Micro 601: Traitors amongst us [game over]

[Dwlee99]

so like the mafia know who the mafia are, but are still aligned with the traitors but don't know who the traitors are and the town don't know who each other are?

[Dwlee99]

I'm not part of the clique, feelsbadman

[Dwlee99]

By clique I mean the main mafia. I'm actually not town. Kinda reminds me of when I 'slipped' in game shop mafia and got lynched partyially for it

[Dwlee99]

partially*

[Dwlee99]

But I'm a traitor. what.

[Dwlee99]

the neo would get an inno on me.

[Dwlee99]

like the neo would receive non-vanilla which = mafia which = inno

[Dwlee99]

if the neo targeted me they would get not vanilla town because I'm a traitor lol

[Dwlee99]

I don't understand how you could have interpreted my post in any other way.
pedit no you got it right that time

[Dwlee99]

so like the mafia know who the mafia are, but are still aligned with the traitors but don't know who the traitors are and the town don't know who each other are?

so mafia know mafia
but win with traitors
but mafia dont know who traitors are
and town doesnt know who each other are

[Dwlee99]

this game is actually really mafia sided since town have no way to kill

[Dwlee99]

the mafia neo though will get a not vanilla on the town neo which means a not vanilla isnt actually an inno

[Dwlee99]

that is a thing

[Dwlee99]

i have to read the role pms lol

[Dwlee99]

what vengeful kill? it isn't in the pms

[Dwlee99]

Aside from the Neapolitan ability, any player who is lynched will have the option to kill another player.
how did I miss that

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nolynch

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

townclaim

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

townclaim

Lol how?

Because I'm a traitor, only town vote for traitors.

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

lol rc knows something :3

[Dwlee99]

boopityboop

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nolynch
whynot

[Dwlee99]

oh boi the hammer

[Dwlee99]

lol rc

[Dwlee99]

is there a way you could show us the spreadsheet?

[Dwlee99]

but the town could shoot our neo and then geegeez

[Dwlee99]

i hope you realize that we lose if all of the main mafia die and that everyone can vengekill when they get lynched.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nolynch
Why you do this rc

[Dwlee99]

oh gawd I didn't see that O___O
UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

oh gawd I didn't see that O___O
UNVOTE:

What are you talking about and what are you doing

He won most cunning manipulator.

And I'm on cough drops rn

[Dwlee99]

oh gawd I didn't see that O___O
UNVOTE:

What are you talking about and what are you doing

He won most cunning manipulator.

And I'm on cough drops rn

Lol Dwlee, you high on cough medicine?

tbh blackstar is probz

town

mafia

[Dwlee99]

oh gawd I didn't see that O___O
UNVOTE:

What are you talking about and what are you doing

He won most cunning manipulator.

And I'm on cough drops rn

Lol Dwlee, you high on cough medicine?

Considering I've had at least like 50 cough drops the past few days, yes. On saturday I was out for around 8 hours and had about 19 cough drops in that time, I think I had at least 10 or 12 today at school. Apparently people can smell my cherry cough drops as well as I've had multiple people ask me if it smells like cough drops but apparently it isn't "eww it smells like cough drops" it is "I like the smell of those cough drops"
pedit be patient postie
pedit2 i mean I don't think anything in the game is really alignment indicative because the "scum" (town) don't even have any idea who their partners are but he's either caught for the wrong reason or he is mafia.
pedit3 LOL

[Dwlee99]

srsly though can you get high on cough drops? I was really strange at school today and then when I got home and I was skyping with gendaberry I was weird too soooooo

[Dwlee99]

i don't think rc could successfully work at a penny factory

[Dwlee99]

it says once every two hours but I pop one in the moment one is done because otherwise I start coughing like crazy and everyone says "Stop dying <<my name>>, I don't want to have to deal with your dead body's smell"

Back on topic though nah man. I'm p obv scum here and explain how on practice it is different.

pedit ari why

[Dwlee99]

it says once every two hours but I pop one in the moment one is done because otherwise I start coughing like crazy and everyone says "Stop dying <<my name>>, I don't want to have to deal with your dead body's smell"

Back on topic though nah man. I'm p obv scum here and explain how on practice it is different.

pedit ari why

Wait...your name isn't Dwlee?
Also, I pronounce it "Doo-Lee" in my head. Am I right in that?

