Micro 636: Green Day UPick (Game Over)

[Zaphkael]

VOTE: on the prowl

The consequences of my role should be mentioned as well. I am a role obscurer. When someone dies, only their alignment will flip. Up to you to decide wether it's a good or a bad thing. I'm the song "Ha ha you're dead". I may or may not have a second role to compensate.
I just couldn't resist.

Why do you have 5 posts in a row with no content so early?

Isn't it always that there is little to discuss early on?

[Zaphkael]

Yes, my role automatically obscures all flipped roles, not alignments.
I claimed because I don't see the pro-town in it. It is often a scum role, and claiming it later on would only seal my lynch.

I also very much dislike the vote on me because of it. Why is claiming something that seems anti-town to me scummy?

[Zaphkael]

So say someone is Town Cop (not making a claim here just using as an example), if you used your power thingy it would flip as town but the cop part would be obscured is that correct?

Just want to make sure I parsed that correctly?

Spoiler: What is this?

[Zaphkael]

And you claiming is problematic because if you are town, scum won't want to NK you because of the utility your role gives them. If you're town, proper play would be to not claim, town it up, and get NK'd. As scum, you claiming this early tries to give you a look like you're being open and helping town while also giving a reason why you won't be NK'd

How about let's say what has been said before we make any assumptions, shall we?

I may or may not have a second role to compensate.

I softed something and i won't reveal more. Because claiming THAT would be anti town.

[Zaphkael]

"Ha ha you're dead". is the song he claimed for obscurer plus he soft claimed something else he did not want reveal because it would be anti town to do so

Yes i claimed that song. (Boulevard of broken dreams was my second pick lmao)
Could we move on to more relevant topics? I once got a strongman for a guy with a youtube channel where is the relevance in that?

[Zaphkael]

Also RH is probably a bad lynch for right now, near as I can tell we absolutely must lynch the obscurer role ASAP, so I nominate today to be that day.

Because of my role? I could agree with that.
I very much dislike you suddenly wanting to lynch me for my role only after RH is starting to get wagoned.
I think my vote sits well here.

In post 74, Titus wrote:
This claiming thing is a little wierd. I'm beginning to think everyone might have an ability though that's partially negative utility depending on circumstances.


Me too, almost 100% the more people chime in.

Maybe that's because 2 people claimed negative utility?

[Zaphkael]

There are lyrics in my role pm
To not explicitly quote them ill include the whole verse

Spoiler: lyrics

Ha Ha you're dead
The joke is over
You were an asshole
And now you're gone
As your ship is going down
I'll stand by and watch you drown

Pedit: lynching because it might be bad IS a policy lynch.
Pedit 2: bullshit.

[Zaphkael]

Do you seriously expect scum!me to fakeclaim something at the start of the game and not looking for a song that fits the flavor?
I might be newer than you but I'm not an idiot.

[Zaphkael]

hey that was Jiffy not me ok I want horse dude.

No he said your claim and song lyrics did not match that means he is scum reading you based on claim stuff not because of policy.

will talk with him tonight after work.


(right cat)

Nah this game hasnt stalled, youre just scum
Id love to lynch this or something else

[Zaphkael]

hey that was Jiffy not me ok I want horse dude.

No he said your claim and song lyrics did not match that means he is scum reading you based on claim stuff not because of policy.

will talk with him tonight after work.


(right cat)

Nah this game hasnt stalled, youre just scum
Id love to lynch this or something else

I think On The Prowl is just town voting badly.

Vote Titus instead.

I can understand why people would vote me, they're not voting badly.
I can't understand the reason they are voting me, the reasons for their vote is shit.

Why would titus be a better vote?

[Zaphkael]

Since this is rachmarie
On the prowl could actually be town.

VOTE: RH

Let's move this game.

[Zaphkael]

Since this is rachmarie
On the prowl could actually be town.

VOTE: RH

Let's move this game.

Wtf is this shade? You're implying OTP has bad play? Quad posts are annoying but not AI. Why are you implying OTH is anti-town but it's OK because Rachmarie?

