Micro 620: Anything uPick (Game Over)

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: creature
So skiddish

[KuroiXHF]

So Florestan chose to be Bill Cosby.

I kind of already want to vote you.

[KuroiXHF]

Mhm, I remember. Not exactly my best game. Why don't you want to talk about flavor?
Flor, could I get a translation of why you voted me?
Kuroi, any thoughts?

I don't understand what you're asking of me. You want to know why Florestan would want to vote you?
Why would I know that?

[KuroiXHF]

Nothing alignment indicative. Florestan's flavor pisses me off, but that's about it.

[KuroiXHF]

I see that Something_Smart's role is a procrastinator.

Hey now, my access in the evenings is mostly mobile, and VCs are a royal pain to do on mobile. Don't go jumping to conclusions.

[KuroiXHF]

Mod, you know I love you. <3

Of course...who doesn't?

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Apricity

Can you guess who I am?

That question does have a town-vibe to it.

I meant flavor. Anyway, I am not, but feel free to think so. Hmph.

This one - not so much.

Also, that question was not for you. It was for Frozen Angel.

Okay, so FA, you probably know something I don't. If she is obvtown, it's probably only to you.

[KuroiXHF]

Are you in RVS, Creature?

[KuroiXHF]

Are you in RVS, Creature?

No, I am not.

What has he done that was AI?

[KuroiXHF]

Because you don't know what to make of his flavor role, but that tends to be much less scum-based. I say we push someone else.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: House

I seem to think he's least likely to be town from his meta.

[KuroiXHF]

Yeah. I'm definitely keeping my vote here.

Preview Edit - You won't get your answer by asking that. I also don't really find that a townie would ask that. I do think that someone pretending to be a townie would ask that.

[KuroiXHF]

Apricity is at L-1.

This is my intent that I may very well hammer.

[KuroiXHF]

Why not? Why wouldn't the mod answer that?

Because the answer is obvious and it would be improper for the mod to divulge any information.

[KuroiXHF]

A claim is necessary.

[KuroiXHF]

Does it say anywhere that post restrictions aren't allowed in uPicks? I haven't played in one before so if there was a rule like that I wasn't aware of it.

Claim in your next post or I will hammer.

Fact of the matter is it looks like someone trying to be town. I don't believe you were doing this for information's sake.

[KuroiXHF]

Why are we the worst town you've ever seen?

[KuroiXHF]

So should we force someone else to claim their role now?

Yes. Go on ahead.

[KuroiXHF]

You'd be wasting your night action by killing me anyway.

[KuroiXHF]

*trying to kill me

[KuroiXHF]

I'm convinced that Apricity is town, which is why I didn't hammer. It's not the claim but how she reacted after frozen angel got off her. (Giggity) she continted it in a genuine way

[KuroiXHF]

If I was scum with her, I would hammer for town points

[KuroiXHF]

Apricity, I just wanted to let you know now that I'm on a computer that I don't regret placing my intent. After I saw that question to the mod, you pinged me hardcore.

I would have done it all over again.

[KuroiXHF]

Mm, okay. I don't think we'll be able to see eye to eye on the issue. I'm going to make a salad.

I hope you put vegetables in your salad because some people don't carrot all about scum hunting.

But please, lettuce know your thoughts.

[KuroiXHF]

I disagree with your second point.... ehhhh, possibly on your third.

Preview Edit - Apricity - Up until recently, the only vegetables in my salad was lettuce. It would be filled with cheese, grilled chicken, croutons and dressing.

[KuroiXHF]

As great as those are, it still sounds like a boring salad What about your reads?

My biggest scum read is House. I'll do a full read list soon.

[KuroiXHF]

His explanation means squat to me.

[KuroiXHF]

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Florestan, Yume, Apricity, Shadow Step (Stronger Town >>>>> Weaker Town gradient.)
Null/Unsorted/No Opinion At This Time: Ranger, Creature, Frozen Angel
Lean Scum: House
Strong Scum:

I don't like this read list because I have way too many lean towns and null/unsorteds and not enough lean scum.

It should be more diversified later.

[KuroiXHF]

Because I'm more suspicious in a game where I'm supposed to be suspicious. The way it usually works for me is that if there are two scum, I tend to suspect three to four people.

