Micro 700: Oddrole Mafia III (Game Over)

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: keyen for ez win.

Votes follow me

[Vaxkiller]

We should discuss who's Lich's buddy. I guess we got plenty of info on that based on GuiltyLion's flip.

How?

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: keyen for ez win.

Votes follow me

Haven't played with you for a while!

It's been a while, I'm sorry you have to go so soon.

[Vaxkiller]

Given no information however, would guilty kill frank, or did someone else kill frank? Same thing for guilty. Who has played with guilty before?
I have

[Vaxkiller]

I could see GuiltyLion killing FrankJaegar.

Well thats one explained kill (or possibility) Any ideas for guilty?

[Vaxkiller]

Lets find out and lynch someone.

[Vaxkiller]

If were lucky, more likely were going to lose

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: keyen for ez win.

Votes follow me

Why are you voting key? Is it RVS, or is there some real logic? I'm not asking you to explain the logic. I just want to know if anything is there.

VOTE: keyen for ez win.

Votes follow me

Haven't played with you for a while!

It's been a while, I'm sorry you have to go so soon.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Is this just OMGUS?

VOTE: podoboq

[Vaxkiller]

Guys slow the fuck down, how am I going to catch up in this game. Good lord! 1 post in 17 hours, how am I supposed to keep up in this game. I'm just going to sheep someone with good reads.

VOTE: podoboq

[Vaxkiller]

So are we just gonna wait for scums to force us to suck their dicks or are we gonna scumhunt?

Apparently the former.

I think asking that question is kinda towny. I think what Vax is doing is kinda towny. With so little to go on, I'm happy pushing anybody else so that we can get some people to come in and play.

WIth so little go on im buying this as town for now.

VOTE: The brie

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: horrordude0215

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: horrordude0215

Alright, so what made you decide to vote the slot being replaced?

A birdie told me to

[Vaxkiller]

At least people are talking now

Did anyone else receive a message from anyone?

[Vaxkiller]

And no one is biting.

[Vaxkiller]

I can vote inside these: chickadee,blockyman,keyen,podoq in that particular order as well.

[Vaxkiller]

I can vote inside these: chickadee,blockyman,keyen,podoq in that particular order as well.

Why no Creature?

He is prob town, and if hes not I think I will be able to figure him out tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

I only ask because he has so little content.

Exactly, which is why he gets a free pass today so we can try and sort him out tomorrow. Maybe he will start talking more and get an actually read, but thats where im at with him right now.

I'm actually not into lynch podoboq now either.

[Vaxkiller]

Care to say why I'm at the top of your list?

Replacement slot, POE... very little, its page 3.

[Vaxkiller]

Chick, we should buddy. Who do you think is scumz?

This is really bad tho. I think he may be trying to white knight you.

VOTE: keyenpeydee

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, you seem to be fishing hard for info over there.

And no one is biting.

I think these posts may have made keyen think of that claim.

[Vaxkiller]

I want keyen chickadee blocky as lynches today preferably in that order

[Vaxkiller]

Why should we, you haven't really provided a reason. Unless we are random voting, I don't see why that would be good. Then again, I haven't been here in two years so we might still random vote.

Blockyman hasn't been here in 2 years, looks like we may not see him for another 2.

You guys really think keyen is town huh?

[Vaxkiller]

You guys dont know how to read into something huh?

[Vaxkiller]

Podo likely vax scumbuddy

Care to explain?

[Vaxkiller]

Hey ging, can you do a read through of podoqo and tell me what you think? I'm wavering on him.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm not reacting to you because everything your saying is your bad opinion. I generally don't get pissed about votes on me until im at L1

Now you.

[Vaxkiller]

Podo is weird for me.

That's what I was looking for. I have reason enough now to think EVERYONE is going to be weird to you and you can find something in anyone's iso to scum read.

VOTE: ginghamdog

[Vaxkiller]

To be clear now, im not wavering on podo, hes still town to me.

[Vaxkiller]

Please, your "town reads" have these subtle scum overtones attached to them, as if you are planning on changing your mind later.

[Vaxkiller]

Brie gives me the impression of a townie who is attempting to follow along and contribute, but doesn't have much to say. Time zone could be a factor there. Town tone though, so far.