Now please don't put words in my mouth. I was the person who said multiple posts are NAI, read my ISO.
I also never said OTP is being anti-town, I'm saying that lynching me is fine, but not for their reason.
They seem to believe I am scum because my flavor does not exactly match my ability.

Yet I know Rach is like that. In presidential mafia, she tried to prove a VT claim by telling everyone the whole history of Hillary Clinton.


Why do you believe I'm trying to throw shade?

[Zaphkael]

I assumed the same.

@TTH: VLA until monday. My apologies.

[Zaphkael]

Now we are talking.
You scumread me. Could jiffy talk to me himself and tell me why? Gut alone is a bit dangerous isn't it?
If you give decent reasoning I can actually tell you why you are wrong.

Until then,
@RH, what are your reads, if any?

[Zaphkael]

If the mod tells you it's fine she might have a reason to do so.
Anyway.
Ha Ha you're dead
The joke is over
You were an asshole
And now you're gone

[Zaphkael]

Anti-town role is not a scum role.
@Titus the vote on OTP was rvs. You stating that my read progression is terribke, is therefore wrong.
I know rachmarie, and i know this is her town behaviour.

VOTE: Kop
You can lynch me today, but lynch kop tomorrow.
PE is town, OTP is town, RM is town.
Titus is null, CO is null, RH is null, ASP is null
Kop is scum

[Zaphkael]

Now stop scumpainting please.

You aren't scum for voting me. You are scum for your reasoning.
For you im scum because:
-My role isnt pro-town
-The mod had a rather hard time keeping balance yet keeping lyric relevance.

I scumread you for conveniently hopping on, trying to scumpaint me, a fake tone and some reasoning about having you as a counterwagon that just cant come from town. 2 players arent a wagon. If i wanted a wagon i would vote titus.

If i followed your reasoning, you are scum protecting your scumbuddy titus because now im her counterwagon. SCUM!
I hope you see how terrible that reasoning is.

[Zaphkael]

Hey titus

Could you make a decent case on me?
So far I heard I'm scum because my role favors scum and because my lyrics don't fit. Even for a complete newb that would be a terrible case.
Try again and give me something decent.
Thank you.

[Zaphkael]

@ Zaph is your role compulsive, in other words will it automatically force us to have the roles obscured, or is it something you can control and basically not use so we get accurate flips?

Are you serious about this? What is the point of adding an anti-town role if you choose when to use it?

"You are a hated townie but please, choose when you want to use it!"

It's passive. Always active as long as I live. I thought that was clear.

[Zaphkael]

Sorry had to ask I have never dealt with this role before,

uggh

so basically you f*** over town just by existing?

Yes.

Which is why I don't mind being lynched for that, but I do mind being lynched for 'being scummy' when I'm not. Being lynched for being scummy while I'm not gives off wrong information on later days.

Kop's attempt on joining my wagon for example, is scummy. His reasoning is bad, and the fact that he tries to give that reasoning anyway is worse.

Today we lynch kop or me, if possible. Tomorrow the other one.

[Zaphkael]

well I got told its NOT a PL its an UL lol

plus of course I think that Jiffy is naturally more suspicious than I am, but that is probably why hes a lot better at finding scum than I am. I learn from him, and he gets to be a lazy poster



(right cat)

...the fuck is a UL...

I don't think he's good at finding scum if he thinks I am scum...but whatever.

VOTE: Zaphkael
Lynch me now, lynch kop tomorrow. I can't stand the little discussion happening here.

[Zaphkael]

I'm at L-1.

[Zaphkael]

Now we are talking.

VOTE: kop

[Zaphkael]

I am under orders to:

Explain to you that it is not a policy lynch, and although the utility argument *is* part of our case.

