Micro 693: The Simpsons Mafia II (Game Over)
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VOTE: Alisae Votes follow me
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Wrong game Elder Price!-
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1st page lynch is how we do this.-
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Hiraki dies next for not voting Alisae.-
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Well at least someone wants to play.In post 22, Alisae wrote:
lmaaaaaaaaoIn post 15, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:
Follow me to an easy win.In post 13, GuiltyLion wrote:I'll bite. Why?
Looks like you messed up your post restriction.-
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Rofl Best vig ever? Or Worst?-
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Before I was messing around, but I think Alisea is actually scum now, and we should lynch her.
This is a NIGHTLESS game, meaning only scum are going to have "vigs" to make up for not having a night kill. They obviously messed up and showed thier hand, because it looks like actions are supposed to be submitted to the mod and they resolve when we lynch someone (or vote no lynch). Then we start over, probably without me because alisea is going to OMGUS shoot me.-
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Well how does everyone elses ability work? Resolves at the end of the day?
I dont think they thought it through, scum is going to have all the vigs int the game because its night less.-
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2+2 = 4
Think about it. If it still doesnt make sense, try to think about it until it does.
I'd like to hear from Aliseas for their thoughts.
If part of the equation changes ill let you know.-
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That's not it at all.In post 65, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:The fact he's trying to push as scum having the day kill rather than there being a day kill in general. Sometimes GL, it's the small slips that matter.
I'm saying Alisea THOUGHT they had a day vig, but really its just a vig that resolves itself in twilight after a lynch or no lynch, which is what the scum would have in a night less game.-
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I can't make an sense of this. I was at L1, and scum could have easily hammered me with little worry. Alisea was close enough to a lynch where scum could have swung vote thier way as well.
Scum knows who is town and who is not. So WHY would they use an ability to end the day to frame me when im at L1. L1! And the other wagon was town too! Why would town activate the ability? Why would they waste an ability like that?-
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I never said "day vig" can you point this out to me?In post 103, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:This goes back to saying that scum have the Day Vig, because he's scum and he knew that there was a day vig.
Why?In post 103, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:And people saying that scum made the kill during twilight are just trying to cause reason to avoid focusing on Vax.-
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Quote it.In post 105, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Are you really trying to play dumb here?-
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Normally when someone is being framed I would think scum would jsut sit back int he wings and let town write its own narrative concerning everything.
However, considering how stupid the timing was on everything I would expect the scum to actively push my lynch through. Why? It's super safe, because it looks so bad for me! All signs of how things went down point to me for making any sense.
That said I think 1 shots push actually looks towny.-
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I was accusing her of being scum because of the way she was using the vig and the info taht was given by the mod int eh later post. It makes sense that instead of having "night kills" as there is no night, that the scum are going to have vigs that resolve in twilight. I assumed Alisea miss-interpreted this which was explained in a mod post. I still dont know how you get day vigs out of this.In post 109, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:
You are talking about a shot that happened in day 1. Just because you didn't say that exact wording don't try and play dumb. End of the case you was trying to say that Alisae had a day kill and didnt know how to use it and when you got voted up Alisae dies.In post 107, Vaxkiller wrote:
Quote it.In post 105, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Are you really trying to play dumb here?
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SO you think I day vig'd Alisea? Why would I do that?In post 113, CommKnight wrote:I'm tired of you playing stupid. Something ended the day early which seems to be a day-vig.-
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I dont understand this,, is it worded wrong or something?In post 121, Charloux wrote:VOTE: Vax
Today might be the final lynch town can dictate without me, keep that in mind.-
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Interested to hear ASP's thoughts on 1 shot, I mean we have a whole 6 pages... not that much to go on, not that much time is needed.-
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I could totally vote commknight. At least until my next scum read come along (i see them approaching)
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Commknight wants claims bad:
This one is in reference to me.In post 120, CommKnight wrote:Also we should probably push for a role claim at the very least here. Letting him off scot-free is dangerous move as town.
In post 143, CommKnight wrote:Honestly, if 1SVT isn't going to read the game, then he can be useful and claim.In post 144, CommKnight wrote:Today doesn't end without your claim 1SVT.-
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In post 134, CommKnight wrote:
If you are cop and he is survivor, then there are 2 mafia max. 3 scum + survivor (with D1 ending in no lynch due to an ability out of our control) would be TOO OP.In post 130, Hiraki wrote:He's a survivor. If there are 3 scum and they come out full blow, he's going to go with them.In post 135, Hiraki wrote:Who said I'm a cop?