[Vaxkiller]

eager, you are a crazy active mod with the vote updates! Thank you!

[Vaxkiller]

I can vote inside these: chickadee,blockyman,keyen,podoq in that particular order as well.

Why no Creature?

He is prob town, and if hes not I think I will be able to figure him out tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

Are you familiar with creature?

[Vaxkiller]

Are u scum reading him?

[Vaxkiller]

Are u scum reading him?

Null so far.

So whats wrong with this?:

I can vote inside these: chickadee,blockyman,keyen,podoq in that particular order as well.

Why no Creature?

He is prob town, and if hes not I think I will be able to figure him out tomorrow.

Do you propose we roll the dice and lynch him?

[Vaxkiller]

Why are you avoiding my question? I'm asking you WHY you think Creature is "prob town" when his content (or lack thereof) should put him at null?

I've played with creature before and he is acting like prob town. If he wasn't I would say null.

For now I'm having a hard time believing your scum for going after me the way you are when I'm pretty widely town read.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Keyen

[Vaxkiller]

If the person who sent me a message wants me to say something I will, but I'm not until they say its ok. Anyone trying to get around this by asking everyone to confirm weather or not it was them will be scum read.

[Vaxkiller]

ty

[Vaxkiller]

Thebrie sent me a message earlier stating that we are friends and he is town.

[Vaxkiller]

@Vax what is your motivation for releasing information about the message so early?

I left it up to thebrie they decided it was ok.

If I died tonight I will die with that info, and they will no longer be conf town.

@thebire, sorry I will be more mindful of pronouns in the future.

[Vaxkiller]

Each day or night?

Why are you not acknowledging that you're L-1?

Why do you care?

This looks like distancing, but its almost too blatant.

[Vaxkiller]

I don't know if I'm imagining things. Sure, common Friendly Neighbor has a night action that targets the player to let them know you're town and the mod will pm the targeted player to inform them you're town, but considering how Vax and Brie claimed it, it's scummy considering what they claimed is wrong.

But this is an oddrole setup, so it should be Brie's role. As a mod, letting the players PM each other (unless their role states that they can PM any player) is just too wrong. But this is an oddrole setup, so my speculation could be wrong.

But if they're scum together, this is too dumb to claim imo.

WIFOM BITCHES

lol the PM was not from thebrie directly it was mod controlled which is why I changed alot of waht was said.

[Vaxkiller]

Was it day action or night action?

You don't need to know this info. All you need to know is that thebrie is conf town.

[Vaxkiller]

lol

[Vaxkiller]

@Chickadee, in post 183, Key and Vax are the only two players you admit to scumreading. You eventually voted for Key. Does this imply you think Key and Vax are scum together? And if not, is there another player who would make more sense as Key's partner?

Objection!

Leading the witness.

Overruled!

[Vaxkiller]

I could totally lynch chickadee today btw.

[Vaxkiller]

PAGETOPPERS!

[Vaxkiller]

Best lynch targets:
Key > Chickadee > Ging

[Vaxkiller]

Best lynch targets:
Key > Chickadee > Ging

I actually really like Gingham. Not sure on Chickadee. She's been waffley, but in the right place most of the game. Still good on lynching Key.

I don't like how he calls people scum, but then says "well they could just be bad town" its like him justifying a townie lynch pre-flip

[Vaxkiller]

Sorry, I've been being really bad lately with not using "they" pronouns. I'm going to make an effort to do so, or check the preferred pronoun

[Vaxkiller]

But wouldn't scum!Creature want to AVOID the Key wagon if he can? Scum often want to be off the wagon if they feel confident it's going through without them.

Creature, can you give us some reads?

[Vaxkiller]

Gingham, can you convince me why Vax is town?

Hes scum reading me, so I doubt it.

[Vaxkiller]

Chick is on my lynchpool now that I remembered that ^

Forgot your fake reads?

[Vaxkiller]

gingham, can you look me in the eye and tell me that this isnt keyen scum posting?

[Vaxkiller]

I mean he quotes something and says "I dont feel good about this psot" Really?

[Vaxkiller]

There's this thing called gut and you can't explain it kind of thing.

Yeah it's because you can't

[Vaxkiller]

gingham, can you look me in the eye and tell me that this isnt keyen scum posting?

