Micro 675: Heroes of the Storm uPick - Game Over!

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bad post

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I oppose mass flavor claim

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VOTE: Dunn

Always lost games in which I've played with him, he is to be blamed.

funny, I always seem to win

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I don't think I've ever seen "us" be used as "Us, the mafia" before

Beyond that, It's pretty scummy to make a big deal out of it. I know from experience this kind of accusation tends to be bought by that one guy who then tunnels on it for the whole game so this goes well beyond rvs

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I think seiko is scummy there too. That's not rvs, that's early shade on something that wasn't scummy. A false slip

Syryana's hop on doesn't inspire confidence, either

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What exactly about "us" lends to the inference of "us, the scumteam i am on" vs "us, the playerlist"

In fact there's evidence to the latter. He says us three times in that post and the context is clear

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We're a three-person secret hydra, for what it's worth.

Our heads are:
Bemmit
Bubbles
Raven

All unsigned posts so far have been Bemmit.

~ Raven

Wut

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Feel free to start an early wagon that isn't based off a disgusting misrep. You should be wagoning one of sekio and Syryana. Why aren't you? What harm does having an early wagon do? Why does it have to be on Charloux, in your opinion?

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reaction tests.

So when you get called out, it's a reaction test?

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Is me not voting the only reason you're scumreading me right now?


want to hear from seiko hydra first


Btw did oxford not sign up as a hydra? Just surprise 3 headed hydra

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I'm not against it btw but I can see that some people would be

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Alright: due to my role, the first vote I place today will do something extra. And so I'm being rather conservative with it. Consider my vote on seiko hydra

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What in the actual FUCK people?

STOP FUCKING CLAIMING.

You don't seem fazed at all by my claim. Shouldn't it change the basis of your case on me?

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Though I'm not sure why oxford and charloux felt the need to claim

And I don't believe charloux claim I think?

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Wait at the cost of your own life

HMMMMMM

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You can't likely

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Bit early to be on about that I think

I'm fine with him if he was pushing that voting thing as it's actually something I was doing and he caught on right away

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Don't think you should townread them for suggesting mass claim discussion and then not following up

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I don't have any town read on Dunn; I don't have any issues with the bulk of his push on us (save potentially the post bork pointed out), but it's nowhere near unfakeable.

Really? Even after that last game?

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Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

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Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

Why? You'd advocate a PL 2 days into d1?

Never said anything about pl

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Wait, you guys were talking about a june 2015 game this whole time?

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TOB is "pretty town" in general I'd say.

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I don't even understand what's being articulated here: it feels like people are talking about stuff that honestly doesn't matter. We're only a few days in and I'm already willing to lynch any lurker

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intent to hammer

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Uhhhh, following that logic what stops aj from being scum with seiko town?

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Dunnstral, can I ask about your reads?

Yes, I will let you to ask about my reads

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I think you guys are likely to be town, bork is towny, and had good feelings about syryana

seiko pretty scummy, aj slightly scummy

charloux idk

obvious alt is flaking

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shadow pretty scummy too

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Kind of awkward

And I can't tell what posts are from pieguy and what from notscience, but it seems like they're all pieguy? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

I've got a theory that the more lopsided a hydra's posting habits, the more likely they are to be scum

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shadow pretty scummy too

Just throwing shit around?

I was asked for my reads.

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Uh, just a feeling? I know you like to act like you should be obvious town but you haven't done anything to indicate it

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With 9 players eligible to vote, it’s 5 to lynch!

That's some really precise wording btw

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Aj that meta you brought up - did you look at that to figure I was town early in this game? I think that's what you're saying

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Did obvious alt pm the mod in order to avoid posting in thread?

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Wait

he posted in scum pt lolololol

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really though I think it's worth lynching obvious alt from that

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More like I'm not really into this because all I can say is kill lurkers as I can't get good reads

I don't think we should lynch aj and I'll get into that in a few hours on pc

I'm sorry to disappoint but my power isn't anything to make me obvtown, it requires planning though as it takes effect on day 2, though I've sorted my reads out enough now

VOTE: Seiko x Naomi

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VOTE: Shadowstep
I think shadow is scum here and I'll get into that on pc too

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Next, I'll say that I got my 3rd choice of hero, so there should be a johanna and a sylvanas in the game (I don't see how revealing this could be bad)

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Give me like 2.5 hours and I'll walk you through shadow scum and aj town

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some weird shit is going on.

