Micro 597: TTH's Normal Micro (Game Over)

[Fire Assassin]

Hello all!

I haven't read any of the game yet, but I know we are in day 1, so a few questions right now.
Who should I ISO?
What are everyones reads right now?
What are you think the most important pages to look at?

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jmo claimed an impossible role

Such as? I went through ISO and didn't see a claim.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

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lol.

NM and your slot are my two major townreads here.

Want to go into that at all?

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VOTE: Creature

I am, but I want to flip Creature

Last minute speed wagon on jmo anyone?

VOTE: jmo

These all happened within a hour, want to go into why you want to lynch jmo over creature when you said a previous hour ago you wanted to flip Creature?

I guess I should ISO Creature since leading wagon too.

Are you scumreading both?

Pedit I am not using any meta here, you actually think he is town based on actual play here?

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If you were scum RadiantCowbells, who do you think would be easiest to lynch?
Lets assume I am your partner for this btw.

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Well then you're gonna struggle

Probably, but I think it is for my own improvement.
I don't know any of you. <3

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Awwww RC

Is this saying that you're in fact scum?

No 575 was the nicest thing you've ever said about me

That is actually very sad in a way.

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Not Mafia I really do like that avatar, I wish I had a cool animated gif of an assassin. Would be awesome.
Actually, I may stop reading this game to go search for one now...

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This game hasn't moved since last time I logged in.....
That was nearly 24 hours ago guys.

I will have to assassinate some of you to wake you!

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Lets get some activity going.
VOTE: Titus

Not sold on Not Mafia being town, but don't think he should be lynched today at least.

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We have 2 people well past prod range. Can we get an extension and prods?

There aren't any pending replacements so the deadline is what it is.

boooo

Give us just like 24 more hours plox.

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What if I replace out and then back in to my own slot? Can we have an extension then?

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I am odd. Deal with it.

Where are your reads atm?

Odd person, what are your reads at the moment?
Also you don't seem odd. So you better stop lying to me!

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I am odd. Deal with it.

Where are your reads atm?

Odd person, what are your reads at the moment?
Also you don't seem odd. So you better stop lying to me!

RC town, Creature and RTF slot (which I think is you) are still scummy to me

Not much has changed.

Wrong slot. Shows you aren't paying any attention to this game.
I am happy with my vote.

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Guys what this is a disgusting lurkerfest and I have no new content to address.

How about Titus not even bothering to check which slot I am occupying?

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Shouldn't Creature be getting a prod?
I have them as null at the moment and I don't think they have posted once since I replaced in.

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Guys what this is a disgusting lurkerfest and I have no new content to address.

How about Titus not even bothering to check which slot I am occupying?

It's my anniversary. I'm not spending much time here when I think I caught scum.

Ohh congratulations!
I still would like your input, but you can do that tomorrow maybe.

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Shouldn't Creature be getting a prod?
I have them as null at the moment and I don't think they have posted once since I replaced in.

Out from all my posts, you read me as null?

I didn't see much content in your ISO

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jmo16mla has been prodded.
Seeking a replacement for KainTepes.

~sigh~

Sorry that this game isn't active telltale heart <3

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Why are you still on a vanity wagon?

A vanity wagon?

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Ugh this day is just awful.
Someone just end it:
VOTE: Creature

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I am here!
That was an....odd kill.

Hmmmm

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Ok, RC why were we not shot?

It's either you or Phantom, and I am leaning Phantom but hmmm

Why Phantom or RC?

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All neighbours claim now please.

Radiant why you fishing for neighbors?

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Why should he?

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Okay you two need to cut it out.
Its not helping, can either of you make cases on the other?

PhantomCobalt is a pretty empty slot, though I am still baffled by that night kill.

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It's pretty obvious that it was targeted because he was a neighbour.

Hence me trying to out the fucking neighbourhood.

How do you even know there is a neighborhood? Doesn't neighborizor normally only happen after night? And why kill a neighborizor anyways? Its not a specifically powerful role.

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neighbour.

not neighbourizer.

stop dumbtelling.

Please no insults.

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I am not dumbtelling.

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aka, I'm suspicious that you're scum.