He reminds me too much of some other sloppy players on this site, who always seem to be lynchbait because they're inattentive and emotional. Momo for instance. I've always said I could be wrong about him, but I just don't think he's scum, sorry.

oh cmon momo does not = keyen

[Vaxkiller]

I know keyens style, off the wall and all over the place.

His posting int he game tho is just going which ever way town seems to be going, and he cites his gut.

[Vaxkiller]

I know keyens style, off the wall and all over the place.

His posting int he game tho is just going which ever way town seems to be going, and he cites his gut.

Can you please expand on this?
So you know my style? Like, lol, we haven't played for a while. Must've played with your alts.

I don't have alts, and its only been 7-8 months, not much has changed.

[Vaxkiller]

We are lynching keyen today, so if your not on that wagon, you need to ask yourself "Waht am I doing?"

[Vaxkiller]

Just relooked, its an old game, but here is keyens town game:

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67926

The differences I am seeing here are he is doing no scum hunting, He's jsut asking questions to ask questions, there is no reason for anything he is doing.

He is scum.

[Vaxkiller]

Lets do eagersnake a favor and just lynch keyen so he doesn't need to be replaced.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, outside of Key, who else do you scum read?

@Vax can you respond to this? I'm not necessarily trying to remove your attention from Key by asking.

Chickadee. You get a leans scum.

[Vaxkiller]

Lets do eagersnake a favor and just lynch keyen so he doesn't need to be replaced.

That's awfully dangerous in a game this small.

How sure are you that Key is scum?

I have a bad habit with conf bias. That said I have tried to look through keyens posts multiple times and I just can't see him as town.

I am VERY sure, sure enough, that if I had a vig, I would have used it by now.

[Vaxkiller]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to see what Key's replacement has to say?

Oh, ok Mr. Town

[Vaxkiller]

Is a replacement like this AI?

Yeah, usually.

I could see key being cornered SK and just mad about it, but I don't understand why mafia wouldn't lynch him in that case. Unless both Chick and Vax are mafia, but that seems unlikely to say the least.

This is another decent reason why I don't think his slot is the SK.

Then lets lynch chick. I'm not as sure about them, but they are next on my list.

Don't make me put percentages to them.

I'm very sure about keyen and im sure about chickadee

[Vaxkiller]

Aristo, I'm so sorry you replaced into a scum slot.

[Vaxkiller]

Keyen had no clear reads, blew which ever way the wind blew, self vote, admitting he was SK, then retracting it, claim seemed..... fishy, when pressure was applied he targeted creature - our resident lurker,

You want more?

[Vaxkiller]

I am of the opinion his replace out is non-AI however.

[Vaxkiller]

My reads are changing.

I am starting to lean slightly more town on Vax. Not much, but somewhat. He's been more or less death tunneling the Key slot, and after thinking about that, that's typically more indicative of town behavior than scum. Scum generally (not always) want to appear more open-minded and are more prone to moving their suspicions around. Now, Vax DID do that earlier in the game, but once he set his sights on Key, he pretty much kept them there.

I'm also toying with the idea that Chick is actually scum flying under the radar. She hasn't done anything outright scummy, but let's see what she HAS done:

A couple times now she's casually moved her vote to the most likely person to be lynched at the given time. She never seems to have any clear reads and keeps her options open, all while appearing vaguely helpful and friendly. She seems to follow other players' leads rather than her own, even players she claims to scum read (going after Key because Vax did, even though she wanted to vote Vax too). She never seems to attack first, but is usually the second or third person on a wagon. Little to no real scum hunting. She seems cautious to rock the boat too much. Doesn't want to draw too much attention, but wants to be seen helping.

None of these items alone would be scummy. But when I put them all together, I am really starting to build a scummy picture of Chick. In fact, I want to pressure it. VOTE: Chickadee

I really like this post. I'm moving creature into your suspected slot.

Also, I want to hear moar from Aristo, but I can totally go for this:

VOTE: chickadee

[Vaxkiller]

he seems lynch happy today.

YUP!

Also its lynch Wednesday. We are lynching someone today.

[Vaxkiller]

@mod Is there a mistake here?

Chickadee (2) [L-2]: GinghamDog, Vaxkiller
keyenpeydee (1) [L-3]: Vaxkiller

[Vaxkiller]

Aristo, I'm not going to forget about you.

