Micro 598: Anime U-Pick Pack A (CRUNCHYROLL WINS!)

[Thor665]

Greetings!

I'm lazy at heart - someone give me a synopsis.

[Thor665]

Personally I want you to read through it yourself anyway.

Maybe I will, you never know.

Why is Rhaz scummy?

[Thor665]

Well, that sucks.

[Thor665]

@Rhaz - what reaction from Magna towards your Cop fakeclaim would have read as town for you?

@Magna - any clarification about that roleblock question yet?

[Thor665]

I was actually leaning Town on Magna when I first read the reply. I started writing a response to why I thought he was Town, then I realized he claimed to have visited me. I honestly was just trying to wing it since we're in MyLo. Apparently it worked though.

What makes his response to you scummy in any way at all?

I got it before I posted today. All I could get confirmed is that No Result meant my investigation did not go through. No positive or negative confirmation whether, for example, an Ascetic being investigation immune would still mean I targeted Rhaz for purposes of getting a second Cop shot.

So, functionally, you could both be telling the truth but only if a RBer had a ninja modifier.

Would you support us questing for a RBer claim? With both of you claiming powerful investigative roles, I would tend to presume that anyone who prevented your shot, if town, would aid town by claiming as such, and thus allowing us to snag assured scum, and, vice versa, yeah?

[Thor665]

I'm still not sure what sort of reaction test it is to declare a guilty on someone falsly - but could you expand on how the flavor implies a ninja please?

[Thor665]

My results said either there are no results or my ability has trouble getting them.

Considering that Magna claimed he got a Null result straight up - why wouldn't you think he was lying about that if the Mod sent you an either/or result as opposed to a straight Null?

@Magna - I presume you're standing by your claim of straight Null from the Mod?

[Thor665]

That returns us to a strongly likely situation where one of you is a filthy liar, natch.
Okay, let's get Scourge in here to claim.

[Thor665]

Eh, if Rahz had come back with some sort of fluff based answer suggesting ninja or null then we'd be having a different conversation. That he doubled down on blocked while opening door to ninja does less for me.

Why do you think scum Rahz fakeclaimed to bag and tag you? That would tend to sort of leave him dead tomorrow by definition, yeah? What's the gain for scum there?

[Thor665]

...We're in MyLo. That's what scum gains.

So that was your plan in the QT all along?

[Thor665]

Rahz has been on site since my last question, so I'll just presume he is scum of the two now.
/Update.

[Thor665]

QuickTopic - shorthand from back when the site used that site for hidden topics.

[Thor665]

Rahz has been on site since my last question, so I'll just presume he is scum of the two now.
/Update.

What? You were assuming scum before....

Yes, and?

[Thor665]

This game is super dead, it's so dead it's confusing me elsewhere.
Live, game, live!

[Thor665]

Thank you.

[Thor665]

I am not changing my mind:
VOTE: Mangaofillusion

Why do you think he's the one lying?

[Thor665]

Since I haven't made a case,I am unsure why you took pains to point out greater belief in your skills than a non-existent case, but...okay?
Gut - copy.

[Thor665]

Since I haven't made a case,I am unsure why you took pains to point out greater belief in your skills than a non-existent case, but...okay?
Gut - copy.

You haven't? I have no skills, though my intuition is strong in skills of an assassin. I think I can spot a liar pretty well.

I have?
I hope you can explain how someone is a liar just as well, unless you figure Scourge is going to vote your way.
If I was you, and convinced I'd spotted a liar, I'd be worried that the other side's voting block looks larger.

[Thor665]

Why were you ducking saying that earlier?
MoI was not being hard to understand in what question he was asking - I was skimming and I grokked it, so...?

[Thor665]

So, yes, RhazBash is confirmed scum.

Did you get confirmation from the Mod that your action went through or something?

[Thor665]

Oh, wait, I get it, the Watcher said he didn't see the target.

So basically MoI was either jailed (alien variety - because of derp new lingo) or Rhaz is lying.

Sexy.

[Thor665]

I guess MoI could also theory be ascetic.

[Thor665]

FOUR DAYS REMAINING!

