Micro 686 - The Nightman Cometh (Game Over)

[Froggaphant]

VOTE: errant

I'm hoping we win in less than 50 pages, guys...

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^bella, obvs.

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hi guys

frog head here. Bella's gonna hold down the fort this week because I have my busiest work week of the year (yay start of NASCAR season).

Also I was confused by our role pm so still waiting on the mod to clarify something.

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Please do elaborate. I'm curious how you got that I'm scum from one post saying I'm busy this week and I'll allow bella to do most of the heavy lifting.

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Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later

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Also I was confused by our role pm so still waiting on the mod to clarify something.

This was basically useless and i'm wondering why you shared it.

Because in the inevitable mass claim down the road, I can come back and point out exactly what was unclear about our role PM. If we get to mass claim and don't say what was unclear, lynch us. Simple as that.

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umm, he said "may be scum" not "got that you ARE" scum - guilty conscience much?

This is such a bullshit technicality and a total reach.

I wouldn't be surprised if this came from scum dreal just to have something to push. It's such lazy play to say "guilty conscience" just because I'm challenging someone on their read of me. It's pretty implied that when someone says "X may be scum" they have a reason to scumread me. I wanted to know what that reason was. Hence asking why they thinking i'm scum (the "may be" part is implied).

Total reach at best.

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EP what do you think of Dreal pushing us for the "may he scum" part and pushing you for the "may he scum" part

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oh hey see dreal gets it

Oh hey no he doesnt

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VOTE: errant

I'm hoping we win in less than 50 pages, guys...

is that "we" scum or town?

Are you seriously asking this. Scum obviously. We are hoping we wi this as scum. Jesus fuck.

^bella, obvs.

how is that obvious?

Why are you even asking this? Just to have something to say? Or is it essential for you to know why that was obviously Bella? It just looks like you are saying this to look busy without actually saying anything that's relevant to the game.

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you mean in scumchat or your hydra PT?

I really don't think you have anything useful to ask at this point.

VOTE: Dreal

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The questions in 18 are so fucking fake and in the end they don't actually lead anywhere like, at all.
Right now he's just looking like he's scumhunting but really he's not.

Oh hey this

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There was no tone to read, so you trying to fabricate me giving an analysis on a tone-read that doesn't exist, is "leading" at best, scummy at worst.

No, they want to know what an example of what a tone read would be. Because it looos like you just ask those questions to ask them and then bullshit around with it being to tone read reactions.

I'm pretty sure they are town just for this line of questioning alone.

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Like asking how you were supposed to know a certain person was pilotting a hydra at that time is just pointless and leads nowhere.
-Ali

actually that is the 1 thing in that post that has the most meaning I think, and I'd like a response from them when they get to it

why does it lead nowhere? maybe it leads nowhere for you, but for me, it tells me what they were thinking/why they were thinking, and that helps me, especially when I have little familiarity with the players in that slot.

This is a reach kiddo.
-Ali

no that's how it is, you make no sense

someone says something is obvious, I don't see at as obvious, so I want to know why they think it is obvious - it's pretty basic

And how exactly does that help you sort our alignment in what was obviously RVS?

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No idea why the first one quoted

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well you're a master shit-poster of non-content who often times to me seems to have trouble comprehending the gamestate, so I'm not surprised it's a little much for you a little fast, but it's how I roll - game is on, what's the dillydally? we don't need 50 pages of shit, in fact, 50 pages of shit makes the game HARDER for town (that' a pro-tip for you)

This is such a terrible generalization of Ali's play.

I just finished a hydra game with Ali where we voted all three scum on D1 and Ali was the initial one to point out exactly why the person we ended up lynching was scum.

We were on fucking point. Perfect town win.

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and then he RIPPED OUT HIS FUCKING HEART

Wait. Didn't you just say shitposting was bad for town?

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dreal consider my read on you reset for now

What caused you to say this?

You were just voting Dreal and told Wheme to vote him with you, then suddenly you flipped to voting Wheme and gave Dreal a pass. Why?

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yeaaaahhhhhh......

VOTE: xanth

This is a terrible vote.

Xanth is painfully obviously town. I strongly townread things both heads have said.