QFT

Why?

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found himself in a comfortable early game global tier-2 town read

It was suggested earlier that I could be a gladiator and I never said anything to it (I'm not though)
Do you think this is potentially interesting for these reads on me?

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Because the timing on this counterwagon is weird AF.

In what way?

What scenarios are you theorizing here

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found himself in a comfortable early game global tier-2 town read

It was suggested earlier that I could be a gladiator and I never said anything to it (I'm not though)
Do you think this is potentially interesting for these reads on me?

Eh forget the gladiate part, just the fact that I had an undisclosed ability to use

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I'm kind of implying that perhaps scum would want to buddy up to me while I had an active power/potential gladiate

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What I'd like to discuss though, is that I was the first player who signed up for the game and you'd think that I'd get my first choice character. But I didn't which was weird. Did the same thing happen to anyone else?

Not relevant to alignment, but I got my 3rd choice character and I replaced in for someone, I suspect the "draft order" was the order the picks were sent in

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Alright, I'm going to go through shadow's Iso and point things out that I had a problem with

Will catchup at some point.

Meanwhile, hello Pie!
I hope we can solve this game together.

For later ^

What in the actual FUCK people?

STOP FUCKING CLAIMING.

Too much vote switching from this slot and this seems like fake town concern.

"Stop claiming"
"Stop setup spec"
"Xyz is pro scum so stop doing it."

VOTE: Syryana

Hah! That's nothing! We got an even better role ^_^ It makes it so we become ascetics the night after anyone targets us with a night action!!! So don't try to do anything to us or you'll get your time wasted >:D

- Bubbles

I can resurrect a dead person once at the cost of my own life.

What in the actual FUCK people?

STOP FUCKING CLAIMING.

After reading the posts exactly above this, I'm even more convinced Syryana whatever their stupid name is, is scum.
Those claims are quite clearly not serious.

This doesn't look like something you think through and come up with as town - it looks to me like nitpicking in order to place a vote

Salutations.

I would like to discuss the pros/cons of mass flavor claiming. Please note that I am not actually proposing it as yet, I'd just like to discuss it.

The nature of this game intrinsically suggests that character is not linked to alignment. However, claiming flavor right from the start severely limits scum's ability to fakeclaim later on. You can't claim Kerrigan now, then pretend to be a Doctor later. It doesn't make sense. The downside of this, of course, is the reverse; someone claiming Lt. Morales would likely be perceived by scum to be a Doctor, despite the fact that Morales also has powers that could serve to provide Commute, Roleblock, or even Invent.

My point here is that, while claiming flavor this early is usually a bad idea, it deserves discussion this time around.

mafia must have been given safe fake claims by the mod. It can't be that easy.

This post was weird to say... OA wasn't saying to claim roles, just characters, and "fake claims" aren't needed because characters were chosen before alignment

basically what shadow is responding to... isn't actually what OA was saying. I don't think anybody else called this out.

Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

Why? You'd advocate a PL 2 days into d1?

This is the pathetic attempt to make something look worse than it actually is.

When Dunn replies to him he just avoids answering it which is even worse.

Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

Why? You'd advocate a PL 2 days into d1?

Never said anything about pl

Didn't like this.

What happens is that I live in a totally different time zone and then I wake up to 5-6 pages of new posts and I kind of procrastinate xD.
"I'll catch up later" it's a vicious cycle.

While this may be true, I saw shadow as town in dance mafia. He didn't bother to make excuses like this if I remember correctly, and he was under heavy pressure at the start.

Uh, just a feeling? I know you like to act like you should be obvious town but you haven't done anything to indicate it

Uh, just a feeling? I know you like to act like you should be obvious town but you haven't done anything to indicate it

I don't like act like anything. I know I'm town.

Doesn't really answer to what I was getting at, just basically says that since "he's town" he shouldn't consider my point of view

In post 109, Shadow_step wrote:
Will catchup at some point.

Meanwhile, hello Pie!
I hope we can solve this game together.

This smells stinky. Not sure why. Too earnest?