I feel the same about you.

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1) I didn't know there was a difference. Note taken, prefer to read full role card on flips, but w/e.
2) I don't see that being strongly relevant to hunt for a neighbor.

I was not in a neighborhood chat, but I kinda think you were now. But that is partially paranoia talking.

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See that post looks like you are trying to frame me and Not Mafia.

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Yeah.....VOTE: RadiantCowbells

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VOTE: Fire Assassin

I'm happy omgusing here.

I gave us Creature, I'm not going to be lynched to appease your insecurity.

Insecurity?

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Here I thought you were trying to take a personal jab.
Well done, on backing out of that.

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I don't know. Odd phrasing considering you could have said "uncertainty of my alignment"
But I will ignore it, I don't want this to become a insulting bash.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... y#p7699635

So you copy and pasted a quote from a previous game?

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You could interpret it as that.
Or you could simply see it as me responding in the same manner?
Note the fact that I responded immediately after your post. Did I have time to search for quotes that fit the situation?

I have no idea, you seemed to have pulled that up pretty fast. Time stamps show 7 minutes in between responses, meaning you could have went to search in between instead of already having pre made, but you also post in other games.

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Why don't you look at Creature's posts and see if he's my scumbuddy instead of trying to sort me from reading me (which won't help because I can make my associatives as clean as they need to be)

You are just unsortable, aren't you?

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RadiantCowbells

Search your posts

Insecurity

Are you scumhunting me or confbiasing yourself?

Meh, I don't know. Hard to trust you, especially with your actions this day. I don't consider you anymore pro town for lynching Creature.

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I have a question for you to think about.

What would I have done this game to have you townread me? I'm curious.

Nothing.

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Everything you have done I see as likely from scum. The Day 2 stuff especially stuck out. Only thing was calling Not Mafia town, which given everything he has done I thought was odd. Maybe that was to gain his vote though, so meh.

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And it's not like I'm a one trick pony only plays scum well player. People are asking questions about me not dying for a reason.

So what am I supposed to do in this situation, do you think Fire Assassin?

FTFY

And I have never called you a one trick pony or player. I don't think anyone but you is asking questions on why you are alive.

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I'm not implying you did.
My point is that town!me staying alive is incredibly beneficial for town.
But I can't argue with you about it because you've already decided there's nothing I can do to earn a townread.

If I'm that much of a problem don't you think it's better to go in the OTHER direction and just write off scum!RC games as a loss and have a huge advantage the other 7/9 of the time?

This sounds like you are asking me to trust tell you in games, which is against the rules.

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It's not trust telling to not push on someone that you know you're going to FoS no matter what.

You are saying I should assume you are always town, and never lynch you essentially.
Chalk up every lose as just a part of doing business to scum!RC, and win a majority of games because you will be town in a good number of them. So I am still ahead of it in the end.

Do you not see a problem with any of this suggestion?

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If you are scum can you promise to kill me?
VOTE: PhantomCobalt

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Lots of things aren't making sense to me right now.
Having a hard time grasping either Radiant or Titus being scum.

Really think its ZZZX

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I am so incredibly relieved that you're townreading me here.

Knowing you, I bet you would have actually killed me as scum and gotten away with it. So yeah.

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This game is insanely inactive.
VOTE: ZZZX

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Also I am not claiming, because reasons.

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Going to be upset if scum win this through lurking.

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Still waiting.

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Prod dodges and all.
I really think you all look over ZZX ISO tell me why you think he is town/scum.
Cause of all the people remaining, he seems most likely person to me.

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Can 1 player, play a whole game of mafia, by themselves?
We will soon find out.

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Random Person: Fire Assassin, you are obviously wrong its obviously RadiantCowbells
Me: Yes, but they could have easily killed me and likely ride a "I AM BEING FRAMED" to end.
Random Person: What about Titus, she could be scum?
Me: Why not kill RadiantCowbells, the only one hard pushing them?
Random Person: Why not Dominator?
Me: Meh, just doesn't seem right. Especially with the neighborhood things.

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Hey, wow... no content while I'm on VLA

I wonder why...

