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Post #1 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:48 am
Postby callforjudgement »
Rules
By and large, this game uses Callforjudgement's Standard Rules. There shouldn't be any huge surprises in there if you're familiar with how games normally work on this site. If you aren't familiar with typical rulesets (or if you've never read the sitewide rules), go read it.
Here's a quick reminder of the most frequently broken rules:
A1. Players are expected to be active within the game.
A2. Do not discuss Mafia games outside their game threads until they have finished.
A3. Do not discuss the spelling, timestamps, etc. of any non-public communication.
A4. Stay civil to the other players.
Choices and Modifications
Factions
:7 Mafia against 2 Town, no third parties, no Vanilla Townies.
In a change to my normal ruleset, the Mafia win condition is "You win if half or more of the living players are Mafia".
Phase sequence
:Day Start
Deadlines
:
Day deadlines are
random
and
secret
; see "Setup-specific Rules" below.
Days will end early if there have been no vote changes for 48 hours, or if all players agree.
Night deadlines are 72 hours long.
Prod timers
:
For regular slots: 72+24; 48+24; 48+0.
Hydras have tighter activity requirements: 48+24; 36+24; 36+0.
Players who come back to the thread before I find a replacement may continue after the third prod, but not after the fourth.
Voting method
:
Special
; see "Setup-specific Rules" below.
Daytalk
:Enabled for all private topics
Action limits
:Each player is limited to, at most, 1 personal action plus 1 factional action per night.
Setup-specific Rules
This is a game where
Every Vote Counts
; lynches don't just care about the largest "wagon" (set of votes on a given player), but take every vote into account. The way it works is this: at the end of each day, a
randomly chosen
player will be lynched, but the probability of a player being lynched will be proportional to the number of votes on that player. So for example, if there are four votes on player A, one vote on player B, and no other votes, player A will have an 80% chance of being lynched, and player B will have a 20% chance of being lynched.
Day deadlines will also be random (otherwise, you could ensure that a vote wouldn't count via planning to retract it before the day ended, which would be fairly contrary to the spirit of this game). There will be a 1% chance a Day deadline falls during its first 24 hours; a 2% chance it falls during the second 24-hour period (given that it didn't fall during the first 24 hours); a 3% chance it falls during the third 24-hour period, if it didn't fall earlier; and so on. Note that this means that Days will end within their first week, on average, approximately a quarter of the time, and will only reach their third week around one third of the time.
As an exception to my normal rules, there will be no "hammer votes" or other method of ending a day early by majority vote (because votes "past a majority" are potentially useful in this game). Rather, a day will end early if nobody changes their vote for 48 hours. It can also be ended early if all players agree, via posting a bolded comment like
End the day
in the thread; pending requests to end the day will be invalidated if a player changes their vote. (And as usual in my rulesets, Nights can be also ended early if every player PMs the mod requesting this.)
Sample role PM
This is a
Closed
setup; the exact distribution of power roles will not be confirmed by the moderator until the end of the game. However, it's guaranteed that
there are no Vanilla Townies
in this game. Nonetheless, this is what a Vanilla Townie role PM might look like, if there were:
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Post #129 (isolation #9) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:52 am
Postby callforjudgement »
The day ended after #118 due to 48 hours with no vote changes. Sorry for not being online.
The nature of the game is that every vote counts, but I can't reasonably count twilight votes towards the day that ended. I'll apply them to the start of tomorrow's vote count instead.
The lynch will be determined via dice tag in the next post.
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Post #130 (isolation #10) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:58 am
Postby callforjudgement »
Lynch probabilities:
BTD6_maker
: 4 out of 7
JasonWazza
: 2 out of 7
Aristophanes
: 1 out of 7
I'm going to roll a d7. BTD6_maker will be lynched on an odd number (1, 3, 5, or 7). JasonWazza will be lynched on a 2 or a 6. Aristophanes will be lynched on a 4.
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Post #132 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:01 pm
Postby callforjudgement »
Charloux
died last night. He was a Town Secret Triplevoter (which has two additional votes that can be controlled via contacting the mod, and that appear under pseudonyms on the vote count).
TTTT's twilight vote for Charloux has been merged into the "not voting" section because voting for a dead player is functionally identical to not voting.
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Post #209 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:43 pm
Postby callforjudgement »
The day ended due to no vote changes for 48 hours. (Sorry for missing this; I accidentally took my own vote count as starting the timer, rather than the vote in the post before. It's been 48 hours since both, anyway.)
The lynch will be determined via dice tag in the next post.
