Micro 656: Dem Tryouts 4 - GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi
Reasons why scumreads on me are bullshit coming soon

[Gamma Emerald]

SCUM NEED TO READ THIS!

So discussion time! The nature of this setup is a prisoner's dilemma. If it were a 4:2 then the town's chances of winning would be sub 30%. Even a 3:1 is pretty bad for town. So if Scumteam A decides to shoot at townies and Scumteam B shoots Scumteam A, then B is handed a free win.

This is so you understand the nature of the game. Your best shot at winning is to eliminate the other Scumteam as rapidly as possible, and then reap the benefits of an unbalanced setup. The best best case is to do it through dayay so they don't even have a shot at you and you look super town. The worst case is you shoot townies and then die like chumps, having handed the other team the win. This is a game where scum should be shooting Flames (if he's not your buddy) over ThinkBig.

Why am I telling you this? Because if you play the game like standard scum, the town loses with you. It's only the other scum who benefit.

Why would I share this with the other scum team?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would I share this with the other scum team?

You didn't, Grey did.
And it was a completely shit post.
It's scum minded to look town.

The fuck?
Seriously, that's much better saved for the scum PT.
And your idea of "people trying to look town are scum" is complete BS

[Gamma Emerald]

Whatever, I'll push what

I

think is scum.
VOTE: ThinkBig

[Gamma Emerald]

His play feels LAMIST.

[Gamma Emerald]

So?

[Gamma Emerald]

The_Jester is at L-2.

(Thought I'd point this out so he doesn't get hammered by accident).

Not really helpful.

Vote Vedith tho

Would you please stop trolling? This type of behaviour and play will only hurt town.

You can't say that for certain.
Both posts look more like trying to look town than finding scum. He also likes to constantly reassert his towniness.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not really helpful.

Can only town be helpful, and scum only unhelpful?

I mean he's trying to look helpful without doing real work.

[Gamma Emerald]

Or scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is that a meta comment? Because meta changes.

[Gamma Emerald]

I like the attitude towards hunting else where though.

What do you think of GuiltyLion/RB?

I think rb might be scum, I didn't see his townplay here I think.

[Gamma Emerald]

However I can understand why GL would want a no-lynch.
I just think we have a high enough chance of lynching scum that NL is not my first choice.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am back from V/LA. I am catching up now.

How is this going?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also if TB doesn't happen I'd be fine lynching Jester

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not saying I townread you for that post
I just understand why people on either side would want to NL
It's a NAI post of yours

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not saying I townread you for that post
I just understand why people on either side would want to NL
It's a NAI post of yours

why would scum want to NL when lynching is their best way to get rid of opposition (town and other scum)

To avoid having their team lose a member
I'd rather lynch TB anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

I just want to lynch scum
Please grant my wish

[Gamma Emerald]

Are bulletproofs informed if they are hit?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Infinity kinda feels like scum to me

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads
{Vedith}
{Aero}
{Flames, Jester}
{Infinity, GL}
{TB}

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith seems town because his actions so far feel towny
Tone reading is awesome

[Gamma Emerald]

With 3 votes for no lynch only the NLers become viable lynches
If Aero votes NL I'm voting GL

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Gamma Emerald]

Town have a 4/7 chance of lynching scum
And even if GL flips Town I have a read I can take to the bank at that point

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch GL
If it flips Town scum will have to kill me so I don't out one of them

[Gamma Emerald]

This is the best lynch from my perspective
If GL flips town Infinity is likely scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Now I outed it already
Lynch GL if you think it is scum
If you think it is Town lynch Infinity

[Gamma Emerald]

All town are 1-shot bulletproof

[Gamma Emerald]

This is the best lynch from my perspective
If GL flips town Infinity is likely scum

Why

Enforcing a false dichotomy

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: No Lynch
No point hoping

[Gamma Emerald]

Important game events:

<nothing yet>

Playerlist:

Infinity 324
The_Jester

GreyICE

Gamma Emerald
Aeronaut

Flames682

Pine
ThinkBig
Vedith

rb

GuiltyLion

Setup Description

This is the FOURTH run of my setup, which is a micro-multiball, the first ever, or at least the first balanced one.