In theory, there is no difference b/w town and traitor. In practice, the differing goals lead to differing approaches to the game, differing motivations, and different tonality.
These can all be picked up on by a good townhunter/scumhunter.

dwee - lee
and i guess but I can't pick up on that so lulz

[Dwlee99]

he seems genuinely frusturated rc. jeez aren't you reading

[Dwlee99]

pedit2 i mean I don't think anything in the game is really alignment indicative because the "scum" (town) don't even have any idea who their partners are but he's either caught for the wrong reason or he is mafia.

jeez aren't you reading

[Dwlee99]

he's either

caught for the wrong reason

or he is mafia.

jeez

aren't you reading

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[Dwlee99]

he's either

caught for the wrong reason

or he is mafia.

jeez

aren't you reading

[/quote]

[Dwlee99]

he's either

caught for the wrong reason

or he is mafia.

jeez

aren't you reading

did i fix it yet

[Dwlee99]

today at school someone took the giant bag of cough drops I had and I just mumbled "I neeedddd ittttt"

[Dwlee99]

idk if I'm addicted but i dont feel very well haha

[Dwlee99]

i have one in my mouth rn it's not withdrawal lol

[Dwlee99]

lol this game

[Dwlee99]

welp he's rc
VOTE: no lynch

pedit scum reading is a good thing in this game. lol

[Dwlee99]

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RadiantCowbells [

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BlackStar

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Maestro

BlackStar [

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RadiantCowbells

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Aristophanes

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chilledtea

No lynch [

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Not_Mafia

Abstaining [2]

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Dwlee99

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Postie

There are 8 active players.
Absolute majority is

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Majority has

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Previous vote count
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Spoiler: Current player list

[1]

Maestro

[2]

Postie

[3] Creature † -

mafia

- traitor - no lynch killed night 1

[4]

RadiantCowbells

[5]

chilledtea

[6]

BlackStar

[7]

Dwlee99

[8]

Not_Mafia

[9]

Aristophanes

Deadline is

24-04-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-04-24 00:00:00))

8 players, 3 town. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
3 - 5. No lynch, 3-4. semi-mylo..
uhuhhhh

[Dwlee99]

I was thinking along those lines on day 1 itself. That maybe we should lynch scum and get them to take out town. I am not sure why you depended on town self-destructing when this idea seems better.

^

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee is Town

The game is 3-5. If RC is scum and he vengekills me it is 3 town 3 mafia. Then we lose

[Dwlee99]

uhm can you? In a 3 v 3 the town can no lynch forever.

[Dwlee99]

i mean it's not over completely but we're putting the only hope to win in the hands of the town. so lol

[Dwlee99]

If I am going to be mislynch bait I am willing to eat rope to vengekill chilled tea.

[Dwlee99]

Yo
VOTE: dwlee

[Dwlee99]

We can't let the town have two vengekills or risk losing both main mafia.

[Dwlee99]

I'm not being lynched while people are still scumreading Dwlee.

then lynch me

[Dwlee99]

I mean a check would be nice but a not VT doesn't clear him.
I really can't see Dwlee being scum unless he's main faction scum.

lolololol
you have to lynch me

[Dwlee99]

like i am going to get mislynched / misvigged anyway so just lynch me.

[Dwlee99]

I DIDNT SLIP. FUCK. I WILL EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN SINCE NO ONE UNDERSTANDS

[Dwlee99]

so like the mafia know who the mafia are, but are still aligned with the traitors but don't know who the traitors are and the town don't know who each other are?

The mafia know who the mafia are?
The mafia are still aligned with traitors?
The mafia don't know who the traitors are?
Town don't know who each other are?

I refuse to be lynched for "slipping" WHEN I AM FUCKING TRAITOR. THIS IS JUST LIKE NY 192 MQ#ROWHTTH

[Dwlee99]

in ny 192 I got lynched for a "slip" when I was town. like ffs. You were IN THAT GAME rc.

[Dwlee99]

i should have been lynched since rc is p obviously scum.

[Dwlee99]

rc you make me mad.

[Dwlee99]

is that a town claim? o-o

[Dwlee99]

I make myself mad sometimes.

Uninformed minority is not good for someone like me.

cause the uninformed minority is the town.

Vengekill the confirmed town dumb butt.
pedit good

[Dwlee99]

I meant games with that setup you silly townlord.