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in response to why i gave dreal a pass i would like to direct you to the following post

you made posts. i thought your posts were bad. i voted you
you made more posts. i thought those posts were not bad. i unvoted you
there's not a whole lot i got.

Why were his posts bad and then why were his later posts not bad?

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all I've done is made observations and asked questions, you "pushing" that I've done anything else is scummy

Then i must be scummy too because I've pointed out a whole bunch of "anything else" that you've done.

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interesting how the thread has been dead, but then I post something, playing the game and making content, and you're hovering around apparently, ready to scum-read whatever I post

"Playing the game and making content" doesn't make you town.

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this is likely only useful in an edge case, but can we presume with decent confidence that carnelian's slot is not responsible for the day halving?

i feel like this is an active and not a passive as it happened after thread unlock.
And I also feel like if it were an active then it's almost definitely an anti-town active.

idk if whemestar is careless enough to post concurrently with using an anti-town power (i would say probably not) but regardless i'm comfortable voting there.

again, not necessarily true and also only useful in a weird situation

Wheme when you are here next, I would love for you to talk about this and then why you came in and commented about activity without then following up with any contribution to the game yourself.

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Lol EP that was at Wheme

PEdit yep

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And why did you start second guessing that here?

What was it about his later posts that were better to you?

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And that also doesn't tell me what was bad about his posts in this game.

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you made posts. i thought your posts were bad. i voted you
you made more posts. i thought those posts were not bad. i unvoted you
there's not a whole lot i got.

So again. What posts were bad and why.

What posts were not bad and why.

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the entrance was bad but only in a vacuum, and the later posts didn't reflect a trend imo
so i second guessed it.

:/

Also lost 100 pagetop yay

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*post

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Nah. I'm good with wearing your toes for earrings.

-G

i love this for in game reason but also because it's a beautiful sentence.

Hi I'm back, will respond to things shortly!
For now though Im gonna VOTE: Vaxkiller - This is more of a gut read then anything. I just didn't really like his entrance to the game.

I quite like this vote. errant, why are you pushing whemey again?

Dreal, I'll play your silly game.

Provide one example where you showed disappointment in the mod's anti-scum actions and flipped town

don't do this. it's noisy and pointless and dreal knows you are right anyway.

@TheRealImperium
Big day planned on READING THE GAME tomorrow. We will build a wall!

yasss imperium <3

also, i can't get my head around errant. I agree with about half of what they say, and the other half is skeevy af. will talk to my other head.

-b

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also, i can't get my head around errant. I agree with about half of what they say, and the other half is skeevy af. will talk to my other head.

-b

I agree, B!

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Note I haven't read anything else except a couple of posts of dreal's responses to me.

I'm not going to answer for my other head dreal, don't be stupid.

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1) Using his ability on d1 instead of hording it for a more strategic play such as LyLo seems pretty town.
2) Shortened d1 is actually pro-town because it reduces the time we have to bicker over completely unfounded bullshit.
3) If he does shorten the day phase after d1, it's pretty much a scum claim.

-G

Yeah, I agree with this: i think i'd've liked it to be discussed, but..I have one question: is it a utility that has to be used? (compulsive?) I've read, but I can't see this.

BTW im missing something, did someone claim negative town utility of shortening day?

...o.0 this is bad.

Willing to bet money was more of a speculation rather than a firm read. There are also many posts on between 66 and 366 - I can go more into that read later if you'd like. I understand its not great at face value but that's also why it's not included heavily in my post and not a full scumread.

Strange verbiage for speculation, because "willing to bet money on" tends to be used on what we consider "a sure thing" in Vegas, because nobody likes to lose their money here.

I would appreciate some clarity on your progression, so thank you in advance!

-G

I really like posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented without being finickity, really town motivated.

@xanth, imperium, can you explain the kop post in like, three bullet points?

@dreal, has your read of the game state changed at all over the last day or so? thoughts on imperium and wheme?

UNVOTE:
-b

more over the w/e when my better half is free.

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Was basically sitewide vla this weekend. I'll catch up here tonight.

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^Frog

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i would probably lynch imperium first given the information I have.

can you explain this. I'm catching up

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You and drealmerz bickering and both of you getting real emotional. Ill avoid that thanks .