This looked a little fishy before, but with all the "claim" stuff its looks worse.In post 136, CommKnight wrote:You claim he's survivor. Which one would only know if an investigative role.
Anyway, off to bed. Might even be multi factions for all I know.-
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They could be, its just not the first place I would look.-
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Yeah he is.
On another note, feel like the only people playing are 1 shot, hiroki, comm and myself.-
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I have NEVER said to myself "Wow that guy is confident, he must be town" I mean are you not confident as scum?-
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Give me your thoughts hereIn post 164, CommKnight wrote:Did you not see how 1SVT 180'd completely on you? That is suspicious under any lens of it.-
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Not everything revolves around you dude.
Let me put it a different way. You think only one of us is scum? Why would scum!1shot unvote town!vax and push elsewhere when there was little resistance to my wagon?-
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I wrote this off as "its bastard", but even so, 1 shot BP survivor does sound suspicious.In post 169, Hiraki wrote:Frankly, the fact that you haven't questioned him and somehow think that he claimed Survivor as a 1-Shot BP is a little more daunting.-
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At least edo has an excuse, the rest of these ppl tho...-
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Hiraki, he didn't even say ASP was acting alignment indicative.
Shade.-
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Also he should be mad, im mad, I want more participation from everyone-
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What hasnt happened?In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:Why would you say this if it hasn't happened yet?-
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ROFL, they were asking for ppl to post more and I agreed. That's sticking up for them?In post 197, GuiltyLion wrote:also it's weird that you're sticking up for the person that you're voting-
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Edu is on vaca, and ASP was the only person not posting. (I mean char could steup up his game too, but still)-
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TIL I can talk after I'm lynched and agreeing with a point someone made that I'm voting makes me scum.In post 203, GuiltyLion wrote:
you being lynched, or even any sort of wagon on youIn post 198, Vaxkiller wrote:
What hasnt happened?In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:Why would you say this if it hasn't happened yet?
ROFL? What's so funny? Serious question.In post 199, Vaxkiller wrote:
ROFL, they were asking for ppl to post more and I agreed. That's sticking up for them?In post 197, GuiltyLion wrote:also it's weird that you're sticking up for the person that you're voting
And no, you're sticking up for him against Hiraki asking/noting Comm complaining about ASP's inactivity
These comments by you are ridiculous and atrocious, I really dont even know what to think.-
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Hey 1 shot, do you think guilty and hiroki can be scum together?In post 205, Hiraki wrote:Do you think that Comm/Vax could be scum together?
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Hey guilty lion! Hirkoi is agreeing with someone hes voting! Whatcha going to do?-
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This post annoys the crap outta me on so many levels. Snarky "misresps"? I'm using YOUR words. As I see it, you can't explain your point properly. It's that or you are seeing things and making connections, where there is nothing to go on. My snarky comments are my annoyance of someoen saying something ridiculous. Notice how im not snarky with anyone else?In post 212, GuiltyLion wrote:
snarky misreps, boy you sure look town!In post 206, Vaxkiller wrote:TIL I can talk after I'm lynched and agreeing with a point someone made that I'm voting makes me scum.
My point is you weren't being pushed through to lynch, you had two votes. But you come in with "Normally scum would sit back and let town lynch me, but that's probably not going to happen here because I was framed. But I think one of the two people voting me looks town!"
like I just cannot believe that you genuinely thought that way
and 2), youstuck up for him and threw shade at Hiraki. That's far more than "agreeing".
Post 108 Is me saying what I think should have happened, then saying what I think will happen. At what point in that post did I say "It's HAPPENING"
You cant belive that I thought one of the 2 people voting me were town? Why? If people vote for you, are they all going to be scum? Can you believe I'm trying to sort you 2 out.
ANd the fucking creme de la creme.
I'm going to need you to write a fucking thesis on this, becase I'm not understand how you made this leap. Please, explain in great detail how I threw shade on Hiroki.In post 212, GuiltyLion wrote:and 2), you stuck up for him and threw shade at Hiraki. That's far more than "agreeing".
You have these ABSOLUTE rules that make no sense:
-Can't agree with someone you think is scummy.
-If people are voting you, they are all scum.
Hirkoi read? Leeme try.
His iso isnt taht bad. He votes and unvotes as new information comes in, seems to be trying to figure things out.
Post 187 was awful, but thats one post, well, that and the one where he says hes parking his vote on me.
