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Post #159 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:27 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 158, theslimer3 wrote:Leaning. There's not enough evidence so I'm treating it as though it's isolated due to behavior. He could be bussing but until I get a stronger read, I'm just watching his interactions and such. If he turns out to be scum though I am fully in favor of a beetrap lynch
Yay \o/ Infinity is official off limits to lynch!
Well, the wagon doesn't seem convincing, BBT's reasoning doesn't seem convincing, this looks like Beeboy's town game. As I said, it's not odd for Beeboy to town read certain faces easier than others.
Also reminds me of their opening in viewtopic.php?f=84&t=68127
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Post #167 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:08 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 165, GuiltyLion wrote:this game does feel slow, seems everyone is being cautious and I haven't had any bonafide scumreads, just a few townreads
Okay, so why voting Beeboy? 103 suggests this is where you are leaning most as scum, why should I vote with you?
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Post #169 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:24 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 168, GuiltyLion wrote:it's mostly that he hasn't done anything. He wagoned java and then unvoted and gave a townread on Wisdom - which he walked back some when I pushed him on it - and that's it. I haven't seen him actively trying to sort anyone yet. I get why some people are scumreading slimer but at least slimer is actually talking to people and asking questions
I'm not scum reading Slimer, my vote is a place holder while I get a general idea of the game. I do want them to explain what he meant though, considering they were supposed to be active tonight?
Do you think Java has done more than Beeboy?
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Post #189 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:56 pm
Postby Vedith »
In post 180, theslimer3 wrote:Ah, basically saying if BBT is scum then I'll see his actions on beeboy as tunneling. Otherwise unless I'm convinced that he is scum, beeboy is practically null to me. I think.
I'm still unclear. How can BBT be tunneling Beeboy, and if flipped scum, then Beeboy is only null?
In post 169, Vedith wrote:Do you think Java has done more than Beeboy?
I liked his 71 and his general response to the early wagon. I don't think he's done much either, but I'm not interested in pressuring/voting him instead of beeboy if that's where you're going with this question.
Why did you like 71? It looks like a standard question to me.
I'm not suggesting you vote anywhere else right now, I'm getting an understanding of your opinion, since Beeboy is your vote due to him not doing anything, I wanted to know why you weren't focused else where (even more so for the same reasons).
Why are you not interested in applying pressure on Java though?
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Post #244 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:15 am
Postby Vedith »
I've never played a game with Beeboy being active, or at least to a state where you notice the difference.
And the last encounter I remember I already linked.
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Post #279 (isolation #27) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:28 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 276, Infinity 324 wrote:Vedith, in my, java's, and guilty's experiences, beeboy tends to be a lot more active and energetic than this as town, and you've yet to properly address that. All you've done is given a town game of his in which he played very differently, and arguably was much more present than in this one.
Could this be a WK?
If it's WK then you believe him to be town? So why the intent?
Also, his play from our game doesn't differ much from here. So far the only reason for his lynch is because he's not posting a great deal.
Sorry but I'm not sold by that. Anything else?
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Post #293 (isolation #31) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:42 am
Postby Vedith »
Im working out motives and reasons.
If Beeboy is town then his entire wagon isn't town. Otherwise it would have been hammered or more of a convincing reason would have been given.
Why does Beeboy have a higher chance of flipping Scum?
Do is your intent here to lynch or to get a claim? Because that's 2 different things by far.
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Post #341 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:25 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 340, GuiltyLion wrote:also my question wasn't really about what him jumping off the wagon
says
about his alignment, moreso like what's your read on Wisdom and how are you reading the situation
I'm asking you do you think Wisdom is town and you're just complaining at him, or are you calling it out because you think it could be scummy, and you're dodging
The situation is NAI. I answered that.
Wisdom moving his vote off is NAI - This means there's no scum or town motive that takes priority here imo.
Now, since you want to know my read on Wisdom. Town Wisdom would normally have called me scum, but as of recent it's shown that I don't read Wisdom too well (Wisdom can link the last game if he wants I forget which one it was) but I had him as scum from meta and was wrong.
So I'm open minded, but not decided.
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Post #354 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 348, Infinity 324 wrote:Vedith I know you're still trying to figure stuff out but could I get what reads you have so far?
Java, what do you think about vedith? And did your wisdom read change?
Beeboy town. Still gut
BBT I originally thought town but I don't 're call anything he's done since I joined in
Java town - although I think his reason on Beeboy is weak his response looks very good. Not really enough to go on.
NM is more of a flip to see
You I think are Scum. Looking to prepare a mis lynch for tomorrow.
GL seem to have got defensive over you (or at least aggressive in moving away from you) but that could be because he wants Beeboy lynched and just being a pleb.
Wisdom possible Scum. I don't know, first time he hasn't Scum read me, unless he does...
Slimer gut says Scum. Not a fan of posting plus showing lack of reason for votes or just lacking general opinion.
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Post #362 (isolation #41) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:19 am
Postby Vedith »
Infinity tries less as Scum from what I've seen and that's the only for I have with Infinity town.
He looked more focused on trying to shade me than to get Beeboy lynched and I'm not going to town read him with that.
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Post #382 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:58 am
Postby Vedith »
I'm just looking at your trail of thought.
I think Beeboy is more likely town. So what of it? You're now saying that anyone ever against a leading wagon is WK if that person flips town...
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Post #386 (isolation #53) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:03 am
Postby Vedith »
Nothing. You do you I'll do me.
I disagree with your reasoning... maybe I should say you know GL is town because you think he's town...
Like it makes no fucking sense.
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Post #436 (isolation #60) » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:59 pm
Postby Vedith »
So basically my current option is, vote Beeboy or risk being lynched...
And same for Beeboy apart from they haven't jumped over onto me for the easy ride.
If Beeboy was scum they would of just gone meh and put me to L1.
That should show doubt for your reads for a start.