If there are two scum, like in most micro games, I only suspect one. Which means someone I'm null reading or town reading is scum.

That is not good. But like I said, the more I interact, the more I make up my mind.

[KuroiXHF]

@Mod: V/LA. Possibly back by Sunday. Definitely by Monday,

[KuroiXHF]

Why did Florestan go Bill Cosby up until this page and then did nothing after?

[KuroiXHF]

Back on a working computer! May or may not be able to catch up tonight.

[KuroiXHF]

FYI: I went back a couple pages trying to see where I need to start catching up and also what the last vote count was and I noticed a couple things:

1. House kept going around and voting everyone. He holds onto the vote like he's playing hot potato. It's a bit unsettling, but I'll read it and see if it makes sense.
2. I don't think we have an updated vote count. Mod, please?

Edited in to pagetop. Numbers and ordering are terrible but all votes should be right.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm asking for your involvement so I can ask questions about them and read you guys.

Its not working vise versa for me.

and I kind of asked you guys to involve more? what should I do to make you get involved? dance?

"Hey gaiz plz post" = lazy busywork

We're on d1, surely you don't know exactly why everybody said everything they did, already? Why not ask for clarification on ambiguous posts, if you want more involvement? Why not ask for reasons on reads even if you think you already know the answer? The answer given might surprise you and give you something work with.

I agree with House here.

my push on Apricity was becuase of the whole post restriction conversation thing and I will do the same if you put me in the same situation. I don't consider activity AI - ever - and I completly suck in reading lurkers. if you can read them then good for you.

Wait. I thought you

didn't

push Apricity.

VOTE: Yume

I want this resolved.

Okay, so you don't think Frozen Angel is scum?

VOTE: Frozen Angel

I'm good with going back to this.

Oh. Guess not.

I still think Yume is obviously town

I'm beginning to think you town read Yume for flavor reasons.

You know what? You wanted me to shoot you so I will, rather than have you spout a rubbish about how I am scum while ignoring points that don't support that theory.

Shoot: House

This is the worst reaction test I've ever seen.

Squirm more, scum. You failed to pass my test.

...yep. Part of me thinks you're bad town.

Yume's role is tailor made for Traitor, who is part of group scum but not in the scum PT. The Traitor has to help scum mislynch town and drive wagons away from buddies,

which is hard to do when they don't know who their buddies are

.

So the Traitor has to hunt scum, but for scummy reasons.

Neighborizing scum allows the Traitor to communicate with their scum team and gives 2 members of scum day talk.

After the Traitor neighborizes their scum mate, they can use their second ability to kill a town PR by drawing night actions, furthering the scum win con.

Yume admitted to being a loner. Know who else is a loner? The Traitor.

If I remember right, this game isn't bastard. Which means that, according to the wiki, a traitor should know the identities of all the scum. That aside, I still don't like your push on Yume simply for flavor/role reasons. Even if she is the traitor, town can win without lynching the traitor as long as they catch all the groupscum. Why are you focusing so much on her when she's basically harmless as long as no one visits her?

The hell? Why are we bringing traitor into this? And who has ever heard of a traitor vig?

If she's town and we lynch her, we've lost a townie. If you're right that she's scum traitor and we lynch her, we're still no closer to our wincon which would be eliminating the groupscum. No one visiting her = no one dying because of her. You're focusing on a lesser priority right now, and the potential harm outweighs the benefits here.

Do you have other scumreads?

It's over explaining like this which makes me consider you scum all over again.

FYI: I went back a couple pages trying to see where I need to start catching up and also what the last vote count was and I noticed a couple things:

1. House kept going around and voting everyone. He holds onto the vote like he's playing hot potato. It's a bit unsettling, but I'll read it and see if it makes sense.
2. I don't think we have an updated vote count. Mod, please?

It's my process, get used to it.

By the way, you should vote Yume.

Because you want her dead, right?

I like my vote where it is.

[KuroiXHF]

The question about traitor wasn't directed at merely you. It was directed to basically everyone.