I play emotionally very often, especially when I am wagoned on D1 for utter BS

even so, you don't have to get "caught up in it" to comment on it objectively, at all - what is your read on what is going on with us?

Your both town.

please give reasons why you think that

Your emotions make me think your town.

I can flat out tell you that is not good enough because, as I said, I often play emotionally, it's not a thing you can just generalize as AI or not, you have to try and read me deeper on a case by case basis

I might be wrong about dreal.

This was kinda towny

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You're invested enough to support a counterwagon without actually taking a stance on the issue, so I don't think there has been any permanent damage.

Alright here is my stance

Your push is objectively dumb
dreal's response is objectively dumb

the end

Also think this is town.

The frustration is real.

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drealmerz' VT claim is a terrible fake claim.

where was this

you realize i'm still catching up right?

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like, I'm catching up from post 230, and we're on nearly 540 now. you're gonna have to give me time to understand the game instead of just throwing shit at me about a vt claim that I haven't seen yet

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@The Land of Xanth:
Your drealmer “slip” is disappointing FAKE NEWS: if he slipped and was pissed, he doesn’t take it out of PMs/PTs unless he’s resigning.

Is this nacho head, and is this meta from the other site?

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@WhemeStar:
No conviction in your Drealmer read when he challenges you? Disappointing! Not surprised Dems lost - fold at the first sign of a fight!

Wat. The only reason I was town reading him was because of his emotions. If he says thats not a good reason to TR him then I don't TR him anymore lol.

so you think scum!dreal tried to talk you out of a town read you had on him?

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@Land of Xanth
You have such great potential but now you think a signature will change the substance of an argument? So sad!

Actually, yes. I do too.

[Froggaphant]

I have always had a good relationship with Alisae.

I've played with Nacho like...Once...And BaeReed did most of the work on that hydra.
-Ali

ok this is a point that needs to be taken more seriously

it sounds like it's nacho who's been doing the posting, which would clarify the dreal thing. Also makes me side-eye nacho for saying a good relationship with ali then ali being like "what relationship, we barely played together"

there's scum in imperium/dreal/wheme. At least one, but not wheme/imperium together. Dreal imperium could be together.

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Ali can you get your other head to shut up while I'm thinking and catching up

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this is going to sound really fucking stupid...but I almost want to leave imperium in the game just for the tweets

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@EP
Your joke was funny! Definitely better than Saturday Night Live, cast is terrible, always a hit job. Really bad television!

Impeach this guy.

SNL is the GOAT

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Aeronaut saying that @Kop hadn't posted

in thread

is very weird, makes me think that he was more active in scumchat. Very sloppy!

I noticed that too.

Then noticed maybe it's just saying that he picked up his pm but hasn't posted in thread.

I also don't think Aero is that sloppy as a mod.

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Willing to bet money that one of Errant or Land of Xanth is scum. Both votes are bad just one is scum though.

Already scumreading Hiraki just for this.

Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later

I don't like that you announced this.[/quote]
And this doesn't help.

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fucked upt he quote, but yeah.

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I don't like Frog's explanation later on but I will drop that for now.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

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Willing to bet money that one of Errant or Land of Xanth is scum. Both votes are bad just one is scum though.

Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later

I don't like that you announced this.

I agree with 59 to an extent. Dreal is pushing on nothing in 58 but I don't think it's intended to be scummy - if that makes sense.

Dreal's vote on Land in 65 is NAI. Could be a move, could be arrogance, not very indicative of either.

66 is making me feel good about Errant being the town in the TS pair in the beginning.

I don't like Frog's explanation later on but I will drop that for now. I do have to admit that I don't know why Frog is trying so hard on Dreal. I would like to enjoy being healthy so I am fully admitting that I'm skipping 104's garbage to stay that way. Tunnelvision is on so hard.

132 has a point but I don't care too much for it. If anyone would be objective in looking at the game from either role, it'd be Dreal. Remember - this is the person pushing that a slip in 58 (I'm not getting into the argument that he didn't officially declare it a slip and therefore it cannot be one)

That's right, run away little boy.