It is not the totality of our case and we do not appreciate our arguments being boiled down to that in order to shrug it off

From near as Jiffy can discern the lyrics are pretty

specifically fitting to roles

And this is confirmed by the outted Marastin hydra, a post by Titus, and our own role PM

Obscurer simply does not connect as directly to the lyrics of Ha Ha You're Dead as the others, and thus we suspect is probably a sloppy fake claim. We are also concerned about the part not revealed.


Most of this is actually Jiffy's own words slightly paraphrased to we instead of I.

(from both right and left cat who are wondering WHY peeps are suddenly giving Zaph a free pass)

I'm damn tired of hearing "this is what jiffy thinks"
What do YOU think rach?
Oh and stop rolefishing please. If you listen to th lyrics you can obviously guess my other ability

[Zaphkael]

Hey can you stop asking like I'm avoiding questions when I'm documented VLA thanks. I got clients and a real life occasionally.

That being said, he's scummy because he's not trying. He's not promoting discussion. He's just playing woe is me and going to get lynched. That's a caught scum tactic where I see it usually

Up to you to decide wether it's a good or a bad thing.

I can understand why people would vote me, they're not voting badly.

I'm saying that lynching me is fine, but not for their reason.

You can lynch me today, but lynch kop tomorrow

Which is why I don't mind being lynched for that, but I do mind being lynched for 'being scummy' when I'm not. Being lynched for being scummy while I'm not gives off wrong information on later days.

Today we lynch kop or me, if possible. Tomorrow the other one.

VOTE: Zaphkael
Lynch me now, lynch kop tomorrow

Yes omg you are right titus I'm scum caught STARTING AT MY VERY FIRST POST.

Am I not promoting discussion? I think I've done enough to try and move the game to relevant topics.
Discussing if my lyrics fit is not relevant.

Oh and, you stated I was scummy before I selfvoted, as well. Why was I scummy back then?
I think you were just looking for an easy wagon and are now making up bullshit reasons.

But I think kop is more likely to be scum so idc

[Zaphkael]

VOTE: titus

@otp:

I am under orders to:

Explain to you that it is not a policy lynch, and although the utility argument *is* part of our case.

It is not the totality of our case and we do not appreciate our arguments being boiled down to that in order to shrug it off

From near as Jiffy can discern the lyrics are pretty

specifically fitting to roles

And this is confirmed by the outted Marastin hydra, a post by Titus, and our own role PM

Obscurer simply does not connect as directly to the lyrics of Ha Ha You're Dead as the others, and thus we suspect is probably a sloppy fake claim. We are also concerned about the part not revealed.


Most of this is actually Jiffy's own words slightly paraphrased to we instead of I.

(from both right and left cat who are wondering WHY peeps are suddenly giving Zaph a free pass)

I'm damn tired of hearing "this is what jiffy thinks"
What do YOU think rach?
Oh and stop rolefishing please. If you listen to th lyrics you can obviously guess my other ability

[Zaphkael]

JIFFY WTF

Wait a few hours for claim maybe? Whatever role she is, we wont see it
Do you see how stupid that is?

And stop crusading for my lynch. I'm town, everyone knows it. Don't make me use my haha you're dead ability.

Thanks.

[Zaphkael]

If you are so sure about that
Fine then

If both of us are still alive tomorrow i want to hear a decent case on me tho

[Zaphkael]

... He isn't.
Why would he tie himself to PE? There are nore logical targets.

VOTE: kop

[Zaphkael]

So this is where I think I'm at.

ASP, Professor, are pretty high up in my town list. Refined Mayhem I'm confidently thinking he is town.

Zaph wasn't lying about his role, but alignment, that remains to be seen. Chaos, I believed he was town, but right now I am seriously doubting that. Horsebells still remains to be a scum read.

So I strongly think scum lies within - Zaph, Chaos, and Horsebells.

I'm going to go with my original scum read in Horsebells.

VOTE: RadiantHorsebells

Why?
You scumread, but why? Not explaining makes it worse, ya know.

PE, RM and ASP are all obvtown.
Chaos and RH can be discussed if
Kop isnt scum, but he likely is.

[Zaphkael]

I'm not.
Chaos is town.

