Micro 657: Vanillite Mafia (Game Over!)
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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Well, this clears you from being scum at least.In post 617, Postie wrote:It's okay Vedith, Aero's scum.
If Shannon posts before 1 of them unvote and doesn't hammer, we have the scum team.I claim scum \o/-
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So this is where I am at.
Postie is confirmed scum to everyone now. Could have hammered me, and I could have hammered Aero (meaning we cannot be a scum team).
At this stage it seems like a distancing vote, just after Creature is showing focus else where (Only Creature and Aero voting Alg).In post 100, Aeronaut wrote:i really would like to lynch algebra tbh
This is called sitting on the fence.In post 105, shannon wrote:Algebra's ISO looks scummy so far, with the wagon hopping,but I don't know whether scum would be that obvious?He is even newer than I am so maybe it's newbie scum and the partner isn't around to give advice? Null leaning slightly to scum
This is so bad, just after discussion of hammering Shannon won't L1 Alg.In post 106, shannon wrote:I would vote Algebra but I don't want anyone at L-1 yet. So onward up the list I go.
VOTE: Flames
Instead votes for an easier lynch and puts them to L2 instead.
Seems to not like L1 on Alg, given that L1 wasn't stated but this looks like Shannon is pushing for deflection.In post 120, shannon wrote:@Dark Horse why didn't you announce L-1 on Algebra? And why have you voted there, given that you've tunnelled me all day but have said almost nothing (I don't want to say nothing in case I missed one) about him?
Aero returns back at 155 with Alg at L1. He doesn't shy away from his vote, however, with everyone being aware of the hammer situation, L1 isn't overally a threat imo at this stage and Aero gets a lot more town cred late game for staying on the wagon 9/10.
What I don't like here is that Aero has already decided that Alg is town by posting this. He doesn't take in consideration that Postie or Shannon are the buddies of Alg (Strongly suggests Aero and Shannon team here)In post 160, Aeronaut wrote:because it would have been really easy for you to come in and say "Yeah I agree Algebra is scum" and just intent to hammer, and most people in this game wouldn't suspect you for it
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Has Alg in the same area as DH in the reads, but doesn't actually say scum like he does on DH, yet voting Aero and keeping him on L1 without pushing him?
175 - Here we go, Aero changes vote, casually leaving Alg back on L2.
Took long enough considering he already thinks Alg is town!!!
163 - Over explaining here, seems forced and fake.
The whole back and forth with Postie and Aero is just Aero panicking as scum.
184 - I'm not even sure with this...
Skipping forward of that
Here we go, Shannon going for the both town tactic, lets look else where thing...In post 227, shannon wrote:I agree with this, and I think you're in a TvT battle.
Some posts of Shannon 227 228 - I don't even know where Shannon stands on scum right now... Has the 3 main posters as town. That leaves 3 people left to be scum for her and not even a vote?!?!
Gets ignored?In post 236, Postie wrote:@shannon - Why are you townreading Aero?
259 - I mean, we have the scum reads, right? But still no push or focus towards these, just seems more concerned on convincing Postie.
263 - This is dreadful, he doesn't have any concern on Shannon not scum hunting.
Skipping forward more
414 - Doesn't care as long as it's not on Shannon or Aero I guess...
In post 437, Postie wrote:And if TB isn't scum then the team's shannon-Aero in which case we've already lost.In post 437, Postie wrote:And if TB isn't scum then the team's shannon-Aero in which case we've already lost.
In post 437, Postie wrote:And if TB isn't scum then the team's shannon-Aero in which case we've already lost.
Aero's hammer was shit. THIS IS NOT TOWN!!!
527 - Are you serious?
548 - ...
557 - ...
591 - ...
Aero and Shannon are scum.
Take my vote as if it's on Aero.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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Keep this in mind going into the night phase.In post 624, Vedith wrote:Postie is confirmed scum to everyone now.I claim scum \o/-
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Why not?
You are obviously going to claim to be town, correct?