[Vaxkiller]

Theres not that much to read dude

[Vaxkiller]

Aristo waiting to talk to his scum bud before posting.

[Vaxkiller]

Prob not, that would implicate podo

[Vaxkiller]

I'm very close to putting Creature at L-1

Please dont, we are lynching chickadee or aristo today.

[Vaxkiller]

Who claimed body gaurd and backup bodygaurd?

[Vaxkiller]

Just realized that Frank never protected anyone because he wasn't actually a bodyguard yet. His role is SLEEPER bodyguard, which I missed the first time I read the first page. Just in case anyone else missed that too.

Frank would only have been a bodyguard if a certain other player was killed before him. So it looks to me like the SK targeted Frank. Which means if there was a mafia kill attempt, it was blocked somehow.

Oh, duh

[Vaxkiller]

For what it matters, I have role-related information that verifies what TheBrie and Vax are claiming. I know 100% that TheBrie is town because of this, no question. She is confirmed to me.

I have no intention of elaborating. I just wanted to put that out there.

I'm not asking you to elaborate on your role, but if you knew I was town, why did you vote for me early in the game?

This would require elaborating on my role, but long story short, I had information without a player to attach that to. Your claim gave me the context I needed to put the entire picture together with regards to the information I had.

Is there a particular reason why you can't elaborate on this BTW.

[Vaxkiller]

SK Guilty Lion Dead

Backup BG Frank - Dead

Backup SK
Scum 1?
Scum 2??
BG

Fisherman (vt) - Aristo
Friendly Neighbor - Thebrie
Town?? Vax
Has knowledge of thebrie role - Podo

Gives us:
chickadee - gingham - creature
2 of these are scum and 1 is the bodygaurd

Do lich buddies know they are backup liches?

anyone one of us could be the back lich I guess. I would say its keyen/aristo tho.

[Vaxkiller]

Aristo could still be scum too I suppose, I really dont like how taht was claimed. But I'm not sure why he would make a post like 439 if he were. It was way to helpful in clarifying my reads.

[Vaxkiller]

Specifically scum reads.

[Vaxkiller]

I figured out podo's role, and no I wont be sharing. So take him out.

[Vaxkiller]

Are we massclaiming?

I mean no, im not, but I have reason to highly suspect 2 out of chick/ging/creature

[Vaxkiller]

At this point, if you put a gun to my head, I'd say it's a Creature/Chick scum team and Aristo as backup SK.

But what about the Body guard? I can't imagine a world where the Body guard is scum

[Vaxkiller]

It's basically gingham + creature or chick scum unless someones role is fake.

[Vaxkiller]

keyen left because he was frustrated, and I'm not sure about his slot anymore.

[Vaxkiller]

Also, I will not be revealing my role. I am in a unique spot where scum will not want to kill me because my flip makes thebrie conf town.

[Vaxkiller]

At this point, if you put a gun to my head, I'd say it's a Creature/Chick scum team and Aristo as backup SK.

But what about the Body guard? I can't imagine a world where the Body guard is scum

I think I know who that is.

It's not podo

[Vaxkiller]

Oh

[Vaxkiller]

Well maybe its who you think it is. (POE)

[Vaxkiller]

I realize that, but this makes the most sense at the moment. Regardless I'm voting chickadee today and will sort the rest out tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

I need some other to step in here and give some thoughts on my reads.

One thing I find odd is that gingham didn't question my townness in this scenario. Have I risen so high in your eyes that I never crossed your mind I could be scum anymore? I am an unknown.

[Vaxkiller]

One thing I find odd is that gingham didn't question my townness in this scenario. Have I risen so high in your eyes that I never crossed your mind I could be scum anymore? I am an unknown.

I want

someone

everyone to check my conf bias on this. I'm starting to feel really strongly about it and im not sure if I should let it go or not. THe biggest reason it bothers me is becase gingham was scum reading me until here: Then said I leaned town... a little, and also swapped opinions on chick:

My reads are changing.

I am starting to lean slightly more town on Vax. Not much, but somewhat. He's been more or less death tunneling the Key slot, and after thinking about that, that's typically more indicative of town behavior than scum. Scum generally (not always) want to appear more open-minded and are more prone to moving their suspicions around. Now, Vax DID do that earlier in the game, but once he set his sights on Key, he pretty much kept them there.