-G

What's the probability that he's just lying to one-up you and not make himself look bad? I think that falls more into a dreal playstyle than anything.

I understand the conversation taking place in 203 over the "RVS" vote but I think it is really useless and pointless.

whemestar did good i think. you did okay whemestar i'll sheep you for now

Really?

Welcome to the game. Hiraki

TY.

Reads-list:

1. drealmerz7 - Leaning town
2. Imperium (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Tammy) - Town
3. Vaxkiller - Scum
4. WhemeStar - Leaning town
5. Froggaphant (hydra of Fro99er and Bellaphant) - Null (sorry, can't really get a read atm)
7. Land of Xanth (hydra of Alisae and -Grey-) - Null
8. Kop - Null
9. Errantparabola - Leaning scum

Post-re-read thoughts:

The wagon on Kop is really garbage. I don't think his vote was great but I would like him to actually read the game / admit that he won't read the game before voting him. Seems very opportunistic. Would much rather wagon on Vaxkiller where I'll be voting. I hate that Errant is on this wagon but I'll work with this.

Vote: Vaxkiller

You'll also note that I have a lack of quotes (I did and wanted to check why) near the end of the game - same with analysis. This is due to Imperium posting which if you read makes sense. Not sure what LandGrey is talking about last page.

this whole fucking post is the scummiest post that ever lived.

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Spoiler: the award for scummiest post of the year goes to...

Willing to bet money that one of Errant or Land of Xanth is scum. Both votes are bad just one is scum though.

Also the mod clarified the thing from our PM. It'll make sense later

I don't like that you announced this.

I agree with 59 to an extent. Dreal is pushing on nothing in 58 but I don't think it's intended to be scummy - if that makes sense.

Dreal's vote on Land in 65 is NAI. Could be a move, could be arrogance, not very indicative of either.

66 is making me feel good about Errant being the town in the TS pair in the beginning.

I don't like Frog's explanation later on but I will drop that for now. I do have to admit that I don't know why Frog is trying so hard on Dreal. I would like to enjoy being healthy so I am fully admitting that I'm skipping 104's garbage to stay that way. Tunnelvision is on so hard.

132 has a point but I don't care too much for it. If anyone would be objective in looking at the game from either role, it'd be Dreal. Remember - this is the person pushing that a slip in 58 (I'm not getting into the argument that he didn't officially declare it a slip and therefore it cannot be one)

That's right, run away little boy.

-G

What's the probability that he's just lying to one-up you and not make himself look bad? I think that falls more into a dreal playstyle than anything.

I understand the conversation taking place in 203 over the "RVS" vote but I think it is really useless and pointless.

whemestar did good i think. you did okay whemestar i'll sheep you for now

Really?

Welcome to the game. Hiraki

TY.

Reads-list:

1. drealmerz7 - Leaning town
2. Imperium (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Tammy) - Town
3. Vaxkiller - Scum
4. WhemeStar - Leaning town
5. Froggaphant (hydra of Fro99er and Bellaphant) - Null (sorry, can't really get a read atm)
7. Land of Xanth (hydra of Alisae and -Grey-) - Null
8. Kop - Null
9. Errantparabola - Leaning scum

Post-re-read thoughts:

The wagon on Kop is really garbage. I don't think his vote was great but I would like him to actually read the game / admit that he won't read the game before voting him. Seems very opportunistic. Would much rather wagon on Vaxkiller where I'll be voting. I hate that Errant is on this wagon but I'll work with this.

Vote: Vaxkiller

You'll also note that I have a lack of quotes (I did and wanted to check why) near the end of the game - same with analysis. This is due to Imperium posting which if you read makes sense. Not sure what LandGrey is talking about last page.

Begins with "EP and LoX has 1 scum between them" ... why not two? Why not try to figure out which one of the two is scum for the specific reason you called them out (I see you say EP might be town later, but it seems to try to fit your story of 1 scum, but then re-scum read them for saying they are sheeping. That's such a BS reason to scum read). Also LoX is fucking obvtown.

Then throws shade on our hydra but doesn't try to pressure it. Such BS

Then goes and votes vax despite the shade throw and the lack of follow up on our slot and while also scumreading one of LoX/EP

doesn't even have a real reason for scumreading vax

Someone vig this tonight if we have one.