How about you ask me why I said it before jumping to conclusions?
Explain how it smells stinky apart from "gut"

It was because of the events of the last game we played together(Pie).

And yet you haven't talked to or about pie at all up to this point, despite seeming eager to "solve the game" with them.

You sound like you don't like him on a personal level, but you never said anything about your read on him?

I don't like him because I lose every game which he is in. I don't have much of a read on him. I'd lynch him day 1 if push comes to shove.

Sorry for your loss In advance
Really though, shadow knows I'm not getting lynched at this point. He doesn't really have a good reason to be suspecting me either, just something vague about me not responding to something

I've played with Shadow a few times now, I'm feeling like he's scum in this one.

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For aj I don't have stuff to point out specifically, though I liked his use of meta on me and I liked his reads: his read on shadow seems to be that he hasn't played with him enough and he seems good on a surface level which is understandable, I wouldn't say his vote on obvious alt is misplaced because aside from the lurky lurk thing they were fluffing to start

If I did have something to point out (which I don't) it would be:

I'm not going to take a stance on the wagon unless I explicitly feel you're town or scum.

Is there anybody you DO feel is explicitly town or scum? Or are even leaning in that direction? (also fyi Seiko is Notty and Pie, not penguin)

UNVOTE:

No scum reads, I only have town reads right now.

Dunn/Bork are my 'explicit' town reads. IDK S_S well enough to have a read, but I'm comfortable with what he's said thus far.

If you still find me suspicious, why unvote me?

I unvoted Seiko.

that Aj tripped up here and thinks he's being unvoted. It sounds dumb, but him not keeping track of the votes on him all that well while talking to someone makes me think he's likely to be town


I don't think he's a good lynch option for today, in any case. I'm seeing people vote for him because he's "off" or "funny" without really pointing to anything if I remember correctly, and it's a really weak wagon

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this all looks a bit "let me fit this evidence to the conclusion I already came up with"

Not really though? I started noting things and I'm explaining it all at once, all I did before was say I would be explaining stuff

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Wait a minute!! Dunnstral, ya said Aj was town cos he wasn't keeping track of the votes on him! That's a bad reason! Mafia can be absent minded too, ya know?

- Bubbles

There was more to it than that, and that wasn't the only reason...

More importantly, why

is

he mafia then? Because I'm not seeing any arguments for that yet somehow it's normal for him to reach l-1

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I think you guys are likely to be town, bork is towny, and had good feelings about syryana

seiko pretty scummy, aj slightly scummy

charloux idk

obvious alt is flaking

well i bring it up because here is your only mention of aj before you decided so vehemently that he was the wrong lynch

don't get me wrong, you're living to D2 as I see you're doing a thing; I just don't get it

Right but AJ wasn't very active to start, if you compared my mentions of most other players it will seem similar I suspect

As of now everybodies at least posted enough for me to get a good feel

I'm not feeling well right now. I'll respond to SXN as soon as I can. What I can say right now is that we didn't claim at the beginning of the day because I didn't know if it was best to claim on day 1 or day 2. I'll get to the rest in a little while.

~ Raven

Uh, nobody asked you to claim?

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I also think this wagon is town driven/motivated. This basically leaves me entertaining the idea that AJ may be town.

What did this mean? Which wagon is town driven/motivated and why does that make AJ town?

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The rest of this just says that you think AJ is town because gut, basically.

What's your reason for scumreading him?

There's a lot of momentum but I don't think anybody offered up more than surface level dislike

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Also I have no idea about the flavor so I assumed like in most games with flavor there are some characters who are evil and are more likely to be scum, like team rocket in a Pokemon game. Which is why I said what I said about the mass claiming thing. If mafia have such characters who are considered to be evil then they might have fake claims, no?

I think this is scum shadow_step slipping because he does have fake claims for whatever reason... as town there's no reason to think like this; because

Shadow sent in his picks himself

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What he's saying here doesn't make sense from a town perspective because it assumes scum have fake claims, when he should know it's not alignment indicative (but him having one is pushing it)

Also, the way you talked to pieguy early like you wanted to work with them and then never again is what irked me.

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What I said wasn't an excuse, I didn't say my activity will be lower because xyz reason, I explained why my activity was lower than usual.