I'm also toying with the idea that Chick is actually scum flying under the radar. She hasn't done anything outright scummy, but let's see what she HAS done:

A couple times now she's casually moved her vote to the most likely person to be lynched at the given time. She never seems to have any clear reads and keeps her options open, all while appearing vaguely helpful and friendly. She seems to follow other players' leads rather than her own, even players she claims to scum read (going after Key because Vax did, even though she wanted to vote Vax too). She never seems to attack first, but is usually the second or third person on a wagon. Little to no real scum hunting. She seems cautious to rock the boat too much. Doesn't want to draw too much attention, but wants to be seen helping.

None of these items alone would be scummy. But when I put them all together, I am really starting to build a scummy picture of Chick. In fact, I want to pressure it. VOTE: Chickadee

Reads change and thats good with the flow of the game, but I figured with a "starting to lean town" read he would include me in the possible scum list with chickadee and creature.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, I'd like yo to consider for a second: let's say I'm town, we lynch me, I flip town, and town somehow makes it through the night. What's your next logical step? Gingham that goes to you too, since you've switched reads on me.

Your asking something that is pretty unlikely to happen, and Im not going to change my vote out of fear. But hey, I'll entertain that.

Depending on night actions POE everyone tahts left, but thats not the answer you want. You want to hear me say gingham/creature likely scum.

The SK is going to be harder to figure out.

[Vaxkiller]

Thebrie, can you unvote plz. 2 possible scum reads are voting alongside you.

[Vaxkiller]

nevermind, only 1 is. i thought gingham was on creature too. STILL podo, unvite before ging changes vote plz

[Vaxkiller]

This is making me nervous, I dont want creature to be hammered.

Out of chick/ging/creature hes the least sure

[Vaxkiller]

2 possible scum reads are voting alongside you.

Who? Me and TheBrie?

Didn't realize who that was addressed to. When did I elevate to a possible scum read?

You didnt, I saw L1 and freaked, assumed ging had voted that way

[Vaxkiller]

Backup SK?

VOTE: Creature

This is mostly for effect. Creature is lurkscumming this game out, and we need to force him to play the game or lose it.

goign off memory here but im pretty sure ging has expressed a creature scum read, so I didnt want a hammer on that if chick/ging scum team

[Vaxkiller]

I'm here this time.

Creature if your not caught up read 439 and the rest of the page (at the very least) and tell me what you think.

[Vaxkiller]

Do you mean BG?

[Vaxkiller]

Frank flipped backup BG, so someone has BG

[Vaxkiller]

?

[Vaxkiller]

Can we fuckin lynch this nonsense?

Yeah go ahead, I'm not going to stop you this time. I still think there is a better chance with ging/chicadee tho. Also gingham is not allowed to vote creature.... well he can, but if he flips town then you are automatic scum in my eyes.

[Vaxkiller]

Can we fuckin lynch this nonsense?

What nonsense?

Hes refering to creature.

[Vaxkiller]

Could someone state the Gingham case clearly? All I picked up was that she seems to have begun to think of Vax as auto town.
I admit I'm slipping into that myself.
I'll do ISO on everyone when I get to my computer.

POE starting with 447 (it actually starts earlier with Aristo's post earlier int he page)

When I listed gingham/chickadee/creature and said 2 out of 3 must be scum team, he never questioned my alignment, even tho I think he should have.

Post 452 he says hes not BG, he then tries to figure out who the BG is, but doesnt mention how 2 of the 3 remaining are likely scum.
post 454 he pushes creature
post 455 he reconsiders keyen

Its a small read, start with post 447

It's basically gingham + creature or chick scum unless someones role is fake.

This is possible.

[Vaxkiller]

I'll be on later around 9:30-10 est tonight, dont lynch anyone without me. I'm very invested in this game.

[Vaxkiller]

Aristo is the body gauard. He has to be. No I dont care about outting him. Whats the diff, its a body gaurd.

[Vaxkiller]

POE, no one else claimed, I could totally see key fakeing his role to not out it (not sure why tho)

Aristo, you need to be more in this game.

[Vaxkiller]

You people talk more than I can read

It's not that much.