Previous runs:
#1 - closed setup, 7p: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=65225
#2 - open setup, 7p: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67199
#3 - open setup, 8p: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=67983
The last run was exactly as it is now.

The setup

Scum A goon
Scum A roleblocker

Scum B goon
Scum B roleblocker

4x one-shot BP townies

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• GAME RULES - READ THOROUGHLY - THIS IS IMPORTANT
  
  
  
• This is my color(#800000) - Do not use it.
  
  
• PLAY TO YOUR WIN CONDITION. If you don't, it ruins everyone's game, I will force-replace and report you immediately. Note that

  all

  and

  any

  actions that you do have to count as supporting your win condition.
  

• [*] Although not as awesome as <insert something really awesome here>, I am pretty awesome, and as such, my word is LAW. However, I make mistakes too. You can PM me or bold corrections in thread. I will try to read everything, but I will never miss bolded stuff.
  
  

  Activity:

  
  [*] This is a Micro. If you don't participate, it hurts everyone. Be an active participant in this game. Players who have not posted for 2 days [48 hours] will be prodded.
  [*] After a prod is sent, players have 1 day [24 hours] to respond IN-THREAD in some *actual* way - not just a prod-dodge - or they will be replaced. The 'not just a prod-dodge' is obviously my decision.
  [*] On a third prod I might force-replace you, that will depend on me and me alone, in consideration with the game's state and activity.
  [*] Anything directed at me should be bolded, even larged or huged if you want.
  [*] You may also PM me at any time; I will try to answer via phone or computer ASAP.
  [*] After a night, prods will be issued 36 hours from day start.
  
  

  Days:

  
  [*] Days will last a maximum of two weeks [336 hours]. If a lynch is reached before that time, the day will end as soon as I lock the thread.
  [*] Everyone, including lynchees, may continue posting until I lock the thread.
  
  

  Nights:

  
  [*] Nights will be 2 days [48 hours] long.
  [*] Night extensions will only be made for replacement finding, or any other circumstances which I deem worthy.
  [*] Players may request any deadline extensions for the night, with reasoning attached. Note that I may decline.
  [*] The above request can be sent (with reasoning) in-thread for day extension too, or of course in a PM to me.
  [*] If you have a night action and did not submit anything until night's end - I will count this as you doing nothing. If compulsive, it will be decided randomly.
  
  

  Votes:

  
  [*] Votes will only be counted if they are in any of these formats:
  

  Vote: Shos

  
  

  Vote: No Lynch

  
  VOTE: Shos
  VOTE: No Lynch
  [*] Unvotes are not necessary.
  
  [*] If no lynch has been reached by the Day deadline - nobody will be lynched.
  [*] For a lynch to happen, half the votes+1 are required on one wagon.
  [*] For a forced no-lynch to happen, The amount needed is just enough to prevent a lynch from happening. If an even number of players are alive, that is one less than the amount for a lynch.
  [*] If that happens - the day will immediately end with no lynch.
  
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Scum Role PMs will look like this:

Goon/Roleblocker

Welcome, <Player Name>!

<info about partner and PT with daytalk>

Your abilities:

<factional nightkill>
<Roleblocker ability, if this is the Roleblocker>

Your win condition:

You win if your faction is the last one standing, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Good luck!

Town Role PMs will look like this:

Bulletproof

Welcome, player!!

You are a town 1-shot BP.

Your abilities:

If you are shot at night, the first time you are hit will hit your bulletproof vest. You will not be informed of this.
If you are shot twice, even if in the same night, you die.

Your win condition:

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Good luck!