@Mod - since we're in the middle of a massclaim and are specifically waiting on one of the lurk slots to claim in order to do "anything at all" could you at least hand us a freeze on the countdown till we get that replacement? The game slog at the moment clearly has nothing to do with the active playerset.

[Thor665]

Why were you ducking saying that earlier?
MoI was not being hard to understand in what question he was asking - I was skimming and I grokked it, so...?

I wasn't ducking, but I can see how that is viewed from a certain point of view.

What were you doing then?

[Thor665]

FOUR DAYS REMAINING!

@Mod - since we're in the middle of a massclaim and are specifically waiting on one of the lurk slots to claim in order to do "anything at all" could you at least hand us a freeze on the countdown till we get that replacement? The game slog at the moment clearly has nothing to do with the active playerset.

Alright, the timer is stopped at 3 days, 21 hours, 59 minutes. It will continue ticking after we found one replacement.

As long as that replacement is for Scourge, the player we're on hold for, I am okay with this.
Otherwise I strongly disagree.

[Thor665]

Hi. Someone tell me why Magna is sucking air?

You said you Cop investigated him.

[Thor665]

He cross claimed against you.

[Thor665]

It is.
That's why we haven't auto-lynched him for the cross claim, maybe it's true and you're lying about being a cop.

[Thor665]

You did get your investigative result from the mod, yeah?
MoI guilty, yeah?

[Thor665]

He's claiming he targeted you but got null due to roleblock.

[Thor665]

Mixing up newguys, above is at Virtue, not Dwlee - sorry.

[Thor665]

Pretty sure you're not an alt Thor.

Your point about Fire is meaningless - Fire positioned himself before Dwlee and I replaced in, so...?

I also don't get how you presume (even if I were to accept that Fire is town) how his presence on a wagon assures it of being a town wagon.
By that logic double scum has to be voting for you. Which would make Kanbei scum, which would mean that he is a scum fruit vendor (per Dwelee's claim) or that scum have a poisoner, who claimed poisoner, and town has a track/watcher *and* a role that auto tracks the poisoner.

Which just seems rude to scum.

[Thor665]

Oh, wait, and also this, that I was typing up before I went for the above maneuver.

WHOOPS!

Rhaz's power set seems substantially more powerful than any of ours.

The Fruit Vendor thing is being a bit wonky to me - if MoI and Fruit Vendor are both legit, then theoretically that's kind of like a potential double clear in Day 2.
Especially odd with the Fruit Vendor verifier - almost like it's trying to punish scum if they deny getting the fruit?
Eh?

With MoI's claim and Rhaz's, there is potentially a scum JKer.
Okay, let's think this through;

Rhaz town/MoI scum - MoI *has* to be Ascetic at this stage (because with the Fruit Vendor also targeting him he can't be a Ninja) or scum would have needed to roleblock Rhaz (in which case MoI would know that and would probably have had a cooler response to Rhaz...? Considering the town PR spread I see little point to a Mafia Ascetic, I will admit.

Rhaz scum/MoI town - Rhaz is probably the scum JKer/RBer and targeted MoI, as an early claim this makes sense for fear of an actual tracker sort of claim. My big issue here is the potential self kibosh for a counter investigative claim (did Rhaz claim the Tracker/Watcher thing after any other claims?) There is a likely 100% chance town would get an investigative of some stripe, and scum should know that, so though there is a strategic concept to that ploy. I suppose I need to go and look at how well regarded Rhaz was after Day 1, but I will admit my skin crawls that MoI claimed second and, lulz, also investigated the person he's counterclaiming.

[Thor665]

@Thor

– I understand why you did what you did re: Virtue but did you seriously think it would work?

If it did - great, we catch scum.
If it didn't - it hurts nothing.

So even for a .00001% chance it was worth doing.

I think the chance was at least that.

[Thor665]

I don't believe anyone has claimed a role that interacts with the poison like mine does.

So here's my question - can do you consider your role to be possibly a functional VT disguised role?

I ask because we have had zero flips that indicate a VT role. And now that the full-claim is done no-one has claimed VT or a role that Poisons.