I'd say scum buddies interaction yadda yadda yadda but a micro likely only has one scum in it.

I am starting to think maybe a massclaim is required to get this started via popcorn, as much as I know claiming will likely just result in me dying...

Except for my posts, but I guess thats not content.
I already stated I am not claiming.
This isn't MYLO or LYLO.

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I guess I am just going to get ignored over here.

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welp I am assassin, sheep me.

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Meh, Day 1 is probably has the most important one.
Everything else isn't much to read.

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10 Pages in,

Titus/Pisskop TOWN

TheDominator37/Kain NULL

RadiantCowbells - Slight scum lean
Fire Assassin/Smeagol -- SCUM

Convenient slot I am scumreading scumreads me.

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Sorry you don't even exist in this game yet for me so

So you didn't read the last 5 pages?

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VLA this weekend sorry guys I know this game is dead already but under the weather.

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VOTE: Dominator

I'll trust in Titus to sort out her shit if it comes to it.

And why can't you vote ZZZX slot?

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Ugh, I am going back to sleep. Doms slot is the most null slot that you can get. Nothing much there to read. I really think its LynchMeSideways. Though finding the no vote also curious.

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LynchMeSideways, can I ask why you aren't voting anyone currently? Especially if you scum read me...
This isn't LYLO. So why no vote?

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Looks like we have to policy him or lynch the person actually looks like scum LynchMeSideways.

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True but you are not Dom

I'd also be contempt with a fire lynch.

Do you mean content?
You aren't really even playing.

You called one player town, good start. You are willing to lynch everyone else.
Thats not helpful.

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Except ZZZX funnily enough.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

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I am just losing my townreadson everyone because people expect me to do all the lifting.

Everyone is complying to site meta which is do jack shit.

This isn't really fair Titus.
Me and RC are fairly active in this. When you have only 2 active players though, you can't do much. I know your circumstances haven't allowed you to be active, but how can 2 players just solve the game without the other ones posting? It just kills the game activity wise.

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VOTE: Dominator

If we are wrong we can lynch LYnchMeSideWays tomorrow.

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Well I am pretty sure I know what happened.
Time for mass claim, did everyone claim?

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Popcorn Fire Assassin.

1 shot BP

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That makes no sense, doctor, BP and role cop?

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And lynch is a neighbor, unless scum has strongman

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You really are trying to sell you got shot last night? Over RC?

Why would RC get shot?
VOTE: Titus

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VOTE: FA

Because Dom implicitly cleared them, they were on the first scum lynch and widely townread. I have been healing RC since Night 1.

That's not how role cop works lol

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At least I know not getting screwed by scumRC again

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No, you're getting screwed by scumFA

Your actions and your day talk don't match up.

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Why wouldn't RC get shot considering dom fucking cleared me?

How does a role cop clear you exactly?

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Titus, I think you're town and will blindly sheep whoever you want to vote.

I want you to think long and hard before you make that decision though.

You are unbelievable.

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I guess it could be Titus is scum and RC is a traitor or something. I don't think that is a normal mechanic, but who knows.

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Lets see. Titus kills me, and then both Titus and RC would lynch Lynch.
Makes sense.

If Titus kills RC, then still could lynch Lynch possibly. So I wonder why claim to heal RC? Feed the ego?

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I'mm not voting Titus. consider the game already won by her if she's scum.

explain why we should vote ZZZX or don't.

Why would there be a BP and a Doctor plus a Rolecop?

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here I am talking setup spec, when I loathe it.

I honestly came in here thinking it Lynch.
Now I am using setup spec to PoE this.
I am terribad.

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Why not skip?
If I die, you can figure it out.

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VOTE: Skip
We are in MYLO anyways.

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What?

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Can scum even do two actions in one night in normals?
I don't remember that being normal.

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I ask you again.

Why do you think Dom cleared me?

Dom didn't clear you.

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He did.

Why do you think Dom cleared me and why do you think that makes me implicitly trust Titus?

No he didn't.

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Not really much just 99.8% sure RC is town.

Why do you think he said that?

Cause he checked you? I don't know how role = alignment at all. He wasn't a cop.

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I am a nurse, aka backup doc.