Right, and in the last dance game you never "explained" your inactivity even when you were under pressure, and you eventually got lynched as town with a town partner

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Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

Why? You'd advocate a PL 2 days into d1?

This is the pathetic attempt to make something look worse than it actually is.

When Dunn replies to him he just avoids answering it which is even worse.

Wouldn't mind lynching shadow-step at the moment

Why? You'd advocate a PL 2 days into d1?

Never said anything about pl

I think AJ is just manufacturing reasons to SR Ob Alt, he's on l-2 and thinks that he needs to make a counter wagon and Ob Alt looks the best bet right now.

Dunn is scum who knows AJ is town hence the defense.

This is the typical mafia move of trying to get someone who isn't being widely scum read lynched to save the scummy player for a future ML. They also get town cred this way because lol why is he defending town and is a good way to buddy up to AJ.

His whole reason to vote me is "I don't like this" and then accuses me of "nitpicking"
Why the hell do I need to talk to Pie?
What I said wasn't an excuse, I didn't say my activity will be lower because xyz reason, I explained why my activity was lower than usual.

Pretty quick 180 between the top two and bottom two, I don't think it's warranted by anything either.

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I'm rereading.

I don't really want to lynch Dunn today; scrutinize him Day 2.

I don't have some super amazing power that's going to keep me from being lynched; but you also shouldn't have a reason to keep saying this.

I claimed because people found me not voting suspicious when it really shouldn't have been

rereading AJ's body of work in ISO is giving me very cold feet on that lynch

Who are you considering?

Also I have no idea about the flavor so I assumed like in most games with flavor there are some characters who are evil and are more likely to be scum, like team rocket in a Pokemon game. Which is why I said what I said about the mass claiming thing. If mafia have such characters who are considered to be evil then they might have fake claims, no?

I think this is scum shadow_step slipping because he does have fake claims for whatever reason... as town there's no reason to think like this; because

Shadow sent in his picks himself

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meh. he's starting with a very obviously misguided mindset (OP states flavor is independent of alignment, standard U-pick shit, he obviously is assuming otherwise), which is proof of nothing other than he's not really being very analytical. If scum don't have fakeclaims, and I have no reason to see why they would (as you yourself admit too) then this isn't a scumslip

What about the rest of his play?

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Also I would bet the farm on Seiko being town at this point if that's relevant to you

I'm uneasy about them

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What about the rest of his play?

I don't mind his syr push or AJ pushes

It's possible he saw a tactical opening to push you in my 348

still feeling that out

It's simpler than that, he voted me because I voted him

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I don't mind his syr push or AJ pushes

What about the way he said aj was town out of nowhere?

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how do you feel about OA

I don't want to lynch them, if shadow is scum I wouldn't think they were bussing there. If multiball is possible that changes things of course. Wouldn't want to lynch them today

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I wonder if Seiko hydra even noticed my vote on them

unrelated question: Dunn, what is your read on TOB?

Town

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(and Dunn's posts are anything but good).

huh?

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I wonder if Seiko hydra even noticed my vote on them

unrelated question: Dunn, what is your read on TOB?

Town

why?

I don't think it matters

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GUT

And their latest reads are good.

Well, the two I care about (three?)

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S_S is town, I think; his point on Dunn re: scum WK'ing a town player in order to leave them for a later mislynch makes a lot of sense given it is pretty much exactly what Dunn did in our last game with him (successfully).

You're bringing up reasoning even shadow isn't bringing up to defend himself, to defend him

I don't think it makes sense to think I'm always wking town and scum from last game

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I don't think it matters

answer the question.

So why did you care about this?

Why is my opinion on TOB important in the context of today and the lynches we need to start up on?

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I've thought they were town. I probably mentioned it near the beginning. I don't see where you got that from. And again, why it matters

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I've thought they were town. I probably mentioned it near the beginning. I don't see where you got that from. And again, why it matters

I don't give the slightest fuck about whether you think "it matters" or not. I'm asking for a very specific reason that I don't want to out until after you've answered the question.

can you explain in more detail why you've had a town read on them? I've seen that you declared it earlier, now that I looked again, but I don't see any reason given for it anywhere.

Wow, feisty.

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They just look like town. I don't have any further explanation.

