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Post #232 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:57 am
Postby Ircher »
In post 179, gameplay506 wrote:Ye Menno I am not very satisfied but your answers make sense and aren't anything scummy(nor towny lol)
Still a null.
Liking the Ari wagon. Is it L-1 or?
Anyway I agree with Rhazh VOTE: Thenewearth
Scummy wording.
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Post #233 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:59 am
Postby Ircher »
In post 181, thenewearth wrote:Can we just get the fact that gameplay has done nothing but sheep all day?
+1, also weird word choice that sounds like something that scum would be saying rather than town (fence-sitting is the vibe I get, but not just that, but try to get any wagon to work that looks possible; no effort to attempt to scumhunt)
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Post #236 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:04 am
Postby Ircher »
In post 224, gameplay506 wrote:Earth menno get back to newbies ty
You are taking those wagons way too seriosuly. Like I even made it obvious I myself wasn't serious about them. Unless you come up with a better reason stfu and gtfo
And thats the problem -- You dont care what wagon you are on and what happens to them as long as you aren't getting lynched.
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In post 224, gameplay506 wrote:Earth menno get back to newbies ty
You are taking those wagons way too seriosuly. Like I even made it obvious I myself wasn't serious about them. Unless you come up with a better reason stfu and gtfo
And thats the problem -- You dont care what wagon you are on and what happens to them as long as you aren't getting lynched.
exactly
why should I care I am town
Scum dont care avout sorting people; they simply care if they can get away with a lynch.
Town should care about actually scumhunting rather than "reaction-testing" with results that are just basically OMGUS and similar.
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In post 66, gameplay506 wrote:Calm ur tits menno I was testing this one
Sheesh VOTE: Menno
In post 104, gameplay506 wrote:I am having fun atm and actually wagoning on purpose and you are coming here calling me jester scum and whatnot just because you can't really be useful in another way
here eat another vote VOTE: Menno
now do something about it and fight me
why am I scum
In post 179, gameplay506 wrote:Ye Menno I am not very satisfied but your answers make sense and aren't anything scummy(nor towny lol)
Still a null.
Liking the Ari wagon. Is it L-1 or?
Anyway I agree with Rhazh VOTE: Thenewearth
The only thing you have achieved with your reaction tests btw is getting people to claim roles. Role fishing can be null, but in this instance, your condescent, borderline apathetic (?; probably wrong way to describe it) attitude along with the fact that youdont care at all about who you vote and claim its reaction testing yet not giving any useful information on why one reaction is scummy or not, etc. makes me think that the role fishing is also scum-motivated. Note how subtle you are being about it too; that adds to my opinion.
Start playing the game as town, or eat rope.
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Post #253 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:16 pm
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You're the VI/Scum; you are the one refusing to give town any info.... Why? Cuz you are scared of being made fun of? What idiotic reason is that for not sharing reasons for reads or results from reaction testing?
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Post #256 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:21 pm
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In post 255, gameplay506 wrote:If we are going to talk about people not sharing info you have stuck your head in your ass and you have basically only talked about me soo
You're the main one I have a read on.
I didnt like the earlier wagons as I saw little to no case for them; they seemed haphazard and rushed.
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Pedit: Why exactly am I obliged.to share my in depth thoughts? Lel
I am sharing info but I guess you want me.to write a 3 page essay on "Why Menno's wagon sucked and so did his answers". Lel.
.... See below....
In post 48, gameplay506 wrote:O goodie menno is still an idiot
Put rhazh on L-1 for the fun of it
Null. Also probably inaccurate, but dont quote me on that as I didn't fact check.
In post 102, McMenno wrote:I mean, for rhazbash, a little newer player, I can kind of understand this behavior from a scum point of view, but I can't see gameplay, someone with over 4000 in-game posts and more than two years of experience, being so blatant.
Can someone with more experience with gameplay weigh in?
So you think I am
not scum?
lel
wtf
Scum-claim.....^
In post 104, gameplay506 wrote:I am having fun atm and actually wagoning on purpose and you are coming here calling me jester scum and whatnot just because you can't really be useful in another way
here eat another vote VOTE: Menno
now do something about it and fight me
why am I scum
This implies jester tbh. Still trolling and otherwise not saying anything useful.
In post 179, gameplay506 wrote:Ye Menno I am not very satisfied but your answers make sense and aren't anything scummy(nor towny lol)
Still a null.
Liking the Ari wagon. Is it L-1 or?
Anyway I agree with Rhazh VOTE: Thenewearth
Doesnt really tell us much.