There might be an association with guilty and hiroki, but associatives are so bad before any flip.-
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Serioulsy, waht do you think of that action. This is my serious face:In post 214, GuiltyLion wrote:
Hey Vaxkiller! Are you going to try to sort people or are you just trying to keep sarcastically attacking a strawman solely to discredit my vote on you?In post 210, Vaxkiller wrote:Hey guilty lion! Hirkoi is agreeing with someone hes voting! Whatcha going to do?
also what is your read on Hiraki? p sure you never answered that. And also, what was so funny about my earlier posts?-
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Is an over-reaction?In post 217, Vaxkiller wrote:Serioulsy, waht do you think of that action. This is my serious face:
No this is an over reaction. What the fuck planet are we all on?-
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I'd agree with you, if I wouldn't get scum-read for it.
Yeah, this is really disappointing. 9 pages? ASP,you need to do something more than post every 2 days. Edu, I know your VC/LA, but can you give us a few thoughts? There is not much to read. Earth to char too.-
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At this point I wouldn't turn away from a lurker lynch. I hate policy lynches, but ASP has given us nothing, and if edu comes back after vaca with a few one liners, he can go too.-
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So, 1 shots 180 on me is scummy? So do you think he is buddying me, or protecting me?
I really think 1 shot is town here.-
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I really wasnt thrilled about hirokis posts until 261. It was clear, well thought out, and I think he leans town now.-
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Comm. I was ready to unvote you earlier, because your claim seems legit, but then you go into this 1v1 garbage "its me or him"
I would rather not vote you, but im not lynching 1 shot.-
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UNVOTE:
I'm not feeling really that strongly about comm anymore.
Gun to my head who do I shoot? edu I guess, but tahts really just because I'm trying to sort other people out.-
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I unvoted because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. But now theres even more doubt.In post 335, Hiraki wrote:No, you didn't answer my questions. You are also at L-1.I dont think we are at L-1 tho.
Anyway, Ill "intent" to hammer just in case it is.
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I think char hammered comm and tried to make it look like he didnt! lol!-
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Oh wait he UNVOTED ahh jesus nm-
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Were just going to no lynch today arent we?-
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@guilty
Up until today I was your only scum read you were pushing hard, and you left my wagon. What did I do since Sat that made you re-think this?
Also, 1 shot vote? Can you please explain how you cant wait 1 more lynch for them to prove themselves?
Your town reads are comm and ASP (with a lean for Hiroki?) Would you mind explaining your comm and ASP town reads?
To me this almost looks like scum getting scared that thier lynch pool is shrinking.
@Hiroki, why are you town reading guilty lion again?-
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UNVOTE: comm
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1 shot, there is a good chance you may die "overnight" (not sure how to phrase this is a nighltless game).
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@char, y not guilty? Are you town reading him?-
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Let me rephrase this. Char, why can't "not guilty" be scum. Are you town reading him.In post 394, Vaxkiller wrote:@char, y not guilty? Are you town reading him?-
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One of these days I will get it right:In post 397, Vaxkiller wrote:
Let me rephrase this. Char, why can't "not guilty" be scum. Are you town reading him.In post 394, Vaxkiller wrote:@char, y not guilty? Are you town reading him?
Let me rephrase this AGAIN. Char, why can't "guilty lion" be scum. Are you town reading him-
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You know waht? I have no idea what im doing. I iso'd char becase I thought I was talking to hima and wanted to find out if he ever mentions guilty lion, then I find out he wasnt tehperson im trying to ask the question to, its comm.
@comm, it seems like your town-reading guilty lion. Why?-
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Totally missed this.In post 373, GuiltyLion wrote:So I'm rethinking things
UNVOTE:
I think this is a fakeclaim. My role suggests the presence of aIn post 272, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:TLDR - I am Innocent child that activates day 3.
I was at no risk of being lynched so it's pointless to claim as scum.
Comm is to be lynched today.in this game. That's why I initially townread Vax at the beginning of the game when he was talking about vigs, because of his assumption early in D1 that scum have night kills.Cult
The Alisae kill happened immediately after that, which kinda threw my game spec for a loop, but I absolutely do not believe that a Cult and an Innocent Child can both exist in this game. What would happen if 1SVT was revealed as IC and then was recruited after that? Would his IC status become retracted? Would he remain a cult-ized IC? I don't think such a scenario resolves cleanly or logically in a game like this, therefore I think this is simply a fakeclaim so that 1SVT can push his desired lynch and remain unlynchable today. I'd like to hear what others think about this, and I'll post more reads in a minute.
Suggests or confirms? I mean your seriously suggesting he would fake claim something that lets him live ONE MORE DAY, this reeks of you trying to get rid of someone you know will be a confirmed townie tomorrow under flimsy reasoning. This is a BASTARD game, there are going to be weird mechanics.