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Post #30 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:51 pm
Postby Persivul »
In post 15, Fire Starter wrote:Same question to persivul. You gave away a two shot governor? That is so good though.
It's fantastic as scum. It's meh as town. I'd like to think that as a participating member of town, we're not going to get to a point where I would want to use it anyway.
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Post #157 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:22 am
Postby Persivul »
I've read the thread but haven't ISO'd. Here's where I am:
Lane and Ranger look town. in my experience they each prefer playing town to scum, their discards are consistent with that, nothing in their play has pinged me, and I largely agree with Ranger's reads.
Blue - I suppose as a Hated we have to lynch him today, but we're holding off to continue to get reads - is that correct?
FS - lean town - playing well and discard supports it, although not nearly as much as he seems to think.
Lowell, Ari - null, haven't done much.
Sarasa, Ircher - scummy, but really my eyes were glazing over as I read their posts.
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Post #254 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:15 am
Postby Persivul »
What are the chances this is lylo? Since there was only one scum kill it's unlikely that there's two scum factions. The King role indicates that Blue is a kingmaker, and unless he was strongly town reading Ari (we need to check that), he's probably WW.
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Post #259 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:47 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 257, Fire Starter wrote:If he does that them we're fine, but it also says an action that harms the faction. Modkilled would be better for sure though. I panicked.
I didn't see the harms the faction language. Typically only the modkilled person is affected, not their faction. Guess we'll see.
See, I can't really talk to you about lylo and stuff because I think you're scum. In which case there ARE two factions. Otherwise no one would have kinged Aristophanes. Blue was scum reading him hard, so to me that doesnt make sense unless Aristophanes was going to be biased hard.
I voted the most scum-read person and vigged the next most scum-read person. I could have claimed that I vigged Ari and Sarasa was the collateral damage, but I'm being honest about it. OTOH you have Blue, who conveniently claimed Hated.
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Post #263 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:05 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 140, BlueTrin wrote:{Fire Starter, Ranger}
{}
{Aristophanes, SarasaKat, Persivul, }
{lane0168, Lowell}
{Ircher}
Notes:
Ari has not posted much
I believe that Ranger and FS genuinely tried to find whether I am scum.
SarasaKat, you saty that Ranger changed his opinion about me: my opinion is that town will usually change their opinion because we do not know who is scum, therefore we will engage in an investigation process to determine who is scum. This is what FS and Ranger have been doing.
Also this is why I didn't like lane post: instead of investigating whether I am just scum, he just asked if everybody was ok to lynch me, which is nearly the same thing but with a different tone.
Persivul gave a slight defense on Lane, can be genuine or not but should be kept for later.
I don't like Ircher reaction as well: it is way too early for a reaction like his
If anyone feels like I shall be lynched as it looks like there would be more scum than town, tell me, I will even hammer myself if needed
Lowell wants to finish the day quickly as well: I am a bit surprised, in the other games, people want to use as much time as they can every day, is this because you are all much more experienced ?
This is the post I didn't like too much, even if he is flailing, why shouldn't use the time to make Ari talk for example ? Also Lowell, your ISO is a bit empty for now.
In post 125, Lowell wrote:hadn't even read just above my post. Eh, this is awful flailing from ircher. textbook "ugh I'm mad you're voting me for no reason without letting me explain it's so unfair i'm taking my ball and going home."
It's over. Let's end it for this guy. worry about sara or whoever tomorrow.
Ari, let's hear more from you now, Ircher consider that my vote is on you for now. VOTE: Aristophanes
In post 179, BlueTrin wrote:FS, Ranger, should I state my intent to hammer ?
I have a vote on Ari only to get him to speak at the moment.
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Post #270 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:31 am
Postby Persivul »
Good catch. Is there any way Ari could have been made bloodhound D1 or N1 without having the card? I don't think so. I double checked my roles PM and I definitely got bloodhound.
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Post #295 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:21 am
Postby Persivul »
Just going by the numbers, there's more mafia cards than vig cards. But, that's pretty simplistic analysis, and his VT theory didn't pan out either. I'm a two-shot town vig and I killed Sarasa last night. My vote and kill were for two of the biggest scum reads yesterday.
Now that we know the loved/hated don't apply in lylo:
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Post #298 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:26 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 291, BlueTrin wrote:Can there be Mafia AND werewolves at the same time ?
Yes.
Is this why we have two factional kills at night ?
No. I'm a vig and I shot sarasa. That doesn't rule out two factions (a kill could have been stopped by RB, doc etc), but we've accounted for both kills last night.
Still at work but I am surprised that nobody is wondering more about the number of kills we will have tonight ?
Probably two as I have another shot and an itchy trigger finger.
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Post #331 (isolation #36) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:22 pm
Postby Persivul »
Nope, I was just sheeping Ranger because I suck at reads, and particularly D1. When I scum hunt hard D1 I usually just get in the way of people who are better at it than me.
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Post #341 (isolation #37) » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:28 pm
Postby Persivul »
In post 340, Ranger wrote:If Persivul did not point this out, he is scum.
First, you greatly overestimate my memory.
Second, IIRC he didn't get a survivor card and choose survivor with gladiator. He had a lyncher card, but now that his target was NK'd he converted to survivor. For a good player lyncher/gladiator is a great combo. I asked Blue what his night action was, thinking it should have been gladiating his target. He said he thought of that but backed off. I actually believe his claims at this point.
Like you I'm also finding FS to be townie. His suspicion of me feels actual, not forced. That leaves me in the unfortunate position of PoEing to you and Lane. But, Lane doesn't seem like the type to go to the length of making up the underdog thing.
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Post #342 (isolation #38) » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:46 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 329, Fire Starter wrote:He admits to a killing role. The odds of that role being town compared to scum is around 1 in 20. Then why did he kill SarasaKat when we all scumread her? Because he was trying to eliminate the other factions if any.
And why wouldn't I simply let the most lynchable player live to be lynched today?
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Post #345 (isolation #39) » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:37 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 343, lane0168 wrote:Id like to vote BlueTrin too though. Throw 2 votes and see if we're in Lylo.
Yeah, I was thinking about that too. Since he's claiming survivor status now anyway there's no harm if he's lynched, and scum frequently cut deals with survivors in end game, so survivors are dangerous to town. So:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: BlueTrin
UNVOTE:
If we're not in mylo/lylo, he was just lynched and phase is over. If he isn't lynched, then we know we're in mylo or lylo.
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Post #350 (isolation #42) » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:45 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 347, lane0168 wrote:I was gonna say let's put 3 votes on ranger and check that for a lie, but this works, ranger wouldn't get lynched today if loved. Couldn't convince fs to vote
I have a vig shot left. Hopefully there's not an RB. But if she's scum I'd think she was a kingmaker aligned with Ari.
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Post #351 (isolation #43) » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:47 am
Postby Persivul »
In post 347, lane0168 wrote:I was gonna say let's put 3 votes on ranger and check that for a lie, but this works, ranger wouldn't get lynched today if loved. Couldn't convince fs to vote
Although really, as she claimed loved, we can put two votes on her. Then, FS has no town reason not to vote and unvote as I just did to test the claim.
In post 338, Ranger wrote:I kinda actually think Persivul is scum of some kind that shot as if town, and lane is also scum of some kind, but that they are not tied together as the same alignment.
If they were, then BlueTrin would have been lynched already and we would have lost.
See ranger isn't thinking about hardly anything,
Yeah, we both respect her town play. Saying we're scum of different alignments, but neither of us NK'd her last night, is pretty far-fetched.