Micro 656: Dem Tryouts 4 - GAME OVER

[ThinkBig]

Hello everyone! I am pleased to be able to join the game and replace Yume! Good luck!

[ThinkBig]

Wow that's a scummy af replace in, we're killing ThinkBig now

VOTE: thinkbig

OMGUS

VOTE: RB

I'll get my OMGUS out of the way before the game begins

[ThinkBig]

Good afternoon everyone!! I'm just catching up.

VOTE: The_Jester

The DP just started and I do not feel comfortable with him pressing a Verdith lynch already. I also don't like post #47.

[ThinkBig]

The_Jester is at L-2.

(Thought I'd point this out so he doesn't get hammered by accident).

[ThinkBig]

The_Jester is at L-2.

(Thought I'd point this out so he doesn't get hammered by accident).

Let's try to shake things up.

VOTE: thinkbig

Trying to show how town you are?

In games that I've played off site, I sometimes post unofficial vote counts or mention when someone is close to being lynched. This is mainly for my benefit so I can see an updated post count and so someone doesn't get hammered accidentally (and I've seen that happen before).

[ThinkBig]

Vote Vedith tho

Would you please stop trolling? This type of behaviour and play will only hurt town.

[ThinkBig]

@think The way you did it rubs me the wrong way though.

Why is that?

[ThinkBig]

Vote Vedith tho

Would you please stop trolling? This type of behaviour and play will only hurt town.

I'm not trolling. Help me lynch Vedith and you'll thank me later

Give me one good reason to vote Vedith.

[ThinkBig]

Vote Vedith tho

Would you please stop trolling? This type of behaviour and play will only hurt town.

I'm not trolling. Help me lynch Vedith and you'll thank me later

Give me one good reason to vote Vedith.

He's scum

Proof?

[ThinkBig]

Lol that post was pretty bad by TB

TB vote Vedith or I'll kick you out of my townbloc

Infinity give him a break, he's newbtown

Are you really trying to manipulate him here?

As long as it leads to lynching you, yeah

Your attempt to manipulate me and trying to get me to vote verdith is obviously not working (and it won't work with me)!

[ThinkBig]

Damn you're good

I might be a newb, but I'm not stupid.

[ThinkBig]

Hey guys, important facts.

Four of you are scum. Three of you are town. This is the sort of target rich environment where I'm super duper happy lynching a non-contributor.

Actually four town and four total scum (two opposing scum teams).

I agree 100% with what you said. I'm also comfortably lynching poor play and trolling, which is what Jester seems to be doing.

[ThinkBig]

But I'm one of the townies Big. Are you?

And I'm not lynching him for poor play or trolling. I'm lynching him for the oldest multiball tell in the book.

Yup. I am indeed town.

[ThinkBig]

Really?

So how many players are you unsure of the alignment of?

Not sure what you mean by this question.

(It's almost 1:30 am and I am falling asleep)

[ThinkBig]

How many players in this game do you have questions about the alignment of? How many players in this game would you potentially vote for?

Infinity 324 - Slight town
The_Jester - Scum
GreyICE - Slight town
Aeronaut - Slight scum
Flames682 - null
ThinkBig - Town (doh)
Verdith - Slight scum
rb - Null

Those are my current reads. I'd be willing to vote for any of the ones that I have a scum read on, or a null read on to pressure them. I don't like the inactivity coming from some people

[ThinkBig]

Greetings! Just getting back from school. Catching up now.

[ThinkBig]

If you guys are town, this is the worst town play I've seen

[ThinkBig]

^Policy lynch this.

There are 3 other townies other than myself. If you're town, then you're going to be seriously hurting us

[ThinkBig]

Yes, Jester, I know exactly what a policy lynch is.

[ThinkBig]

Catching up now.

Spoiler: The Wall of Why

SCUM NEED TO READ THIS!

So discussion time! The nature of this setup is a prisoner's dilemma. If it were a 4:2 then the town's chances of winning would be sub 30%. Even a 3:1 is pretty bad for town. So if Scumteam A decides to shoot at townies and Scumteam B shoots Scumteam A, then B is handed a free win.