[KuroiXHF]

Yume's role is tailor made for Traitor, who is part of group scum but not in the scum PT. The Traitor has to help scum mislynch town and drive wagons away from buddies, which is hard to do when they don't know who their buddies are.

So the Traitor has to hunt scum, but for scummy reasons.

Neighborizing scum allows the Traitor to communicate with their scum team and gives 2 members of scum day talk.

After the Traitor neighborizes their scum mate, they can use their second ability to kill a town PR by drawing night actions, furthering the scum win con.

Yume admitted to being a loner. Know who else is a loner? The Traitor.

Apricity, House mentioned a killing role - which is where I got the vig from. Traitors are rarely ever combined with killing powers.

[KuroiXHF]

This game is much too small for a traitor role unless the mafia group is smaller, but I still won't buy into that this early in the game.

[KuroiXHF]

And I did read well enough - enough to know I had to ask a question...

[KuroiXHF]

Which you wouldn't have needed to ask if you had in fact read properly =.=

FA, I haven't tried searching up the image myself, hold on...

Here's the interesting thing about questions. You can read something properly and not understand it. Your brain does not work the same way that my brain works and therefore, does not process the information it the same way.

That's why I asked a question: to clarify.

Want to stop asking mundane questions and start... uh, y'know - being useful?

[KuroiXHF]

More or less, yeah. I still think traitor is a long shot.

[KuroiXHF]

You're giving me no reason to go off you and onto someone else.

[KuroiXHF]

You're giving me no reason to go off you and onto someone else.

Do I look like i want you to?

You're doing a disservice, whether you're town or scum. If you don't care about your life, neither should I.

Hammer him.

[KuroiXHF]

But he looks town.

he is doing pure ATE

its absoloutly NAI and pissing me off

Agreed. He's basically throwing a bluff and seeing if we'll call it.

Damn right I will.

[KuroiXHF]

Or how about this:

If you really care about your own life in this game, play it.

If not, hammer yourself.

[KuroiXHF]

Frozen Angel, please hammer on House. He obviously doesn't want to be here.

[KuroiXHF]

how you dare come in here and end the day like that without stating intent

I didn't pick up scum vibes from that. And I majorly think that requiring an intent is stupid and silly.

[KuroiXHF]

Who the hell is Johnny Blaze? That's lame.

[KuroiXHF]

Currently leaning on:

VOTE: Ranger

(Ranger is hated, so it takes 3 votes to lynch her)

Thanks for bringing that up because I forgot about that, but you did bring her to L-2 already.

Any reason behind this?

[KuroiXHF]

Eh, you already answered that.

I disagree, but whatever.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm going to congratulate Yume for actually sticking with her vote, even if she is wrong.

I'm going to go back, re-read and find some more scum. I don't remember if I liked Creature in Day one, but I don't like him now.

[KuroiXHF]

Looks like I didn't have any opinion of Creature in the beginning of the day. When I went to review, the only thing that stood out was this:

But he looks town.

he is doing pure ATE

its absoloutly NAI and pissing me off

Agreed. He's basically throwing a bluff and seeing if we'll call it.

Damn right I will.

This is extremely weak evidence, but it shows that Creature didn't think that House was scum. Well, he's obviously right, but perhaps it could be seen as town credit by not going after who we know now as town.

As far as today, I don't like how Creature back-tracked and decided not to vote Ranger. I didn't like the circumstances why he unvoted and didn't stick through. There was no new information. Nothing. I mean, it's nothing so scummy I would vote him, but it gives me scum vibes.

[KuroiXHF]

I understand, but there was nothing that says Ranger is town and nothing that someone else is scummier - because if there had, there would be a vote on someone else.

[KuroiXHF]

Maybe they targeted the same person. Maybe we have a doctor that protected one of us. Maybe they tried to kill me. Maybe they no-killed. (Although unlikely.)

[KuroiXHF]

Sorry, I had to laugh at the absolutely identical sentence structure.

Do you see this as alignment indicative in any way?

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Creature

I changed my mind. I'm voting the scummiest person now. I'll probably keep this on unless someone scummier pops up or he's dead.

[KuroiXHF]

I've already explained it. I was going to wait and see, but the game isn't going to move forward by not voting.

You just seem upset.

