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what's wrong with that? sounds good to meIn post 13, Secret Agent Jin wrote: Thats where my vote is going, he is underachieving.
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classic procrastination evidence
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this sounds like the beginning of a joke
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sounds like it should be disciplinedIn post 36, Dunnstral wrote:it was a dumb/bad hydra
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I should go find my cattle prod...
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it hurt me though ):In post 43, Dunnstral wrote:Good thing I posted in the middle there to stop drealmerz reign of post terror
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will see, we're only 9 and bound to get fewer (unless we just no lynch D1 and lynch someone later?)
and I like to mix it up
not going to do it annoying so I think I know how to keep a good balance and fun, and your concern is noted, but I'ma still have to do me and if that is some streams, please try not to let it bother you until it bothers you (like sometimes ppl anticipate a problem incoming and make a problem before it's a problem)-
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I think it just depends on the player and the circumstances and in general is NAI, but in this instance, I feel that it feels overdone and a bit forced, however, that could just be the awkwardness of the RPing coming through. Some ppl just "play it" and it doesn't come off well, town or scum. Not trying to disuade your vote, just saying, I see what you're feeling and I agree it feels not quite right, but I'm not sure it is scum. I'll probably vote him later depending!-
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to be fully transparant, I missed the i in think and automatically started to go back to fix it, and then caught myself and stopped fixing it and made the postIn post 61, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is trying too hard.In post 53, drealmerz7 wrote:but I won't over do it I thnk
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I see I missed my "i" in think, but, I'ma not go back and fix it, that's for those get-the-job-done types
tl,dr: effort was here
VOTE: drealmerz
but, I see what you mean, that was trying too hard to not try hard, bad move, cause I did MORE work
I assure you though
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QH only done by scum, if there is one we'll lynch them tomorrow as sure scum
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we don't even have 15 regulars really hahaIn post 123, Gamma Emerald wrote:For my HS, 24p is STANDARD.-
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my HS has a good number of really exceptional players
I don't want to share it publicly, sorry, I'd rather not be meta-mined or whatever else (have some shameful games too! woo!)
in SMURFIA I was scum with nacho and he kicked butt and I did meh okay - tammy has played on there too (game I modded)
our pace is generally 1-2 week Days and 3-5 day Nights
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1.) Nope, I'm intent on voting my top SR, that is you. I can't help you're at L-1, sorry. Talk to the others on your wagon about that.In post 129, Infinite Justice wrote:1.) You seem to be intent on at least starting to end the day. Having someone claim is sometimes followed by a lynch. Point is, 2.)I don't see a reason to start working towards a lynch unless the deadline is near or the game is going slow...
2.) That's interesting because I think it makes sense to work towards a lynch when I think I've found scum. That's not a factor for you?-
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1.) for me it is completely natural, no matter the circumstance: if you're at L-1, you fucking claim (if you're town, also if you're scum because smartscum try to be towny and town always should claim imo), because of the potential for QH, because it shows your desire to shake the wagon and not lose your role/vote/view to a lynch - to me you're trying to force the game into a "stage" that it is not in, you're at L-1, that is the primary thing, regardless of what other conceptions you might hold about how it "should" be, how it is is you're at L-1 and should be claiming so that we can judge whether to stay on you or get off.In post 138, Infinite Justice wrote: 1.) it seems very weird and unnatural to me that you'd ask for a claim in a game that's progressing yet still in its early stages. Try to explain?
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PEdit: 2.) I don't see how you're confident you've found scum based on this much reasoning, and even if there was a confirmed scum right now I'd wait to progress the day much further before lynching them because 3.) I believe d1 content is very important for later days. Maybe that's just me, but I want to try to understand why you disagree in this instance and I don't think you explained it properly.
2.) I often don't function on pure "reasoning" - this is mafia and to me it is a lot of behavioral analysis, motivations, associations, attitude, the genuineness I feel in it all - there's a combination of these things that lead me to intuit that you are scum, it's a skill I'm usually good with, there's not much reason to it a lot of time, it gets me SR a lot because I try to push a read like this and it doesn't often go over well because I don't know how to go about it so well when it's like this - the main thing is, I am confident in voting you as scum. I know I'm town. I know I have town's best interests in me, and I know that it is not good to vote without that feeling of confidence. I don't vote without confidence/comfort in a vote. If I feel this good about it, I'm sticking with it. No doubt. It serves me well. often.
