Micro 607: The Walking Dead, Episode 4 GAME OVER!

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Jake from State Farm

[SirCakez]

Considering this is a Radja game you should probabky unvote before someone derphammers.

[SirCakez]

I can promise you all that I win with town.

Are you third party or something?

[SirCakez]

Jake you think he was fakeclaiming Double Voter, a confirmable role?
Wtf

[SirCakez]

What's the scum motivation in fakeclaiming page one then?

[SirCakez]

I never said there was scum motivation for fake claiming. I am not calling him scum or even think he is scum atm. he is null to me

He has to be town or scum though and you said town has no reason to claim on page 1.

[SirCakez]

What's the scum motivation in fakeclaiming page one then?

Um how about the fact that everyone seems to assume he is town? A double voter could be scum.

This is a better point.

[SirCakez]

All right your posts made it sound like you were scumreading him based off his claim.

[SirCakez]

well the thing was I already said I didn't find scum motivation and you went and asked me again. if you are town please keep up and pay attention.

You had me confuzzled because you were pushing him over it but you're apparently townreading him so mb.

shotty why did you vote me again when you were already voting? seems kind of redundant if you ask me

You know what else is redundant?

shotty why did you vote me

again

when you were

already

voting?

should just be "shotty why did you vote me when you were already voting" or "shotty why did you vote me again?"

This is a super terrible post. That grammar isn't indicative of anything.

WTF I'm L-1 by post 21? Somethings not right here. I can promise you all that I win with town.

Whats not right here then?

I have figured that out yet, or else something would have been replaced with something other than something.

Then why would you lash out by saying "WTF I promise i win with town!" if we probably weren't going to hammer you?

I don't think I lashed out. I think I just promised that I won with town. Do you NOT promise that you win with the town? Is winning with town a bad thing for you?

Its not that you said you won with town, its the "WTF" that striked me as lashing out, since by playing on this site and seeing RVS happen early game i'd expect you to be atleast familiar with how the concept of how you can pressure someone for alignment tells at L-1, since they can look nervous afterwards. Atleast, I just don't like how people do the whole "NO wait i promise i win with town!" because in all honesty that line doesn't help, nada.

I really like this reasoning. I agree that Shotty's reaction to going to L-1 so early looked bad.

The I promise I win with town wasn't in response to the L-1, but rather being called a traitor.

Alright, that makes some sense. shotty is starting to look townie, so i'm going to move my vote to jake, since I agree with what's being said about him

VOTE: Jake from statefarm

But then this is less good. Why is he looking townie now?

Beeboy you should unvote probably.

[SirCakez]

You had me confuzzled because you were pushing him over it but you're apparently townreading him so mb.

Ok am I being punked or something? Or do you just have problems reading?

1. I wasn't pushing anything. I just said I didn't believe his claim and all my posts after that were basically responses to questions/posts made towards me

2. I never said I was town reading him. I said he's null and he's still sort of null. Being double voter does make me feel better about him but as said by others it's possible it could be a scum role.

1. Saying you didn't believe his claim is pushing tho.
2. Thought you said you had a townread on him, whoops.

[SirCakez]

No it's not pushing. So whoops x2

Agree to disagree.

@SC Its not that i'm towning him so much, even if this is a bit contradicting, shotty is sorta null-townie. I guess I can kind of see the nervousness behind his posts but at the same time some frustration???

In other words I mostly moved the vote off to try pressuring Jake.

You think his nervousness and frustration were townie? They looked a lot more like scum reactions to me.
Especially the "I win with town!".

[SirCakez]

@SC Its not that i'm towning him so much, even if this is a bit contradicting, shotty is sorta null-townie. I guess I can kind of see the nervousness behind his posts but at the same time some frustration???

In other words I mostly moved the vote off to try pressuring Jake.

I am a bit frustrated. I think that is a perfectly town response. Scum like to frustrate people and then call it nervousness

But on the flip side town like to frustrate scum and also call it nervousness.