[KuroiXHF]

You just seem upset.

And?

And I'd rather make you upset then by not doing my best to scum hunt.

[KuroiXHF]

...*THAN

Holy shit. My English is falling apart.

[KuroiXHF]

If it helps, I've played with Florestan's alt, Itlepip before.

He's scummy and lurks a lot, even as town.

[KuroiXHF]

I look at him the same way I look at everyone else.

[KuroiXHF]

no I got it, shadow is dead so we don't need to lynch him anymore, fineshotviggoodjobthereshameitwasn'tscumittotallycould'vebeennofaultofyoursthatitwasn'tbutIshouldprobablystopdoingthisthen

Anyway, why is Kuroi town

also ftr I do have a post restriction, its just that I didn't get to use it yesterday.

Why am I scum? You've only analyzed like two people so process of elimination is a poor choice.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Creature

I changed my mind. I'm voting the scummiest person now. I'll probably keep this on unless someone scummier pops up or he's dead.

I can see your creature vote basis. do you have other scum reads too?

I'm not so excited about Yume or you, but it's more of from a process of elimination.

[KuroiXHF]

Okay - now I definitely believe that you're not town more than I believe you're town.

[KuroiXHF]

Wait, Yume claimed vigilante. Are we really supposed to believe she's a vigilante AND a neighborizer?

And you claimed without any sort of pressure on you. I don't believe it's town-motivated at all.

I'm a lot more solidified in my reads now.

[KuroiXHF]

Spoiler:

You were planning to betray me, weren't you? You're a liar. *flails a big stick around* Don't try to act all friendly now, liar. If you try anything on me, I'll kill you, liar. I only trust one person and it ain't you. D:

(disclaimer: I don't mean any of the above, just a little roleplay in character)

Want me to shoot him? I can do that, y'know?

But.....I need someone to shoot. It's incorporated into my flavor.... D:

Like I said, it's incorporated into my flavor. Something about how I am a loner, so if someone approaches me, I have to shoot them if they won't get along with me.

Not a vig at all, right?

[KuroiXHF]

Don't think about anything personal at all this game. You have a job to do, and you should do it.

Anyways, I can buy a scum neighborizer, especially when they claim vigilante.

VOTE: Yume

[KuroiXHF]

oh fuck I see why you guys are confused. you just can't see all the info I have atm and I can't tell them in a way for you to understand without giving solid info to scum.

I was in a neighbourhood with player X during last night , player X shot shadow

I have a neighbourhood with Yume starting of Day 2 and she is the one who targeted me and opened that pt. she claimed she claimed the way she did in day 1 becuase she wanted to survive to make this neighbourhood with me becuase "she misses me" and I'm sure she won't lie about this personal feelings to me becuase I do miss her as well and we are freinds andI like her way more than I like anyone of you in this game [no offense just the truth]

but clearly this X and Yume are in counter positions and Yume crumbed that she will kill her freind and the neighbourhood we have together is named "friends pt"

I needed to out thi becuase her role might function in a way to auto kill the one she neighbours with a delay like a poisoner and thats why there was no mafia nightkill last night.

oh and player X is 90% conftown and 10% obvtown so I don't wanna out him for no reason

Okay, I do have some questions:

1. I'm guessing Yume isn't Player X?
2. Are you still with Player X?
3. So if we don't lynch either of you two, one of you will die?
3a. If so, why should we lynch you instead of her?
4. Ah, so Player X is a he. Okay, that makes things a bit easier.

[KuroiXHF]

3. You seemed to have made me believe that she was trying to kill you. Which, if that's the case, why would you two be neighbors?
3a. If one of you two had to die so the other wouldn't be killed, why would we protect you and not her?
4. I thought you slipped. I still may think that.

[KuroiXHF]

Ok, so to clarify - do you have any killing powers in this game?

[KuroiXHF]

He's voting me. He's definitely scum reading me. He's just not being transparent with the reason.

[KuroiXHF]

Out of the people currently voted, I'd vote Creature or Yume. I am curious about Florestan, though.

[KuroiXHF]

I had my vote on him until I switched to Yume.

[KuroiXHF]

I am unkillable

[KuroiXHF]

Lilith, so you're the new mod, huh? Impress me.