So either there is a scum Poisoner out there or your role is a flowery VT meant to look not like a VT to you.

Isn't the fruit vendor the poisoner?

[Thor665]

No, you're right, I missed about half of last page for some reason.

[Thor665]

Irony.

No, it isn't.

@Thor/Ranger, Pretty sure this is Magna and Dwlee. Ball is in your court.

And what a weighty ball it is.
I'll process that massive case in due time

[Thor665]

But Dwlee just subbed in, so him have no reads makes esne...the claim is weird. But does go with earlier player? I don't remember Scourge saying that role. Yeah, its weird.

I agree with this - also, I'm not sure why Ranger gets such a lark clear in Virtue's mind.

[Thor665]

@Thor, I am obviously an alt. I am aware of your position on that particular reaction test. Yes, it is ironic that the one guy who thinks they never works on him used it. I am not accusing that of being scummy just ironic and I couldn't help myself.

1. You are clearly not as obvious an alt as you thought, because I didn't think it - and even if you were, it still doesn't make it ironic.
2. I don't think you are aware of my opinion - because thinking it works on me has no bearing to thinking it works on others, and I've never once suggested it was a reaction test that should never be used. In fact I'm pretty sure I'm on record as it being a reaction test I expect to be used.

But if that's "ironic" to you - rock on.

Now, we have Ranger and Dwlee. Ranger opens very different than her scumgame, she's reading and sorting people. She's engaging and asking questions to form her reads. The claim mechanically confirms one of us as scum for the most part. Unless Ranger is a roleblocker that ascetics the target and is scum with FA, that move makes little sense for scum Ranger.

I don't see how any of the role notes here have any bearing at all.
Also, at least for me, I've found Ranger's presence and effort in thread pretty lackluster.
It's not exactly a scumhunting clinic - it was a decent replace in followed by a lurk.
You don't see scum Ranger doing that?

Dwlee on the other hand has made zero effort to sort anyone, ignored my questions for reads multiple times, and makes no sense. Dwlee in his first content says that I am overeager to get a lynch through on him, that makes zero sense. Today's lynch is on me or Magna. If the game continues to tomorrow, it means Magna is scum.

Dwlee is not making an effort to solve the game or get reads.

Dwlee has made about as much effort as you, in my opinion.
He is being slow in offering reads.
You're offering a lot of reads off rather thin value calls.
I'm not sure why I'm supposed to take one as obv. scum. Both look like normal sort of replace in hoo-hah.
Hell, look at when I (the super scumhunter who puts in effort) replaced in. I sat around asking questions, and (as far as I'm aware) haven't really offered a single solid read yet.
Yet, somehow, I'm townish and he's scummy?
I've been here longer - shouldn't that make me worse?

Feels like you're trying to set up useful battle lines for yourself, rather than sorting anything. You don't want to annoy Fire, who is voting your way, so he is a strong town read that you defend.
That leaves you three players, one of whom you need to demonize, so why not pick the soft, quiet slot with the weird roleclaim?

Though, that does make me consider something else.

@MoI - who is Virtue's/Rhaz's partner? I don't think I've seen you sound off on this yet, and that feels like something you'd normally have outlined a massive case on already while pronouncing your brilliance to the thread at large. Yet I seem to have nothing.

Whassup?

[Thor665]

Because he's stuck with the claim he didn't get it. He never received it because he's ascetic.

Or...y'know, jailkept.

@Ranger - I actually did claim my role, go back and find a post of mine edited by the mod - I can't really clarify beyond that at this point.
Pretty sure I'm confirmed town now though, not that anyone but Fire Assassin is being crazed enough to suggest otherwise.

@Ranger
@Dwlee

So you both seem to be leaning that Magna is the honest one, and Rhaz is the liar.
What are your thoughts on the Rhaz (Virtue) kill fest request at the start of Day 2?
He appeals to Fire, and basically lists me as the optimal death, but adds in MoI and Ranger as possible good shots also.
We know that an MoI/Virtue team is basically assured not legit, that, to my mind kind of rules out me and Ranger also, and barring scum theatre it rules out Fire.

