Micro 644: Flavorless Mafia - Game Over

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Why hello there

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VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

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L-1? Cool

VOTE: Magna

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lol

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Town reading grapes and Rach based on page 2

MOD – I’ll be V/LA from basically now until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties.

Did a quick read on the pre-game phase.

VOTE: Shannon

Also think Grapes might be a good wagon for all the immediate “Town block go” posturing.

These are bollocks cookie cutter reads

Whoever can guess why I lol'd in post #68 gets to be confirmed town.

Because one scum chainsawed you to protect their buddy. Either that, or because they just plain voted you.
In which case, VOTE: grapes. Confirmed townread that, bro.

ew

Lastly - notice how generic many of his so called markers for Town / Scum are (tone is used way too often to Town-read when it is absolutely meaningless, note that my entrance is the classic generic "scum" post).

Just gonna leave this here

Can't decide whether shannon is scum or just kooky

Whoever can guess why I lol'd in post #68 gets to be confirmed town.

Because one scum chainsawed you to protect their buddy. Either that, or because they just plain voted you.
In which case, VOTE: grapes. Confirmed townread that, bro.

Back from V/LA.

First let me address my grapes scum read.

BTD/Tenshii/Rach/grapes townblock. Vibes taht I could explain but you wouldn't appreciate.

So this opening line of 25 is what first got my attention. As I said previously – scum getting a Town read early on is a good way to help neutralize the power of the Docs. Why this struck me is that the immediate Townread he has on literally 24 posts doesn’t make much sense.

Tenshiii has posted 5 and 11.

Rach had posted 6, 17, 19 and 20.

BTD had posted 15 and 18.

Looking in context there is not a single post there that isn’t easily replicable by scum. It is all generally reasonable and completely NAI posting. I suspect that grapes chose players he was most familiar with (and thus would be most amenable to his page 2 Townblock suggestiong).

@BTD / Tenshii / Rachel

- is my suspicion about your familiarity with grapes correct?

Next we have the following that solidified my early scum read. And make no mistake … it is clearly early.

Yup this is scum, more super generic cookie cutter reasoning, fake stream of consciousness style posting

Why are you ostensibly worried about wagon composition in pre-game?

This question is terrible

Furthermore the MoI townread is bad -- there's been zero impression of him figuring anything out. He's been scumreading since he replaced into the game.

So to be clear - finding and pressuring scum-reads isn't figuring out the game in your mind?

lol

@grapes I voted you because it was ironic for the "confirmed town" to vote the person who offered the designation. Also, you never explained

why

you LOL'd in 68.

I know I'm not exactly an unbiased third party, but grapes's readslist was based on remarkably little stuff of even a passing semblance to evidence.

Magna took it down remarkably easily

, but grapes wouldn't deign to admit it was ultimately useless... My question is grapes, if you're trying to keep track of your thoughts like that, why make it public? Reads based mostly on insubstantial "tone" and "feel" are remarkably volatile and easily manipulated.

Magna's response to grape's reads were admirably logically consistent, but still NAI considering how insubstantial they were in the first place. I think it's safe to say that if Magna is scum, a viable partner grapes would be. I wouldn't put it past a sufficiently conniving team to develop such a ploy--one quickly becomes the star of the show with a flood of seemingly benign posts, while the other plays the level-headed bogeyman to distance themselves while not particularly harming the other... It seems like solid early Day 1 play, which is why

I'm publicly suggesting the game's first tinfoil hat theory: grapes x Magna scum team

.

Reading the above, grapes, you should note how unilaterally awful it is to make a definitive policy proposal so early in the game, barring truly exceptional circumstances.

BTD6_maker: Hasn't done much save criticizing grapes for vocally wanting a townblock, then promptly voting him. It should be clear, though, that this was a joke, which is strange because BTD6 strikes me as a fellow who sees through things like that easily...

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Elias: Lurking, joke filler, but promising to respond later tonight.

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Tenshii: Hypocritical though it may be, sure, I concede that I like his calm, rational tone.

Lean town

shaddowez: One post so far, understandably townreads Magna, also understandably slightly scumreads grapes, but the case on shannon seems unfulfilling.

Lean town

shannon: When I pressed her about how she didn't respond to my question about how she had a suspicious first post, she explained it away, then soon enough voted me for "asking her to directly answer a question whose answer was implied". I think it's quite strange how she goes on the defense first, then right after changes her stance on the offense to her antagonizer.

Lean scum

grapes: High-energy, active, and "just getting the game going", sure, but ultimately unconvincing. He makes up more than half of this game's posts, but he hasn't really

done

anything.

Lean scum

Rach: ...I don't know. She has this aura of danger about her. Must be the avatar and the meta. Otherwise, I like the questions.

