Micro 672: Vanillish Mafia (Game Over!)

[KainTepes]

I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: Think Tank

are you SERIOUSLY pushing a policy lynch before I even post in this thread?? and in a MICRO?? Scum detected,,

[KainTepes]

whatever just policy lynch me and be done with it,, i dont feel like fighting with people who keep calling me STUPID,, i am tired of it........

[KainTepes]

or i can replace out so none of you will have to bother lynching me,, i'm upset and crying now that you are all being so horrible to me........ i havent even posted anything i did nothing to any of you and you were mean to me,, nobody loves me

[KainTepes]

i am 14.... it is in my Pro-File.......

[KainTepes]

wait, why do you sign off your message with Pine,, pine is another player on this site,, ?? i'm confused,

[KainTepes]

BUT i type like this because that is how my IDOL on town of salem types,, his name is KAIN TEPES and he is a very aggressive player,, he has a twitter too

[KainTepes]

no............... this cannot BE.......... TOWN OF SALEM is a very difficult game where i have to be AGGRESSIVE to win,, though it looks like MAFIA SCUMMY is more difficult to play.......... many people say things with big words that makes me CONFUSE but this way i can learn if people are more PATIENT WITH ME........,,

[KainTepes]

can you explain what confbias means?

and why would you TUNNEL PINE...... just because he is SCUM is one game does not mean he is SCUM in this game,, and also he is merged with Thingbig, the tank guy it looks like....

[KainTepes]

but you also shouldnt ignore him because it is not good to ignore anyone,,

[KainTepes]

i have not bold words other than my vote, should i bold WORDS??

[KainTepes]

so CONFBAIS same meaning as TUNNEL in the case of the finding mafia game......?

[KainTepes]

my fingers bounce and vibrate a lot when i type like shaking,, my little finger hits the shift key a lot but my teacher say it is okay as it helps to FOCUS ATTENTION onto the IMPORTANT words in my post,,,,,

[KainTepes]

i learn a new word today: confbias...... will tell it to my TEACHER WHEN I GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!!!

UNVOTE: THINK, TANK

[KainTepes]

Honey, Town of Salem is the white girl trailer trash of Mafia. Let me tell you the pecking order.

Mith
The Mods
Mafiascum
Epicmafia
Off-site knock offs

The Dirt
The worms inside the dirt

Ice JJ Fish's singing voice
Town of Salem


Please, let's refrain from talking about it again

why is the worms below the dirt ranked BELOW the Dirt,, i am CURIOUS..... worms have LIFE and dirt do not........ living things have more value than non living things.....?? unless you think worms are icky.........

KainTEPES,,

[KainTepes]

VOTE: Space Ace

why i vote him is because after Think Big and Pine in the Think Tank explain the vote they voted back,, very light read but it is there

[KainTepes]

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
3. Think Tank (hydra of Pine and ThinkBig)
4. TierShift
5. Aelin
6. TheRealGin-N-Tonic
7. Spade_Ace
8. Hiraki

this is playerlist,,,

Aelin and Gin Tonic are confirmed TOWN,, then THINKTANK i think probably now is town because i can SEE WHY HE GOT MAD AT ME,, but the ANGRINESS is a town angriness at me,, and i think from past expericne SCUM will not attack me first,, they want me to survive a while for some reason.... also,, i am a TOWN,,

that means all players left to be possible scum is

- Karnos
- Tier Shift
- Spade
- Hiraki

FOUR people.......... THREE mafia,,

i think SPADE is almost definitely one of them

[KainTepes]

karnos has not posted so i want to hear fromo him,, TierShift and Hiraki seems to be making MOSTLY JOKE POSTS....