[Zaphkael]

Tone.
Gut.
The way he cased kop.

And his posting today
I think i am making a mistake here, as well.
UNVOTE:

[Zaphkael]

Intent to hammer.

I was about to vote as well.

[Zaphkael]

Am I the worst?

[Zaphkael]

Actually Zaph could be scum here.

OTP scumread him
He's defending ChaosOmega

lynch either of them next if I'm dead.

There is only 2 scum.
Nice try.

VOTE: RH

[Zaphkael]

Why is me defending chaos a scumtell?

[Zaphkael]

So RM is scum for WK'ing me?

I believe you are just looking for random reasons.
I wanted to point out how terrible the nightkill is for me because OTP scumread me, but if it is a kill meant to frame, scum will ALWAYS point it out. You just did in an attempt to start yet another counterwagon.

[Zaphkael]

Kop
RM
PE
Chaos
ASP

But I'm wrong, as I don't find ASP scummy either.

[Zaphkael]

I might have been giving PE too much leeway, but I really like their tone.

Yes, my scumreads died. Kop was a scumread but apparently something happened which makes him town.
ASP is rather null as I like his tone but yes, his nightaction is odd, especially as single scum.

Titus' case on me was empty. Don't say it was decent.

[Zaphkael]

Ah, here we go.

Hey all, posting like this for one post because I need to track down our hydra password, but I have something important to say.
Basically, we're a modified PGO:
Instead of being killed if you visit us, you become a

lover

with us. Meaning, if we die, so do you; if you die, so do we, and this be it lynch OR nightkill.

I considered the prospects of not claiming, or only partially claiming, this ability, but I'm pretty sure this is an anti-EVERYTHING ability. It's bad for town because two town deaths is bad. It's bad for scum because they'd lose one of their own, sure, but that is mitigated by them also taking us out, soyeah.

You REALLY don't want to target us with actions.

VOTE: On The Prowl.

Their claim is protown

I just had a double take, I am so used to thinking RM as "RachMarie"

Anywho, I'M HERE BIITTCCHHHEEESSSS

I think I want refined mayhems head, and I am undecided about that naked vote, but it can be interesting. Lets see what else comes out his slot? Iirc he'll come in eventually and play.

I see chaos's point, but I don't explicitly agree with him

This chaoticness is town imo
Theyre not worried about their style at all here

I am also not a fan of kop, to much set up spec, not enough scum hunting.

With RM, my read on him is strong gut at the moment and it can't yet be reasoned out

Mind meld

Ok, so neither of us are a fan of the zaph wagon. I think hes town, and jiffy is just pushing a policy wagon, something that I am not a fan of. I disagree with the way he claimed, but to me it seemed genuine and it doesn't make much sense as a scum role to me. I also think he is actually trying to engage in the game in a way that I think others are not.

Like Chaos, who mastin didn't like, and after reading him through, I no longer like.to me he is making it seem like he is making conversion but isn't following up with anyine he is conversing with and seems like he is just trykng to look like he is town

Again mind meld
Extra points for telling the truth unprompted

... I think RH is town. It's gut, but I'm leaning town, and based on that, sheep time.

VOTE: titus

Ill try to do more later.

Why would scum explicitly mention sheeping?

The more I look things over, the more I'm convinced Zaph is town. Those lyrics fitting to an obscurer are a stretch, but it's not as far out in the context of the entire song based upon interpretation, and I would argue that it makes more sense to claim as town than try to bluff through it as scum.

@RH do you have any actual reason for voting me?

Seeing the truth, i like the tone

Are you fucking daft Asp.

~Ss

... He isn't.
Why would he tie himself to PE? There are nore logical targets.

VOTE: kop

I had it down to Prof and RM for my night target. I completely forgot about the claim that was made, as ATM I would say they are among my strongest townreads, and based upon my ability, that's who I should be targeting. RM gets bumped further up because they don't just accept that I'm town based upon me doing something stupid.