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MagnaofIllusion: Good take down of grapes, but it wasn't particularly alignment indicative. See above.

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UNVOTE: grapes because there is as of yet insufficient evidence to put my vote anywhere.

The magna and grapes commentary is nonsense, the readlist labels here do not match her CR's thoughts at all

And this to me reads as crafting a narrative that fits his defined read.

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MoI+CR, maaaaaaaayyybbeeeee shannon

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Yes I'm definitely motivated by your opinion of me

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Still up for a flashwagon on CR

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I didn't make a case

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I didn't make a case

I agree but 400 looks like a half-assed effort towards trying.

Heyyyyyooo

It wasn't an attempt at a case either

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You're asking me why I'd want to lynch a scumread just because I have another scumread

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We have 24 real life hours. You aren't a newb Rach. That is more than sufficient time.

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All of Magna's 'scumhunting' is the most surface level, generic and specious stuff. Like, "grapes called people town early so he is scum", "Ranmaru defended grapes so they are partners", he has had absolutely nothing nuanced or interesting to say all game.

And then there's shit like

Why are you ostensibly worried about wagon composition in pre-game?

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If I was serious about flashwagoning CR over lynching magna I'd have voted CR

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This is just more of the robotic 'the plain text of this post is bad in a vacuum' style nonsense from magna

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This is just more of the robotic 'the plain text of this post is bad in a vacuum' style nonsense from magna

This. x10

I'm not shocked you support buzzword gibberish .... scum love that.

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I was going to comment, but I think it speaks for itsself

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@everyone There are people trying to lynch their scumreads

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What is town about magna?

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Why not now?

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Town {Shannon}
Lean {Grapes, Magna, Ranmaru}
Null {Not_Mafia, Aristophanes, RachMarie}
Scum {BTD}

VOTE: BTD

I think scum!Grapes,Magna,Ranmaru are too out there. In a world where scum want to survive to the end, pushing THIS hard onto a person you know is town is bound to give you trouble in the future days.

BTD's iso has consistency issues.lack of conviction with his beliefs, and his 331 is a weird reaction to my post.

BTD cannot be lynched at this point, it's grapes or magna, why are you townreading magna?

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We have 13 hours until deadline

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INTENT TO HAMMER btw

MoI already refused to claim

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I hope and think this is twilight trolling

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VOTE: Magnaofillusion

I'm VT of course. That's why didn't bother to claim. If I was scum like grapes is pushing so damn hard I would have claimed a Doc role to get a counter-claim with time to move the wagon if the Doc chose not to counter.

You realize a no lynch here basically equals a scum win yea?

And look - now a scummy Appeal to Fear. I swear to god he's so obviously scummy it's painful that Town on my wagon didn't see it.

I have trouble believing stuff like this comes from town

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After those flips I'm unsure of where I stand, after the MoI flip, I was ready to vote grapes coming in to today, Rach is my only confident read at this point

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VOTE: Aristophanes

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Who's scum Aristo?

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Aristo full reads list please

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Aristo+Ranmaru

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Shannon, let me get back to you on NM. I want to reread him.

His play mostly struck me as town on a gut/meta level, but I want to go more into it.

How convenient

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Rach what do you think of Aristo?

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I've been known to bus

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The solution is to lynch Aristo

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@grapes I voted you because it was ironic for the "confirmed town" to vote the person who offered the designation. Also, you never explained

why

you LOL'd in 68.

I know I'm not exactly an unbiased third party, but grapes's readslist was based on remarkably little stuff of even a passing semblance to evidence. Magna took it down remarkably easily, but grapes wouldn't deign to admit it was ultimately useless... My question is grapes, if you're trying to keep track of your thoughts like that, why make it public? Reads based mostly on insubstantial "tone" and "feel" are remarkably volatile and easily manipulated.

Magna's response to grape's reads were admirably logically consistent, but still NAI considering how insubstantial they were in the first place. I think it's safe to say that if Magna is scum, a viable partner grapes would be. I wouldn't put it past a sufficiently conniving team to develop such a ploy--one quickly becomes the star of the show with a flood of seemingly benign posts, while the other plays the level-headed bogeyman to distance themselves while not particularly harming the other... It seems like solid early Day 1 play, which is why

I'm publicly suggesting the game's first tinfoil hat theory: grapes x Magna scum team

.

Reading the above, grapes, you should note how unilaterally awful it is to make a definitive policy proposal so early in the game, barring truly exceptional circumstances.

BTD6_maker: Hasn't done much save criticizing grapes for vocally wanting a townblock, then promptly voting him. It should be clear, though, that this was a joke, which is strange because BTD6 strikes me as a fellow who sees through things like that easily...

Null

Elias: Lurking, joke filler, but promising to respond later tonight.