[KuroiXHF]

Probably, and pagetop!

[KuroiXHF]

Sounds fair enough. And Lilith, you're weak. <3

I'll respond to Florestan in an hour or two, when I get to work.

[KuroiXHF]

FA, are you saying it's unbalanced? That's why it makes no sense?

[KuroiXHF]

You picks are often rarely balanced, if at all. Obviously, we choose characters/things/people who are in a position of strength and the role as to translate that strength.

[KuroiXHF]

Two neighborizers isn't that unusual, but I expect a scum neighborizer.

Let's vote Yume, then.

[KuroiXHF]

And why are you so on board with that?

Because I don't get a town vibe from her. I think she's scum.

[KuroiXHF]

Apricity, what did you think of Creature's partial-claim?
Frozen Angel, why did you think of everyone claiming and potentially lying did you think Creature is?

[KuroiXHF]

Okay. Then someone else is scum. I know you want to deal with this when you're not tired, but please consider voting Yume.

[KuroiXHF]

Inventors lean town, and I'm willing to leave him alone for now.

[KuroiXHF]

So Apricity, why is your vote on Creature?

[KuroiXHF]

To respond to Florestan, whom I forgot about until now:

okay, what was the purpose of this, its RVS you don't have a read on anyone it looks like. You don't ask FA to clarify why Yume was obvtown. Its just kinda fluff.

I was making reads. It's useful to have both town and scum reads.

I mean I don't understand why pushing me was wrong there, you just kinda start chainsawing for me for no reason.

Sorry. I don't know what chainsawing is. Is that like scissoring, but more aggressive?

If you had done this you would easily be dead here, but even though you didn't what was the purpose of this? Was Apricity really that scummy that you didn't want the rest of the day to sort anyone else?

Apricity's play was shitty and I only feel confident to her reaction after I genuinely thought she thought she was dead.

You have no valid scumreads.

I know. I said I wasn't happy with that.

but you still have never explained why you townread me at all, it feels like you just chose me (and kinda shadow) to pocket even when it made no sense to do so.

I town-read you because post restrictions like that are very rarely ever from scum.

Explained this one. I thought I was your top town was 'bill cosbying' really that instrumental to your townread on me

Yes. Your play is shit.

None these are reads or probbing questions or analysis, just kind of stuff that you felt. You aren't building a town circle or pushing anybody, just kinda of commentating on stuff while the game moves closer to a random lynch.

You certainly don't lead by example.

Like this? It was a light comment and you are just kind of going through the motions even though it doesn't make any sense in this context.

My whole game is popular opinions, so no. I'm not going through the motions. Also, the italicized part is not a comment. It's a question.

Weren't you calling Yume town up until this point? Why would scumYume submit a night action that directly contradicted their claim in that case. This just feels like another lazy going through the motions instead of actually sitting down and analyzing the game.

I thought Yume was town because she became a believable vig. Now she's proven to be bullshiitting. There's no way I'm believing a killing neighborizer.

[KuroiXHF]

this setup makes no sense with these claims. pretty sure we have a lier around

This may be a game where massclaim is viable.

Definitely not. It won't say anything about role or alignment.

where is the townread on Kuroi coming from?

Me being town.

[KuroiXHF]

She's not.

[KuroiXHF]

Being clear is not a subjective term in Mafia. It's an objective one.

An innocent child is clear.
Someone who posts in a town-like manner is not clear.

That's not a statement of opinion. It's fact.

[KuroiXHF]

It's not like my posting is inhibiting his posting. He's fine to answer. I just choose to be active instead of let the game die.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Florestan

His flavor is a lie. He hasn't done it since his first couple of posts.

[KuroiXHF]

Fine enough. He's being useless, but he is talking about important things. He also did do his jumble on Thursday,

VOTE: Yume
And I suggest we all vote Yume.

[KuroiXHF]

Talking about important things aren't useless. However, the way you do it is. You're getting no results.

And Yume is lying, or at the best case, deceitful. He's not a neighborizer and a vig. Not while being town, anyway.

Your role may be confirmable, but your alignment is not.

I actually got lucky. I have more power this game than the mod does.