That would make it be Virtue/Dwlee, which I imagine at least Dwlee disagrees with.
Thoughts?

[Thor665]

@Thor, I would see jailkeepers.

Aliens then, if you wish.

[Thor665]

a jailkeeper already flipped

Who?

[Thor665]

I just think the way Rhaz's claim played out in conjunction with Fire Assassin's retracted second shot is highly, highly convenient.

How?

Dude I quoted the post with the original claim. And theb you also just ignore more than half of my posts?

For the record, I'm not going to address your case because I don't wish to be rude.

With a mindset of ignoring your case on Magna, could you address my question to you, the one where I asked about potential partners?

[Thor665]

How could potential scumbuddies not matter?

Say we can rule out any partners for either MoI or Rhaz -that hands us the correct lynch. It matters quite a bit.

[Thor665]

So we have a fake limited Cop or a fake Watcher+Tracker/Rolecop.

We have flipped/claimed
Thor's role
Roleblocker (limited)
Doc
BP (indicating some possibility that Mod thought lack of kills would be a thing)
Fruit Vendor (?)
Poison detector/warn of post restriction
1 shot Dayvig

@Dwlee - as the poison detector dude, what is your alignment read on Ranger considering how your roles appear to interact?

@Ranger - discuss your thoughts on how you're a fruit vendor if there is a role that appears to poison and you appear to maybe be a cure - how clear is your role on your antidote being useless?

@Virtue - I tend to want to buy into you because you claimed first, and I will admit that often goes well as a baseline reaction to cross claims. That said, your role looks quite powerful in context of the game, whereas MoI's slightly gimped and unusual investigate seems very much normal. What are your thoughts on this?

[Thor665]

@Virtue - also, why do you think your role and Dwlee's role would both exist?

[Thor665]

So your theory is that Mafia was given poison, that requires a post restriction to trigger, which means that anyone targeted by it is assured town, making you like a weak cop?

How do you see your role balancing with Magna or Virtue's claimed roles?

[Thor665]

[Thor665]

I think I'm just starting to conf. bias everything I'm reading.

At the end of the day this is where I'm at.

Magna's claim was handled in a townish way and looks legit - pro.
It maybe looks too legit - con

Rhaz's claim is wonky and sloppily handled - con.
He has no actual upside to that reaction test in mylo (hurr, reaction test a fake cop claim - yeah!) - con.
He came first - pro.

So...meh

Vote: Virtue

Final answer.

I kind of think it's Dwee, for the record, later, if I'm dead.

[Thor665]

Basically I *absolutely* don't think that Fire/Rhaz thing looked scum theatre, that looked like scum trying to steer a shot.
And I don't really see the Ranger/Virtue pair, not that I'm ruling it out for anything too brilliant, but...meh.

[Thor665]

thor, my slot has crumbed this role since day one and I hadnt read any of the thread before I replaced in and the moment I replaced in I saw the word massclaim and claimed. How am I scum

If your biggest concern is what happens to be my read on you as I'm trying to lynch Virtue....well, let's make that the case for why you're scum.

Also I'll admit, the concept of your role being real, with no town claiming a blocking power, means scum chose not to use their poison kill power...?
Meh, kinda don't buy it.
I guess maybe Fire is scum and has the option to poison or Daykill, or MoI is scum and has the power to poison or self-ascetic, or Virtue is scum and has the power to poison or jail. But...like, that all seems highly unlikely as an either/or option since all of those options are really dumb when compared to the "power" of a maybe kill.

[Thor665]

I am pretty sure if Virtue is scum here, scum literally would have to bus for this lynch to happen. Which I don't see happening?

Well, really, the point here is that, by definition, either 100% of the town need to agree, or scum need to bus.

Like, who is their ally here? I can't see anyone. Especially not Dwlee.

Why can't you see Dwlee? He is opposing their lynch, yet not voting Magna, that seems within expected scum reaction to me.
Also, from an outside looking in perspective, you could be their partner (though I disagree with this also)

At this stage the reverse team pretty much has to be Magna/Ranger - do you think that team makes sense?
Like, It's pretty much Virtue/Dwlee or Magna/Ranger - can you rule out either team?