Null

Tenshii: Hypocritical though it may be, sure, I concede that I like his calm, rational tone.

Lean town

shaddowez: One post so far, understandably townreads Magna, also understandably slightly scumreads grapes, but the case on shannon seems unfulfilling.

Lean town

shannon: When I pressed her about how she didn't respond to my question about how she had a suspicious first post, she explained it away, then soon enough voted me for "asking her to directly answer a question whose answer was implied". I think it's quite strange how she goes on the defense first, then right after changes her stance on the offense to her antagonizer.

Lean scum

grapes: High-energy, active, and "just getting the game going", sure, but ultimately unconvincing. He makes up more than half of this game's posts, but he hasn't really

done

anything.

Lean scum

Rach: ...I don't know. She has this aura of danger about her. Must be the avatar and the meta. Otherwise, I like the questions.

Null

MagnaofIllusion: Good take down of grapes, but it wasn't particularly alignment indicative. See above.

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UNVOTE: grapes because there is as of yet insufficient evidence to put my vote anywhere.

This is scum

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Thouhts on an Aristo lynch Ramaru?

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Gun to your head, Aristo town or scum?

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@grapes I voted you because it was ironic for the "confirmed town" to vote the person who offered the designation. Also, you never explained

why

you LOL'd in 68.

I know I'm not exactly an unbiased third party, but grapes's readslist was based on remarkably little stuff of even a passing semblance to evidence.

Magna took it down remarkably easily

, but grapes wouldn't deign to admit it was ultimately useless... My question is grapes, if you're trying to keep track of your thoughts like that, why make it public? Reads based mostly on insubstantial "tone" and "feel" are remarkably volatile and easily manipulated.

Magna's response to grape's reads were admirably logically consistent, but still NAI considering how insubstantial they were in the first place. I think it's safe to say that if Magna is scum, a viable partner grapes would be. I wouldn't put it past a sufficiently conniving team to develop such a ploy--one quickly becomes the star of the show with a flood of seemingly benign posts, while the other plays the level-headed bogeyman to distance themselves while not particularly harming the other... It seems like solid early Day 1 play, which is why

I'm publicly suggesting the game's first tinfoil hat theory: grapes x Magna scum team

.

Reading the above, grapes, you should note how unilaterally awful it is to make a definitive policy proposal so early in the game, barring truly exceptional circumstances.

BTD6_maker: Hasn't done much save criticizing grapes for vocally wanting a townblock, then promptly voting him. It should be clear, though, that this was a joke, which is strange because BTD6 strikes me as a fellow who sees through things like that easily...

Null

Elias: Lurking, joke filler, but promising to respond later tonight.

Null

Tenshii: Hypocritical though it may be, sure, I concede that I like his calm, rational tone.

Lean town

shaddowez: One post so far, understandably townreads Magna, also understandably slightly scumreads grapes, but the case on shannon seems unfulfilling.

Lean town

shannon: When I pressed her about how she didn't respond to my question about how she had a suspicious first post, she explained it away, then soon enough voted me for "asking her to directly answer a question whose answer was implied". I think it's quite strange how she goes on the defense first, then right after changes her stance on the offense to her antagonizer.

Lean scum

grapes: High-energy, active, and "just getting the game going", sure, but ultimately unconvincing. He makes up more than half of this game's posts, but he hasn't really

done

anything.

Lean scum

Rach: ...I don't know. She has this aura of danger about her. Must be the avatar and the meta. Otherwise, I like the questions.

Null

MagnaofIllusion: Good take down of grapes, but it wasn't particularly alignment indicative. See above.

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UNVOTE: grapes because there is as of yet insufficient evidence to put my vote anywhere.

The magna and grapes commentary is nonsense, the readlist labels here do not match her CR's thoughts at all

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Tenshii or shannon please unvote, I don't want Ranmaru to have the hammer

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shannon pls

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And Aristo claim

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Hammer Aristo

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Why is Aristo evading this game?

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Not really, Aristo is consistently site active and all he has done is slither on the Rach wagon

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I have played many times with Rach and know how to read her, she's town, she's often a lynch target due to her demeanour and RL circumstances often inhibiting her activity

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BTD was PR hinting so heavily, this wagon was silly, can we move back to Aristo please?

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It's not a hammer

Ranmaru or Aristo pls

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Can we flashwagon Ranmaru for trying to blag a no lynch

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Notice NM blaming me for a possible no Lynch when others are inviting and not consolidating

You acted like there was a hammer on the wagon you unvoted , there's no way you didn't realise there was no hammer, Rach even said it

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Each move to aristo please there isn't the support to lynch my slot

I can only post for 15 more minutes and then I'm working until deadline

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Being too quiet in a game has many effects. Scum may pin you as a PR, but scum are more likely to pin you as an easy mislynch. Scum are probably doing the latter with me at the moment.