3.) I agree but that is a generalization and a stalling or muddying of things as the day progresses is also something scum often will do when town is on the right track "wait wait, we're moving too fast! how can we be so sure they're scum so soon?" well we can't be SO SURE, but it's D1, and there's nothing TO KNOW, and if you've got comfort in a vote, go for it, give the reasons the best you can, and move forward. Everyone at their own pace, certainly, but don't halt your pace based on someone else asserting taht you shouldn't be advancing the game yet. That's ridiculous.
Again, the Day has not ended, has it? There is content generating, right now, so, quit balking the advancement of the game.
I mean, fuck:
In post 118, drealmerz7 wrote:can you give a fuller assessment of BNL?
explain yourself damnit geeezuz cause this is just all sorts of off and wrong and then I look at your early early early posts interaction with BNL (heyyy, you pointed this thing out about that player, but not about me, ehehemmmm) - and then not much from BNLIn post 119, Infinite Justice wrote: And no I can't give a fuller assessment of BnL, because I don't have enough to read him off of.
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*blush*In post 140, Gamma Emerald wrote: I want to play with you.-
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yep I understand there's a good number of those, that sort of play doesn't appeal at all, nor is it conducive to what I can doIn post 146, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
You think you have a hard time adjusting to MS? My HS runs mafia games that have. 72 hour Day Phases and 24 hour nights. Another site i play on have 48 hour days and 12 hour night phases.In post 137, drealmerz7 wrote:the hardest adjustment I have here is 2 day Nights - I usually like having 4-5 days to re-read the thread and digest things and reflect on it all
the game I modded had 5-7 day Nights simply because of the amount of NAs and flavor associated
scums gotta have time to use NC
do you just like the variety MS provides?
I wanted something as close as I could get to my HS pace wise but some larger games and bigger variety of player exposure - MS seemed appealing especially with the large theme games so I am testing the waters here-
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you are 1 slot 1 entity and therefore you get ONE READ from meIn post 150, Infinite Justice wrote:My vote on BnL is titus's vote. Believe it or not there are 2 players in this slot, and I didn't find a better place to put it, so I didn't see a reason to change it.
Proper response later.
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to me this equivocates to "I don't know why I'm voting who I'm voting for"
this is an unacceptable answer at this point in the game, especially when you're L-1 and you are voting for the person that the person who is pushing your wagon thinks you are buddies with - I mean, it's not hard to see the HUGE ISSUES here
vote explanation is utter bogus and you are contradicting yourself and that is SCUM SCUM SCUM
it grows stronger by the hourIn post 153, BNL wrote:Drealmerz7, how strong is your gut scumread on IJ and me?
reading the IJ response to my points now-
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I call bullshit because:In post 154, Infinite Justice wrote:
I kinda get what you're saying here, but me and most other players I've played with on this site see it very differently. A claim is sort of a last resort to determine whether or not someone is scum, because you want to give as little information to scum as possible. In my view, no one should claim until town is basically ready for a lynch.
people claim on this site like it's the trendy thing to do - all of the fucking time, when they're not at L-1 at all
in my view L-1 means town is ready for a lynch and the only thing now is for the person to claim so anyone on the wagon can decide to get off and anyone off can decide to get on (or hammer if no one gets off)
pretty sure that is the view here, and you're just stalling because you don't want the game to progress because you don't like how it's progressing
you criticize dunnstral for not playing the game, but, it is you who are stalling and not playing the game - he is just waiting for you to get on with it, as are we all I think at this point
1.) DONEIn post 154, Infinite Justice wrote: 1.) So I think you guys should question and observe me to determine my alignment rather than have me claim, and mitigate 2.) the risk of a quickhammer by not having me at L-1 so early as opposed to, again, having me 3.) claim.