[KainTepes]

i dont like to think of MYSELF as an easy mislynch.......... but it makes sense that they are staying out to watch the TVT that does not involve them

[KainTepes]

yes,, that is why i thought THINK TANK was suspicious at first;; because it is easy to pull off a POLICY LYNCH and then take no blame for my town flip because HEY ITS A POLICY LYNCH, I DIDNT SAY HE WAS SCUM!! that was what i thought,, but then after i kind of see what Think Tank was doing so i believe he is town now

Space has to be scum therefore,,

[KainTepes]

i think the vote still needs to be on SPADE..... i dont mind KARNOS but spades posts are not comforting to me,, it is obvious that he is just shade casting in a scattering manner of washing water,, he's more scummy than the other three

thinkbig you are not making sense,, your top scum read is karnos and you still vote me for no reason

[KainTepes]

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
3. Think Tank (hydra of Pine and ThinkBig)
4. TierShift
5. Aelin
6. TheRealGin-N-Tonic
7. Spade_Ace

8. Hiraki

Removing ourself (a strange word I just invented to represent the 2=1 aspect of hydra'ing) and the ICs, I get this list:

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
4. TierShift
7. Spade_Ace

.....?? what happened to HIRAKI?? he is neither you or an IC......

[KainTepes]

i actually like spade's post #96,, that PLUS the "accidental" leaving out of HIRAKI from the vote list has made me reconsider my townread on thinktank,, and I will

VOTE: Hiraki

[KainTepes]

i see the next sentence that THINK TANK said he will remove HIRAKI cos of "townvibes" but doesnt explain what the townvibes are...... not really indicative,, but if you are tryiing to break your reads down in a logical manner this does not help explain anything...... even I explained why i townread ThinkTank in my post where i voted SPADE earlier,,

[KainTepes]

Spade must be scum,, i believe THINKTANK,, VOTE: Spade....

[KainTepes]

spade is DEFINITELY scum,, also this is LYLO, meaning that if there is wagon on town scum would have quickhammered very easily,, so i believe SPADE's wagon built SO FAST is because scum is bussing SCUM PARTNERS............ so i suggest we still lynch SPADE today,, but dont give any extra town cred to thinktank or KARNOS for voting spade,,

there is only one town member other than me who isnt IC right now and i think there is VERY LITTLE POSSIBILITY it is spade,,

[KainTepes]

Spade must be scum,, i believe THINKTANK,, VOTE: Spade....

so i believe SPADE's wagon built SO FAST is because scum is bussing SCUM PARTNERS............ so i suggest we still lynch SPADE today,, but dont give any extra town cred to thinktank or KARNOS for voting spade,,

Is ThinkTank a scumread or a townread for you Kain? I can understand how you get both opinions from both sides but it fits much better if you think he's a scumread.

good question.... like i said before,, he was a town LEANING PERSON,, but mostly because i could see his PUSH on me coming from a TOWN ANGLE,, if he is scum then he must have DONE THAT WITH A PLAN,, KNOWING THAT I WILL TOWNREAD HIM FOR IT,, which seems less likely.........

anyway since i am TOWN,, and nobody has hammered SPADE yet it means spade is scum...... and at least one of THINKTANK and KARNOS is also scum,,

[KainTepes]

and once SPADE DIES i think it is LIKELY that he will venge kill REAL GIN AND TONIC becuase he is hte INNOCENT CHILD who produced MOST CONTENT,, so i want to hear more thoughts from GIN AND TONIC before spade is hammer,,

and AELIN NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE MORE.................... it is POINTLESS to have CONFIRMED TOWN just WASHING WATER AND SLIDING BY............!!!

[KainTepes]

should i UNVOTE then??

[KainTepes]

should i UNVOTE then??

someone answer this question PLEASE,, i am pretty sure SPADE is scum so I dont really want to unvote but i will if the ICs insist i should,, after all if scum doesnt bus then we need all 4 town to vote SPADE to lynch him

[KainTepes]

OK

gin said to remove or it will be SCUMCLAIM so i got confused,, i am not scum

[KainTepes]

between think tank and hiraki it is difficult to say....... my TOWNREAD on THINK was because of his attack on me,, but it is also possible now that I THINK OF THE STRATEGIC REASONS that it can be PREPLANNED to make it look that way and DIVERT ATTENTION TO OTHER PEOPLE,, such as ME,, .........