This is so you understand the nature of the game. Your best shot at winning is to eliminate the other Scumteam as rapidly as possible, and then reap the benefits of an unbalanced setup. The best best case is to do it through dayay so they don't even have a shot at you and you look super town. The worst case is you shoot townies and then die like chumps, having handed the other team the win. This is a game where scum should be shooting Flames (if he's not your buddy) over ThinkBig.

Why am I telling you this? Because if you play the game like standard scum, the town loses with you. It's only the other scum who benefit.

Why would you give the scum team pointers as to how to win the game?

No we shouldn't.
Sorry to disappoint you Vedith. I too wanted to roll scum this time but the rng gods were unkind to me.

My scumbuddy's Vedith, I'm voting him to distance

Why the hell did you fake claim saying that your buddy is Vedith, then go on to say that you wish you were scum?

Spoiler: Scum reads

As of right now, my top scum reads are:

• Verdith
  
• GreyIce
  
• Jester
  
• Infinity

[ThinkBig]

At this point, I think the best bet is to lynch either jester or grey. I'm comfortable with either.

[ThinkBig]

@shos, can we get an updated VC?

...is at the top of the page

[ThinkBig]

Can someone please hammer Jester?

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: Greyice

This is a better vote than Jester

Why do you think grey is a better lynch? They're both currently at L2 and I'd be willing to lynch either.

[ThinkBig]

I am back from V/LA. I am catching up now.

[ThinkBig]

I'm catching up now.

If we were to not lynch and wait for DP2. We can hope that the two scum teams shoot at each other, leaving only one scum from each team. The caveat to this is if both scum teams shoot at townies. This leaves us with 4 scum vs 2 town, which will make it very difficult for town to win.

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: NO LYNCH

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: No Lynch
No point hoping

Next DP you are getting lynched.

[ThinkBig]

The fact that gamma quickly hammered for a no lynch proves to me that he is scum. We will lynch him next DP

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: Gamma

For hammering before giving an intent to hammer, as well as ending the DP pre maturely.

[ThinkBig]

Post 254-255 - This looks like a newbie genuinely scumhunting. In nonmultiball this would be a townclaim. @ThinkBig From a meta perspective, keep up the good work. I remember being new to this site, and this reminds me of that.

Thank you for the encouragemen! The game can be a bit intimidating at first, but I feel that I'm starting to get the hang (pun intended) of it.

[ThinkBig]

Post 399 - This looks like a scumslip. Does not know Townies are BP? After all this? I can see not paying attention to setup, I can see missing the discussion, but missing your role PM? Nah. Scumpoint. Finally have a good starting point for ThinkBig

Post 408 - There it is. As much as bullying is scummy, acquiescing to threats instead of sticking to your guns is worse. Added on top of a NL vote like that? Yeah, I'm getting a scum vibe from ThinkBig now.

I want to address these points here. First, I had forgotten that this was an open game and that townies were 1-shot bulletproof (possibly from me in too many games. Three here, one off-site).

I also wanted to justify my VTNL. While I do not like the fact that Gamma came in and hammered without warning, and thus ending the DP prematurely, I believe that in light of the point above, that we have made the right decision - especially granted that one scum died last night.

There are now 4 townies vs. 3 total scum. Town has good odds in this.

I do believe the last remaining scums are Jester, Gamma, and probably either Vedith or Aeronaut.

[ThinkBig]

V/LA until Monday around 10:30 PM.

I will still be on periodically and will take a part in the game, but my college work takes precedents and I have a lot of school work to do.

[ThinkBig]

Ok Pine isn't scum A

Part of this here is why I have an FOS on you. You seem to be trolling the game and not taking it seriously. It's very difficult to work with a player such as yourself.

[ThinkBig]

I wasn't the NL hammer: TB was.

No. Your vote was the hammer.

[ThinkBig]

No Lynch - GuiltyLion, Infinity 324, Aeronaut, ThinkBig
As per the rules, No Lynch is 4 to hammer with 8 alive, and as such, this day ends.
I was fifth. To accuse me of hammering is incredibly scummy.

UNVOTE: Gamma

I do apologize, but I didn't realise it takes a simple majority for a no lynch and also didn't realise that I was the hammer. With that, I rescend my vote.

