Micro 696: Another Mafia — Game Over!

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VOTE: Tuesday

club going up

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VOTE: Dunnstral

Wagon this it's probably scum he didnt even RVS vote LMAOO

Dunnstral has this problem with his scum games - you can see his internal processors short-circuiting in the first few posts because he has to adjust

It's very easy to identify

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I endorse this

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I'm surprised Zach is not saying more, he's a bit of a talker.

I must be scum this go round

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You should leave RVS buddy you know I'm not a bad guy

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serious vote

why are you coasting

Ill coast your body off a cliff into a pirate chest Dunn, how about we do that


You've done the same thing I have this game, you've just taken more posts to do it.


& we on page 3


Form a bloc with me PAL do something constructive with yourself

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Sometimes I do gambits where I form town blocs with scum players, I'm a master strategist like that roman guy

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Dunn, what is your experience with Zach like?

UNVOTE: Shannon

Dunn track record for reading me correctly is a little questionable my man, just letting you know

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He doesn't really do anything as scum, but sometimes he doesn't do anything as town either



I usually end up voting him just to push him but I think he's mafia here

You're wrong again..

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So does your read on me only depend on if I do what u say

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You just asked me to do something now you want me to do something on my own?


See these mixed signals are the prpbmI think

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Beep

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I'm sorry but this wagon happened fast as shit


I wouldn't mind except I have no clue why

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Facts ... the accuracy

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VOTE: xyzzy

Wagon, go.

VOTE: xyzzy
Let's get a nice wagon and generate content!

a wagon where 2 out of the 3 votes has "there should be a wagon" as their reason for existing is a forced wagon.

also, you didn't claim to be scumreading me until after you had voted me, and I hadn't made any posts in between those two posts of yours, so the fact that you went from merely wanting to be on a wagon to actively scumreading me happened independently of any action on my part.

A d1 wagon is rarely anything but forced. It's a great way out of RVS and people's reactions speak quite loudly. The change in my attitude on the wagon intent came as a direct reaction to your content actually. Just because you didn't post in that timeframe doesn't mean squat - there was enough in your ISO so far to be concerned about.

This is actually your best post by far.

Uh.. am I wrong when I say most Day 1 wagons happen naturally as opposed to forced

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The bait has been set.

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Dunnstral hasn't even addressed shannon's vote on him.

Very conspicuous.

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Exhibit A: Deflection

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Dunnstral is a far better Day 1 lynch here IMO

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What are your thoughts on ChrisOrmie

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Explain that SR maybe?

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I did make a joke
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What is your "not joke" response to the question

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VOTE: xyzzy



unless dl already

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Chris

Sorry. You're second option. We should have got a Dunnstral wagon earlier but I don't know what the fuck has been going on this game.

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L1

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You said you knew you'd be the next quicklynch. Why didn't you claim right then?

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I guess it's sort of interesting that you believe you can get 4 other votes on me in less than two hours.


Bad speed wagon tho. But I believe your claim.. even with the AtE


UNVOTE:

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Oh, it is your birthday. I didn't even say anything. Happy birthday.


Your present is you get to unvote me

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Scum***********day

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xyzzy doesn't need to vote themselves again, a hammer is a hammer when the hammer happens

i mean not that it matters now

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and since there were unvotes

VOTE: xyzzy

this vote wouldn't be a hammer it would be a normal vote


if

deadline


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VOTE: Zachstralkita

it take violence to break silence and i feel threatened

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No, but we get a confirmation that it isn't just "You secretly need one extra vote to hammer" if they vote themselves and their vote doesn't show up.

Wouldn't the mod's VC be up to DL not past it? IDK

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free jeanne 11

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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I don't know if that claim was the most super idea, shannon.

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It's happening

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Y'all can have your ass town bloc

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It's not even a bad town bloc but it will have the town bloced

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I believe Chris's claim

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well our new lynch pool is gigabyte/Dunnstral

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I don't feel like he's trying to solve this game

BULLET HIT THE GLASS LEAVE THE CAR SPINNING... HIS HEAD RAM ON THE STEERING WHEEL LIKE THE DODGE EMBLEM

zach has been underperforming and i'm more interested in pressuring him

Rather disingenuous considering no one this game has really been performing except shannon imo, with a side of chris and a dash of xyzzy.