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I also dare tob to try it.

Oh, so you're just throwing shade then and trying to make us look bad

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dunn/tob if you're town ffs please fucking listen to me about seiko

Can you listen to me about shadow

As for seiko I'm not even voting there... today. I've only said they were suspicious

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was trying to show syr's voting patterns, they're pretty much an echo of mine for a while

That's the kind of thing people say to me when I'm scum








Just saying

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they're pretty much an echo of mine for a while

Stuff like this. I don't echo anybodies thoughts as town, but when I'm scum...! I'm pretty good at scumhunting town I guess


Didn't mean to go off about myself

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I still would love for TOB to swing.

Maybe.

Is there a playground for our innocent child to swing on, or what could you guys be alluding to here?

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I'm not this good at scum

Huh? but you haven't done anything

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I can't parse what you're trying to say there

say

about

you when you're scum?

I'll just quote for you.

Stuff like:

continue to see you [Dunn] mindmelding with me as I catch up.

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I really hate that 348 happened and all the sudden dunn starts tryharding again

Ugh, can you not? My change in activity wasn't related to that

Aj got to l-1 in that post, which gave me plenty of incentive to speak up against the lynch

Plus, the rest of the game as a whole was less active before then

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Also, you seem oblivious to Shadow, handwaving his play with "omgus doesn't mean scum"

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Pedit: Beeeeeetlejuice

? I've been posting this whole time

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me? i'm not, he's just not really active.

So we won't lynch shadow because he's inactive?

If anything that means we should be more likely to lynch him

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TOB OMGUS'd per notsci, do you think they're scum?

Here's what I mean with the handwaving: I bring out a list of reasons of why shadow is scum, it gets dismissed as "omgus isn't scummy" when in reality not only did he not have a reason to vote me there, he also scummed it up

I'm not voting shadow for omgus.

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not what i'm saying; i'm not bringing it up constantly because what's there is there and the body of work is small.

Alright, well we've got 3 days left.

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I didn't like that action, but it's not the only thing I didn't like and voting back someone who votes you isn't a singular tell that can be seen as scummy or not. My problem is that's all you focused on for some reason

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I don't think it's fair to expect me to know who his partner would be. It seems like you're trying to poe on day 1 and it's real easy to put me in that scum list

at the very least, I wouldn't think OA was bussing, and I don't think it would be Aj. Along that, you're pretty darn town and so is TOB
Seiko was kind of what I had in mind. If we assume they're town... maybe Syryana?

Or Charloux, but that's not my first thoughts for scum

i realize i'm probably being a huge pain in the ass

well you just stopped my post like 3 times

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the town signals I'm seeing in S_S are his treatment of Dunn and his reaction to his wagon

Seriously?

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460 is actually a pretty succinct explanation of what is wrong with all of the votes on him.

460 is a bunch of misreps.

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i don't know the extent of his hate towards him so i can't judge it as AI

lol, it's fake.

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dammit pie i think you're right.

About what?

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Btw if you are not certain who to lynch, i suggest you lynch me. I'm useless right now, so the only thing i can do is help you with my ability that activates when i get lynched.

Dude shadow is at l-2

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whats with the self-pity

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Also, you claimed for no reason

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Perfect reads

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Prob the only thing I'd maybe change is syr/charloux spots

Yes, I would put SxN lower than Syr

And the order near the top doesn't matter much

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In your mind, where is OA in that?

Right below you - didn't have much of a read on OA but they voted shadow

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Dunn - voted Seiko which will do good things tomorrow

Actually, I've made it clear that you shouldn't really be considerate of my role when deciding to lynch me; with that being said, you still shouldn't lynch me just because shadow said so



Are we really getting off of shadow because he claimed? What if it's a fakeclaim? What if it was a provided fakeclaim?

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"Pretty much lets you prove" or "lets you prove"

I don't want to lynch persivul today anyway, I don't see us needing to dig into his role day 1

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does anyone else's role not match their ability in HOTS well? Mine is fine.

Mine seems to fit pretty well.

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So... should we lynch you?

I'm pretty sure you're town with that claim but that ability is pretty strong. Is it a public reveal?

Ok so lynching charloux == bad. All it does is guarantee a NK on said person if it's town.

