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Because in the inevitable mass claim down the road, I can come back and point out exactly what was unclear about our role PM. If we get to mass claim and don't say what was unclear, lynch us. Simple as that.In post 66, Errantparabola wrote:
This was basically useless and i'm wondering why you shared it.In post 54, Froggaphant wrote:Also I was confused by our role pm so still waiting on the mod to clarify something.-
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This is such a bullshit technicality and a total reach.In post 58, drealmerz7 wrote:umm, he said "may be scum" not "got that you ARE" scum - guilty conscience much?
I wouldn't be surprised if this came from scum dreal just to have something to push. It's such lazy play to say "guilty conscience" just because I'm challenging someone on their read of me. It's pretty implied that when someone says "X may be scum" they have a reason to scumread me. I wanted to know what that reason was. Hence asking why they thinking i'm scum (the "may be" part is implied).
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Oh hey no he doesntIn post 66, Errantparabola wrote:oh hey see dreal gets it-
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Are you seriously asking this. Scum obviously. We are hoping we wi this as scum. Jesus fuck.
Why are you even asking this? Just to have something to say? Or is it essential for you to know why that was obviously Bella? It just looks like you are saying this to look busy without actually saying anything that's relevant to the game.
how is that obvious?In post 17, Froggaphant wrote:^bella, obvs.-
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I really don't think you have anything useful to ask at this point.In post 20, drealmerz7 wrote:you mean in scumchat or your hydra PT?
VOTE: Dreal-
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Oh hey thisIn post 31, Land of Xanth wrote:The questions in 18 are so fucking fake and in the end they don't actually lead anywhere like, at all.
Right now he's just looking like he's scumhunting but really he's not.-
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No, they want to know what an example of what a tone read would be. Because it looos like you just ask those questions to ask them and then bullshit around with it being to tone read reactions.In post 37, drealmerz7 wrote:There was no tone to read, so you trying to fabricate me giving an analysis on a tone-read that doesn't exist, is "leading" at best, scummy at worst.
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In post 38, drealmerz7 wrote:
actually that is the 1 thing in that post that has the most meaning I think, and I'd like a response from them when they get to itIn post 36, Land of Xanth wrote: Like asking how you were supposed to know a certain person was pilotting a hydra at that time is just pointless and leads nowhere.
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why does it lead nowhere? maybe it leads nowhere for you, but for me, it tells me what they were thinking/why they were thinking, and that helps me, especially when I have little familiarity with the players in that slot.
And how exactly does that help you sort our alignment in what was obviously RVS?In post 41, drealmerz7 wrote:no that's how it is, you make no sense
someone says something is obvious, I don't see at as obvious, so I want to know why they think it is obvious - it's pretty basic-
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This is such a terrible generalization of Ali's play.In post 40, drealmerz7 wrote:well you're a master shit-poster of non-content who often times to me seems to have trouble comprehending the gamestate, so I'm not surprised it's a little much for you a little fast, but it's how I roll - game is on, what's the dillydally? we don't need 50 pages of shit, in fact, 50 pages of shit makes the game HARDER for town (that' a pro-tip for you)
I just finished a hydra game with Ali where we voted all three scum on D1 and Ali was the initial one to point out exactly why the person we ended up lynching was scum.
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Wait. Didn't you just say shitposting was bad for town?In post 46, drealmerz7 wrote:and then he RIPPED OUT HIS FUCKING HEART-
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What caused you to say this?In post 66, Errantparabola wrote:dreal consider my read on you reset for now
You were just voting Dreal and told Wheme to vote him with you, then suddenly you flipped to voting Wheme and gave Dreal a pass. Why?-
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This is a terrible vote.
Xanth is painfully obviously town. I strongly townread things both heads have said.-
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Why were his posts bad and then why were his later posts not bad?In post 87, Errantparabola wrote:in response to why i gave dreal a pass i would like to direct you to the following post
In post 68, Errantparabola wrote:you made posts. i thought your posts were bad. i voted you
you made more posts. i thought those posts were not bad. i unvoted you
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Then i must be scummy too because I've pointed out a whole bunch of "anything else" that you've done.In post 62, drealmerz7 wrote:all I've done is made observations and asked questions, you "pushing" that I've done anything else is scummy-
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"Playing the game and making content" doesn't make you town.In post 63, drealmerz7 wrote:interesting how the thread has been dead, but then I post something, playing the game and making content, and you're hovering around apparently, ready to scum-read whatever I post-
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Wheme when you are here next, I would love for you to talk about this and then why you came in and commented about activity without then following up with any contribution to the game yourself.In post 86, Errantparabola wrote:this is likely only useful in an edge case, but can we presume with decent confidence that carnelian's slot is not responsible for the day halving?
i feel like this is an active and not a passive as it happened after thread unlock.
And I also feel like if it were an active then it's almost definitely an anti-town active.
idk if whemestar is careless enough to post concurrently with using an anti-town power (i would say probably not) but regardless i'm comfortable voting there.