The naked sheep from Chaos strikes me as odd. Already on the fence about his alignment,so for now,

VOTE: Chaos

This sounds honest and why would scum be given an active ability that helps town?

How am I lowest on the list, and NOT scummy? Who is, then?

I like this tone as well


Sufficient?

[Zaphkael]

I suppose i find ASP's rather sudden switch on 'why RH could actually be scum' odd when rereading, if you really want me to have scumreads.


You could also get rid of me, since I'm not very useful and you would finally get flips.
You still have a mislynch or two...

[Zaphkael]

That vote didn't strike me as normal behaviour from Chaos, considering he was on me pretty much end of day one. The whole swing from pressing myself, to then not pursuing me come day two and going for RH is strange.

Hmmm, almost like something happened overnight to make me stop pursuing Kop...

If this is a cop soft you can claim it

It made me stop pursuing kop
And innthis case its very likely both of them are town
RM is vey likely town

That leaves asp and PE, but i genuinely think PE is town. Asp as well, but less than everyone else.

Im down lynching these 2.

[Zaphkael]

I am waiting as well.

[Zaphkael]

That's not the perfect alibi for him but it's way more than most others so that means you and kop are cleared.
RM is very likely town as well.

That leaves me, asp and prof

I dont care about lynching me or them, if lynching me helps restoring your trust issues
But id highly prefer their lynch.

[Zaphkael]

Thats obviously the best course of action

Just don't announce who you are jailkeeping
I've been mislynched because of scum not killing while i was jailed before.

[Zaphkael]

I really wanted to lynch kop
But the cases in which he is scum are so few that we can look at him as likely town.
Chaos is town for claiming so, imo. It would be weird if it was a scum roleblocker gambit (it could be, but I don't think it is.)

I don't trust PE's outburst, although I found them townie before that.

[Zaphkael]

No you wouldn't lynch chaos to clear yourself because he will only flip town-scum.

I have townread RM because of their play.

I have trust issues whenever someone writes 4 walls like that when it's absolutely not needed, and it sounds forced.

As long as we tell chaos what to do with his role, he cant use it like he wants if hes scum.


Oh and
Fuck statistics. If scum is within the lovers I don't care if the odds of winning are slightly higher leaving them alive because odds are just odds and they don't mean anything.

[Zaphkael]

I think kop is likely town, though, the nature of his claim is odd.

It also means that whoever he investigated is not cleared.

[Zaphkael]

Hysterical cop.

Information age of hysteria.
It's calling out to idiot America.

This seems like a fake claim, TTH would give to scum.

No way town have a cop with all the claimed roles so far.
Prof believe me CO is town.
It's either ASP or Kop, you do realise that NA and Kill can be done on the same night?
~Ss

Not at all.
It's a role that is very likely town with a scum roleblocker/jailkeeper.

[Zaphkael]

I believe PE is scum.

[Zaphkael]

Because I decided to avoid a nolynch? Gtfo.

Also, we already have a lynch so wtf are you on about

False.
I believe you are scum regardless of the hammer.

Tomorrow is another day?

[Zaphkael]

Agreed

The kop lynch was terrible, and it's painfully obvious how PE is scum.
No lynch is not really an option but it kind of is.

[Zaphkael]

I dont have any other ability.

I tried to soft a second ability, that is a vig several times to eat the nightkill but it failed.

[Zaphkael]

No pt
And i fullclaimed role obscurer.

[Zaphkael]

Im kind of scared RM is fooling me.

But i still believe PE is scum.

[Zaphkael]

Bit V/LA (not to mention, exhausted; staff meetings drain the life out of me), so no posting at the moment, but I intend to post tomorrow about why the game's an auto-win if we don't lynch the lovers today.

VOTE: prof

It's only auto-win if one of the lovers is scum. Otherwise, It's auto-lose.

[Zaphkael]

Scum is in lovers:
No lynch, 3-1, town non lover gets killed, 2-1 autowin
Lover lynch 2-0 win
Non-lover lynch 2-1 town non lover gets killed 1-1 scum wins

Scum is not in lovers
No lynch 3-1, lovers get killed 1-1 scum wins
Lover lynch 1-1 scum wins
Non lover lynch 50% town win 50% scum win.