[Thor665]

Unvote: Virtue

Let's do some color coding!

[Thor665]

So, here's reality;

RhazhBash

(3):

androgybee

, Ranger, Shisou

androgybee

(2):

randomidget

,

Soren

Soren

(1): KainTepes

Ranger

(1): RhazhBash

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

===================================================================

Soren

(3): Ranger,

randomidget

, MagnaofIllusion

RhazhBash

(2):

androgybee

, Shisou

androgybee

(1):

Soren

Ranger

(1): RhazhBash

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Official Vote Count

Soren

(3): MagnaofIllusion, Fire Assassin,

randomidget

randomidget

(2):

Soren

, RhazhBash

Fire Assassin

(1): Ranger

Not Voting

(2): Dwlee,

THOR665

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Soren

(5): MagnaofIllusion,

randomidget

, Ranger, Dwlee,

THOR665

randomidget

(2): RhazhBash,

Soren

MagnaofIllusion

(1): Fire Assassin

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
=============================================
=============================================
=============================================

Here is Magna/Ranger as the scum team.

RhazhBash

(3):

androgybee

,

MagnaofIllusion

, Shisou

androgybee

(2):

randomidget

,

Soren

Soren

(1): KainTepes

MagnaofIllusion

(1): RhazhBash

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

===================================================================

Soren

(3):

MagnaofIllusion

,

randomidget

,

MagnaofIllusion

RhazhBash

(2):

androgybee

, Shisou

androgybee

(1):

Soren

MagnaofIllusion

(1): RhazhBash

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Official Vote Count

Soren

(3):

MagnaofIllusion

, Fire Assassin,

randomidget

randomidget

(2):

Soren

, RhazhBash

Fire Assassin

(1):

MagnaofIllusion

Not Voting

(2): Dwlee,

THOR665

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Soren

(5):

MagnaofIllusion

,

randomidget

,

MagnaofIllusion

, Dwlee,

THOR665

randomidget

(2): RhazhBash,

Soren

MagnaofIllusion

(1): Fire Assassin

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

=============================================
=============================================
=============================================

Here is Virtue/Dwlee as the scum team;

RhazhBash

(3):

androgybee

, Ranger, Shisou

androgybee

(2):

randomidget

,

Soren

Soren

(1): KainTepes

Ranger

(1):

RhazhBash

randomidget

(1):

Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

===================================================================

Soren

(3): Ranger,

randomidget

, MagnaofIllusion

RhazhBash

(2):

androgybee

, Shisou

androgybee

(1):

Soren

Ranger

(1):

RhazhBash

randomidget

(1):

Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Official Vote Count

Soren

(3): MagnaofIllusion, Fire Assassin,

randomidget

randomidget

(2):

Soren

,

RhazhBash

Fire Assassin

(1): Ranger

Not Voting

(2):

Dwlee

,

THOR665

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Soren

(5): MagnaofIllusion,

randomidget

, Ranger,

Dwlee

,

THOR665

randomidget

(2):

RhazhBash

,

Soren

MagnaofIllusion

(1): Fire Assassin

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Thor665]

Maybe I am just stuck in my reads?

Then...get better at the game?
I don't know how you want me to react to that sort of comment.
"Get unstuck! "

Does that help?
Seriously man, whut?

[Thor665]

When Ranger is scum, he became MoI

Ah well, still reads okay.

[Thor665]

Virtue's MoI investigate looks rather normal from that assessment, if he's town (though, I guess also if he's scum).
The MoI/Ranger scum team feels far more organic on the Soren wagon though.

@Fire - how hard was it to get the wagon on Soren? Were people arguing against it a lot or no?

[Thor665]

I also suppose that as a scumteam Fire/MoI isn't as impossible as it is for Fire/Virtue in my mind.
That said, their needling over the Fire Bringer thing doesn't feel like scum theatre to me, so I will ignore that setup as well.

[Thor665]

A Virtue/Dwlee team read leaves me feeling weird. Mostly I feel it doesn't jive as a read, but Rhaz hard townreading Scourge off of nothing but empty air when he was calling for the Vig shots makes my toes curl.