I need to actually go through with my plan of actually quoting all the times someone calls me scum (or in this case town) (and especially the ones where they say obvscum) when I'm town (or in this case scum)

[Dwlee99]

rc why u do dis

[Dwlee99]

lmao I knew that post was a town claim. hahahahsh
qewygh
hahaha

[Dwlee99]

once we kill chilled with a vengeful we are able to lynch whoever we think is town because I asked and if the last town gets lynched their vengekill cannot happen because mafia already wins.

[Dwlee99]

so p much the plan is vengekill chilled today, and then lynch / venge for the town neo.

[Dwlee99]

Ari who do you have a not town result on?

[Dwlee99]

you got a town result what is your not town result?

[Dwlee99]

[1] Maestro
[5] chilledtea - Confirmed Town
[6] BlackStar
[7] Dwlee99
[8] Not_Mafia
[9] Aristophanes - Confirmed Main Faction Mafia
I need to know the not town result and we can contemplate the possibility of them being the neo. We lynch a traitor and then they venge chilledtea. In my example maestro is a traitor who vengekills chilledtea.

[6] BlackStar
[7] Dwlee99
[8] Not_Mafia
[9] Aristophanes
Then we lynch blackstar who vengekills not_mafia and we win. So fmpov we win by lynching a traitor today.

[Dwlee99]

oh yea true -facepalm-

[Dwlee99]

i feel p stupid rn :I

[Dwlee99]

[1] Maestro
[6] BlackStar
[7] Dwlee99
[8] Not_Mafia

the options for a lynch. I think maestro or myself are the right choices.

[Dwlee99]

dont even bring up that game lol

[Dwlee99]

so who do you want to lynch ari? I want to lynch maestro cause me living into lylo is an autowin fmpov

[Dwlee99]

Maestro why are you so sure of blackstar scum?

[Dwlee99]

in his lylo situation he literally said to lynch me and have me vengekill not mafia, so likeee

[Dwlee99]

you can't argue that that is alignment indicative. lol

correlation does not imply causation

[Dwlee99]

One time I posted in bold as town, therefore anyone who posts in bold is town. Do you see what I'm getting at here?

[Dwlee99]

So dwlee, are you saying that yore not alright with being lynched?

i want to go to lylo where through one of the people that isn't me or ari can be lynched and kill the other person that isn't ari or myself and win.

[Dwlee99]

lol

[Dwlee99]

unless that was faked (which honestly would be impressive) I think not mafia has to be the town neo. Okay actually so I'd rather lynch myself or blackstar now and kill chilledtea and then lynch maestro / not mafia and have them venge the other one.

[Dwlee99]

tbh i was hoping that someone would put me at l-1 so I could be like "ha I could hammer and win if I was town now I'm confirmed scum"

[Dwlee99]

the thing that makes me doubt maestro's scumminess is their refusal to talk to me and pretty much deciding I have to be the town neo.

[Dwlee99]

i think i may have a trump card

[Dwlee99]

is that a town claim? o-o

^ idk if this a trump card but this is p significant imo

pedit same

[Dwlee99]

stahp

[Dwlee99]

You refused to have any discussion with me, you just blew off the conversation. That reads to me as "you are town I dont need to talk to you"

[Dwlee99]

=_=

[Dwlee99]

I think the last town is notmafia. Just look at his name.

[Dwlee99]

no one else is paranoid of maestro?

[Dwlee99]

especially after the rc town flip

[Dwlee99]

No I am saying rc seemed really scummy but flipped town so like maestro could be similar.

[Dwlee99]

to me

[Dwlee99]

Well you were obviously wrong. Why would RCTown link to me being Town AT ALL when I was the main one who called him out?

I was saying I (and most people iirc) was scum reading rc pretty heavily and they flipped town. I'm saying the same could be happening w/ you.

[Dwlee99]

Also now the confirmed town read is voting you, so that must be "insanely telling"

[Dwlee99]

when you're not even town.

[Dwlee99]

like I am not flipping town. The funniest part is that the confirmed town thinks I'm town too.

[Dwlee99]

Lol I was joking

what?

[Dwlee99]

Lol I was joking

what?

I've been suspicious of you like the entire time. Why wouldn't I want to get rid of you first?

because I'm a traitor and killing me wins the game for the town? ????
@Ari he better be.

[Dwlee99]

but like it's statistically better to get rid of chilledtea first.