Where is the autowin?

[Zaphkael]

Scum is not in lovers
No lynch 3-1, lovers get killed 1-1 scum wins
Lover lynch 1-1 scum wins
Non lover lynch 50% town win 50% scum win.

Scum can't kill us, because he'd get loverized with us and die

And ASP?

[Zaphkael]

For me the game is easy.

I assume RM doc'dme last night. If we lynch them and theyre not scum, scum in the lovers can't kill me (unless strongman but I doubt its existance because of all the negative utility) and tomorrow is autowin.

But that's only true if all of you trust me as town.

[Zaphkael]

Tell me why I just didnt kill you yesterday and setup a 3p lylo with Chaos and zaph.
Why THE HELL AM I AS SCUM HAVE PUT MYSELF IN THIS SITUATION WHERE I NEED TO CONVINCE ONE OF YOU TO ESSENTIALLY SELF VOTE?

~Ss

Because I wanted PE dead?

[Zaphkael]

Then vote PE with me.

[Zaphkael]

No thanks.

[Zaphkael]

Because I think they're scum, aand they claimed their own ability. They may have lied.
I don't trust them.

[Zaphkael]

Lynching ASP will only kill PE if PE was thruthful about their role.
If I believe them to be scum, I have all right to believe they could have lied, in which case lynching ASP does not kill PE.

[Zaphkael]

Then why aren't you moving your vote?

[Zaphkael]

I,m being weird, mainly because I'm not trusting you anymore.

This is too easy and you know that.

Pedit: yes. That.

[Zaphkael]

VOTE: rm

Why are you trying to appeal?

[Zaphkael]

UNVOTE:

[Zaphkael]

So the moment I say I doubt you, you just think it's a good idea to listen and vote PE?

Pedit: I am reading and I am questioning whatever I feel was not explained fully.

Cases?

[Zaphkael]

Shhh... Scum isn't supposed to know that isn't an option..

So do you think this is normal town tought?

And because I pick it up RM is more likely scum then me?

[Zaphkael]

I think you are trying everything in your power to not scumread ASP and get the lynch on me or RM so you survive.

But on the other hand, RM was way too awkward about voting you.

[Zaphkael]

Why was it weird?
Look at your posts. You tried not to look too willing to change votes. When it got hot, you changed. That's scummy imo.

Pedit: that's not a case. I will look into it, though.

Pedit2: because as scum, it feels scummy to do. I've had my scum games as well, so I know how it feels.

Pedit3: no, you discuss that in your hydra pt.

Pedit4: ...

[Zaphkael]

MM wanna answer my question as to why am I leaving you alive if scum and why the hell am I killing my scum read? Still waiting for that answer.

This proves that you are aware and the fact that you try to push it makes it at best NAI to me.

[Zaphkael]

But your reaction test was all kinds of bad.
It looks like you slipped and tried to cover up and I'm really bugged by that.
It's why I unvoted; I don't trust you either.

Pedit: why was from your perspective a reason not to change before it, then? I asked you to change your vote and you asked me the same back.

[Zaphkael]

I'm probably just being stupid.

VOTE: PE

@PE is there a problem about the slipping? I know who it is, I don't care if both of you used your mains.

[Zaphkael]

Stop slipping shadow

Also strong man could have been titus

What slip?
Stop being dense.

He means stop posting on your main account.

-Xk

Probably a she though.

[Zaphkael]

I've done pretty crazy shit as scum.

Like leaving a neighbor alive after accidentally claiming scum in PT (the then)

And claimed vig doing kills on lynchables, leaving unlynchables alive (and some pretty strong ones at that) because I wanted to play with them including said neighbor (Tammy, nacho, empire)

You are supposed to give reasons not to get lynched, I believe.