[KainTepes]

Ordering a policy lynch on you, regardless of alignment puts all heat on you. So yes, if scum, it was smart to do so

this makes SENSE............ THEN I SUSPECT THINKTANK,, i guess he thought he was able to trick me.....!! and the third person will have to be someone who HELPED thinktank to pressurize me!!!

everyone is being very CONTRIBUTORY now,, nobody is really washing water...............!! kind of hard to TELL NOW,, but I know there is only ONE TOWN other than me and the ICs,, and RIGHT NOW it seems that HIRAKI has become more TOWNLIER,, now that he posted more thoughts.......

and i am very HONEST,, i always type what i think RIGHTR AWAY!!!!!!!!!! but people think i am CONFUSING anyway,,

[KainTepes]

I AM TOWN..................

[KainTepes]

i find it VERY HARD to find who is the other town because everyone is playing VERY GOOD and very aggressively like they are really trying to catch scum and it is confusing me,, but I now think that THINK is scum,, and possibly HIRAKI as well.....

[KainTepes]

their playstyle is very similar which is to try to push for my MISLYNCH and win the game,, and they KILLED AELIN because she is the only one who believes i am town,,

[KainTepes]

REAL GIN AND TONIC you have to see the TRUTH here,, i am the real TOWN,, and i think KRANOS is also town,, because HIRAKI scum slipped,, but the person now i BELIEVE must be scum is THINK TANK.... let me explain WHY,,

I TOWNREAD him at first because he wanted to lynch me for a reason that soudned TOWNY,, but that was clearly a GAMBIT,, with THREE SCUM and two INNOCENT CHILDREN they clearly needed a GAMBIT so they probably planned that beforehand,,

[KainTepes]

HOWEVER........... if KRANOS doesnt get quickhammered, then i'm wrong and he's scum and I WILL LYNCH HIM

[KainTepes]

HIRAKI AND THINK are pushing for me really hard and AT LEAST one of them is scum,, i think it is definitely possible that they are SCUMBUDDIES...... i dont think they will not dare to link themselves together now because they will have to lynch me,, or kranos if kranos is the other real town....

HIRAKI AND THINK i think are FORMING A FAKE TOWN BLOC so they can escape pressure,, either that or THINK is just buddying up to a town Hiraki,, anyway i believe THINK IS SCUM

HIRAKI and KRANOS is DEFINITELY not TVT..... ONE OF THEM IS SCUM

[KainTepes]

How about we entertain the thought that both Hiraki and Karnos are town. I'd like to see that

NO, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS SCUM

[KainTepes]

aelin DID SAY IT,, let me find her post

[KainTepes]

I DID NOT REMEMBER THIS WRONG,, stop trying to make me sound like i am in bad light,, i know you are scum shade casting on me and hoping GIN AND TONIC believes you over me,, i am very angry at you even though i know you are just playing to your WIN CONDITION,,

[KainTepes]

REAL GIN AND TONIC just WAIT FOR ME TO FIND THE POST,, i'm not using ATE i am just STATING A FACT

[KainTepes]

VC 1.Lynch!

TierShift

(5): Karnos 113, Hiraki 116, Think Tank 117, TheRealGin-N-Tonic 119, Spade_Ace

Lynch!!!

Spade_Ace

(1): TierShift 122

Hiraki

(1): KainTepes 98

Karnos

(1): Aelin 111

Not Voting

(0): Nobody!

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes: TierShift has been lynched! Stand by for a flip!

But.
3 scum were on Tier Shift.
Gin is town.
So Hiraki Spade one of TT or Karnos is scum.
Doubt is Karnos so folks our scum team is: Hiraki Spade and TT.