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VOTE: hiraki even though we're in twilight

just for fucking emphasis

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I really like posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented without being finickity, really town motivated.

I love you bella

also sounds like a trump tweet if you just went like this

Posts like this from xanth, picking at exactly the right things, detail oriented not finickity. Really town motivated!

[Froggaphant]

can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read

piss off

[Froggaphant]

can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read

piss off

it's fucking twilight...i'll post as damn much as I want before this fucking thread gets locked.

[Froggaphant]

or I could sit here and read and risk the thread getting locked.

No. And don't tell me how to play.

[Froggaphant]

^@hiraki

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can you read on or are you only capable of posting your thoughts as you read

piss off

there's also no fucking town reason for hiraki to say this at me

[Froggaphant]

especially going into night phase where people will have two whole fucking days to read through this. So me putting it all in one post doesn't matter.

[Froggaphant]

what if it's because you posted the same post three times and just decided to spoiler it once

what if it's because I'm doing it for emphasis.

Why are you being a crybaby about this?

[Froggaphant]

Froggy, quick note...

We shall come to fisticuffs if you decide to push Wheme, my brother.

-G

Where did I push wheme?

[Froggaphant]

Yo this hiraki guy has set me off.

[Froggaphant]

i'm crying very hard over this says the person who is butthurt

yeah this is scum

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Froggy, quick note...

We shall come to fisticuffs if you decide to push Wheme, my brother.

-G

Where did I push wheme?

You mentioned them in a less than blindingly town light, and I am very protective.

-G

that doesn't mean I'm pushing them

i'm asking questions. trying to sort shit out.

chill out. Let me talk with Ali because you're frustrating me too. Ali and I vibe together.

[Froggaphant]

anyway, I'm going to finish my catch up and post EVEN MORE

[Froggaphant]

Willing to bet money was more of a speculation rather than a firm read. There are also many posts on between 66 and 366 - I can go more into that read later if you'd like. I understand its not great at face value but that's also why it's not included heavily in my post and not a full scumread.

Strange verbiage for speculation, because "willing to bet money on" tends to be used on what we consider "a sure thing" in Vegas, because nobody likes to lose their money here.

I would appreciate some clarity on your progression, so thank you in advance!

-G

WAIT YOU LIVE IN VEGAS TOO?

HOLY SHIT

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But then I started second guessing that.

Why are you assuming I'm just blindly making stuff up?

So, you find no game-relevance to 95 at all?

Errant putting so much time and work into their read on drealmerz just to walk away empty-handed tells you nothing?

Strange.

-G

this is goodposting

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Kop lurked the HELL outta of last scum game, for him it is AI. We were trying to prod him a little in the scum chat, and he would come on and provde some content then.

p sure this is town

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Yes, yes. We're probably neighbors in a loose sense.

Does that mean you'll stop assuming I'm being negative towards you, now?

-G

Yeah. I was actually going to go to M Casino because I need some entertainment/relaxation time after my busy week of working real hard. But now I'm staying home so I figured I'd catch up.

[Froggaphant]

No idea, but everyone and thier mother says pre-flip associations are terrible.

I love preflip associations

[Froggaphant]

still have to read the last few pages but a comment here now:

my role has a lot of flavor with it (2 paragraphs of blather), talking about how I hang around the bar and the gang because I think they're so cool, wanting to be a part of the gang /wishing they'd invite me on their adventures but I feel old and not cool so mostly I just sit around and drink beer but sometimes they make me feel like I am cool which is cool (cool!) of them~ I'm not really a fan of musicals but their's is super-cool and meaningful to me and I did come to the show to support them so I am a member of the audience but that is a passing comment in the bunches of other flavor I have about being an old guy who likes beer and hangs out at the bar

I believe Charlie and The Waitress are destined to be together

I'm attracted to both Dee and Mac

and more...

so the other 2 VT claims that have happened strike me as: definitely something off there

I can believe 1 generic "audience member" with little / no flavor VT exists, but 2? the 2nd one just seems contrived fake trying to get ahead of the claim-game AND the timing of the claim is iffy too

I've seen enough that I'm definitely comfortable to

VOTE: vaxkiller

I hate this post

[Froggaphant]

"haven't read but let me hammer"

also the vote is solely based off the VT claim, which is meh.