Preview Edit: LOL. Surface level? What more do you need to know?

[KuroiXHF]

Want me to shoot him? I can do that, y'know?

Oh, really?

[KuroiXHF]

You already voted me. Be useful and scum hunt, please.

[KuroiXHF]

Kuroi, why would scumYume even tell us that she's not actually a vig? I don't get your problem with her.

Because it's a good defense. Why would scum ever want to admit they've done something wrong? If you admit something wrong, you're without a defense and it invites people to scrutinize you. Admitting you're wrong means admitting to people that you may have been caught in a lie.

However, admitting it is a town action. Therefore, she's WIFOMing us.

[KuroiXHF]

And you're defending her.

[KuroiXHF]

Why don't you claim, since you're such a big fan of claiming?

[KuroiXHF]

I think maybe you should tell me someone who's scummier and why. Yume's the best lynch we have. God knows why.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm willing to believe Creature for now, but I'm not sold on Florestan.

[KuroiXHF]

How defensive - I meant I'm not sold on you being scum.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Ranger
Time to poke him. I'm fine lynching him right now.

[KuroiXHF]

People, can we please stop twiddling our thumbs?

[KuroiXHF]

Taking two seconds to scroll up would prove that he wasn't.

Are you going to even try this game?

[KuroiXHF]

He's at L-1. You didn't have to unvote. You tried taking pressure off him just to try to put pressure on him.

It makes no sense to me.

[KuroiXHF]

So you're too scared to be useful this game?

You can do better than this.

[KuroiXHF]

I kind of want to vote frozen angel now.

God damn it.

Btw mod, I'm v.LA starting tomorrow to Friday of the next week.

[KuroiXHF]

Look I hate Ranger's 'imma start playing when we get to potential lylo, but Kuroi's posts are all terrible

No. My posts are awesome and you love me.

[KuroiXHF]

Admit it. You love me. And my posts are awesome

[KuroiXHF]

Awwwww, I love you too! <3

I'm claiming. I'm God. I have a one shot rule to be made. I can't be night killed. I can only be lynched because something about God only having powers if the people believe in him.

[KuroiXHF]

I have nothing to lose by claiming. By the way the shipping is moving. I'll lose signal soon.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Ranger

You're either lying or not paying attention.

Btw, I'm back

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Yume

Why isn't she dead yet?

[KuroiXHF]

UNVOTE:

Wait. It's lylo.

[KuroiXHF]

Well, I lied. I am not just a neighborizer. I am macho neighborizer tracker. I think there's no point hiding this anymore, since it's do or die.

I don't believe any of this shit. No fucking way.

And what makes you think I am scum between us?

VOTE: Apricity

I am town, I guarantee it to you. However, if you want to lose, feel free to lynch me.

Telling me that you're town does nothing for me.

I'm asking you to unvote.this is lylo. never vote without intent

I disagree with that.

WTF were you guys doing here. Please don't vote in lylo.

Also why is Apricity's claim impossible with Yume? Because I don't really see it.

FA why did you jail Yume if you knew she was a tracker from your neighborhood?

And I don't see this as genuine.

Well, I can't shake off this feeling that you're scum using my personality to reel me in....

I agree, but Frozen Angel's threat to kill herself seems pretty out there. Enough for me to give her the benefit of the doubt that she's not that shitty as a person.

I want to hear more from Apricity but my current guess of scum is Yume and Florestan. Maybe Yume and Apricity.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm having a hard time imagining a world where you're town.

[KuroiXHF]

I want to hear everyone else's guesses for whom the remaining scum are.

[KuroiXHF]

Activating Godly abilities. I am God and God is good.

[KuroiXHF]

God damn it. I woke up, planning on using that because I thought Apricity voted me and brought me to L-1. I just re-read Yume voting me.

And I didn't see redacted in my role PM.

I kind of fucked my plan over. I thought I was an innocent child.

[KuroiXHF]

...again?
What?

[KuroiXHF]

I could also entertain a Uu,e and Frozen Angel team.

[KuroiXHF]

Tune

[KuroiXHF]

Fucking auto correct. You know who I mean

[KuroiXHF]

Misspelling, not mispronouncing, since we're typing and not speaking.