2.) *looks at timestamps* - argument of fearing a QH no longer valid
3.) claim
WTF? so you're just NOT GOING TO CLAIM AT ALL THEN?In post 154, Infinite Justice wrote: Not only that, once again, it seems that 2 of the votes on me are not serious...
... ridiculous to me that we'd have a claim...claims for me should only happen when you'd have alynch in a vanilla setup. Otherwise, I'd be giving away information to scum when my lynch can definitely be avoided without it.
You're repeating yourself, do I need to repeat myself? I don't think so.In post 154, Infinite Justice wrote: I don't think I'm forcing the game into a stage it's not in, if anything you're the one who's doing that imo. The game seems to be in the early d1 stage, and you seem to be forcing it into the late d1 stage. If you disagree, ok but I think you might be a minority.
Done. vote stays, no question.In post 154, Infinite Justice wrote: Look, I'm a big believer in gut, but even the best of the best won't be able to make a very accurate gut prediction based on 7 pages. You're going to be wrong a decent amount of time, and you're wrong here. Keep questioning me and try to figure me out to supplement your gut.
I absolutely know the weight of importance of these things. If you don't want to claim, do something that makes people unvote you.In post 154, Infinite Justice wrote: I don't think you're giving enough weight to the importance of scum knowing someone's role, especially in a micro. That or you're not putting enough important on continuing to generate content when there's more content to be generated.
That said, I do think it's likely that you believe what you're saying.
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generate some content
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of course I amIn post 158, Infinite Justice wrote:Let's be completely honest here. Are you willing to listen to my side? If not, there's no point in having this discussion because I think you're town.
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but I can't listen if you're not saying anything that you haven't said already
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quit stalling is what it is - I already said I'm "all ears"
if you're not going to say anything I'm not going to change my view
say some shit, maybe I'll change my view
it's pretty simple
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waiting to hear what you have to say, ABOUT ANYTHING
if it's annoying being tunneled perhaps you should address issues instead of avoid them
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all I see is you being defensive and not actually addressing anything and then you twist my points, soscum
you have a vote cast
if you have a vote cast at this point
it should mean something
if you don't have a place where you want to vote, don't be voting
but, you are stuckon BNL because of the point I raised about it all which has persisted and blah blah blah
dropping this
play the game if you want
keep stalling the game and get hammered
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it wasn't fake - I understand the perception of the ridiculousness that it hasn't changedIn post 297, BNL wrote: I think it's ridiculous and fake to make a gut scumteamat the start and not change that at all over the course of the game. Well, *something* should have changed by this stage.
however, it still hasn't changed and I can't force it to on some conception that it is ridiculous that it hasn't, that just doesn't make sense - what makes sense is for me to remain open to my reads shifting and developing and all that, the thing is, they haven't, and that is just how it is *shrug*-
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multiple interactions between BNL and IJ - keep sounding like buddies talkingIn post 305, Infinite Justice wrote:
I definitely agree with you, but I'm not sure if I should townread you for sharing my thoughts or scumread you for parroting me :)In post 298, BNL wrote:Culted's playstyle here is useful to scum as scum but can also be a town way of playing. I need an opinion from him to sort him. The opinion can be any read.
Ok this is a stance, can you explain it?
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me tooIn post 285, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact he doesn't bother to ask about the tell worries me
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you don't know why?In post 290, Infinite Justice wrote:
The more I think about this post the more it bothers me, I don't know whyIn post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:IJ is probably town, this feels like genuine frustration.
but then you do?In post 290, Infinite Justice wrote: I feel like town would engage or something, gamma seems to be saying that just to be the first one to say it
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uhhh, what?In post 292, Dunnstral wrote:
Couldn't care less about tellsIn post 285, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact he doesn't bother to ask about the tell worries me-
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what page is this?In post 311, BNL wrote:I have issues with IJ onthis page.
IJ, is it scum motivated to be not voting instead of voting next strongest scumread?
what kind of question is that? it sounds like a scum question on how to not be scumread
"if I do it like this how does it look?"
scum don't have "next strongest scumreads" - they have fake scumreads and it is up to the individual player's own strategy and motivations to be not voting or to vote their next strongest (fake) scumread
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