"3 scm were on TIER SHIFT"

she was sure I am town

[KainTepes]

Gin and tonic you need to realize that THINK is trying to manipulate your vision by CASTING me as scum trying to use ATE and blatantly lying,, by even pretending he read AELIN's ISO and make you vote me,,

[KainTepes]

ie he is basically DISCREDITING everything i say when what i say is true,, and saying i am just a child whining,, but I am TOWN and i have FACTS here,, it is up to you whether you are going to believe in me though

[KainTepes]

i am not OMNIPRESENT,, i didn't know SPADE was scum and only realized it when he was not QUICK HAMMERED........

[KainTepes]

anyway if you think HIRAKI and KRANOS are town and i am scum with THINK TANK then do you think THINK is purposely buddying up with HIRAKI to bus me,, that sounds quite absurd,, if you choose to believe that then nothing i can say can convince you any way..... but THINK is scum and we must lynch him

[KainTepes]

VC 1.Lynch!

TierShift

(5): Karnos 113, Hiraki 116, Think Tank 117, TheRealGin-N-Tonic 119, Spade_Ace

Lynch!!!

Spade_Ace

(1): TierShift 122

Hiraki

(1): KainTepes 98

Karnos

(1): Aelin 111

Not Voting

(0): Nobody!

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Mod Notes: TierShift has been lynched! Stand by for a flip!

But.
3 scum were on Tier Shift.
Gin is town.
So Hiraki Spade one of TT or Karnos is scum.
Doubt is Karnos so folks our scum team is: Hiraki Spade and TT.

"3 scm were on TIER SHIFT"

she was sure I am town

this is the quote,,

see, think tank is STILL trying to discredit me by pretending i didn't quote it when i just did

[KainTepes]

the fact that i was not QUICKHAMMERED makes me believe HIRAKI is scum,,

[KainTepes]

it would have been easy for scum to co ordinate a 2 person quick hammer i think

[KainTepes]

I am the town....... ok i know you wont believe me no matter how many times you say,, but i showed you how much THINK was lying through his teeth

[KainTepes]

I still suspect HIRAKI but if you completely do not find him suspicious i will just vote THINK now,,

[KainTepes]

With that - I'm willing to get rid of precondition 2 for hammering. Not very reasonable for the entire scumteam to be on this wagon, especially since I do think Kain is town.

I agree and would like the ICs to say something before hammering though.

I'm not sure WTF he is talking about here. This just seems like nonsense. Drunk post maybe?

That's the kicker. This case is fabricated. I'm 100% sure the scumteam is Karnos and Kain.

I need to go - but I sincerely hope this will change your mind. If I'm conf!town to you, then you shouldn't see this as scummy but just a last ditch effort for me not to lose this game. If you do, then I guess my gambit failed. Kain will be online soon and will QL with the other scum unless we get this done now.

VOTE: Kain

i do not understand why HIRAKI changed his read on me either,, do you really believe his explanation?

[KainTepes]

see, i got quicklynched,,

this is a horrible game,, i am upset that it started off with people bullying me..... maybe for THINK it is just scum strategy but the real gin and tonic who is clearly town also joined in, i don't want to play with you all ever again

[KainTepes]

of course i'm suspicious of everyone...... everyone other than me is almost completely all scum except one other person

nobody EVER BELIEVES ME,, and now you are probably going to blame me again for playing badly when i am trying my best

[KainTepes]

i am so sad

[KainTepes]

real gin and tonic if you DARE say this is MY fault instead of your own,,

i hope we never play again in the same game.

[KainTepes]

it was SO OBVIOUS think was setting me up to be a mislynch and you fell for it, and now you say it is my fault i didn't let myself be policy lynched day 1?