But for your information, I was taking a dump and on my iPad. Apple sucks.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm not sure who the second scum is, but I'm worried about first scum first.

Secondly, I'll look at the marathon when I can. Later on today. Just got to work.

[KuroiXHF]

So we vote Yume. Yes?

[KuroiXHF]

Also, I can't find any game in the Marathon forum, Yume, that redeems you. Which game should I look at?

[KuroiXHF]

Link me a game or I'm voting you now.

And you're doing nothing but telling me you're town. All your actions say I should lynch you.

And by the way, you notion is wrong. Town mislynches all the time.

[KuroiXHF]

True, but not in Lylo.

Yes. Townies have messed up before in lylo before. I have.

[KuroiXHF]

Are you going to really ask such a terrible like this? We all have to make decisions. Unless I've read your role PM, I can't know if you're scum. I only know by your actions, but your actions aren't making you appear to be town. And I AM giving you a chance. Give me a link. Stop wasting my time.

[KuroiXHF]

No. I'm asking for one.

[KuroiXHF]

Okay. This link actually confirmed your scumminess to me.

In that game, you lurked. Actually, to the point of having you being blacklisted by this mod. This game, you're extremely active.
That game, you were extremely defensive. This game, you're aggressive.
That game, you added NOTHING to conversation. This game, you were adamant about your points.

Other than your behavior, this was a complete 180. I understand that was an extremely quick game, but using your posts to say, "You didn't let me claim!" instead of actually claiming was just wasting time.

VOTE: Yume

[KuroiXHF]

It's a two-minute game, isn't it? You should have known better.

[KuroiXHF]

That link me brought me nowhere.

[KuroiXHF]

I've finished a good skim of Ircher's ISO as well as yours and I'll agree he's done a lot of mud slinging, but you haven't lied in that game. You have in this one.

And if you think I'm scum, vote me. You seem to be very certain.

Preview Edit: Your last post is a hypothetical that I'm not going to engage in. And I don't hate you. I don't know you. I'm merely acting on your behavior this game.

[KuroiXHF]

There are two votes on you. You're not lynched.

But you did do a good job at making me think you were lynched for a moment. I actually felt bad for a second.

I would have bought it if you didn't unvote me right after Florestan's vote.

[KuroiXHF]

But I am going to actually UNVOTE: right now, because I'm having second thoughts.

[KuroiXHF]

I would stop with that if I were you. Your entire defense seems to ring on the whole, "It's a coincidence."

I don't like that, and it makes me want to put my vote back onto you.

[KuroiXHF]

And your entire defense seems to be the repeat of 'Yume is scum, Yume is scum, Yume is scum'.

I'm not defending myself. You're the one who's at the chopping block.

VOTE: Yume

Tell us everything. I want to know your character. Your role. Every piece of it.

[KuroiXHF]

UNVOTE:

Good start. I take issue with "one or more town remain" because you have to have two town to win a game. Next, what happened to your killing powers?

[KuroiXHF]

That actually makes sense, since I lied about being unkillable. As you can tell from my PM, my role has a bunch of goodies. I want to use them all.

I think I'm done with you at this present moment. I want to hear more from Florestan. Florestan's agreement with me seemed too easy and it rubbed me the wrong way.

[KuroiXHF]

I need to look back at your ability, but it's not true that you've town read me for days. Yesterday, you've been thinking I've been scum. I've had to use my ability to pacify you and make you tell me that you love me. I mean, I agree Yume is probably scum, but we have time on the clock.

[KuroiXHF]

In my eyes, you more or less check out. Which means it's 2/3 in Yume, Apricity and Frozen Angel.

And to clarify, you consider Yume as 100% chance to be scum?

Who's the other scum? I think, given the time, we need to continue asking questions. I generally have a hard time gauging when Frozen Angel, which worries me, and I also don't like Apricity's play so far. The only thing that ever seemed genuine to me from her is when she was angry when she thought she was lynched. I thought she was lynched and she said she was too, but she could be lying about that.

My current guess is Yume/Frozen Angel, but I could be wrong about the latter.

[KuroiXHF]

Okay:

Everyone - Who are the two scum?