Especially not star boy Dunn.. refer to his ISO and then look at the post where he says I haven't been solving

We've done varying degrees of nothing this game, granted he's done less nothing than me but to say that he's done

something

is a moderate degree of reachiness


I'm actually beginning to think you're more scummy than him, it's a toss up

You have actual no real reason to scumread me though


pedit.. shaziro is scummy for that last post LMFAO

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zach i feel like you've been deliberately doing nothing here though

why am i scummy

Part of it has been RL stuff which should no longer interfere with my activity


The other part is my discretion



I probably think you're scummy for the way you're reading me like I fit a clear meta and the Dunn buddying

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Dunn, bless his heart thinks he can read me... he did somewhat decently in the last scum game I had that he was in but other than that it's hit or miss and depends on luck

i dont think you fit a clear meta though - tbh i have no clue how to read you

why am i buddying dunn and not strongly townreading him while trusting his judgement?

You'll have to take me on a tour of the gear factory in Dunn's head sometime

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ironically giga everything you quoted from dunn makes me want to vote him LMFAOOOO

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No I most certainly do not need any rope ty

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Why am I scum?

Dunn's scum because I don't like that shit he does where he doesn't explain any of his thought processes at all

combine with normative Dunn behavior and you can't really tell his true intentions

you're not really that scum atm

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He's been one of the only people I've interacted with - I play reactionary - it happens

He's Dunn - I talk shit to him

What you're saying is true about Dunn I just don't think it applies here as you say it does. You seem to have a handle on it tho so do you

The first game we played together I was scum lol do you think your argument here is likely? That I do jack shit here? Even if there's no clear way to read me there's very minimal benefit for me to play this way. I don't need to do nothing, I could have faked doing something.

It's not even WIFOM..

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? I'm responding to you not arguing trivial shit

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allow me to redirect that to the question "in what way am I trying to discredit Dunn as a player"

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I think Dunn is a great player. Why do I need to discredit him as scum? All I have to do is hit him with the one-two emotional jab combo, maybe the uppercut, that will disengage his robotic defenses and he will show me sympathy and then I just CUT OUT HIS WIRING AND DRINK THE ELECTRICITY. Throw in some cat ears and cat tails and other things that Dunn likes. Boom. I've basically got a collar on him. Or reach deep into the recesses of my mind and unlock the [final form] Zachstralkita scum game. Dunn's seen it once. Or twice. I actually think he was on my team for that one on IMP LMAOOOOOOOOO

Plus I've stated I have reason to be dubious of his ability to read me consistently - it's not because Dunn's bad it's because look I don't even know what the fuck goes on in my head, so don't expect to be that sure of it yourself. And you did it this game. And you just happen to be wrong, Dunn. I could be wrong, about, like, you know, a lot of things, man, it's not that deep.

When pressed, he says "I don't think he's been trying to solve this game."

WOW.

Let me just fucking start clapping for that one. You need to teach me, Dunn. Teach me to do what you do, because I am merely a broken pebble in the fucking avalanche compared against your mythical wisdom.

I understand the gripe with me having mostly shit posts but it's not like I literally sit here and do nothing. Plus we're on Day 1.

giga, you and me read Dunn different clearly that's why we disagree. I've known him for a long time... I didn't just pull a brick out of my ass, write "Dunn" on it and throw it at this game.

Could I be wrong? Sure. Could you be wrong? Sure.

It's yet to be determined.

The "ghost town" atmosphere of this game has also been like contributing to this. Even when people are doing things I don't feel like a lot is happening. We need to get a lynch and stay it. No unnecessary claims. Look, it'll be real easy to lynch me, but you gotta think of the children, giga. The baby snow leopards and ocelot cubs.


VOTE: Shaziro

I'm rocking with this wagon

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To actually answer what giga says before, Dunn plays similar town/scum so if you want me to CITE things for you to look at we need to see more of his play, because a lot of Dunn's statements aren't things you can take and attribute concrete motives to imo. FEELS is what I read him off of early.