Your reaction bugs me but what bugs me the most is the "I win with town" means you aren't town. Now you may not be Mafia/zombie/whatever Radja uses in these games but you stated very clearly you aren't town

If I say I am a square does that mean I can't be a rectangle.

You are so cheeky and scummy simultaneously.

No it's not pushing. So whoops x2

Agree to disagree.

@SC Its not that i'm towning him so much, even if this is a bit contradicting, shotty is sorta null-townie. I guess I can kind of see the nervousness behind his posts but at the same time some frustration???

In other words I mostly moved the vote off to try pressuring Jake.

You think his nervousness and frustration were townie? They looked a lot more like scum reactions to me.
Especially the "I win with town!".

Its not the nervousness in general, he was just giving me gut feelings, since i've acted like he is before. But...

I am a bit frustrated. I think that is a perfectly town response. Scum like to frustrate people and then call it nervousness

This strikes some red flags up for me.

Gut makes more sense I guess, but you just quoted another red flag post so do you still have the nulltown read on him?

Radja, you have a sick sense of humour!

Yes, I do

It's like he wants the quickhammers.

[SirCakez]

Beeboy can you just avoid using your vote unless you really want to?
VOTE: drmyshottyizsik
now that Beeboy has unvoted I can move here

[SirCakez]

BBT I don't care about the pressure I feel like a quickhammer is very likely if he keeps throwing around his vote which is my concern.

[SirCakez]

You aren't worried about a quickhammer?

[SirCakez]

I'm just extremely paranoid knowing Radja's games BBT :/
The OP says Bellaphant, is it the hydra with Aero or just Bella?
I could vote there potentially.

[SirCakez]

Why does Shotty have to be left alone? Because of the soft claim?

[SirCakez]

So yeah the soft claim then beeboy OK.
I need to check Ness's ISO, I liked his earlier push in Shotty iirc

[SirCakez]

Looked at Ness's ISO
His posts about his townread on Shotty were awkward but I don't think they were from scum. More likely someone struggling to get feelings on a read out there.

VOTE: CatDog hey there

[SirCakez]

Believe Ness's claim, that intent was dumb
Shotty said he could confirm himself as town, doesn't necessarily mean IC (could be a vig for example although that's looking unlikely now)

Still good with my CatDog vote, starting to develop a scumread on Bella as well

[SirCakez]

Beeboy's intent to hammer on Ness

I believe it becase I already had a townread on him and that claim makes sense to me. Why don't you believe it?

[SirCakez]

I don't like your scumread on Ness and you've barely talked about reads on anyone outside of Ness/Bella.

[SirCakez]

If Shotty fails to confirm himself as town then we lynch him
ez
no reason to go off attacking him now

[SirCakez]

Java why are you trying to get Shotty to claim pointlessly?

[SirCakez]

I think Jake is town though beeboy, just town who has no idea what he's doing

[SirCakez]

Rest of those three are shifty af though yeah

[SirCakez]

If I HAD to pick one then Ness I suppose since Shotty says he's confirmable and scum double voter in a micro would be OP
Beeboy does your double vote ever go away?

[SirCakez]

So enough for a scum quickhammer if both scum are left at 5p
Ya I really don't see beeboy as scum with that in mind

[SirCakez]

Link?

[SirCakez]

That game was also extremely bastard Jake

shos Phony (Jester "Innocent" Child) - Lynched Day 1
Davsto Goody-Two-Shoes (Town ???????) - Killed Night 1
Prolapsed Brain Con Artist (Town Weak Neighbouriser) - Lynched Day 2
Catboi Equivocator (Town Commuting Amnesiac) - Killed Night 2
MarioManiac4 Trickster (Bulletproof Werewolf-Traitor Mason Janitor) - Lynched Day 3
Firebringer Cheat (Mafia Ninja Conditional-Double-Voter) - Lynched Day 4
Flubbernugget Prevaricator (Werewolf-Traitor Mason 1-Shot-Desperado) - Lynched Day 5

Just look at those roles, that doesn't compare to this game at all

[SirCakez]

Jake can you stop pushing someone who says they are confirmable town?
If he doesn't confirm himself as town then we lynch him, its easy. U less that happens, then no point attacking him.