This means in your eyes there are 2 scum in me, Shannon and alg (Postie is proven town).
Now, me and AlgCAN'Tbe scum together in your eyes meaning that Shannon has to be scum to you.
I haven't lynched you, so I can't be scum as you town. That means that only Alg and Shannon can be scum to you.
Tell me again how that makes zero sense.
Now, with Shannon, she will also believe that scum is in me, you or Alg (Postie confirmed).
I haven't hammered, so me and Alg can't be scum together. This means you are confirmed scum in Shannon's eyes.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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You are at L1. If me and Postie are scum buddies, I can lynch you and we win the game.In post 635, Aeronaut wrote:That only makes sense when you two aren't buddies
And you're buddies, like I said 100 timesI claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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You didn't post when I had votes on me.In post 639, shannon wrote:
Uh and I also could have voted anyone at any point, so it's not me?In post 627, Vedith wrote:I mean town obviously.
Postie is confirmed town as she could have voted me, meaning only me and her can be scum if she is, and I could have voted you.
(PS - the post I quoted above came at 4:19 AM my time, so as you were waiting for me to 'post before someone else and not hammer', you kind of mistimed that as I was in ZazzzZzzz land)
You are not clear.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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Wrong.In post 644, shannon wrote:I think Vedith is trying to convince you that you should vote Aero or me, because TB isn't scum.
I'm saying that everyone's road points to Aero scum.
I am saying we lynch Aero.
You are tomorrow's lynch though.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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How? Clearing people as scum isn't bright to do.In post 643, Postie wrote:Vedith, convince me you aren't bussing real quick so I can pretend you're conftown.
And the 2 people saying you can be scum should say enough.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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Well, it's plausible from your point of view. But that would also mean that Aero was pushing my lynch over others today where a mis lynch is what scum want.
He didn't unvote me until Alg did, and his unvote was obivously for credit. Just unlucky for them Shannon hadn't posted at the time.
The only scum teams it is possible to be
Aero / Me
Aero / Alg
Aero / Shannon
The way Wyvernite and Aero discussed to the way Aero and Shannon did is a big strong tell in itself too though.
But the main factor here... Shannon has shown willing to vote you today. If me and Aero were scum, I could have posted a bullshit case on you, push to vote you and even let Shannon believe I was bussing where Aero could then hammer.
Lets face it, these guys were never going to work out why you're confirmed town.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Super_VanillaIn post 657, shannon wrote:Another thing that just occurred to me - Are we sure this is a 2 person scum team? Newbie games are 7:2 and considered balanced with a max of 2 town PRs. If this is 5:2 and we've flipped a cop, we must have more power back there somewhere. Or - Is it possible that this is 6:1 and the scum has some kind of mechanic that helps? Like a dodge or something? IDK how this works but it seems weird that 7:2 and 5:2 could both be seen as balanced.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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I was a reaplcement and lynched day 1, what's your point on this?
I claim scum \o/-
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Change of tune, eh?In post 668, shannon wrote:I'm happy to see the back of AeronautI claim scum \o/-
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Don't be bad.In post 683, algebra wrote:This must be a set up for the partner. Since postie is town, I think it has to be vedith
It's already proven to be Aero and Shannon.
If I was scum, kill you, leave Postie to play the reverse I would leave Postie blah blah and instant win and Postie was never lynching me over Shannon.
Shannon was trying to push away from Postie being confirmed and even tried to push for only 1 scum. It doesn't take a genius to add 1+1.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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Because you was never at L1?In post 696, shannon wrote:Why on earth did you not lynch me yesterday then, instead of whatsisface?
And pushing to you would have been a lot harder considering Aero was confirmed scum. Lynching probably scum over confirmed scum means I get lynched.I claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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In fairness, so many scum kill to setup players these days it's hard to take at face value.In post 707, ThinkBig wrote:This was a fun game and enjoyed it, even though it sucks getting lynched on DP1. Didn't DH tell you guys not to let Vedith's slot live through DP2? There's a reason he was NK'd!I claim scum \o/
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