@Tenshii, pr hinting

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I'm gone til after deadline, please consider Aristo, CR's ISO is awful and Aristo has done the bare minimum to get by, every time he is vulnerable he pops up and slithers on to a wagon

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VOTE: Ranmaru

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Yes

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It's possible mafia targetted BTD thinking the full doctor would protect someone else so Tenshii isn't 100% conftown, but I very much doubt he's scum

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It's shannon or Ranmaru and it's not shannon

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Wha are your reads right now tenshii?

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What's wrong with PoE?

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You should flip to Ranmaru

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Rach was an easier lynch than me, saying I had no case just isn't true.

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I'm gone til after deadline, please consider Aristo, CR's ISO is awful and Aristo has done the bare minimum to get by, every time he is vulnerable he pops up and slithers on to a wagon

Not really, Aristo is consistently site active and all he has done is slither on the Rach wagon

@grapes I voted you because it was ironic for the "confirmed town" to vote the person who offered the designation. Also, you never explained

why

you LOL'd in 68.

I know I'm not exactly an unbiased third party, but grapes's readslist was based on remarkably little stuff of even a passing semblance to evidence.

Magna took it down remarkably easily

, but grapes wouldn't deign to admit it was ultimately useless... My question is grapes, if you're trying to keep track of your thoughts like that, why make it public? Reads based mostly on insubstantial "tone" and "feel" are remarkably volatile and easily manipulated.

Magna's response to grape's reads were admirably logically consistent, but still NAI considering how insubstantial they were in the first place. I think it's safe to say that if Magna is scum, a viable partner grapes would be. I wouldn't put it past a sufficiently conniving team to develop such a ploy--one quickly becomes the star of the show with a flood of seemingly benign posts, while the other plays the level-headed bogeyman to distance themselves while not particularly harming the other... It seems like solid early Day 1 play, which is why

I'm publicly suggesting the game's first tinfoil hat theory: grapes x Magna scum team

.

Reading the above, grapes, you should note how unilaterally awful it is to make a definitive policy proposal so early in the game, barring truly exceptional circumstances.

BTD6_maker: Hasn't done much save criticizing grapes for vocally wanting a townblock, then promptly voting him. It should be clear, though, that this was a joke, which is strange because BTD6 strikes me as a fellow who sees through things like that easily...

Null

Elias: Lurking, joke filler, but promising to respond later tonight.

Null

Tenshii: Hypocritical though it may be, sure, I concede that I like his calm, rational tone.

Lean town

shaddowez: One post so far, understandably townreads Magna, also understandably slightly scumreads grapes, but the case on shannon seems unfulfilling.

Lean town

shannon: When I pressed her about how she didn't respond to my question about how she had a suspicious first post, she explained it away, then soon enough voted me for "asking her to directly answer a question whose answer was implied". I think it's quite strange how she goes on the defense first, then right after changes her stance on the offense to her antagonizer.

Lean scum

grapes: High-energy, active, and "just getting the game going", sure, but ultimately unconvincing. He makes up more than half of this game's posts, but he hasn't really

done

anything.

Lean scum

Rach: ...I don't know. She has this aura of danger about her. Must be the avatar and the meta. Otherwise, I like the questions.

Null

MagnaofIllusion: Good take down of grapes, but it wasn't particularly alignment indicative. See above.

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UNVOTE: grapes because there is as of yet insufficient evidence to put my vote anywhere.

The magna and grapes commentary is nonsense, the readlist labels here do not match her CR's thoughts at all

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I could easily have pushed Rach, I chose not to. I knew BTD was PR and didn't push him when I easily could have. I came on near the end of the day and forced through the Aristo lynch.

It's Ranmaru

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Maybe if I posted it unprovoked

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Rach, vote Ranmaru. It's either him or me at this point. You choose to move or stay.

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Hi!

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Why are you questioning the doc?

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What points after what happened?

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What's your point? I was scum reading CR on day one

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Ranmaru is still scum

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Sorry for lynching scum Ranmaru?

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Ignore the ?

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As soon as we're done lynching you we won't lynch scum again

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Join Ranmaru wagon. You won't. No balls.

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Okay let's try this. Tenshii what is town about Ranmaru?

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We have to compromise and have Tenshii vote Ranmaru

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One liners are a me tell not a scum tell, I'm always concise

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Often things are hard to explain

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The solution is to vote Ranmaru

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But why was your vote not on me?

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You can easily force a Ranmaru lynch

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I kinda thinking it might be Tenshii now

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I'm like 65-35 now on it being Ranmaru, before I was like 97-3

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Twilight trolling

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Thank ircher for hosting, I wanna see the dead pt

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Part of that though besides the rarefaction game, might be that fact you have Ted Cruz as your avatar