I hadn't seen the other claim when I wrote my spec, so that needs to be addressed. It also changes things so something can't be real...

Interested in what this is...

[Vaxkiller]

It feels weird asking a PR to out themselves on Day 1,

Yeah, thats my original line of thinking. But its a body guard. Scum know it exists, why would they TARGET the body guard? So it seems irrelevant weather we know or not.

I'm like 90% sure I know podo's role, and its not body guard.

[Vaxkiller]

And it's really not you?

It's really not. I just double checked

[Vaxkiller]

If I claim body guard in the future, im scum.

[Vaxkiller]

@Vax I don't want to say too much, but there's a specific reason pertaining to my role as to why I'm less inclined to entertain you as scum as I did before.

This bothers me. What has changed in the game state that would make you think this. I havent claimed or anything.

[Vaxkiller]

Also, I have a question for you. Remind me: at what point specifically did you start believing you knew Podo's role, and why?

If your look for crumbs, there are no crumbs, just POE.

[Vaxkiller]

I dont know why im engaging with you

[Vaxkiller]

I mean I dont know why Im talking about other peoples roles with you.

[Vaxkiller]

The chances of finding the SK are so small today... and you want to change your vote now to look for them?

Our lynch pool is chick/ging/creature

[Vaxkiller]

2 out of 3 of them are scum, it gives us the highest chance of wnning

[Vaxkiller]

No, I'm not BG.

Which makes aristo the BG, or someone else is lying (maybe because they are the lich?)

@MOD When you become the lich do you lose your previous ability? Do you know before the 1st lich dies that you are the backup lich/lich buddy?

[Vaxkiller]

@mod is it possible to have a backup role with no primary role in place?

They may not be able to answer this... but that could mean that the backup role just becomes a BG when there is no other bg in the game. SO essentially they are just a BG.

[Vaxkiller]

GuiltyLion has died!
They were a

Lich (sk)

!

Spoiler: GuiltyLion - Lich (sk)

You are a

Lich (sk)

!

You can kill a player each night. If you are killed, your soul will transfer to [BUDDY1], and they will become a lich in your place. However, if they are already dead, your soul will be lost.

Actions:

kill [player]

: Kills another player. A doctor can prevent the kill, and some roles are immune.

You win if the lich is in the final two and there are no other killers.

FrankJaeger has died!
They were a

Sleeper Bodyguard (town)

!

Spoiler: FrankJaeger - Sleeper Bodyguard (town)

You are a

Sleeper Bodyguard (town)

!

Right now, you don't have any powers, but if [BUDDY1] dies you will become a Bodyguard.

You win when all the bad guys are gone.

Crap, I think we ahve been reading this wrong.
Hes not a backup body guard. If person X dies he becomes a body guard.

I think the same works for the lich. However i have no idea if they can still use thier previous abilities.

[Vaxkiller]

@Vax I don't want to say too much, but there's a specific reason pertaining to my role as to why I'm less inclined to entertain you as scum as I did before.

This bothers me. What has changed in the game state that would make you think this. I havent claimed or anything.

I know it was an obtuse thing to say, but saying any more would give too much info on my role. Although I will say I was wrong about thinking you're the BG, if in fact you're being truthful about that.

Also, I have a question for you. Remind me: at what point specifically did you start believing you knew Podo's role, and why?

Given this new info what is your inclination toward me now?

[Vaxkiller]

Creature & Chick, are you BG?

I'm not. But I am town.

I am going to assume there is an aspect about my role that has not been made aware to me, because I'm vanilla town. Not an odd role, I know, which is why I assume there's something about my role that has not been revealed to me.

Wait, are you saying you were specifically given the role of Vanilla Town? Or that you have some kind of role like Fisherman, which is basically vanilla?

Specifically given the role of Vanilla Townie.

lol scum claim!

Did you look at the list of roles?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12368

There is no such role. All "Vanilla" towns have interesting names like "Fisherman"

[Vaxkiller]

I was looking at that earlier thinking about that, and one of you distracted me. I can't believe I let it slip by.

[Vaxkiller]

We are lynching chickadee today and examining gingham/creature for scum tomorrow (plus lich)

[Vaxkiller]

IF SOMEONE IS LYING ABOUT BG, body guard thebrie plz, scum wont kill me because when I flip it makes thebrie super conf town.