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So... you want us to

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LMFAOOOO

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Explain your SR on Dunn, please.

I mean. You are on my wagon atm. I don't know if you're scum or not, but just throwing a vote out there on me to "see what sticks" sounds like a scummy move, unless you're just aiming for pressure...but I'm not exactly sure why you think I need pressure.

What purpose does it serve shannon to mention this explicitly instead of making something up which is relatively easy to do? That reverse si.. sye.. cycleg.. that word?

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Dunnstral is still on me.

shannon threw a wagon on you, the comment that Dunn made referring to you is circa like 6-7 pages ago. When Dunnstral made that vote then, he went to xyzzy a short while later.

He has relatively little to do with a wagon on you now, I think.

Which is why it's weird that you're voting there as opposed to shannon at the moment.

Also weird is what you just said, he's trolling so you think he's scum here.

I just look to see if Dunn is trolling or not.

I just look to see if Dunn is trolling or not.

This game is pretty troll

Go to Dunn's ISO from this post on. Shaziro's vote implies to me that he garnered Dunn was scummy from the 6 posts after that. 1 of them is a quote from me so 5 posts. Those 5 posts are NAI... I don't even think they can be considered trolling

When you made #322 you left it pretty ambiguous as to what your stance on Dunn was. Now it appears to be scum, but I just can't see how you put scumDunn over scum shannon in your position, if we're talking about who's pushing you or not.

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And if you felt that Dunnstral was scummy for his posts BEFORE said posts, why weren't you on him with me when I was pushing him?

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Y switch shannon.. Shaziro already fell for the triple bypass

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I don't think lurker lynch =/= policy lynch.

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shannon's vote is what made it a wagon.


And I think we should lynch you. How are you indifferent at this point? That feels like a cop out, like you don't want to draw attention for having a certain opinion. I mean, you have to have an opinion.. you named something that was scummy fypov... but you're still not sure? Not a little bit?

Oh you're... comfortable with your vote there.


I'm comfortable with mine too

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You're making what I said black and white.

You said not sure as in can't decide, when I don't recall you ever expressing anything you felt towny about him.

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Back to this thread for a brief time! Not sure on alban, though the "Yeah I'm lurking but don't vote me" angle has me uncomfortable with him too.

To answer you, Zach, straw that broke the camel's back I guess? Then again I did acknowledge that I might just be biased. That could be all it is, honestly. But it's my d1 vote and it's hardly permanent, and I'm comfortable with it there for the time being. Also, by "shannon threw a wagon on you" do you mean to suggest shannon was the first to vote me, or that shannon was the second and made it a "wagon"?

And here you say "straw that broke the camel's back" which would indicate multiple fucking straws, which by all means I think would point to a scumread on Dunn, but you treat it like it's a casual vote.





Shannon made it a wagon because I think her presence prompted discussion about you. Which matters.

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I think Shaziro lynch > alban lynch FWIW that's just my opinion though

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Thanks for replacing in mod

As for Jeanne, idk you but hope you're ok!

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xyzzy, you don't believe Chris' claim?

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Why didn't you say anything relating to his claim when he claimed it? Feels like it would have been much more applicable.

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define "suspicious"

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Yeah if you're going to scumread someone who claimed, please talk about their fucking claim

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Bodyguard on me tonight btw

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Great, we have 7 days to lynch Shaziro

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You had like an infinite amount of time to lynch alban. He hasn't done anything different now than then..

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351 is high quality towniness^tm

this might be your most goodest read this game

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*jingles cat collar bells* *dunn alerts*

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shaziro thats l1

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Yes you need to out how many shots

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I didn't ask for no reason... your cooperation is in the best interest of the town

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the information you're worried about is negligible compared to my concern

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claiming bp in it self is already more important to scum than the amount of shots


You benefit town nothing by hiding stuff here

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actually that's not really as relevant as the fact that I think you're a scum bp

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If I had to provide an answer to that question it'd be that the town benefits because he's a scum 1shot bp


imo

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lol

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Bro dunn wrote the first fucking letter and all the reads he gave as me didn't match what I said day one LMAO

It made me think he was scum