So, yes, I expect a 3 page essay on your reads if only because that will help me better understand where you are at.
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Post #259 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:28 pm
Postby Ircher »
And note that the WHY or HOW is often more important than the WHAT; scumtells dont work as both town and scum do them; you gotta analyze motives for actions, and your motives currently line up with Jester, otherwise scum.
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I know I told you I wouldn't, but whatever.
Wanna claim or...?
Don't like the votes. Also his total disregard of me being his neighbor just doesnt sit well with me. I mean I myself avoided his wagon just for the sake of figuring him out in the PT yet he totally doesn't give a fuk and goes on hopping on my wagon putting me on L-1(2?) without even remotely trying to interact with me.
In post 142, Aristophanes wrote:There is literally nothing to this wagon. What am I supposed to do but laugh?
His reactions when people firstly started suspecting him.
I think they are pretty off.
More on the neighbor thing - he just isn't using the advatage of it as a town player would. Tbh he even asked me a couple of times about my role which I found pretty suspicious.
Finally something!
UNVOTE: Gameplay
I'm gonna finish catching up.
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In post 345, RhazhBash wrote:Haven't looked much into you honestly. You're mostly just on the list because I'm not Townreading you as hard as Dwlee or gameplay. I still think it's either TNE or Ircher as the partner.
Right, Ircher is
in this game...
He has about 22 posts, but I haven't felt his presence, like at all. not feeling good about that.
Been fairly busy lately and this thread has been kinda slow.
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I'm not discounting the chance one or both are scum, but my intuition says that based on the setup so far, there is a good chance both are town.
It's setup spec reasons cuz I think the game may be reasonably balanced even if not completely, the flavor DOES suggest they share the same alignment, and town feels REALLY WEAK right now.
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Post #390 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:04 am
Postby Ircher »
One thing that I see in Earth's posts is a tone that suggests Earth wants to be done with the day asap (Earth seems keen on a quicklynch), yet I see practically no content concerning where his reads stand and why.
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Post #523 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:03 am
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The interesting thing is the no kill though -- Yes, I fakeclaimed vig (for good reasons), but that means whoever performed the nk was blocked or the nk target was protected.
I also think it's reasonable to assume town doesn't actually have a vig in this game.
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Tbqh, if there was a vig, I'd think they would recognize the play as a gambit, even if poorly thought out, and would risk not shooting them in the vig in question is 1-Shot.
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Post #574 (isolation #55) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:03 pm
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Spoiler: Ari ISO - August 4 - D2
1. 83 - Talks about lolhammering and Rhazh coming out town -
Lolhammer? How would that been a pro-town move at the time? I think I'm kinda missing the context here though... Also, explain how Rhazh came out town for self-voting (I've been immediately scumread 100% of the times I've self-voted) -
Full confession right there! While I agree the wagon was bad, how do you expect to be townread by doing nothing? -
Scummish (-1)
Oh wow, I see a lot of fluff and joking around in this ISO (and setup spec), biut not too much pf anything useful. Active lurking.... That's a good way to put it.
Still, I have my reservations here, so...... I'll just go with Leaning Scum in the hopes that Ari will start actually doing stuff rather than laugh, setup spec, role fish, and otherwise be useless.
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Umm.... I'm not sure how that exactly confirms Dwlee as scum. Maybe it's more often scum-aligned, but as either alignment, you have to claim hated to avoid being lynched, and evaluating such a factor alone as a scum claim is over the top. Nonetheless, I don't see why scum in their right minds would make such a comment, so I'm just going with -
Null
2. 25 - Suddenly become is glad Dwlee claimed (???) -
What even..... 19 posts ago, you were calling it a scum claim and then all of the sudden, you changed your mind?! That just doesn't add up; what's up with the inconsistency????? -
Scummy
3. 302 and 314 - Doesn't think an Ari lynch is good D1 in 302, then flip-flops and votes Ari in 314 -
Explain this sudden flip-flop please. Thanks. -
Scummy
McMenno sure does seem to contradict himself a good bit this game... It's hard to tell where his reads are as a result.... McMenno - Readslist and why please & ty.
As far as scum or town, I'm leaning towards scum cuz of the inconsistencies yet I also think I might be looking too surface level which makes me kinda want to go with town for McMenno. I guess I'll just go with Neutral leaning scum, but
FoS: McMenno
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I don't care if that's just for lulz; in every game I've played, self-voting is considered the ultimate scum tell so I'm not letting you slip by with it. In all honesty though, the self-vote isn't too bad given the context, but why did you let yourself risk getting lolhammered by scum? -