[Froggaphant]

my vote isn't based on the claim stuff

my vote is based on what I see as scummy posts from Vax, the claim stuff just enhances my comfort of an already scum-lean

ah ok

would still be nice if you read before a hammer

[Froggaphant]

Kill him with fire tomorrow. My PM has very little flavor, since Im dying, Kop, give me another piece of your PM so I confirm you as liekly town... or at least not lying about your PM.

this is kinda towny

[Froggaphant]

I think Hiraki is a better shot for scum than Dreal.

-G

this

not enamored with dreal, but I think hiraki is more likely scum

[Froggaphant]

dreal > Hiraki > Imperium

-G

yeah I think you're right on wheme and there's scum in here 100%

[Froggaphant]

alright catch up over

i'm glad i'm vibing with LoX

[Froggaphant]

but the catchup kind of makes me shudder a little bit.it just sort of seems like a staged transition to scumreads?

this is how I catch up in any game.

go look.

[Froggaphant]

kop is basically conftown unless aero gave scum a role PM of the VTs, right?

would seem weird to give it to scum and not just make it public though.

[Froggaphant]

^Frog

[Froggaphant]

[L-1] Kop - Land of Xanth, WhemeStar, Imperium, Vaxkiller

two confirmed town, Xanth is almost surely town

VOTE: Donald Trump

I mean

VOTE: imperium

[Froggaphant]

I don't hard townread you, but you're in my null to null-town range.

I scumread hiraki, dreal, and imperium...obv not all three can be scum

what else do you have beside the claim?

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Vote: drealmerz7

Froggaphant voting me instead of confirmed scum is VERY VERY BAD.

it's not. I could be wrong. But I've POE'd it to you, hiraki, EP, and dreal. And I think EP is least likely to be scum on my list of those

[Froggaphant]

Froggaphant voting me instead of confirmed scum is VERY VERY BAD.

yeh, i guess.
but like.
you arent like
uhhhh
being very town yknow
i mean
i really like you but still.

hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
hmmmm.
hm.

frog why do i need to have something other than the claim if you already scumread him
just pretend like your reasons are also my reasons and put him at L-1 for funsies.

or you could give me the reasons

I just don't want to lynch on a claim alone. That's burned me before.

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my vote isn't based on the claim stuff

my vote is based on what I see as scummy posts from Vax, the claim stuff just enhances my comfort of an already scum-lean

what was scummy you saw from vax?

I hate how you disappeared in twilight after this post trying to justify your quickhammer

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Since Imperium has started posting, drealmer quickhammered and confirmed himself as scum with a bad VT claim. #paragonofmafiahunters

FAKE POST! Very sloppy!

I'm dying though. This is hilarious

[Froggaphant]

never make assumptions, I think scum could definitely have scum variety member(s) of the audience(goon or PR even, perhaps a heckler of a sort?)

SAYS THE GUY WHO ASSUMED THERE COULDN'T BE TWO TOWN AUDIENCE MEMBERS

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VOTE: dreal

L-1

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so the other 2 VT claims that have happened strike me as: definitely something off there

I can believe 1 generic "audience member" with little / no flavor VT exists, but 2? the 2nd one just seems contrived fake trying to get ahead of the claim-game AND the timing of the claim is iffy too

I've seen enough that I'm definitely comfortable to

VOTE: vaxkiller

you used the assumption there can't be two town audience to hammer vax

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[quote="In post 627, drealmerz7"]I think scumteam is very likely:

Xanth + Hiraki

p-edit: frog - I actually had typed up a big post in twilight and as I went to post it, the thread got locked[/quotej

if you think there can't be two town audience then why aren't you putting Kop in your team?

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I think scumteam is very likely:

Xanth + Hiraki

p-edit: frog - I actually had typed up a big post in twilight and as I went to post it, the thread got locked

if you think there can't be two town audience then why aren't you putting Kop in your team?