[Vaxkiller]

I'll be on later if you silly geese want to try lynching someone other than chickadee. I'll talk you out of it.

[Vaxkiller]

I dont buy it. Ill be on later.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm here. You guys are seriously advocating to lynch creature town? PODO CMON We need to lynch these 2. chickadee.gingham

[Vaxkiller]

The admitted as much to make it sound innocent and fun. THey need to die!

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, let it go, we're all pretty fine with this. You're just death tunneling me. I knew you were going to get here and just tell everyone to forget it and lynch me.

If that's what you really want, then fine, push for it. But I am VT, and I will flip as such, and it will put town in an awful spot.


VOTE: Creature

^because waiting for Vax didn't do anything to change what I was going to do.


Creature is at L-1

The vote gingham!
VOTE: Gingham

either will do!

[Vaxkiller]

Really just the podo question, not Creature.

where?

[Vaxkiller]

Cheese and crackers people dont let these guys vote creature!

[Vaxkiller]

I still don't remember/understand how or why you feel confident about Podo's role. Be vague if you must, but I need a little more to grab onto.

It's FRIGGIN POE. I looked at the list of roles, I looked at what he said and gathered what made sense! I still don't know why I'm answering the scum teams questions. Or what this could possibly even change for you. If this town had to vote for a leader I would be in friggin charge. I love how you start 55/45'ing me in that post.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm not claiming unless it's absolutely necessary.

I think your worried about claiming podos role.

[Vaxkiller]

Podo, wheres your vote? Creature vote is a town friggin loss.

[Vaxkiller]

Also, I will not be revealing my role. I am in a unique spot where scum will not want to kill me because my flip makes thebrie conf town.

Just remembered you said this. I know something about you, and I don't see how it jives with what I know.

If you know something out it and ill confirm it

[Vaxkiller]

Is chickadee and option for you? It jsut bothers me so much that chick/ging seems liek the obvios choices.

If Creature is scum, why the fuck would he claim pinata in a game with blood thirsty peopel ready to lynch him?

[Vaxkiller]

Also, I will not be revealing my role. I am in a unique spot where scum will not want to kill me because my flip makes thebrie conf town.

Just remembered you said this. I know something about you, and I don't see how it jives with what I know.

If you know something out it and ill confirm it

Tell me what you did with Creature night 1.

Fuck your town!

I think, let me check the roles.

[Vaxkiller]

Hmm I mean your role could be scum related. That checks out tho

[Vaxkiller]

Ok, so can we just kill chickadee then?

[Vaxkiller]

I need to think about this, my world is rocked

[Vaxkiller]

Heres my thought process right now:

Chickadee still seems like ob scum, but who is the prtner? I dont think its creature. Gingham WAS the next sucmmiest in line, but, ARRRRGh this is painful, they might be town. I mean you are literally asking for people roles sometimes, scum really dont do that, it puts them out in the open, and its certainly not necessary in this game, especailly with the info you have

[Vaxkiller]

lol way to go autocorrect

VOTE: Vax

lol wut?

the brie is a friendly neighbor who messaged me

[Vaxkiller]

So who is next in line? Well aristo seems obvios, btu i kinda had him pegged as the lich, so who next? well podo

[Vaxkiller]

When I first replaced in, I noticed a lot of deflection away from Creature coming from Vax. And given night 1, I was under an early impression they might be scum team, which I kept to myself. I'm not exactly throwing that out yet.

So you saw me target him and you thought we were scum team together?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Vaxkiller]

Ok, im sorry, im just still on the fence about you. I really need to go to bed, I hopefully wont be psoting anymore tonitght

[Vaxkiller]

Welp.

How are we gonna continue here? Vax, if you have role related information that makes you believe Creature is town, I'll listen to it, but if you want to not claim your role, I'm still interested in lynching Creature here.

I do not have a conf town on creature

[Vaxkiller]

podo waht were your results from last night?

[Vaxkiller]

Im reading you got no results?

[Vaxkiller]

BTW I had you pegged as astrologer, which is why I used to think you are town.

[Vaxkiller]

Claim.

NO. I will claim when its time, and its too early at the moment. DID podo receive any information?

