Micro 644: Flavorless Mafia - Game Over

[RachMarie]

ego

[RachMarie]

um didn't the mod say votes in this phase don't count? why are we voting?

VOTE: grapes

For starting the voting

[RachMarie]

I have not played with an super long preday before usually they don't open the thread til the new day is about to start or shortly before.

So this is like a trial run for D1?

[RachMarie]

1. BTD6_maker Checked in and voted
2. Realities checked in and voted
3. Elias checked in and not voted lots of responding to other peeps
4. Tenshii checked in and that is it
5. MeowMix Not checked in
6. shannon checked in and voted
7. grapes checked in and voted
8. Rach checked in and voted
9. Kamina not checked in

Here is where we stand so far, wouldn't it make more sense to be voting on people who are actually participating to get more real info than someone who has not yet checked in? Someone who may end up being replaced?

My experience with MM is he tends to flake out of games at times.

[RachMarie]

I want to know how in the he double hockey sticks you are reading a slot who has not yet posted and is probably going to be replaced by another player as town for "moonlogic"

[RachMarie]

I want to know how in the he double hockey sticks you are reading a slot who has not yet posted and is probably going to be replaced by another player as town for "moonlogic"

Still want to know

[RachMarie]

I think your reasoning may be off. I would not town read a null slot myself until the replacement comes in and actually town tells.

[RachMarie]

What is your case on Elias?

[RachMarie]

Real start of the day

VOTE: MoI

For nking me in the last game before I could shoot you or the SK dude

[RachMarie]

Welcome shadd

[RachMarie]

@ MoI

It is Rachael not Rachel jfy which is one of the main reasons I go by Rach to help keep confusing spelling issues down

I have not played with grape before that I know of, unless this is an alt account or he has an alt with which I have played before.

If he is scum, hes pretty ballsy scum the way he is out there, most people I know when they are scumz tend to be more low key about things, which is why I am reading him as prob town.

My turn to go V/LA work stuffs plus getting this apt organized so I can get a new fridge from the landlord.

[RachMarie]

err jfyi

uggh I hate typos

[RachMarie]

You are one of the few who can pull it off with aplomb

[RachMarie]

not the activity it is the ballsy way he is doing the activity I am not talking number of posts here.

I had a gut read on you but nothing to back it up in Princess Mafia, that is why you along with the SK dude were on my short list to use my shot. I figured I would wait til N2 to be more sure since I NEVER get shot on N1, unless I am forced to claim something like cop or something. Well that record is now broken

[RachMarie]

oh THAT GAME yeah I remember that game MoI uggh

Did not surprise me that Ocean was a Falcon alt at all he was a royal jerk. What he said after I replaced in his slot and turned it around, was for the birds. And yeah there were a few times in that game where I thought for sure we would lose, even with the Imp hydra of Nacho and Tammy. Yeah KTS got a temp ban for a while for not playing his role in that game as well. I was like why can't people see that Ranger is scum.

[RachMarie]

@ MoI

Why are you voting Elias is it because hes uber lurky or is there something else that has tipped you off? I don't think I have ever played with him before.

[RachMarie]

That it is RVS and I am working on pegging you all atm?

I generally do not unvote until I figure out my initial reads, or someone does something that pings my scumdar so bad I vote someone based on that.

[RachMarie]

still sorting out, not sure why peeps see grapes as scummy with his level of pushiness?

and MoI is probably town but I need more he can be quite good as scum, but this is feeling more like the game he quoted than his play in Princess Bride.

CR is giving me good vibes too.

And truthfully since I am kinda also busy with RL shit that is all I got

[RachMarie]

I will get more posted in a day or so I am really busy right now and mostly just checking in on my games. I have a massive project I have to get the outline done for and turned into the client plus some prep work for my 30 day challenge that starts next Monday, plus of course housework loads of it.

[RachMarie]

At the wound care clinic on my kindle fire and the hospital WiFi. Will do catch up post when I get back home.

[RachMarie]

On top of everything else been sick

Catching up now

[RachMarie]

I hate being sick catching up now.

[RachMarie]

Sorry guys it is gonna have to be tonight uggh so far behind on work stuffs and I still have to walk over to walmart and get my money order for the rent

[RachMarie]

uggh
I was going to replace out, but there is only about a day and a half left?

Ok will hold in there and really focus on this game tomorrow absolutely.

[RachMarie]

feel good about ran and grapes being town shannon also,

other than that not a lot been so swamped tween v/la and coming down sick this last weekend uggh.

[RachMarie]

Ok anyone who is actually GOOD at math please let me know where we actually are? Because I thought NM just hammered?

[RachMarie]

no you did your naked vote thingy which always makes me suspicious of you NM and if we were not on deadline I would be voting you right now.

[RachMarie]

oh ok thanks

Do we even have time to move to another wagon before DL?

I was going to replace out, but when I saw how little time was left and that mod would not give an extension I could not do that to you all.