[Thor665]

I am pretty sure its not a Magna/Ranger combo.

If it's not Magna/Ranger then it would have to be Magna/Dwlee - which makes less sense to me.

Beyond stating vague things (e.g. oh they read town. I don't see that. It doesn't make sense) can you tell me why you don't see Ranger as Magna's partner?
Or why you think Dwlee makes more sense as the partner?

[Thor665]

So you are going with Dwlee as Magna's partner then - do you see any evidence to connect them?

[Thor665]

So basically a "trust me" on Ranger and a "Dunno" on Dwlee.
Kinda gotta "meh" that.

Why do you think Magna makes more sense as the scum of the pair again?

[Thor665]

Also, do you have a value call on why Rhaz town read Scourge?
That is a big stickler for me in town reading the Virtue slot.

[Thor665]

Rhaz play just doesn't make sense to me as scum. It was all over the place. I mean, yeah the whole "SHOOT NOW FIRE" was giving me scum vibes, and then them backing it up with a fake guilty, but also not voting, was weird. I mean, its just how scummy can a player actually act? It really really didn't make sense to me as scum play.

But he did a fakeclaim that was literally assured to get a player to vote you - then he claimed it as a reaction test.
Why would you reaction test someone you got a null investigation result on?
I can see scum not wanting to claim legit Watcher result, just in case, but I can't grok why town would freak on a null to the point of fakeclaiming on them.

[Thor665]

So basically a "trust me" on Ranger and a "Dunno" on Dwlee.
Kinda gotta "meh" that.

Why do you think Magna makes more sense as the scum of the pair again?

Tone wise, he is scummiest to me.

So "gut:.
Okay.
Thanks.

[Thor665]

But he did a fakeclaim that was literally assured to get a player to vote you - then he claimed it as a reaction test.
Why would you reaction test someone you got a null investigation result on?
I can see scum not wanting to claim legit Watcher result, just in case, but I can't grok why town would freak on a null to the point of fakeclaiming on them.

But why would scum fake claim and immediately back off? If he was dedicated to fake claim he would have voted them to back it up. Didn't happen. That shows he was trying to reaction test. You don't fake a guilty on someone and then not vote them, unless its not real.

I will happily agree with you that the fakeclaim backoff was a bad move for scum (it also is for town)
My point is - I can at least see a motivation for scum, I struggle to find one for town.

I hate playing mafia.

Remind me to stop forcing you to join games then?

Done, just decide for yourself. I am pro dodging till a lynch happens.

Gee, thanks.
I apologize for stressing you out by asking for reasons for any thoughts you have - my bad.

Hey Thor,

Common sense principle here. It's lylo right? Ranger has voted and unvoted my slot but done zero investigation here. Ranger hasn't discussed potential teams or anything. Their votes fit for the scumteam, their play is scummy. The only concern there is the claim looks good but not even the situation surrounding it looks good (I am referring to the they claimed second). When only the claim is good, you have long odds of it being true.

Hey Virtue,

Common sense principle here. It's lylo right? Fire Assassin has voted Magna's slot but done zero investigation here. Fire Assassin hasn't discussed potential teams or anything. Their and Virtue's votes fit for the scumteam, their and Virtue's play is scummy. The only concern there is the claim looks too bad to be false but not even the situation surrounding it looks townish (I am referring to the idea that the fake reactioned test-ed a null result by claiming a guilty in mylo). When nothing is good, you have long odds of it being true.

So...there's that.

more thinking actually

Why, what changed?

[Thor665]

You can keep rearranging the deck chairs, but you're never going to find me a suitable mate because I am not scum.

I did find you your mate, Dwlee - thank you for addessing my thoughts there.

Meh, almost wanna vote you for being a ponce.

Vote: MagnaofIllusion

Let's do this instead.
If I'm wrong I blame buying into ponce-dom as a town tell sometimes.
Also MoI for leaving me chatting with scum while he v/las

If I'm right then I take all the credit.

[Thor665]

Fire Assassin doesn't fit a scumteam partner, like I said many posts before.

