Micro 720: Pokémon episode 7 GAME OVER

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VOTE: Beeboy

Come at me.

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VOTE: Javajoe

L-1.

NM deserves to be lynched as well tbh.

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and srsly bbt

you think nm should be lynched yet you l-1 a wagon with him not on it?

Why you so serious?

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Other than the fact that it's made up from rvs and no real serious thought went into his wagon at all?

You dislike the wagon?

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An interesting turn of events.

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You kidding? I love wagons. I'm on the wagon

Then why did you try to discredit and play down what was obviously a RVS wagon before the person being wagoned has a chance to respond?

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It doesn't seem like much thought went into this question considering slimer was on the wagon - what are you hoping to accomplish here?

Well, I was hoping he would have said he disliked it. Then I could have said 'Ah ha, you were on the wagon though! Conf!Scum for forgetting you were on the wagon!

Asking this question before the person being asked had answered is bad form tbh.

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Is disliking rvs the same as disliking a wagon?

You answered my question with a question.

I'll give you one more chance to try and answer it.

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but I mean like, do you really think slimer is so bad at scum that she would forget where she was currently voting? I thought you might have this kind of intention but it just seems 'too easy'. And I don't necessarily agree that slimer was trying to "discredit" the wagon, I thought she had other motives for what she posted, but I'll let her answer your 63 first this time before jumping in further.

I mean, that part of my response was 100% sarcastic and I thought that was super obvious even without the eyeroll at the end.

Slimer was very clearly trying to discredit the wagon as well.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

Have a vote.

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so you ask a low effort question that's not really going to tell you much about someone's alignment, I ask you what you were hoping to do with it, you then sarcastically say it would have told you their alignment, and I'm trying to ask you whether you

really

believe that. Are you saying the answer is just "no"? Why am I scummy?

and if you're going to move your vote off of slimer, I'll just say then that I thought their reason for allegedly "discrediting the wagon" was to poke at Infinity who

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asked a pretty weak and surface level question. It's entirely reasonable to both be on an RVS wagon and also ask someone else why they're trying to ascribe meaning to an RVS wagon, and I still don't really follow what the point of your line of questioning was.

Why are you coming at me like you have never seen a low effort question in RVS before?

I have already very clearly shown my reasoning for why I asked Slimer that question - if you're struggling to grasp what it was, that isn't my problem.

The fact you missed the sarcasm makes me think you're probably scum as scum tend to miss the tone of posts a lot more than town. Then there's the whole making a big deal out of a fairly standard question and I get a narrative feel from your push - as opposed to you trying to work out my alignment.

Like, even your first question would have been answered had you waited for Slimer to respond to me first. I don't see you scum hunting - just attempting to push a narrative.

I also don't believe I was voting Slimer at any point in this game. Not yet anyway.

Why did you say 'allegedly' discrediting the wagon? That doesn't fit in with what you're trying to show with your thought process. Did you think she was discrediting the wagon or not? Because if you don't then I don't see where your line of thinking comes from on Slimer (unless you just made it up?) And if you do, well, I don't see why you're questioning my position on that issue.

Which is it?

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By the way guys, for any of you that haven't got the memo; GL is scum.

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I don't think you have?

Then why did you try to discredit and play down what was obviously a RVS wagon before the person being wagoned has a chance to respond?

This is why I asked the question - we have been discussing this over the past few posts and I can't quite believe I'm having to quote this.

Uh, what? Town or scum can miss sarcasm, it's incredibly easy to misread tone in text.

Nah, scum tend to focus on the content of a post as opposed to town who try to understand the emotion/viewpoint behind a post as well as the content.

Also, I don't think I'm really pushing you or selling a narrative here. I've voted you but never said that you're scum, as I don't have any particularly strong reads yet. Where in my posts are you getting the impression that I'm pushing you for lynch?

You're right - why would I take you voting me and then attacking my questioning of another player as a sign you wanted to lynch me. I'm crazy. Is there anyone else you're trying not to lynch? Or just me? (<<More sarcasm)

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Java what do you make of the wagon on you?

Other than the fact that it's made up from rvs and no real serious thought went into his wagon at all?

How is this not discrediting? Infinity is attempting to gauge the reaction of somebody being wagoned (genuine or otherwise) and before the person being wagoned can respond Slimer implies the wagon has no real power/purpose effectively easing any concerns around the wagon that Java might have had.

It completely kills any type of useful response we could have received when the wagon is effectively stopped before it even got going.

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It doesn't matter whether he knows it's RVS or not - people have been hammered on page 1 before and nobody likes that to happen to them.

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Sure, but that's the power of L-1, not pretending that the things that slimer pointed out aren't true. If you want to scrutinize someone for deflating a useful wagon, you should be looking at beeboy first IMO

The power of L-1 doesn't exist when a player on the wagon already expresses the futility of it.

Nah, I don't see anything wrong with what Beeboy did?

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I believe it.

As soon as somebody begins to question the validity of an early game wagon (especially when they're on it) the rest of the people begin to realize the wagon is now pointless and it usually leads to an unvote and removal of the L-1 and sometimes even a stall in the game.

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VOTE: Beeboy

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Beeboy at L-1 would be even funnier.

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Still nothing from Beeboy?

Interesting.

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UNVOTE:

Java might be town.

Why?

VOTE: bbt

java can be town

Why?

Also I think Wisdom is town.

Why?

Then why did you try to discredit and play down what was obviously a RVS wagon before the person being wagoned has a chance to respond?

Slimer you still haven't answered this.

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Thought I had posted in here, my bad.

I'll look into this later tonight/tomorrow night. I'm happy with Wisdom's read on Java being town though, that makes sense to me.

Guess we all waiting for Beeboy?

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Nah

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Is there a reason you haven't hammered Beeboy by the way?

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Why not?

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I think he's town

Doesn't usually stop you

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I could lynch NM.

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Yeah but I want to lynch you I think.

VOTE: NM

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VOTE: Vedith

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bbt did your beeboy read change?

I wouldn't say it's changed, I just really didn't like Vedith's part of your interaction.

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bbt did your beeboy read change?

I wouldn't say it's changed, I just really didn't like Vedith's part of your interaction.

what about when you voted nm?

What about it? I completely forgot I had voted NM tbh.

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So, what we doing?

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VOTE: Beeboy

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VOTE: Slimer

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Two wagons is interesting.

Hammering Slimer is pro-town! Do it!

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Lynching Slimer sounds swell.

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Game is stalling while we wait for replacement.

I'll help out

Intent to hammer Vedith.

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I'll give it some time.

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Vedith, why am I not scum?

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Dangerous to judge my alliance based on somebody elses unknown flip.

I also believe I stated I2H you.

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Steel, your vote is doing nothing.

Do something with it.

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Knew I should have hammered Vedith.

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Was planning on voting Wisdom straight out the gate. I'm good with this.

VOTE: Wisdom

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Last scum is Vedith/NM.

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Don't know why I put Vedith there.

It can only be NM.

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I would love to be able to claim the win but either the Mods incorrectly read my message or I worded it incorrectly and it ended up working out.

What I wrote was 'Any actions performed on Vedith, I want redirecting to NM instead' and I'm not sure that's what happened?!?!

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/pre-in as always Radja.