Get rid of confirmed town, then because you're wrong about me I get to vengekill a person. Vengekill me and because you're wrong we lose.

[Dwlee99]

just kill the confirmed town like a reasonable person
mm k?

[Dwlee99]

Lol I was joking

what?

I've been suspicious of you like the entire time. Why wouldn't I want to get rid of you first?

also not sure if this is a town claim trying to get me vengekilled for the win

[Dwlee99]

I vote skip

[Dwlee99]

I guess that confirms maestro as scum, though, which is a relief.

[Dwlee99]

so fmpov lynch black / nm and thdy vengekill the other = mafia win but since I am universally town read for literally 0 reason I will probz have to decide which one to vengekill :I

[Dwlee99]

The entire town slip thing is bs because people cant properly read.

[Dwlee99]

Ari, why are you scum reading nm?

[Dwlee99]

The entire town slip thing is bs because people cant properly read.

People can't read your posts and make wild claims based on their misinterpretation?
Never seen that before

God I hate scum casing myself but guess what the main person pushing the "slip" flipped? Town

[Dwlee99]

yo blackstar you are going to.venge nm right?

[Dwlee99]

if we agree on vengekilling nm I will hammer,

[Dwlee99]

based on blackstar's selfvote Nm is the last scum unless blackstar is ballsy ~af~

[Dwlee99]

Town*

[Dwlee99]

brb gonna go find the game I got lynched for a "slip"

[Dwlee99]

Subject: NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

If I was scum I wouldnt have lynched dave like that, I would be off the wagon or have already expressed ssuspicion of them to hop on.
Not a scum tell
How is it scummy to sheep..? Antitown sure I will give you that but why would I sheep onto my scjum partber? Not a scumtell
His read had him oppurtinisticly jump on me (wickedjestr even points it out) and then dave begins to drift me into town to town to agree with the growing consensus.
Youve never been wrong before? *coughcough pk did this too*
Because all of the evidence is against deathnote. He isnt even denying that he is sk he is just saying I wasnt the one to catch him.

1. "I wouldn't do x as scum I would do you as scum and therefore I am not scum" I hope you have something better than that.
2. I think that one of my points was that you weren't actually sheeping. Just jumping on for town cred.

The most damming evidence against you is that you gave town points to wicked for being on scum, BEFORE he had flipped scum. Please give me the town perspective behind that.

[Dwlee99]

Tralalala

Dwlee if I were serious I'd be voting you

i have spent like a minute trying to come up with a way to put the idea that if you were a traitor you'd be losing by doing that but i can't do it cause i'm bad at comebacks.

[Dwlee99]

i know i post a lot but jeez is my iso really that long?

[Dwlee99]

120 is literally nothing LOL
It's day 4 and I only have 120 (now 121) posts. That might as well be day one lol

[Dwlee99]

Well yea I post whenever I can

[Dwlee99]

ari finish reading isos so you can see howobviously scum I am and we can end this game by lynching black/nm and them vengekilling the other if the lynched isnt town.

[Dwlee99]

Doing this now.

Question while I do, for everyone.
If you were lynched, who would you Venge?

nm

[Dwlee99]

i can't be back until like 9:30 pm est ish
so yea
bai

[Dwlee99]

When not mafia postures for a blackstar lynch all day "knowing" theyre town and now in a final act of desperation wants me to get vengekilled. uhm no
Get venge'd, town.

[Dwlee99]

another townclaim, just like radiantcowbells. :3

[Dwlee99]

another townclaim, just like radiantcowbells. :3

I actually thought you had a good point with the RC townclaim!

i got so confused when they said it wasnt..

[Dwlee99]

Great shot Blackstar, and awesome work traitoring it up, Dwlee!

yea I tried to just obvscum the last two days really hard. haha to all the people that said I had to be town for that question.

[Dwlee99]

The "townslip" simply didn't say what you were saying it did

yes it did. I was asking about the mafia winning with the traitors and if they knew each other as well as if the town knew each other. Go read it again.

[Dwlee99]

Great shot Blackstar, and awesome work traitoring it up, Dwlee!

yea I tried to just obvscum the last two days really hard. haha to all the people that said I had to be town for that question.

You played objectively badly the first couple of Days. I'm glad he shot right in the end, but I would've shot you almost for-sure.

i dont think so *shrug*