I don't even know why you
re being such a ponce as to argue this with me - I've openly stated that I don't think he's your partner.
Are you a twit scum or a twit town?

[Thor665]

idk i just dont want to make a game-changing decision yet

And look at what I'm getting to work with from people, all while the Mod left a countdown running while we were stalled in a massclaim.
Fer realz.

[Thor665]

I want to vite virtue i think. Thor's vote reads like scum who think they can win from me hammering I think

I'm confirmed town - unless your theory is that I magically manufactued the mod to edit a post in which I claimed.
Are you serious right now?

Do we have to lynch magna or virtue? Like.. do we? I guess the investigative things ir whatever. But I kinda count as an investigative as well

1. You don't count as investigative enough.
2. Yes, we are lynching in the 50/50 we've been discussing, if you wanted to lynch in the other 50/50 you should have said so while we had a few days, not a few hours left in the phase.
3. With my role, a living cop is a good thing, don't derp.

[Thor665]

In this game, I'm pretty sure that means either a Virtue lynch, MoI lynch without me, or a no-lynch, but it cannot be helped.

If you're town - you've handed scum the ability to avoid a lynch for this phase.
Unamused.

[Thor665]

So pretty much it's between Ranger and Dwlee to my mind.

@Dwlee -how come I shouldn't take all that sloppiness at the end of the day as desperation to avoid the Magna lynch and try to set up an alternate wagon?

[Thor665]

*trying

[Thor665]

I'm actually mildly sad that MoI is a wonky ninja, because it prevents it from being open and shut today.

[Thor665]

So, here's reality;

Virtue

(3):

androgybee

, Ranger,

Fire Assassin

androgybee

(2):

randomidget

,

Soren

Soren

(1):

MagnaofIllusion

Ranger

(1):

Virtue

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

===================================================================

Soren

(3): Ranger,

randomidget

,

MagnaofIllusion

Virtue

(2):

androgybee

,

Fire Assassin

androgybee

(1):

Soren

Ranger

(1):

Virtue

randomidget

(1): Dwlee

Not Voting

(1):

THOR665

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Official Vote Count

Soren

(3):

MagnaofIllusion

,

Fire Assassin

,

randomidget

randomidget

(2):

Soren

,

Virtue

Fire Assassin

(1): Ranger

Not Voting

(2): Dwlee,

THOR665

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
===================================================================

Soren

(5):

MagnaofIllusion

,

randomidget

, Ranger, Dwlee,

THOR665

randomidget

(2):

Virtue

,

Soren

MagnaofIllusion

(1):

Fire Assassin

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Thor665]

That isn't screaming anything to me.

I will also state right now - I didn't get an antidote.
Anyone?

[Thor665]

oakysothedayisbecomingveryobnoxiousformemaybe?
Orisitjustbecomeobnoxiousforallofyou

Howisfirenotcleared?
Couldyoushowmewhereyouthinkyoupushed"superhard"onmagna?

[Thor665]

Imean,ifyourpushonMagnawassuperhardenoughtomakeyouobv.townthenFire'spushisOMGLOLWTFclearing,wouldn'tyousay?
HepushedwayharderthananyonebutVirtue.
HeckhemayhavepushedbetterthanVirtue

[Thor665]

@Ranger - unlessFiregotanantidotemethinksyouhavesomeexplainingtodo...

[Thor665]

Ihadforgottenthatutterderppress.
Iwillagreeitissomewhatsellingme.
YoRanger...comeoutandpla-yah!

[Thor665]

Iwassayingthatyourattackonhimwasprettysilly.Iwouldn'tholdthatupasaverystrongpush,butitwassosillythatitissortofsellingme.

[Thor665]

IamprettysurethatwasnotaslipbyMagnaregardlessofhisalingment.
Ialsodonotfindyourattackonhimparticularlybrilliant.
Thatsaid,waitingtohearfromRangeratthispoint.
Iwannaknowwhohetargeted.

[Thor665]

I'm pretty pissed off at ZZZX for not protecting me night 1.

I will admit, I have no idea why he didn't.

[Thor665]

I can't argue with that.