Micro 583: Kids With Guns (Game Over)

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Confirm mafia suicide bomber

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VOTE: BAG

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1. We're not lynching BAG this early. Calm yourselves. Looked at several of Aero's games and he seems to intelligent to just throw away. Obviously this goes both ways but, why? Naked votes hiding behind RVS excuses are lazy and sad..

VOTE: lovelygiant

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d1 ez

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For teh lulz, why are you only picking up on it now?

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I already answered you

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Sorry, no fun allowed

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Please show me the grave anti-town effects of my post

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You're the only one who seems to care, I think you should drop this meaningless and therefore anti-town line of questioning

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All 5/7 people agree

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Then we lynch the vig, duh

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But we had to lynch the vig because you wanted to shoot town, why are you making us lynch the vig scum?

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You sir, were the scum in that sentence

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I am townreading Persivul

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So you think I'm a vig and scum, despite that not being in the setup.

Let me rephrase

Why are you making us lynch the vig, scum?

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I never thought you were scum, I just called you scum

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BAG, suicide bomber or goon?

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lovelygiant, suicide bomber or goon?

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Guys guys guys

Bill and Gompers... BaG... bag...

scum

bag

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Not_Mafia, top three town reads and top two scum reads? Gun-to-head?

ScumBAG and lovelygiant scum, Persivul town. Those are my reads

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I'd rather me be lynched than BAG. Aero's got way more experience than I do, and, if town, would be more useful.

I'll even self-hammer if I'm feeling randy.

This is really bad. You know the alignment of exactly one person - yourself. But, this early in the game, you're so confident in your town read on BAG - despite your admitted lack of experience - that you would self-hammer rather than see BAG lynched. That doesn't add up. But, you and BAG being scum together is probably too obvious. This is more likely scum trying to buddy up to a town player that they perceive as being strong.

Join me Persivul

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Which slot?

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I'm voting lovelygiant

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So scumBAG instead of being a suicide bomber or a goon, do you want to be a bus driver?

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Not_Mafia, top three town reads and top two scum reads? Gun-to-head?

ScumBAG and lovelygiant scum, Persivul town. Those are my reads

Nevermind that last post.
care to explain them?

Persivul because he's being a sillyshoes, which is his town game, at least early game. lovelygiant's posts speak for themselves, and your username outs you, which as we all know is foolproof

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OK. No, I like my vote where it is. Your town game is bare votes with the occasional 3-word grunt post. You're way too chatty (relatively speaking) this game.

As mafia suicide bomber I can confirm your theory

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If BAG is town, or goon for that matter, although it obviously wasn't malicious, that should be modkillable as we could just all do that to force out the suicide bomber

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And as Mafia Suicide Bomber I know that's fake

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Please read the post directly above yours

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Please read that same post again

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Congratulations Persivul you just got suicide bombed

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We need to speed lynch

VOTE: BAG

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Still optimal to take out vig before they can get a shot off, this game has 2 confirmable roles in an 8p game, scum needs to take them out quickly.

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Please don't run the game in to the ground, everyone back on scumBAG please, or lonelygiant

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VOTE: lonelygiant

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At least there's no more PRs to out!

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¬.¬

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Does that mean BAG is not suicide bomber, because he said suicide bomb but lovely did not die??

Probably. The mod kinda sorta made an out so that we can't conclude that with 100% certainty, but it seems likely. Which raises the question: if he's town and legitimately saw what he thought was a breaking strategy, why didn't he encourage everyone to do it?

BAG = goon, NM = suicide bomber.

UNVOTE:

Why is the game called Kids with Guns when the child does not have a gun...?

Good point

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At least there's no more PRs to out!

Not sure everyone caught this. It's basically a scum claim.

Define scum claim

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I'm genuinely curious to hear this one, I haven't even got an inkling of what you're going to say

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At least there's no more PRs to out!

Not sure everyone caught this. It's basically a scum claim.

Define scum claim

Persivul pls, how is this a scum claim?

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Let's compromise on lovely

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and you didn't answer my question

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Oh you

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Fine with it.

VOTE: Maestro

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VOTE: MMAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEETTRRRROOOOOOOOOO

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L-1?

VOTE: Maestro

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I'm a doublevoter

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Yes Doublevoter Suicide Bomber like I said

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You caught us, I guess we have to lynch lovely

VOTE: lovely

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What you're saying here is that scum would definitely have quick hammered when Maestro was at L-1 or a total of 97 minutes

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Lovely is my preferred lynch

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As mafia suicide bomber, he was the easiest mislynch

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or, he was giving me no reason to townread him and he seemed like the best attainable lynch

you decide

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So now you think lovely is the easiest mislynch...maybe because xtox is fixated on him?

I'm the easiest mislynch

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As mafia suicide bomber, he was the easiest mislynch

And why didn't your partner hammer?

Lovely was already on the wagon

[Not_Mafia]

excessive trolling

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I confirmed my role at the beginning of the game, it must be true

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Whoah wait, why am I being suspected?

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I would encourage people to read Persivul's posts

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That reminds me, you never explained how I scumclaimed, like, I can't even figure out where you're going with that one

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Actually VOTE: Nino I just remembered they were in the game and read their iso

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Nino, suicide bomber or goon?

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Yes the famous desperate move of creating an entirely new wagon

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Oh

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You tell me

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What do you think of Persivul's arguments in general?

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Let's lynch Nino

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We could lynch Nino

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All of this because I said "confirm mafia suicide bomber"

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Gladly

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Let's just say hypothetically in a parallel world I'm town, who is scum?

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Dude, he just wants to see what you'd say so he can then push the people you find scummiest.

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Don't like lovely and Nino painting my Nino vote as something I thought would gain traction, there's no reasonable expectation a wagon on someone who is v/la will take off

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That wasn't the point of my post at all. Lovely called my Nino vote "pure desperation" and Nino called it opportunistic, if I was being desperate and opportunistic and just wanted to get a wagon that wasn't me, there's no way I'd think Nino would be the best vote

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It's just a game Nino, exams come first

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I know but I don't think I should replace unless I absolutely know I can't play this game, because of the amount of stress it will cause a replacement to reread 20+ pages. It will be a different thing if it was early Day 1 so I don't want to put too much problems on them.

Not_Mafia, the fact is not whether you NOW realize there is no traction on voting me,

but the fact that you clearly THOUGHT back then that there will be traction,

which is not uncommon as far as I know for scum. Voting for someone relatively inactive means that you won't further antagonize someone who's already active and who might push you further, while at the same time hopefully putting through with the "inactive person is scum trying to hide" mindset. I really don't like that.

So a quick check shows that N_M is at L-1. The fact that he hasn't exploded yet means that he's probably the goon? (If he immediately explodes after this post I am going to get really annoyed)

When was that made clear exactly? And a) There's a difference between v/la and lurking b) I never pushed a lurker angle on you c) Why would I go for the most inoffensive vote I could to save myself?

That wasn't the point of my post at all. Lovely called my Nino vote "pure desperation" and Nino called it opportunistic, if I was being desperate and opportunistic and just wanted to get a wagon that wasn't me, there's no way I'd think Nino would be the best vote

Okay, I definitely agree with this, but:

Don't like lovely and Nino painting my Nino vote as something I thought would gain traction, there's no reasonable expectation a wagon on someone who is v/la will take off

...can you see how I would see this as you saying "I don't get why people are upset that my vote was actually trying to be productive - I wasn't expecting it to be useful or do anything" and can you see how that's a shitty way to think about a vote?

I guess I could see how it read that way from an outside perspective