[Zaphkael]

Weighing things, it's more likely PE is scum.
Yet I stronly believe town would have much higher odds if you all just lynched me D1. No flips is shit.

[Zaphkael]

Okay.

Right now I'm just waiting for ASP to hammer.
In case he doesn't and this ends in a no-lynch, either scum wins tonight (RM scum) or town wins tomorrow (PE or ASP scum)

Pedit: I am seeing your point. It just makes less sense than RM's.

[Zaphkael]

MM wanna answer my question as to why am I leaving you alive if scum and why the hell am I killing my scum read? Still waiting for that answer.

This proves that you are aware and the fact that you try to push it makes it at best NAI to me.

So you mean this?

Who exactly isn't reading?

[Zaphkael]

I'mhaving a hard time believing they decided to bus when kop was a good and likely lynch.

[Zaphkael]

It isn't that difficult to do, risks aren't to terrible and rewards are fantastic

Lmao

I do think the kills are in their being-town advantage
Them white-knighting me could be seen as scum (trying to keep a shit player with an anti town role alive) but I don't think it outweighs the D1 thing.

[Zaphkael]

Stop there, both of you.
No need to get salty.

[Zaphkael]

We'll see who loses when the game is over.

[Zaphkael]

For me the game is easy.

I assume RM doc'dme last night. If we lynch them and theyre not scum, scum in the lovers can't kill me (unless strongman but I doubt its existance because of all the negative utility) and tomorrow is autowin.

But that's only true if all of you trust me as town.

But lynching ASP will also kill PE, which is what you ultimately want. So, why not move?

Also, you're wrong about who we protected last night.

-Xk

Nice try,

but no.

[Zaphkael]

The town player in the lovers
Please vote PE.

It's the only protown move.

[Zaphkael]

For me, statistically there is scum in lovers, 66% sure.
And my believes lead me to that being true.

[Zaphkael]

What the fuck do you mean?

If you think I'm town trust me and lynch PE.

[Zaphkael]

VOTE: PE

If either of me/RM is scum we were gamethrowing.
It's just painfully obvious.

[Zaphkael]

UNVOTE:

If you didn't protect me
And none of the lovers
What the fuck did you think you were doing?

[Zaphkael]

You could have left that unanswered then.

But yeah, it makes sense.
VOTE: PE

please prod PE and ASP.

[Zaphkael]

They claimed to have protected me 2 nights ago, which, delayed, protected me last night. They never claimed to have protected me last night as well.

Hell, if RM was scum, the game would have been called yesterday already. None of us is a doctor, so the nightkill on the lovers would have been unpreventable, and thus ending the game in a scum win.

Scum MUST be in the lovers. This is a fact, not my opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not moving my vote anywhere until you can give me a good argument against this.

I don't even know why everyone has locked me as town. It worries me.

[Zaphkael]

It's my point. Not that that matters a lot, but still.

Just vote PE. It is objectively the best thing to do. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying.

[Zaphkael]

Please prod ASP and PE.

[Zaphkael]

Why the fuck are you still stretching this game
It stopped being fun a long time already
Just vote PE and release me from this game.

[Zaphkael]

I'm pretty sure you did the right thing. I very much doubt that RM is scum.

[Zaphkael]

That took way longer than it should have. Well played, both of you.

Gratz to the rest of the town!

[Zaphkael]

Well played.
However, I remain the stance that I should have been lynched early on. This game was a closer call than it should have been.

And I'm curious as to why I was lock-town to RM. It was good, since that gave us the win eventually, but it's not...what I expected to happen.

[Zaphkael]

YAY we did it

Sorry about almost shooting you when you were at L-1 Zaph you turned out to be a cool cat dude ♥

Jiffy wanted to actually do the shooting and post but he was at work, and then by the time he was home, you were no longer L-1 and our shot only worked on L-1.

We definitely did not expect to die so early though. I guess Mara and Mastin were really afraid of us figuring them out?

Right Cat Rach

No problem, you only played the game


And yeah, kudos to marangal for carrying the scum team. It must have been extremely frustrating.