Titus is town. stop being a twit.

Mod Requesting Replacing out. I am done with RC bullshit.

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UNVOTE:

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I am not in the emotional state right now to play mafia.
I hate you both right now, and i know that I don't really hate you both.

I try to tell myself this is just a game, but I really hate it right now.

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@Mod This is MYLO leave me in, I don't want to replace out at the end of a game again. I will tough this out.

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ZZZX should claim.

He claimed neighbor several days ago. He didn't say any other modifiers or w/e

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Look bar the fucking claim there's always some element of discomfort from Scum!Titus when she's talking to me.
she does weird shit like drag the convos out of context, trying to entirely de-emotionalize it, or just refuses to engage with me.
she's been like entirely comfortbale with me and trying to sort me all game and I can't see her as scum right now.

I don't see it strong as scum either. I just know my role. I assumed I was last PR.
I don't get this setup. Though I don't know why I am trying to sort this by setup.

I have been scumreading Lyncher, but I don't know anymore.

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I thought I hinted enough that I was a PR that scum attacked me.

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I already stated I am not claiming.

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if you're BP you would have been my target last night.

I thought you would have attacked me the night I asked if you were scum to be honest.

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literally my only concern rn is that Titus is'nt acknowledging that I could be scum who targeted FA and just manipulated today's situation.

So you aren't cleared?
OMG can the headache for this just stop.

Is a Nurse a normal role to give to scum, yes or no?

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The fact that you ignore other peoples arguments Titus, is why peoples get frustrated.

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The fact that you ignore other peoples arguments Titus, is why peoples get frustrated.

I don't. That's a myth.

Its really not.

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I already volunteered to comod it Titus.

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I am also drinking right now, I figure I needed to cooldown.

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FA, I asked you some game related questions.

Not in the mood for game related questions.

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Okies.

How are you feeling right onw?

A little frustrated. Plus this drink isn't going to get me drunk, so I need a lot more.

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What have I ignored?

Let me have it. You won't hurt me. That's rule number 1 with Titus. Unless you're calling me retarded, you're good.

You often ignore my reads. I know that as much. I have seen you deathtunnel stuff that people point out is bad, and you still do it.

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Then Titus leaves when I arrive.

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What have I ignored?

Let me have it. You won't hurt me. That's rule number 1 with Titus. Unless you're calling me retarded, you're good.

You often ignore my reads. I know that as much. I have seen you deathtunnel stuff that people point out is bad, and you still do it.

They just say it's bad. I work on evidence.

I'm not gone just slow. I'll be here for a few hours.

You and RC stubbornness are legendary.

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Ohh come on Titus, you know who I am.
Really?

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Yeah, RC mentioned my name at least 3 times in this game.
How can you not pick up on it?

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Because I'm clueless and I care more about what people say than who they are.

I don't believe you at all.

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You two realize that isn't even the name of the player inhabiting that slot, right?

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VOTE: LynchMeSideways
Meh if Titus is scum she won.
I am going to go get drinks.

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Actually, there was no reason to hammer that...

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Meh.
Time to go get drinks.

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Pretty sure it didn't.

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I think he is due for a prod now.

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By the way LynchMe, if you haven't claimed within 24 hours of your arrival in thread or the mod technically says he has to look for a replacement, I'm hammering.

And I don't joke.

You can't hammer, Lynch isn't even at L-1.
I am the only one voting him.

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You can't be mad at us TTH, we are literally waiting on a slot thats been almost entirely empty all game.
Which isn't your fault.

Just sucks and is annoying for all.

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Would you be insulted if I say you are a strong women that intimidates us all
<3

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Hi everybody and welcome to the show "Who wants to be the third occupant of the ZZZX slot?"

I didn't like the first addition or the second addition to be honest. Maybe the third would be a major improvement to shows dynamic?

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I really think there is nothing to discuss until we get a new person in that slot to discuss anything.
Really lost on this role list for this game, but w/e.

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FA, you should see Titus as conftown right now.

Why should I townread you here over LynchMe?

Yeah, I get it. I mean, 99% you can't fake the last page, Titus seemed to really think that Lynch was at L-1, don't see how came to that.