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So again. What posts were bad and why.In post 68, Errantparabola wrote:you made posts. i thought your posts were bad. i voted you
you made more posts. i thought those posts were not bad. i unvoted you
there's not a whole lot i got.
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:/In post 99, Errantparabola wrote:the entrance was bad but only in a vacuum, and the later posts didn't reflect a trend imo
so i second guessed it.
Also lost 100 pagetop yay-
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i love this for in game reason but also because it's a beautiful sentence.
I quite like this vote. errant, why are you pushing whemey again?In post 143, WhemeStar wrote:Hi I'm back, will respond to things shortly!
For now though Im gonna VOTE: Vaxkiller - This is more of a gut read then anything. I just didn't really like his entrance to the game.
don't do this. it's noisy and pointless and dreal knows you are right anyway.In post 149, Land of Xanth wrote:Dreal, I'll play your silly game.
Provide one example where you showed disappointment in the mod's anti-scum actions and flipped town
yasss imperium <3In post 150, Imperium wrote:@TheRealImperium
Big day planned on READING THE GAME tomorrow. We will build a wall!
also, i can't get my head around errant. I agree with about half of what they say, and the other half is skeevy af. will talk to my other head.
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I agree, B!In post 154, Froggaphant wrote:also, i can't get my head around errant. I agree with about half of what they say, and the other half is skeevy af. will talk to my other head.
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Yeah, I agree with this: i think i'd've liked it to be discussed, but..I have one question: is it a utility that has to be used? (compulsive?) I've read, but I can't see this.In post 291, Land of Xanth wrote:1) Using his ability on d1 instead of hording it for a more strategic play such as LyLo seems pretty town.
2) Shortened d1 is actually pro-town because it reduces the time we have to bicker over completely unfounded bullshit.
3) If he does shorten the day phase after d1, it's pretty much a scum claim.
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...o.0 this is bad.In post 294, Vaxkiller wrote:BTW im missing something, did someone claim negative town utility of shortening day?
I really like posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented without being finickity, really town motivated.In post 345, Land of Xanth wrote:
Strange verbiage for speculation, because "willing to bet money on" tends to be used on what we consider "a sure thing" in Vegas, because nobody likes to lose their money here.In post 344, Hiraki wrote:Willing to bet money was more of a speculation rather than a firm read. There are also many posts on between 66 and 366 - I can go more into that read later if you'd like. I understand its not great at face value but that's also why it's not included heavily in my post and not a full scumread.
I would appreciate some clarity on your progression, so thank you in advance!
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@xanth, imperium, can you explain the kop post in like, three bullet points?
@dreal, has your read of the game state changed at all over the last day or so? thoughts on imperium and wheme?
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can you explain this. I'm catching upIn post 530, Errantparabola wrote:i would probably lynch imperium first given the information I have.-
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In post 215, WhemeStar wrote:
Your both town.In post 211, drealmerz7 wrote:
I play emotionally very often, especially when I am wagoned on D1 for utter BSIn post 208, WhemeStar wrote: You and drealmerz bickering and both of you getting real emotional. Ill avoid that thanks .
even so, you don't have to get "caught up in it" to comment on it objectively, at all - what is your read on what is going on with us?In post 216, drealmerz7 wrote:please give reasons why you think thatIn post 217, WhemeStar wrote:Your emotions make me think your town.
I might be wrong about dreal.In post 218, drealmerz7 wrote:I can flat out tell you that is not good enough because, as I said, I often play emotionally, it's not a thing you can just generalize as AI or not, you have to try and read me deeper on a case by case basis
This was kinda towny-
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Also think this is town.In post 230, Errantparabola wrote:
Alright here is my stanceIn post 229, Land of Xanth wrote:You're invested enough to support a counterwagon without actually taking a stance on the issue, so I don't think there has been any permanent damage.
Your push is objectively dumb
dreal's response is objectively dumb
the end
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where was thisIn post 534, Land of Xanth wrote:drealmerz' VT claim is a terrible fake claim.
you realize i'm still catching up right?-
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Is this nacho head, and is this meta from the other site?In post 232, Imperium wrote:@The Land of Xanth:
Your drealmer “slip” is disappointing FAKE NEWS: if he slipped and was pissed, he doesn’t take it out of PMs/PTs unless he’s resigning.-
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so you think scum!dreal tried to talk you out of a town read you had on him?In post 241, WhemeStar wrote:
Wat. The only reason I was town reading him was because of his emotions. If he says thats not a good reason to TR him then I don't TR him anymore lol.In post 233, Imperium wrote:@WhemeStar:
No conviction in your Drealmer read when he challenges you? Disappointing! Not surprised Dems lost - fold at the first sign of a fight!-
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Actually, yes. I do too.In post 252, Imperium wrote:@Land of Xanth
You have such great potential but now you think a signature will change the substance of an argument? So sad!-
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ok this is a point that needs to be taken more seriouslyIn post 264, Land of Xanth wrote:
I've played with Nacho like...Once...And BaeReed did most of the work on that hydra.In post 263, Imperium wrote:I have always had a good relationship with Alisae.