[KainTepes]

FUCK YOU

[KainTepes]

GO TO HELL AND I HATE YOU

[KainTepes]

I HOPE YOUR GIRLFRIEND DUMPS YOU AND YOU DIE ALONE

[KainTepes]

you were just supposed to LYNCH THINK TANK but NOoooo you are so HOLY AND MATURE you shoudl be the second coming of JESUS CHRIST

[KainTepes]

i bet you think you are SO SMART but you're just an IDIOT who cannot get a JOB,,

[KainTepes]

It's your fault

its YOUR FAULT you were stupid and you cannot see common sense,,

[KainTepes]

Considering I'm going through shit with my girlfriend right now and Im already apathetic as it is; I could not care less about you.

Let this game go before I report your behaviour for harassment please.

maybe your girlfriend dumped you because you are as stupid as you were in this game.

You are the real harasser, you called me a kid and you spent the whole game DEMEANING me,, go to hell.......

[KainTepes]

It really is, Kain. Your style is abrasive, hard to follow, and illogical. It makes you seem scummy.

Look, Im not trying to be an asshole, but you need to back up, calm down, take some damn advice, and play some Newbie games. The consistent factor in this is you. If you're getting the same feedback everywhere, maybe don't just continue doing what you've been doing without change.

PEdit: Don't sweat it Gin. You were on the right track. This was a respectable loss.

the problem is not me. I've NEVER been lynched before in any game as town. like sure, maybe people didnt believe my scum reads but they knew i was town. in this game, GIN lynched me because he was dumb.

[KainTepes]

i think i was logical enough. i pointed out that THINK was trying to use a gambit to focus attention on me and GIN just fell for it,, and STILL He doesnt understand it was his fault for falling for it and ACCEPTING his actions as being wrong,, and just saying it's MY fault

[KainTepes]

AELIN was the only smart town in this game

[KainTepes]

thanks aristo for the words of encouragement,, it makes me feel better

[KainTepes]

GIN, i am sorry for saying horrible things,, i read back adn realized i was being unnecessarily mean, but please understand that i was very hurt by the fact that on the very beginning of the game, THINK pushed a policy lynch on me, you and aelin supported it, and all of you were very patronizing when you did. i was called a child and demeaned without any attempts at letting me better myself as a player. it was hurtful

and at the end, you just went and said ITS YOUR FAULT when i havent even done anything bad.... it was HARD for me to take reads but this is the game i was very focused on and it was hurtful that you would demean my efforts like that

i was frustrated because you clearly KNEW that thinktank was scum and yet you didnt vote him,, without considering why both THINK and your TOWNREAD (hiraki) would be pushing for my lynch at the same time,, when you think kranos is town, when you knew think was conf!scum and you didnt vote him, instead you voted me when you knew think was still online and ready for a quicklynch. i know its not the time to apportion fault like this but you have to realize you did wrong too, and to say it's MY fault is demeaning and it's something i was very uncomfortable with this whole game, because i am very sensitive about it

[KainTepes]

Kain, please realize I used 27 sheets of my notebook to figure out this game. Your slot had no consistency and I couldn't get an actual read; thus scum was able to hide in the obscurity.

I was right about Think pushing a PL being scum motivated
I was right about Kronos and his parallel voting with Spade
I was right about you and Hiraki.

What fucked it up?
The inconsistency of who you scum read. I couldn't find who you actually thought was scum or town, you changed it every time you posted so the slot created much more confusion than good.

P-Edit: Also Pine was conf!scum when he said he was mentoring ThingBig, as soon as he whiteknighted(granted it was his own slot) him playing the noob card, instant flashback to him defending me in the Hunger Games.


Fair warning to the future Pine, I know now to trust my gut when I see you as scum

see, if you have posted this from the very beginning i would have accepted it.

instead, you acted like i was a child who couldnt understand anything, you were demeaning,, and you ignored all the posts i made.... i clearly pointed that THINK was trying to manipulate you by making it sound like my words were AtE rather than actual facts (Aelin DID say i was town, and a simple look at her ISO would have shown that), and you ignored my post. Why? it's because you think i am childish and annoying..... and that was hurtful and frankly very rude

The first reaction you made when we lost was that "damn we should have policy lynched Kain D1" and "it's your fault". that was AWFUL and of course i am angry

[KainTepes]

i can do that,, i am interested......