Which isn't a bad thing, if we were going to lynch that person anyway.

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absolutely we're not lynching you, yeah.

why ABSOLUTELY?

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VOTE: dunn

can you not

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Seriously, why are we all peeling off of shadow for claiming?

I want a good reason why his claim makes him town. Bork and Syryana

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from his scum game there i dont really think he looks like this game here or any of the town games i read, tbh.

So you meta'd me and think I don't look like my scum game, but you also don't think I look like my town game (though you don't seem to really have a scumread on me here anyway)


Why does that all warrant a vote on me

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and if we do?

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the reason I caught Dunn in the dance game was because

omgus, pretty much. But that's not a bad thing

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There's no reason to lynch persivul if he has the ability to make himself obvious town.

NO point speculating what will happen either and trying to preemptively lynch.

We can lynch shadow, or we can mass claim.

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There's no reason to lynch persivul if he has the ability to make himself obvious town.

The thing I am wary about is all he is saying is that he'll be able to prove he's a role that tends to go to town (much) more than scum

that's not exactly foolproof

Why do we have to lynch persivul today, anyway? Who cares if it's not foolproof, he wasn't even set to be lynched when he said it

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'set to be lynched'?

He wasn't under pressure

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I voted dunn because I hated how he handled the Charloux situation, like he was testing to see if anyone was gonna bite on lynching Char, a blatantly antitown thing to do, especially if the progression goes

But it's not blatantly anti-town, revealing a town forces scum to kill someone that we would have lynched anyway, or reveals scum. Or let's someone be an ic

Also, unless you think I'm scum with shadow I don't know why you think as scum I'd want to lynch someone who can clear someone rather than a random town


Still waiting for an answer as to why shadow's claim warranted unvotes: bork and syr

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I still think dunn's 351 and 352 are really awkwardly timed and filled with a level of certainty that he never even hinted at at any point in the game before then.

It was never hinted because I couldn't vote.

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I would also expect clever scum to try to start a counterwagon from town onto town; hell check the EoSD scum PT i'm pretty sure I talk about that there

from town onto town onto town onto town?

where's the scum?

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I'm going to be so devastated of Dunn is scum and doesn't get lynched.
I will move to persivul if Dunn lynch doesn't go through.

This is so bad

Almost as bad as "mainly because I think it has no agenda behind it and it doesn't attempt to posture"

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Guess it's safe to ignore bork from here on

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I'm going to be so devastated of Dunn is scum and doesn't get lynched.
I will move to persivul if Dunn lynch doesn't go through.

Do you think I'm scum with persivul?

[Dunnstral]

Am I missing something? Why is everyone jumping on me?


Persivul is scum. I think his ability clashes with mine, and far from making him "confirmed" makes me suspect him. I made who I voted hated, and he's got a double vote

Yesterday he said this:

Just vote Dunn with me. zzzz

I'm considering it. This is the first time he's appeared town to me - maybe that's his scum game? Plus, my D1 reads are usually wrong. But really I'd rather do SXN first, and I'm considering TOB. One head townie, one scummy, one absent.

Which is really really off because he just played a game where I was scum, and here were his thoughts on that: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8572098

[Dunnstral]

I would have said this yesterday but all of a sudden shadow who couldn't be lynched got 3 votes in ~20 minutes

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Persivul

[Dunnstral]

would heavily advise everyone to utterly ignore everything dunn says today

SO just like day 1 then

[Dunnstral]

oh HAHAHAHA looks like my time here is dunn

[Dunnstral]

I think that town's best interest knowing I'm scum is just to look for my partners instead, as you guys can lynch me any time you want, and it would be nice having a frame of reference

[Dunnstral]

uwah

[Dunnstral]

me

[Dunnstral]

Easy game I think

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Dunnstral]

The mod error was announcing me as MAFIA when I'm actually TOWN but I know nobody would believe me, well good luck guys

[Dunnstral]

*mashing f5*

[Dunnstral]

That was pretty troll

[Dunnstral]

So why did I get my 3rd choice btw? Just easier to fit to something?

[Dunnstral]

It's fine, my role was pretty neat

[Dunnstral]

Also we were going to bus dunn either way

Nobody told dunn

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, you really always do roll scum don't you?

yeah