EBWOP

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yo it's dreal+hiraki

GG, that's what I guessed D1 should have stuck to it but had a paranoia moment with imperium

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LoX plz come hammer because I love half your hydra and the other half lives in vegas so I love that too

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frog, you aren't fucking reading

Yes. Yes, I am.

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frog, you aren't fucking reading

Yes. Yes, I am.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE REST OF MY FUCKING POST

Yes. Yes, I did.

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I nearly caused myself a fucking aneurysm in drunken christmas because the singular VT claim in that game DID NOT MAKE SENSE AS VT AT ALL and I swore it was an SK, but I was wrong, Bender was VT. GAH~!

Not the same situation AT ALL.

Bender was the

only

VT. Your flavor is counterclaimed by two REAL vanilla townies.

G or A?

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Yo,

Dreal.

I don't care about your flavor

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Yo,

Dreal.

Why do you scumread LoX?

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@Imperium

I'm sad you didn't comment on my unpresidented tweet.

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The guy who says to never use meta on him asks us to use meta on him about how he'd fake claim.

Yes, this is me calling out him using self meta, which means I'm doing my own scum tell.

But only because he says never use meta on me and then says use meta on how he'd fake claim.

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lolololol

I love you G

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that was already the hammer

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VOTE: imperium
be back later, and this time when i say later i mean longer than a few seconds.
sorry for the empty doublepost

wait nvm

I thought that was a vote for dreal

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Ali talk to meeeee

don't leave

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The sky is falling tho!

just kidding

did you guys forget about your post restriction? Or was that not a post restriction?

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OH MAN YOU GOT POST 666 YOU ARE TEH SCUMZ

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it was a claim, they are dayman

wtf

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@Mod Bella head is VLA until saturday

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it was a claim, they are dayman

Why would you out this?

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UNVOTE:

If Dreal is scum and thought LoX was Dayman, why wouldn't they try to kill LoX last night?

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What is the sun?

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And why would they care about killing the sun over dayman?

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UNVOTE:

If Dreal is scum and thought LoX was Dayman, why wouldn't they try to kill LoX last night?

Whoever killed WhemeStar thought they were killing The Sun.

-G

And why would they care about killing the sun over dayman?

They = scum!dreal

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Then unvote Dreal

I'm with you

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PEdit looool yes

VOTE: Hiraki

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Drealmer is Rolecop giving result to living buddy. LYNCH NOW

ALI LETS GOOOO

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WHY DO QUOTES RANDOMLY SHOW UP

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Well he claimed beer man

I don't the NK that's a role cop

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Don't think

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Vote: Hiraki

This is not accepted.

Not in the form of a tweet

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What the fuck dreal

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How do you not even wait for a claim

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it was a claim, they are dayman

Why would you out this?

Dreal talk to me about this before the thread locks

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oops missed imperium's vote

no you didnt

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Especially because Imperium voted Hiraki twice

What a lying sack of shit

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Not as the beer guy, a VT, you don't

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dayman likely has BP

Why do you say that?

So you're scum hunting for people other than dayman. Which is why you didn't kill them N1?

Got it

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dayman likely has BP

Why do you say that?

So you're scum, and you're hunting for people other than dayman. Which is why you didn't kill them N1?

Got it

EBWOP for clarity

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Especially because Imperium voted Hiraki twice

What a lying sack of shit

c'mon you think I'd be that stupid?

stupid is me waking up from a nap and being in a daze while playing mafia

it's really okay though, hiraki is scum, watch

Because you quickhammered your buddy

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I'm quite sure LoX is not Dayman, FWIW

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Why is Hiraki scum?

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Dreal why is Hiraki scum.

Give me reasons

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I want to know why you scumread him to justify your hammer

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EP thoughts on Dreal?

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again, wasn't meant to hammer

really it was that one stinking horrid post in response to me

What exactly about that post was scummy?

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Also Dreal what do you think of me saying LoX isn't Dayman.

Nothing?

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@Mod can we have an accelerated night phase?

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maybe i'm underestimating the guy, but i really do kind of believe the whole vt thing + i think he's doing town things
hmmmmm.

What is he doing town?

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We're far too precious to be Dayman.

