox]

I'm still not sure why the lynch happening earlier than usual is a problem, if they wanted to say something they should've just said it, at least in the case of Lane, since he was around at the time.
And as for Davsto, it's not like he can't talk.

[Luna Fox]

@p-edit. Okay, yes you're right - we have a deadline for two lynches. I still think that two days wait could've been helpful. We have lost information on what I would've said or Davsto would've said while Lane at L-1 that is now lost. When someone is at L-1, it's not always about getting information from the person at L-1 during that moment - it's also about seeing how the rest of the bunch react to L-1. The urgency from L-1 to hammer is robbing information gaining. Both kyndy and OGML pushed for urgency in the hammering vote. Nonetheless, I now see why the hammer was pushed quicker than what I would've liked. Neither one mentioned that as a reason though, right?

I've been thinking about this.
And I see what you mean now.
My instinct normally is that if i think someone's scum I want them dead.
I didn't take into consideration what other people would've said in that timeframe.
I'm sorry.

[Luna Fox]

The votes on Kyndy now feel like its opportunistic scum.

Tell me why Kyndy's town?

[Luna Fox]

Anyways, I knew you voted me, but I'm actually kinda used to people voting me as a player cause I know my play seems quite scummy

What do you think of Fire's townread on you then?

[Luna Fox]

Will ppl ever tell me why kyndy town. I'm not seeing her as town, tho granted i'm not seeing her as scum either, and is mostly PoE.

[Luna Fox]

10/10 Quoting
Davsto

[Luna Fox]

My thing with firebringer is that he was attempting to derail the wagon from lane (although he failed at it), i don't see why scum wouldn't just see it go through while sitting in the back.

[Luna Fox]

My thing with Vedith is that he kept misrepresenting me, then he made a super frustrated townie post.

[Luna Fox]

Also, me passive?

I think he was quoting your assesment of Vedith, not saying that you are passive.

[Luna Fox]

I'm sorry, but I agree with Fire here.
It is one thing to think Fire is scum and the derail attempt doesn't make him town due to some reasons.
But saying he's scum for attempting to derail a mislynch feels reachy.

[Luna Fox]

His attempt to derail it felt genuine, and just because he couldn't derail it doesnt mean it wasn't a strong attempt, it's just that people didn't listen to him no matter how much he tried, i think scum would have been more happy sitting in the back and watch it unfold.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah I don't like how you're threatening everyone who jumps on your wagon, trying to persuade them to get off. Usually if you want someone off your wagon, you only start threatening because you know you can't do much else. Seems scummy so...

Vote: Lane

.....
I am ignored.

^
Example.
This felt like frustration to not being listened to.
Sure he could have probably yelled more and stuff, but ppl (me included) were too blindsided by lane's play at that point, it was my mistake for not noticing it and letting the lynch happen.

[Luna Fox]

Fire is town, why are you lynching him.

[Luna Fox]

Or is this another one of those gut reads like the one that got lane lynched?

[Luna Fox]

Like honestly what is the scum motivation in trying to halt a mislynch, Fire was properly analyzing the situation at which we failed, there is literally zero benefit for scum to stop a mislynch specially if it had actually succeeded.

[Luna Fox]

Although i do admit that i don't know why he overreacted to a single vote but that's not enough for me to think he's scum.

[Luna Fox]

You mean the thing about Lane?:

pablito very clearly stated why he did not place a vote on lane and Firebringer is just looking for any way he can find to undermine pabs

Ohhhh right, he was too lazy to do his own VC count before voting.
Seriously, who doesn't keep track of that?

This is the closest thing i could find for an answer if that's not the answer he's looking for then i don't know.
What i do know is that i literally don't see scum FB doing what he did when Lane was about to be hammered, that imo makes any other point moot, because a player doing something that's impossible to be coming from scum, makes them town above all else, imo.

[Luna Fox]

I'm literally ready to throw the game on that read. Or be lynched if you prove me wrong.

[Luna Fox]

I'm not second guessing myself with a townread after what happened with Lane.
I think we have more likely scum amongst Davsto and Kyndy

[Luna Fox]

Why we can't just all be nice to each other

[Luna Fox]

You dont even wanna imagine my ability at reading emotion.
Why else do you think i have such a strong read on you.

[Luna Fox]

Either way there's no real need ever to insult other people imo.

[Luna Fox]

I think if im wrong on one of my townreads, it's more likely OGML than pablito, although this is more or less part sheeping the dead townie, also i wouldn't really worry about me being wrong on one of my townreads until like LyLo or something.

[Luna Fox]

So for anyone wondering why i replaced out, a player in this game brought this (ongoing at the time) game reference elsewhere that affected my read of the slot in this game and i felt that continuing on would be cheating so i replaced out instead.