[RachMarie]

Because right now NM is reminding me so much of rarefaction it is pinging me HARD

[RachMarie]

I generally do not unvote until I have a serious mafia case

Don't have a major case, but i do think NM is scummier than you are,

VOTE: NM

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67078 here is the rarefaction game

And yeah I was the one pushing hard on NM in that game, he is pinging me hard like he did in that game.

[RachMarie]

Did anyone actually LOOK at the game I posted where I caught scum NM in all his scumminess?

[RachMarie]

I think NM is scum

I will not let us end the day with a no lynch if at all possible

I would prefer to lynch a solid scum read who obviously I see as scummier than the main wagon.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

[RachMarie]

do you not read a solid scum read as scummier than another person who is not your solid scum read? Or do you read in absolutes?

[RachMarie]

Mostly wishing I had, had the time to post more back when the wagon was starting, now I am afraid I have no juice for getting a wagon on someone I think is more likely to be scum.

[RachMarie]

Since you all are so determined

PLEASE look at NM tomorrow I am sure he is scum

I am not so sure about MoI but we have 5 hours uggh

Did he ever claim?

[RachMarie]

INTENT TO HAMMER btw

[RachMarie]

Uggh sorry I fell asleep in front of my computer I fully intended to hammer MoI

so great both wagons yesterday were town

hmm going to take a look at the final lynch vote and see if I can figure out who is scum from that.

[RachMarie]

You know that does not exactly make my heart go pitta pat there NM, since that does not clear YOUR slot.

[RachMarie]

uggh give me a RL day or so I will be posting

under major work deadline, plus dealing with maintenance guy jerkface plus jerky landlord later today. Trying to pick up the apartment

[RachMarie]

I posted a couple of posts in site chat which require no thinking on my part, no ISO research, no rereading the thread and analyzing posts.

Seriously that is the best you can come up with?

[RachMarie]

Meh going back to my gut and my scum read

VOTE: NM

[RachMarie]

Yeah Aris dude why are you town leaning reading NM?

This feels very much like his play in rarefaction.

And NO ONE believed me for the longest time until FINALLY in the rarefaction phase they did.

[RachMarie]

uggh I thought I had posted in here recently

[RachMarie]

Meh not sure on ari but it is clear to me you all do not see NM as scumz though I do believe he IS.

I will ISO ari

[RachMarie]

@ NM

Do you have a habit of bussing as scum? Because part of my issue with the Ari wagon is you are on it.

[RachMarie]

meh I totally get it and you are right I have been totally useless in this game

I am VT so not a big loss

Still think NM is scum though, but doubt you all will see it til later.

He is probably bussing though so going with ari

Hence the reason I asked about if he bussed or not.

VOTE: Ari

[RachMarie]

Ari is at L-1, please give intent to hammer and give him a chance to claim and give reads n stuff

[RachMarie]

1. Because he is the type to bus and no one is supporting a NM lynch and I do not want to see a NL day this early in the game. It is bad juju.

2. Because I do that a lot in games when I feel like its clear I am being heavily scum read. And my activity has not been good I admit that, I almost replaced out at the end of the day yesterday, but we were so close to deadline and the mod made it clear he was not going to add extra time.

I still feel like replacing out of this game, between vlas, being sick, and being so far behind on work and stuffs. Plus fighting a massive depression downswing. Wrote a good poem though its on my GTKAS thread.

[RachMarie]

Plus shannon said I was at L-1 or L-2 so yeah figured I might as well claim.

[RachMarie]

I have the site zoomed in at 175% so I can read the font, and that means a LOT of scrolling.

[RachMarie]

Because right now NM is reminding me so much of rarefaction it is pinging me HARD

I generally do not unvote until I have a serious mafia case

Don't have a major case, but i do think NM is scummier than you are,

VOTE: NM

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67078 here is the rarefaction game

And yeah I was the one pushing hard on NM in that game, he is pinging me hard like he did in that game.

Did anyone actually LOOK at the game I posted where I caught scum NM in all his scumminess?

My case

[RachMarie]

I am vla due to work stuffs but I will check in periodically

[RachMarie]

BTD is currently at L-1

meh where did the time go I did not realize we were so close to deadline

[RachMarie]

INTENT TO HAMMER

[RachMarie]

meh if we only have 20 hours Besides Shannon made some good points.

I dont think I can swing enough votes on NM, but btd makes a better likely scum bud than Ari does

[RachMarie]

thats fine I understand I have been swamped and not active in this game.

Just tomorrow please take a look at shannon's case on btd and NM being a possible team together.

I am VT.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: BTD


Reads

Town (strongest to weakest)

Shannon
Ran
Tenshi
Ari

Scum (strongest to weakest)
NM
BTD

[RachMarie]

Not a hammer Ran unvoted and then voted me

Then I voted BTD and he is back at L-1

[RachMarie]

UNVOTE:

oh crap this is not good

[RachMarie]

VOTE: nm

[RachMarie]

NM is definitely my strongest scum read

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Ari

Sigh do we have enough to prevent a NL or not

[RachMarie]

umm btd is the doc and clearly the last scum went for tenshi over the doc which makes me wonder why.