-G

I know

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Nonyoubdint

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No you dont

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ohshit I gotta go

Look how this guy backs out when the tough questions come out

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maybe i'm underestimating the guy, but i really do kind of believe the whole vt thing + i think he's doing town things
hmmmmm.

What is he doing town?

EP

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MMMM bread.

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Wait, Ali. You know Hiraki is town?

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Why is everyone being so anti-town

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DREAL WHAT DO YOU TIHNK OF ME TELLING YOU THAT LOX IS NOT DAYMAN

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OH HEY I THINK IT IS WICH IS WHY IM ASKING YOU

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I very clearly know things you don't, and I think it's protown. So fucking talk to me.

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OH YOU THINK I'M SCUM NOW FOR WANTING TO TALK ABOUT IT

OH OK

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well then have some scumpoints and a "I'm not going to talk about it because I think it's anti-town"

I did the pro-town bit that I thought was good to do, any more and it's not servicing town

No. You talk to me now.

I want to know why you think LoX is Dayman when I know they aren't.

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no I think it is anti-town and your persistance is scummy, it doesn't net you a OMG YOU'RE SCUM read from me, yet

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

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either scum read me or don't

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ALI

TALK TO ME ABOUT DREAL

HE'S BEING BAD

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I have my reasons I'd rather not elaborate on

believe me, it was pro-town to out that

dayman likely has BP

tell me how this is pro town

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ummm, no, don't tell me how to fucking play

lol, you're using my line against me

you win this battle

but seriously. Talk to me about why you think they are dayman. this is a protown thing to discuss

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I honestly don't know what you're expecting from him tbh.
-Ali

I want him to tell me why he thinks you're dayman

because I know you're not and now he's being stubborn like he thinks you are.

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I honestly don't know what you're expecting from him tbh.
-Ali

if it's any consolation, this is the towniest reaction that ever lived

even dreal should take note of that.

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dreal and his flexible range of outcomes of reads

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well we're going to disagree then and I think you're scum

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because ali would try to feed me something if he was scum

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sorry, but I know ali's town play

he's like one of my bff's on the site

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and you don't think they'd be able to manipulate you knowing that?

yes. i'm positive of that

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I love ali, but his scumgame isn't "i'm going to manipulate frog" in the most innocent of ways

it was a natural reaction to my question. It's pretty freaking obvious.

Ali will be the last person I consider scum in this game

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sorry, but I know ali's town play

he's like one of my bff's on the site

Dude.

We're scum.

I'm claiming scum.

We are not town.

Oh noez, we are going to be lynched tomorrow!

-G

yeah but your other head is town

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Dreal is trying to hold onto the last thread of existence of any sort of LoX scum read

it's kinda cute how wrong he is.

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Your seriously not very bright!

ATTACK THE PLAY NOT THE PLAYER GOD I'M REPORTING YOU

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well then you are just asking to be fucked by scum LoX then

no comment

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well then you are just asking to be fucked by scum LoX then

but for real tho. They are conftown

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dying

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Your seriously not very bright!

*you're

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OOPS I DID IT AGAIN

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@LandOfXanth

Bring back Ali. Make LoX Great Again!

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okay and what if the 2 of you are scumbuddies here just TRing each other and clearing each other?

THEN YOU WIN

#MAGA

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ISNT IT CLEAR THATS WHY WE BOTH SCUM READ YOU FROM THE START AND HAD THE SAME READS THE WHOLE GAME

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No. You are cursed to deal with me until you rescind that horribly undeserved conftown garbage.

-G

I recuse myself from any investigation into me and you

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OH SHIT I COP SLIPPED

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I should maybe stop talking now

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wtf is even going on anymore.
-Ali

I CANT SEE ANYTHING

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Why the fuck would anyone investigate us over drealmerz, Hiraki, or Imperium?

I hope you're lying because if that's a true claim... terrible.

-G

I PROMISE I TOWN READ YOU ALL YESTERDAY THEN COPPED YOU AND THATS HOW I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DAYMAN, BABY!

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SHIT I SHOULD BE QUIET

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MAYBE DREALMERZ WAS SMART TO SAY NOT TALK AND ITS PROTOWN

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scumtastic!

OOOH GOT ME