Java it should be really obvious if you read the thread.

[SirCakez]

There were five PRs in Episode 3...

[SirCakez]

Outside of the claimed PRs, who is your top scum read right and why Java?

[SirCakez]

Jakes and BBT are obv town.

That leaves the pool of {Bella, Java and you}
I think Bella is town so that leaves the 2 of you.
I am not giving you a choice here, you or them.

Why am I not in this pool?

I am the town leader

*thumbs down*

Lynching one of PRs is dumb, completely agree with that.

We find scum outside of PR pool and go from there.

^^^

Shotty - inno child that ends the day

Where did he claim this wtf

[SirCakez]

Shotty can you still confirm yourself as town or no?

466 and 467 are lolbad. Fine lynching this, but don't want to hammer yet.

[SirCakez]

If you think both Shotty and Ness are town Beeboy, then you should want to lynch Jake?

[SirCakez]

It's really important he survives night 1.

Nah I think shotty is scum

O.o

[SirCakez]

I think Beeboy's town still from his claim and following play. Jake's push here is weak.

[SirCakez]

Jake's alignment depends a lot on Shotty here actually
I'm pretty sure both Beeboy and Ness are town, so that means likely one scum between Shotty and Jake

[SirCakez]

Bee claimed Andrea on page 1...

[SirCakez]

Bee claimed Andrea on page 1...

But know he's going on about the leader, it feels like a bread crumb to point.at. idk I just don't know what else they mean by town leader

A town leader is the person who decides all the lynches because they are good at the game and globally town read.

^^^
Not literally a leader of the town in flavor

[SirCakez]

This is super easy. Shotty and Beeboy are confirmed different alignments. We lynch Shotty today, if town flip lynch Beeboy.

[SirCakez]

OK Shotty is just scum gg

[SirCakez]

You're claiming a three shot cop who can use all their shots in one night, yeah?
How is this confirmable as town?

[SirCakez]

I'm not a survivor wtf

[SirCakez]

Jake and Shotty are both scum gg, Shotty's claim is obv fake and Jake has a fake guilty on me

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Shotty

[SirCakez]

^ L-1

[SirCakez]

Flavor and full role?

[SirCakez]

Radja never uses vanilla Cops in his games

[SirCakez]

If you never lied then you basically couldn't play mafia.

[SirCakez]

I have a better theory
You're a scum traitor and Shotty is Java's buddy
You're trying a suicidal fakeclaim to save him

[SirCakez]

Suuurrre

[SirCakez]

Shotty is obvscum

[SirCakez]

I have way too many scumreads

[SirCakez]

Shotty has a claimed inno on me. But he's scum.

[SirCakez]

Insane cop is bastard

[SirCakez]

You also called half the playerlist scum Jake

[SirCakez]

You have called Shotty, Beeboy, Ness slot and myself all scum. That's half the playerlist.

[SirCakez]

Oh yeah you didn't call Ness scum
You called CatDog scum though

[SirCakez]

Oh yeah Jake could be a Lyncher also, Radja used that in Episode 1

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]

Was kind of bummed you didn't leave ness at l-1. Would have been nice to see a reaction but yeah I don't believe cat's recent posts.

vote: cat

That's L-1

@java - maybe but I had already formed my opinion so this time no

If catfish isn't scum it's probably bee/shotty

[SirCakez]

Jake can you not throw a temper tantrum
P-edit: lol OK voting someone and saying if they aren't scum someone else is isn't calling them scum apparently GG

[SirCakez]

GG town
That was pretty unlucky

[SirCakez]

I mean, he was right about Shotty being scum
Just not the right scum

[SirCakez]

I don't know why Shotty didn't just claim Survivor, really.

[SirCakez]

Eh could've bussed better.

[SirCakez]

/pre-in for next

[SirCakez]

Yea I thought you were trying to help scum at the end but that was a no-win scenario :/

[SirCakez]

Seems legit

[SirCakez]

FYI I was going to kill Ness before I saw you replaced in :p
Proof is in scum chat