I still say it is NM


VOTE: NM

[RachMarie]

wait we have two docs? that makes no sense BTD claimed even night doc

[RachMarie]

1. I thought Shannon made a good case.
2. I was concerned about us ending up with a NL
3. When BTD claimed, I immediately unvoted
4. When I saw that Ari could be lynched to prevent a NL, I went back to my gut read, and hammered.

It is as simple as that.

[RachMarie]

meh not really.

And no I am not 100% SURE on anyone really, but myself. If you all feel it is Ran, I will vote there over a NL. I have been really sick and am way behind on client work, which is why the long v/la. Trying to get over bronchitis with no cough syrup totally SUCKS and not in a good way

I still feel though it is more likely to be NM than to be Ran, but I will reread both their ISOs and see if I can get my head back in this game again.

[RachMarie]

Is this really devolving into a who has the bigger balls contest?

[RachMarie]

the fake hammer, the naked votes its more of a gut thing like I said.

Plus of course PoE

I have town on you, on BTD, and on Tenshii and I was town reading Ran early on. I have more doubts now.

And it seemed to me like the push on Ari was more of a bus push than a genuine scum read, but I will grant I have not been at my best in this game which is why I want to reread both their ISOs.

[RachMarie]

uggh

Shannon and btd are sold on it being Ran

Ran and NM are clearly not going to self vote

I guess I have no choice

I do not want to see a NL

INTENT TO HAMMER

Please if you guys are wrong about this please take a closer look at NM tomorrow.

[RachMarie]

wait tenshi is not voting why is that tenshi?

[RachMarie]

Sigh this game

[RachMarie]

Sigh this game

[RachMarie]

this is why I am sitting here feeling like I am hitting my head on a brick wall

NM says Ran is scum because Ran is scum
Ran says NM is scum and gives no reasons
Tenshii is not voting and not doing anything

The people on Ran are either convinced it is Ran or NM who of course is not going to self vote
The people on NM are either convinced it is NM or are Ran who is not going to self vote.

It feels like a Mexican standoff.

[RachMarie]

I am giving it another 24 hours, at that time if we have not made any more progress I will hammer Ran because I do not want to see a NL day, and I do not see a resolution any other way.

[RachMarie]

Shannon you unvoted?

[RachMarie]

oh ok still it is 2 days til DL I think another 24 hours is plenty of time if they keep refusing there is no point in having the clock running out and waiting and that gives us time if they DO say anything.

[RachMarie]

I will hammer

Simply because this day is been so insane and we need a flip, not as convinced it is him, and I definitely would take a serious look at NM tomorrow, as well as tenshii.


doc protect our even doc tyvm

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Ran

[RachMarie]

Not everyone trolls NM like for example I don't troll once I am hammered.

[RachMarie]

woahh

wow

Sorry NM I really did think you were scum.

[RachMarie]

Part of that though besides the rarefaction game, might be that fact you have Ted Cruz as your avatar

[RachMarie]

Thanks for modding Ircher and I am glad I stuck with it, I almost replaced out of this game just because so awfully sick.

[RachMarie]

Ted Cruz is scum just like Trump is

[RachMarie]

give the mod time he will unlock them

[RachMarie]

ahh you did a good job as the doc was kind of weird though having both a doc and an even night doc

[RachMarie]

ran you did a good job I really thought it was NM or maybe tenshii I felt pretty good about shannon being town and I knew I was town and BTD as well.

[RachMarie]

MoI I agree, I probably should have just replaced out

I was so sick in October it is not funny still recovering and I finally had to resort to antibiotics to do it. The fact that I was lacking cough syrup because I was so cash strapped plus too sick to go get some did NOT help. I had to get the money order for rent and I picked up two 12 oz bottles of Walmart brand dayquil so I am set for a bit now woot.

It was the first month I did not meet my fiance goals either, I only made half of what I wanted to earn for the month which meant not much left over after I paid the bills Having to spend 17.50 to get a new debit card expedited to me by Monday or Tues at the latest for my personal account did NOT help either. Seems somehow in between getting the money order and finishing shopping and getting to the register at Walmart my personal debit card turned up missing

Hopefully I make at least most of my finance goal this month and dig myself back up out of the hole that was October. Luckily my first launch and list building project with my joint venture partner is coming up and that will bring in another more substantial stream of income in addition to my ghostwriting. Not huge at first, but over time the income from it, even split between my and my JV partner, plus the expenses for affiliates and so on, will be far more than I can make just from my own ghostwriting and allow me to over time give that part to other writers and focus more on other things like my own books.

[RachMarie]

yes I know, and thanks dude I do enjoy playing with you

[RachMarie]

Umm who is Rachel

I don't know that chick

I am Rach or Rachael

[RachMarie]

I am a team player in the end, whatever my own thoughts are. And I figured if you were wrong and i was right, we could lynch NM the next day.