[Vaxkiller]

Also, you claimed tracker? Why did you watch podo last night?

[Vaxkiller]

pick 2 scum team

chickadee/gingham/podo

[Vaxkiller]

So Gingham is claiming a power role, and Vax isn't denying visiting someone, which means he also has a definitely power role. I have reason to believe that either Chickadee is town, or her role is giving me some kind of false result.

There's a vanilla townie in this game.

My role is Cheater. At the beginning of the day, I receive a random role card that is present in the game. I cannot see a role card that has already flipped, but I can see one that flips at the beginning of the current day phase.

I can prove my role, because I know that TheBrie has a modifier. I'd be happy to claim it if she's comfortable with me doing so.

I knew TheBrie was town, because I saw a TOWN copy of Friendly Neighbor (with modifier), and then that information was claimed.

Today, I saw an actual vanilla townie. So either Chickadee has a weird Godfather variation, or she's actually just a vanilla townie. I'm not sure which of those two things I believe yet.

If Chick is town, then Vax and Gingham are the scum team.

Ahhh
Dude! You just scum claimed!

If chick is town and your town who is left>? I know who I am and the brie is conf town. Why did you guys kill aristo??? You could have left some things open with that.

Podo/chickadee

Im a doctor

[Vaxkiller]

I doc'd creature night 0? (before the game started) and I tried to draw the lynch to thebrie by saying killing me made them conf town, and I doc'd them last night. I can't believe they killed aristo!

[Vaxkiller]

Does everyone follow my logic in post 754 or do I need to explain it better?

[Vaxkiller]

If the team is podo/Chick, then explain the discrepancy between my result and podo's result. I'm listening.

I think podos scum, he is lying, there is the discrepancy. I was too quick to call chick scum here tho. My thinking is he wanted to verify his scum buddy's claimed role.

How the fuck do you get Vax=scum from watching him target me?

[Vaxkiller]

And it HAS to be Chick because if podo saw Vax, and Vax did some other action (whether Doctor or some scum role), then Chick would HAVE to had made the kill.

Ahh, I forgot about this. So you saw him target me so that means he could not have submitted the kill.

5 left

I know thebire is town and i know im town, so the lynch pool is podo/ging/chick

Podo "clearing" chick makes a scum team of ging and ? this is why I said he scum claimed.

So now its podo with ging or chick.

My first reaction was t has to be chick, because podo lied, but im still not sure, because you are pushing me on shitty logic. It really could go either way the current way im thinking about it.

But podo is conf scum.

[Vaxkiller]

I think you guys have basically said enough while writing out my previous thought to convince me the scum team is both of you.

PODO needs to go first in case im wrong about gingham. Podo is conf scum

VOTE: Podo

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, why would you protect someone on Night 0 when you have no clue who anyone is? You could've been protecting scum. I only see you using a night action before the game starts if you know you're hitting someone who's not on your side.

Protecting scum from who? I figured I could get a soft clear if anyone saw my actions and they didnt die.

[Vaxkiller]

Gingham you didnt think this through from my point of view when you were planning this push. Read 772

[Vaxkiller]

Chick is the only confirmed scum. Town would want to lynch confirmed scum.

HOOOOOOOW???

[Vaxkiller]

I understand that, but what do you think is most likely?

If it's not Vax/Chick, then who do YOU think it is? You would have to be pairing me with one of them. I wouldn't be bussing Chick right now if we were scum. And I wouldn't have tracked Vax if we were scum.

SUch bullshit, you guys painted yourself into a corner. GO AHEAD TRY AN PROVE IT CAN BE ANYONE ELSE BESIDES YOU 2.

[Vaxkiller]

SEEEE!

[Vaxkiller]

I TOLD YOU PODO WAS CONF SCUM! I was wrong about ging, but I wanted to sort taht out tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

Excellently modded game eager

gg everyone

[Vaxkiller]

had fun would play again. Listen to reason next time guys!

[Vaxkiller]

You played very well podo

[Vaxkiller]

Oh wow if we lynched chick yesterday, I would have been 100% lost in the future with them flipping VT.

[Vaxkiller]

You were great too, sry bout my pronouns.

[Vaxkiller]

Naw, you were just trying to figure stuff out. It didnt help that I was not around Sunday either.