Well then.
Looks like some people were WRONG.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oops.
Didn't mean to do that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking GL is not Infinity's partner.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wasn't the NL hammer: TB was.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

For hammering before giving an intent to hammer, as well as ending the DP pre maturely.

VOTE: ThinkBig
For being a damn dirty hypocrite.

[Gamma Emerald]

No Lynch - GuiltyLion, Infinity 324, Aeronaut, ThinkBig
As per the rules, No Lynch is 4 to hammer with 8 alive, and as such, this day ends.
I was fifth. To accuse me of hammering is incredibly scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can I be a doublevoter

[Gamma Emerald]

You're that guy who had a meltdown in that one Space Invaders game and ruined it for everyone! Fun fun

Seriously. That's inappropriate.

Yeah it is. I apologize. I just don't like it when players make the game toxic on purpose.

What if they're scum

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems Aero's main issue was the NL thing. I figured that if GL flipped town Infinity was confscum so I went for that.

[Gamma Emerald]

The main reason I was pushing for a GL lynch yesterday was because I figured if GL flipped town Infinity had a good chance of flipping scum.
As for my no lynch vote, I gave up since there were 4 people left not NLing. I didn't think about this idea at the time but the attempt to quickhammer may have drawn a nightkill to me, so that's a plus.

[Gamma Emerald]

He missed you

[Gamma Emerald]

@Pine- to confirm you think Gamma is...?

@rest. I'm thinking of lynching outside of Pine and Gamma.
They are obviously a scum team. Lynching the solo scum gives us 1 less kill, a useless scum role and unknown knowledge to who has and hasn't got a BP from a scum side.

Down with this
But I'm watching you

[Gamma Emerald]

Aero TB is my lynchpool for now
Willing to vote Jester or GL if necessary

[Gamma Emerald]

@Pine- to confirm you think Gamma is...?

@rest. I'm thinking of lynching outside of Pine and Gamma.
They are obviously a scum team. Lynching the solo scum gives us 1 less kill, a useless scum role and unknown knowledge to who has and hasn't got a BP from a scum side.

Down with this
But I'm watching you

and this reply strongly points to Gamma as scum, chomping at the bit for the free mislynch

@Aero, @ThinkBig, @Jester

- Vedith/Pine/Gamma today. I'd like to do Vedith imo, for the reasons as laid out by Vedith

I know I'm town
I tr Pine

[Gamma Emerald]

^Aero, Gamma, tell me you're not buying this bullshit. He's writing off outright cognitive dissonance as "Oh I didn't mean it"

It points to TB/Jester for me

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I haven't been voting because it's MyLo. I want to be sure.
I'm pretty sure at this point actually.
VOTE: Jester

[Gamma Emerald]

FUCK

[Gamma Emerald]

I knew Inf/Vedith shot me
I KNEW

[Gamma Emerald]

If I'd had my way Day One we'd have lynched a B scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

TB and Aero are to blame for following the NL idea
I WAS DEAD ON WITH MY GL/INFINITY DICHOTOMY

[Gamma Emerald]

TB and Aero are to blame for following the NL idea
I WAS DEAD ON WITH MY GL/INFINITY DICHOTOMY

Uh, no. ML idea got us a dead scum, and no dead townies after night 1. We would have likely mislynched Jester anyhow.

And not to be rude or anything, but if you're gonna blame us with that reasoning, you also jumped right the fuck onto that NL at the end sooooo

TB was hammer dummy
I only did it to posibbly absorb nightkills

[Gamma Emerald]

Of course GL/me dichotomy was likely, most dichotomies in the game were likely

Still have no idea what your reasoning was for that

Anyway wp scum B. I thought both you guys were town.

GL did you really believe NL was good for town?

I figured if both me and GL were town you'd likely be scum as you would be able to make that call about rb/Grey being not aligned and potentially earn a free townie death once one flips town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah
I deleted my role PM before I could read it so I had the ability to replace in