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it sounds like it's nacho who's been doing the posting, which would clarify the dreal thing. Also makes me side-eye nacho for saying a good relationship with ali then ali being like "what relationship, we barely played together"
there's scum in imperium/dreal/wheme. At least one, but not wheme/imperium together. Dreal imperium could be together.-
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Impeach this guy.In post 318, Imperium wrote:@EP
Your joke was funny! Definitely better than Saturday Night Live, cast is terrible, always a hit job. Really bad television!
SNL is the GOAT-
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I noticed that too.In post 321, Imperium wrote:Aeronaut saying that @Kop hadn't postedin threadis very weird, makes me think that he was more active in scumchat. Very sloppy!
Then noticed maybe it's just saying that he picked up his pm but hasn't posted in thread.
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Already scumreading Hiraki just for this.In post 336, Hiraki wrote:Willing to bet money that one of Errant or Land of Xanth is scum. Both votes are bad just one is scum though.
I don't like that you announced this.[/quote]In post 57, Froggaphant wrote:Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THISIn post 336, Hiraki wrote:I don't like Frog's explanation later on but I will drop that for now.-
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In post 336, Hiraki wrote:Willing to bet money that one of Errant or Land of Xanth is scum. Both votes are bad just one is scum though.
I don't like that you announced this.In post 57, Froggaphant wrote:Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later
I agree with 59 to an extent. Dreal is pushing on nothing in 58 but I don't think it's intended to be scummy - if that makes sense.
Dreal's vote on Land in 65 is NAI. Could be a move, could be arrogance, not very indicative of either.
66 is making me feel good about Errant being the town in the TS pair in the beginning.
I don't like Frog's explanation later on but I will drop that for now. I do have to admit that I don't know why Frog is trying so hard on Dreal. I would like to enjoy being healthy so I am fully admitting that I'm skipping 104's garbage to stay that way. Tunnelvision is on so hard.
132 has a point but I don't care too much for it. If anyone would be objective in looking at the game from either role, it'd be Dreal. Remember - this is the person pushing that a slip in 58 (I'm not getting into the argument that he didn't officially declare it a slip and therefore it cannot be one)
What's the probability that he's just lying to one-up you and not make himself look bad? I think that falls more into a dreal playstyle than anything.
I understand the conversation taking place in 203 over the "RVS" vote but I think it is really useless and pointless.
Really?In post 227, Errantparabola wrote:whemestar did good i think. you did okay whemestar i'll sheep you for now
TY.In post 299, WhemeStar wrote:Welcome to the game. Hiraki
Reads-list:
1. drealmerz7 - Leaning town
2. Imperium (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Tammy) - Town
3. Vaxkiller - Scum
4. WhemeStar - Leaning town
5. Froggaphant (hydra of Fro99er and Bellaphant) - Null (sorry, can't really get a read atm)
7. Land of Xanth (hydra of Alisae and -Grey-) - Null
8. Kop - Null
9. Errantparabola - Leaning scum
Post-re-read thoughts:
The wagon on Kop is really garbage. I don't think his vote was great but I would like him to actually read the game / admit that he won't read the game before voting him. Seems very opportunistic. Would much rather wagon on Vaxkiller where I'll be voting. I hate that Errant is on this wagon but I'll work with this.
Vote: Vaxkiller
You'll also note that I have a lack of quotes (I did and wanted to check why) near the end of the game - same with analysis. This is due to Imperium posting which if you read makes sense. Not sure what LandGrey is talking about last page.
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Spoiler: the award for scummiest post of the year goes to...
Begins with "EP and LoX has 1 scum between them" ... why not two? Why not try to figure out which one of the two is scum for the specific reason you called them out (I see you say EP might be town later, but it seems to try to fit your story of 1 scum, but then re-scum read them for saying they are sheeping. That's such a BS reason to scum read). Also LoX is fucking obvtown.
Then throws shade on our hydra but doesn't try to pressure it. Such BS
Then goes and votes vax despite the shade throw and the lack of follow up on our slot and while also scumreading one of LoX/EP
doesn't even have a real reason for scumreading vax
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I love you bellaIn post 354, Froggaphant wrote:I really like posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented without being finickity, really town motivated.
also sounds like a trump tweet if you just went like this
In post 354, Froggaphant wrote:Posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented not finickity. Really town motivated!-
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piss offIn post 554, Hiraki wrote:can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read-
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it's fucking twilight...i'll post as damn much as I want before this fucking thread gets locked.In post 556, Froggaphant wrote:
piss offIn post 554, Hiraki wrote:can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read-
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there's also no fucking town reason for hiraki to say this at meIn post 556, Froggaphant wrote:
piss offIn post 554, Hiraki wrote:can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read-
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