[KuroiXHF]

Oh fuck I looked up Motion Detector and it was different than I thought. Okay my role is modified universal action detector. I get a positive result from anyone who I chain to and submits and action. I'm saying that if scum did NK Shadow it wasn't Kuroi unless he is a ninja.

...VOTE: Florestan

[KuroiXHF]

Fine.

UNVOTE:

I still don't see myself voting outside of either Florestan or Yume, but I do think it's one or the other - not both.

[KuroiXHF]

Wait a second, I forgot something. Flor, Creature sent me an ability N1. Why didn't he show up on your list? You should have gotten everyone who submitted an action right?

I doubt this. This could potentially be scum tactics to put Florestan on the chopping block.

[KuroiXHF]

Florestan, not sure if I misread. Is Fix it Felix your flavor?

[KuroiXHF]

wait a minute the list you sent was your action result?

cuase Its wrong obviously. for first I never targeted anyone that night.

for second it had kuroi name. you never mentioned it was your action results I thought it was your town reads then cuase you said you want to lynch shadow and ranger in next line.

wtf is this

VOTE: Floor

Floor Jansen

[KuroiXHF]

?

[KuroiXHF]

Apricity, thoughts on Yume?

[KuroiXHF]

Unofficial Vote Count

Yume (1)- Florestan
Florestan (2)- Apricity, Yume


Not voting (4)- KuroiXHF, Frozen Angel

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.


^ So I can keep track of myself.

[KuroiXHF]

Apricity, I'll ask again. I know you'd rather lynch Florestan than Yume, but how do you view Yume? Is she Florestan's partner or not?

Preview Edit: I also find it interesting that Yume is insistent on me being scum. I really have to think about this.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm not going to make this decision at this moment. I called out sick for work. I'll take a nap and I'll probably come back better prepared.

[KuroiXHF]

Yume is obvtown. just sayin

she is like the easiest person to read if you know her enough.

Why isn't this true anymore?

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Yume

[KuroiXHF]

It's nothing personal. I'm going by level of likelihood and the lies, while well intentioned, made me distrustful of you. Also reading through it, I find a low likelihood of Apricity being scum. It's mostly a decision of if I was voting you or Frozen Angel.

[KuroiXHF]

I shall not be moves by threats. I've heard enough of those.

[KuroiXHF]

It's not a threat, it's a promise. Or do you want me to post my role PM to prove to you what you should have realized by yourself. If you are town, you're playing against your win condition right about now and that's a bannable offense on this site.

Well you're lynched now. Report me.

[KuroiXHF]

Fuck.

[KuroiXHF]

lmao Kuroi

Didn't you notice you received something and Flor didn't point it out?

He did report it.

Fuck.

Reported. >.>

Have fun with that.

[KuroiXHF]

For what it's worth, Yume, I didn't know you're town and it's down right stupid to accuse me of cheating because I didn't think you were honest in a game of deception.

You're better off stop being so emotional in these games. I mostly voted you because you appeared to be banking on me being moved by your threats.

[KuroiXHF]

You deserved this loss, Yume.

[KuroiXHF]

You deserved this loss, Yume.

Well, I went through with it. I am not normally like this, but in the face of this, even I have to. Sorry, but playing against wincon is reportable and I am a good citizen.

I didn't play against my win condition if I had reason to believe you were scum. If you were honest and didn't make threats, I probably would have voted elsewhere.

[KuroiXHF]

The thing that upsets me is that I would have used my redirector ability on FA that night.

Yume, you may be honest but you are wrong.

[KuroiXHF]

which night?

I f flor was getting lynched I wouldn't cast a night kill tonight

The night that would have happened after if we didn't lose.

[KuroiXHF]

Flor did slipped IN very very very very obvious ways.

he basically even slipped me as his partner just sayin

He did slip very obviously and I'm disappointed that Kuroi didn't see that.

I felt bad but with Yume, I thought there were three scum. Florestan acted like it was an honest mistake so I looked back to Yume who was running like a chicken without a head

[KuroiXHF]

I did. I went with the one I felt was most likely.

[KuroiXHF]

also kuroi your lie about being bp actually lynched a confirmed town

just sayin

How so?