Meh.
Why townread me? I can't answer that. I mean if I was scum, I probably would have killed Titus and tried to lynch Lynchme.

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You're saying that, with the rolecop inno on me, you still wouldn't have tried to NK me?

Pretty much.

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Fire Assassin hates setup speculation, so let's make the fate of this game rest solely upon the shoulders of setup speculation. That'll be fun.

The rage in me is real.

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Why did you rush the hammer yesterday FA?

What?

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Because I am scum.

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Lol, keep making stuff up RC.

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lol I am about to see a rare moment when RC fucks up the game.

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VOTE: LynchMeSideways
Meh if Titus is scum she won.
I am going to go get drinks.

I guess this is true, but you two weren't voting the guy with right now, if anything you were also doing that.

I was a bit drunk when I posted that. I just wanted the game over, I still do. I am done debating stuff.

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Watch this whole game its RC, and he is just fucking with us all. That would be a spectacular scum game.

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Jesus Christ

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So then vote me?

I find it funny you accuse me of fast lynching Dom when you were the one threatening to quick lynch him that day.

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Expect prod dodges till we lynch.
Not posting anything more.

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The prodiest of dodges I am a ninja.

The best of the ninja, no other ninjas can deny, I am an assassin.

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I still don't see what crumb your talking about.

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The prodiest of dodges I am a ninja.

The best of the ninja, no other ninjas can deny, I am an assassin.

are you claiming ninja?

I am a good ninja assassin.

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I'll be honest here.

I'm playing to win, but I won't be particularly torn up if this is lost. Given that all three of you were ready to lynch LynchMeSideways at the time I joined, the status quo of the game was "town loss," so it's not like anything changed. I am, however, going to be quite annoyed if I read all 48 pages and

still

lose. While I understand that you two are hesitant and don't want to throw the game when there's that part of you that suspects that I'm town and right about this game, I'm weighing the cost and benefit here of doing what you're asking me to do, and your posts right now are squarely pointing to "not worth the effort."

While everyone is here, I'm going to go find what Titus is asking me to find. If I don't find it -- or do -- I'm going to let the cards fall where they may. Just end it sooner rather than later.

This game has been pretty much a lurkfest, its not even that long.
Meh.

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I think we should ban "Normal" Micros from the queue. Actually ban all games from the queue.

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I don't see any need to hide this anymore, so I am claiming BP.

Either I'm super blind or Fire Assassin didn't react to this or to Creature's second attempt at claiming bulletproof.

Not to mention that Fire Assassin, to "wake up the game," started a wagon on Titus when Creature's wagon was two votes from lynch three days from deadline.

Wish I had some alcohol.

You are saying I should have assumed there wasn't a second BP and immediately pushed Creature for it?

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You are saying I should have assumed there wasn't a second BP and immediately pushed Creature for it?

I would have. "There must be a second X" isn't the usual reaction that a town power role gets when someone claims their role, especially in a Normal.

I don't normally setup spec.

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Urgh.

Titus, I'll follow you.

One of the few times RC is not confident in something and it has some relation to reading my slot.
I didn't know I was this difficult for you to read.

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If you scumread me then vote me.
Don't put emotions into this, I am done having outbursts.
I am fine with however this game ends. I am just ready to end it.

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Like if you think mislynching me is going to upset me, its not. Its fine, we all make mistakes.

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*duckface*

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Game is over.
Seriously, fuck setup spec.

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Shit game was shit.

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You can go ahead and release the Mafia PT, TTH.
Its mostly me giving up on all hopes on playing mafia anymore.

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"Claiming BP was a bad strategy"-Creature.
Same person who claimed it.

Really?

Also, Titus, you didn't heal RC. I no killed.

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Good game, all.

You didn't play. You setup specced.

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Good game, all.

You didn't play. You setup specced.

You fakeclaimed, silly.
Of course he would catch you by setup spec.

And you designed a horrible setup.

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Unbalanced or boring?

Its normal, they are always going to be boring.
But its also unbalanced.
So this was balanced around giving scum day talk? Even though two doctors and a rolecop existed?
What does Encryptor show up for rolecop?

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