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Post #212 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:50 pm
Postby callforjudgement »
Update: Just noticed I'm going to be asleep at the night deadline, and may be busy tomorrow, so I won't be able to start day 3 immediately when night ends. I'll try to get actions processed no more than 24 hours after night ends, though. Make sure you get your actions in by the deadline!
Additional update: I'm processing night actions now. Day 3 will start soon!
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Post #248 (isolation #32) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:18 pm
Postby callforjudgement »
randomidget
was lynched. He was a
Town Night 1 Jailkeeper
.
With 2 Mafia and 2 town alive, the Mafia have achieved their win condition!
Think they got lucky? Actually…
JasonWazza
was endgamed. He was a
Town Even-Night Traffic Analyst
(determines whether a player can communicate with a living player via PT, and somehow managed to paraphrase this role into a better description than the one in the role PM).
BTD6_maker
was endgamed. They were a
1-shot Bulletproof Townie
.
Nahdia
survived and won! They were a
Mafia Neighbourizer
.
Not_Mafia
survived and won! They were a
Mafia Life Tracker
(like a Tracker, but dead people don't show on the results, and "no result" and "result of no" look the same).
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Post #250 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:36 pm
Postby callforjudgement »
In general, I'd say that the scum did much better than the town here. They got a bit lucky with killing some of town's most powerful roles (TTTT called the scumteam, got died for it, and unfortunately couldn't be protected due to being the Doctor; Charloux was intended to have a confirmable role that's highly likely town in this setup), but more importantly, they had enough skill to avoid suspicion pretty much all game. (Towards the end of the game, Not_Mafia pretty much admitted being scum. So why not vote for him, rather than who you thought his buddy was?) Meanwhile, town didn't really do a whole lot of scumhunting at all, meaning that they didn't have much chance to force the scum out of hiding.
It's worth mentioning that there's a hidden mechanic that the scum knew about, but the town didn't (because it would have confirmed way too many people as town for the setup to be balanced if it were public); if scum "got lucky" with the lynch without being able to persuade at least one townie to vote along with them, they lost their nightkill for the night. This made relying on luck with the kill as scum somewhat risky (although it ultimately didn't matter, both because they avoided even the chance of triggering it most days, and because town didn't manage a successful protection). In general, if town had played more actively, forcing players to be more differentiated, aiming the protections (of which there were quite a few) would have been easier.
The scum roles weren't really designed to be all that useful for scum (although Nahdia played theirs very well!), but rather to prevent them being caught out by setup speculation / massclaim (several town roles in this setup, like the Triplevoter, were necessary for structural reasons, and scum needed a fairly convincing way to dodge a massclaim). That said, one of the scum managed to survive to endgame entirely unclaimed, and with no votes on him, which is fairly crazy in a role madness setup.
By the way, I was worried that with the general lack of activity, Day 3 would end due to deadline (it pretty much had a Blitz deadline; I rolled a pretty short deadline), but the end-day consensus happening first came as a surprise. Good thing I happened to check the thread!
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Post #258 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:58 am
Postby callforjudgement »
In post 252, JasonWazza wrote:To be fair, almost none of the town members that were alive were putting in any effort.
Also CFJ, while you can say "you should have lynched NM" i don't really agree because i see no reason for a neighborizer in this setup to be scum, seems like a poor balancing decision in my opinion.
Neighbourizer isn't a role that's automatically seen as town, or shouldn't be. Also, NM wasn't a neighbourizer (you're thinking of Nahdia). NM didn't claim
at all
.
Actually, after the game started, I realised I'd screwed up by adding a scum neighbourizer because it makes scum too easy to catch by setup speculation (i.e. the scum neighbouriser was actually excessively townsided, rather than excessively scumsided). In the context of this setup, all the town roles (except possibly the Diarist, who was mostly there to confirm the Day 4 Dayvig as town) are more powerful than all the scum roles, which means that after a massclaim, there's actually only one way to build a balanced setup out of the roles that are likely to be claimed (as swapping roles between the scum and town sides would leave it scumsided). Additionally, a Town Neighbourizer would be blatant negative utility in a setup that has a Traffic Analyst; the presence of negative utility town roles is of course not impossible, but this setup clearly wouldn't be balanced with one. As such, it should have been possible to setup-speculate Nahdia as scum (which is something that I hadn't intended to be possible, and didn't realise was possible until after it was too late to change). There's also nothing scum can plausibly do about this, as pretending you're not a Neighbouriser is almost impossible.
Of course, what actually happened is that town didn't even massclaim, so the information that would have broken the setup wasn't there.