[ThinkBig]

what are you talking about

Are you even paying attention to the game?

[ThinkBig]

You're that guy who had a meltdown in that one Space Invaders game and ruined it for everyone! Fun fun

VOTE: Aeronaut

Seriously. That's inappropriate.

[ThinkBig]

Prod received. Will post tonight when I get home.

[ThinkBig]

Catching up now. I am fairly confident from what I have seen that Jester and Vedith are scum.

Intent to hammer

[ThinkBig]

Vote: Vedith

[ThinkBig]

Thanks @mod for ending the NP early.

We have one team down, 6 town and 2 scum. We really need to lynch correctly this DP. I'll provide a better analysis when I get home, but for now, I am strongly leaning towards a GL/Jester team.

See you guys this afternoon.

[ThinkBig]

If anyone has any questions about my hammer, I was pretty confident that Vedith was scum after re-analyzing DP 1 and after infinity's flip. Pine's post had me convinced. Looks like he was correct.

[ThinkBig]

I'm fairly confident Jester is scum. One thing we should do is go back and see who is defending who as scum is most likely going to defend their buddy in a game like this (much like infinity and vedith).

[ThinkBig]

Though at the same time, I also have a slight FOS on Pine. I don't think the two would be aligned as scum. One of them is town.

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: Jester

Scum=Confirmed

[ThinkBig]

The only one nervous is you.

[ThinkBig]

Hey @Jester, who's your scum buddy? GL or aero?

[ThinkBig]

Gamma and Pine are my biggest town reads. If Jester flips scum, then that pretty much will clear Pine.

[ThinkBig]

^Aero, Gamma, tell me you're not buying this bullshit. He's writing off outright cognitive dissonance as "Oh I didn't mean it"

I certainly don't buy it. Not one bit.

[ThinkBig]

Honestly if this was a normal game (i.e. Not multi ball) and not MyLo, I would almost push for a policy lynch on Jester

[ThinkBig]

I agree. He has been mostly trolling and obnoxious this entire game and nearly impossible to read. For he record, I absolutely do think he is scum.

[ThinkBig]

Interesting point. Though greyICE was one of my strongest town reads before he flipped out.

[ThinkBig]

^^I just went back and saw that greyICE did actually vote Jester.

[ThinkBig]

Jester is at L-1

[ThinkBig]

@Guilty Lion was obviously a quick hammering scum. Fuck you GL.

[ThinkBig]

If a miracle happens and there's a DP4, I'm going full out for a GL lynch!

[ThinkBig]

Seriously! At least I gave intent, and at least the person I hammered was a scum.

[ThinkBig]

@GL - who's your partner? Pine or Aero?

[ThinkBig]

^^^ Then why didn't you post it before a QH scum?

[ThinkBig]

Gg everyone! Had Jester not have been so scummy and obnoxious, town would most likely have won.

[ThinkBig]

I feel like I've played fairly poorly, but I feel that I am getting better at the game and starting to understand it a lot better. I should not have quickly VTNL'd and probably shouldn't have hammered Vedith the way I did, though I was thoroughly convinced Vedith was scum.

I wish we had taken time to get rid of one of scum B, then lynch vedith as both scums would be aligned against each other.

[ThinkBig]

@GreyICE - Thank you. I wish I didn't have to go V/LA as often and as long as I did, but I feel liike I did well.

Thanks for the encouragement!

[ThinkBig]

@GreyICE, generally no lynching would be a terrible mistake. However, in multi-ball games with townies being 1-shot bulletproof, it may be better to no lynch and hope scum shoot each other (as scum B did to scum A in this game).

[ThinkBig]

Good point. Had Jester been lynched, we probably would have caught Pine/GL before it was too late.

Vedith's reads on Pine was very good.

[ThinkBig]

TB and Aero are to blame for following the NL idea
I WAS DEAD ON WITH MY GL/INFINITY DICHOTOMY

Uh, no. ML idea got us a dead scum, and no dead townies after night 1. We would have likely mislynched Jester anyhow.

And not to be rude or anything, but if you're gonna blame us with that reasoning, you also jumped right the fuck onto that NL at the end sooooo

Though my vote was the hammer