[KainTepes]

we can be THINK TEPES.............

[KainTepes]

GIN,, if you read my post please respond.........

[KainTepes]

hiraki,, i know it can be easy to blame me like GIN did but it is still never right to peg someone as 100% scum. i know i wasnt the best player but i was trying my hardest and i believe my posts were logical,,

the fact that 2 town were on my lynch made me very upset

[KainTepes]

I'm scum buddy

LOL

Kain tepes is always right...... i was the only one who suspected HIRAKI+THINK in the end

GIN looks like you cannot beat KAIN TEPES

[KainTepes]

Can't believe town bought your scum theory that scum would purposely get lynched to use a vengekill, worst strategy ever.

only GIN, cos he's not the brightest bulb in the box

but its ok, i wont say any more because he has girlfriend issues

I struck that part of the post as it was not an attack, but was unnecessary and could still be reported. Please keep in mind your etiquette here as I would hate to see this go any further.

- Ari

[KainTepes]

next time when you play a game with KAIN TEPES never ignore his arguments........... like honestly man i always get scum, people just never believe me

[KainTepes]

Gin, how come you voted kain if you thought think was scum? Did you really believe they could be scum together?

Exactly what i was saying.

[KainTepes]

if GIN werent an IC i would have policy lynched him off the bat

[KainTepes]

shrugs........ well, probably cause of my DYSLEXIA leading to weird posting styles but i cant change that can I??

i am being patient..... maybe eventually when people see that i always catch scum they will start listening to me

[KainTepes]

Of course you can change your posting style. There are about 5 other things I could readily name for why people wouldn't listen to you, but you don't seem very interested in improving yourself. You would rather blame others for not listening to you, am I right?

not true,, give me those reasons please because i do want to improve

but when people like GIN just dismiss me for being stupid without explaining anything else it pisses me off

[KainTepes]

so you think scum would just use excessive dots and commas for the heck of it....?

sometimes my hands press on the wrong key for a LONG time,, like SHIFT or FULL STOP,, it is seizure habit....... it can be fixable when i go back on my posts, but then it will take 5 hours to make just ONE POST....... and i need to type quickly or you were ALL GOING TO LYNCH ME,, which you did anyway

a word of advice to you though Gin, and I try to type this sentence as well as I can,,

but you should think what is my scum motivation for posting something rather than just calling it scummy because you find me annoying.

[KainTepes]

like for Hiraki. What is his town motivation for putting a vote on me and then leaving? (he just voted me and said something like he was going to go to sleep now)

Town will never do that,, town would be afraid of scum jumping to quickhammer at all times and be vigilant in case the person voted for responds and so he can take back his vote

[KainTepes]

There was no way Town Hiraki will be "100% sure" i am scum when i havent been there to respond to any of his arguments,, and do note that i havent even posted in Day 3

[KainTepes]

thats ok, Gin. I should improve on my play too...... i guess i misread your posts and the impression i got was that you were being patronizing, which angered me,,

but if you are still up to be FRIENDS i will want to be, too

[KainTepes]

wow that was kind of you........ thanks aristo,, though i only picked up on HIRAKI and THINK in the end, so it is not exactly the best read

I think people need to ISO each other more though... HIRAKI's ISO screamed scum and if i had time to write a long ISO analysis before Gin voted me i would have talked about that

[KainTepes]

i think i do better in my scum games........... which is sad because i like playing as town and CHASING THE SCUMZ...............!!!!

[KainTepes]

no offense, i tried to be nice but GIN is definitely the LVP of this game,, hammering me as the IC when I didnt even have the time to speak,, and calling my views "WTF" when i havent even posted in Day 3 instead of actually waiting for me to POST,, there was still a lot of time left on the deadline

GIN you still have a lot to learn,, i know you are an ADULT but that doesnt automatically make you smart