Micro 725: Nomination Mafia | Game Over!

[Vedith]

Hi.
So, each of you... who's Scum?

[Vedith]

You ain't lynching me for shit, Comm.

[Vedith]

I'm sure I can manage 13 pages.

[Vedith]

Well, so far RB has a better scum list thanAlch.

Alch, tell me why you're not scum.

[Vedith]

Ald, stop scum claiming, let me decide if Alch is scum first.

[Vedith]

Well, so far RB has a better scum list thanAlch.

Alch, tell me why you're not scum.

I'm the only one who really gave a shit on D1.

Is effort AI?

[Vedith]

I dont care what others want to do. If I decide you're town we can lynch else where.
So why did you think BTD was Scum?

View on Comm? He would be Scum.

[Vedith]

Who's up for voting?

[Vedith]

Comm - why are you town?

[Vedith]

Okay I've decided that Alch is town and Comm is Scum.

Chumley- why are you town?

[Vedith]

But why? Lay the case out for me. If you are town it's your job to show me why you read somebody as town or scum.

No, my job is to find scum.
Comm is scum. If you think I'm wrong, you can tell me why but I'm pretty biased.

So tell me, why are you town?

[Vedith]

No I didn't read.
Why are you town? Last time I ask before I set myself to you and Comm as scum.

[Vedith]

Is it a meta read on your part? Have you played with Comm a pretty good deal enough to know when he is scum?

Yeah, me and Comm are best friends IRL.

[Vedith]

Well, the fact that I'm more than willing to be the mislynch if required on the assumption that the current pool is all town and I believe Comm and Alch would be more valuable alive on the assumption, of course, they are town should be telling.

Well, I do like that in all honesty.
Do you have the post(s) where you say this? I can look for them later otherwise as I'm at work.

However, if you 3 are set town, surely it shouldn't matter who is lynched out of the 3 of you?

[Vedith]

He answered me in a scum way to why he should be town.
I think that scum could be Ald and Comm.

Before I explain why on this, how did we get to choosing the 3 people for lynch? Who chose exactly because I wasn't told if I put any names forward.
If everyone chose 3 names, who chose what and why?

[Vedith]

Good evening guys. If we are all 3 towns I'm probably the weakest link since I have a busy schedule and I'm playing a game elsewhere. I'd be willing to take it for the team if need be. No need to rush anything though we should try and get as much info out of the day phase as possible. UNVOTE: Alchemist21

@Vedith

I like this less now...
But I think I'm onto something with Comm and Ald.

[Vedith]

And who ever isn't picked is on the next day?

Scum won't be together in a group 100% on this. There's 1 scum in each otherwise tomorrow (or today) it's a 2/3 chance of them being the chop.

[Vedith]

I'm confident in Alch town here.
I'm also feeling rb as town (but less than Alch).

[Vedith]

Then again. Who do you think would be an easier push out of you and Alch, Chumley?

[Vedith]

I don't read setups. I just go with it in game.

[Vedith]

No worries, I'll be on fully in about 6 hours.

[Vedith]

Comm is caught scum.
So that leaves rb and Ald, and I don't think it's rb.

Easy game, easy money.

VOTE: Comm

[Vedith]

Vedith, I swear to fuck if you're town I'm going to rip into you post-game. You're making me SR you over Aldu (and actually making me think Aldu is TOWN). If it's Aldu/Alch or Aldu/rb and you screwed this up for town by being scummy as usual. I'm going to haunt you.

Also, this is something scum Comm would say.
Thou art too obvious.

[Vedith]

Give me evidence that town CK acts differently and maybe you persuade me and the rest of town. How have you bullshitted your way this long without becoming an auto policy lynch in every game you play?

Because I still give results
We lynch Comm today, I've decided.

[Vedith]

*If I ever make a mistake in a VC please don't hesitate to draw my attention to it either in game or via pm.

Comm should have 4 votes on him.

~HarHar

[Vedith]

I mean, I found scum day 1 recently, lynched 1, vigged the other but was night killed because I called them the scum team.

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My last post in ISO has it.

I mean, that's what you want right, an example?

[Vedith]

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Here I got 1 of my 2 reads right. And I was pretty much unhelpful all game.

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This is what Comm posted, excluding the Mafia, my reads were pretty accurate here on WW/town and I was the main person calling RC WW when others didn't.

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Accurate read on Gamma, although it's harder to say since he was having IRL issues.

[Vedith]

You can go through my games from there because I can't remember the name of games.

[Vedith]

Also, both games Comm pointed to, I barely posted and laid low. The only reason we won the game he modded is because I didn't make my voice heard as much as I do when town.
Comm failed to add the game where I was town and I was loud all game, called Gerry and Random scum day 1 (right on Random) and was loud all game.

So yeah, this is scum Comm.

[Vedith]

@Vedith,

do you suppose it's possible that scum put all Town in the 3 to be lynched today, thinking that we would assume a 1:1 split and lynch in those 3 again if we get it wrong today? Have you read the interactions between Ald and Comm and still think they're scum together, or have you only looked at them individually?

I haven't read anything previous to joining in.
I don't understand though? Scum chose to put you 3 up, then the other 3 players are in the pool to lynch, or scum just choose again?

[Vedith]

On odd-numbered Days, normal lynching mechanics apply.

Ah, I get it now.
Okay, that could alter things.

[Vedith]

Comm, I'll give you a second shot. Why are you town?

[Vedith]

CK's recent posts make me think he's much more likely to be town. And there's basically 0 chance the scumteam is CK/Vedith unless it's the most amazing bussing of all time. I'd be willing to go with an Alch lynch since my confidence that CK is town is closer to my confidence that Alch is town now.

Woah, slow down kiddo. Eating your wheatabix and think you're one of us adults ready for work...
Why not Chumley? They asked for town proof and when delivered they stopped posting.

Tell me why Alch is more scum than Chumley.

[Vedith]

So if both town reads, why are you willing to lynch Alch over Chumley?

[Vedith]

I don't read as either alignment.

[Vedith]

Why do people keep dipping when I ask them something?
That won't stop me from asking, so just get on with it.

Given both Ald and Chumley have been online since I asked my questions but haven't answered...

[Vedith]

You're right, I read the time wrong.
Chumley on the other hand...

[Vedith]

I'll give both people I want to respond to answer. But I actually agree here. Comm and Alch are town here.
Chumley might be scum, if not we only lynch in me(not me)/rb/ald.

If Chumley is scum, then I think Ald will be too for the fact of saying he will vote Alch and ignoring Chumley.

[Vedith]

Why not?
Lynch Alch - Flips town
Pushes for me or rb to be lynched - flips town

Scum win.

[Vedith]

It's almost 7am though. I'm going to bed.
It's a shame this game didn't move tonight as Saturday's are my active days.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Chumley

Why rb?

[Vedith]

You see how easy a town block can fade when pressure is applied?
What did you get from my games posted, Chumley.

[Vedith]

So we're agreed. We lynch you.

[Vedith]

I get lynched a lot more as Scum than town.
That's because as Scum I avoid the game. I avoid being loud.

So your theory here is wrong.

[Vedith]

I find it funny when people go "on my site". This isn't on your site. This is on my site.
You can check any of my Scum games to town games. I am very vocal as town. So if your only argument is meta related... I just stopped it.

Glad we agree to Lynch you though.

[Vedith]

Sounds great.

[Vedith]

I see this as a LAMIST move.
In his eyes he should be more confident in an Alch or comm Scum flip than his own.

I'm happy with this slot being lynched.

[Vedith]

Cool.

[Vedith]

Let's see how this flips first.

[Vedith]

It's nightless?

[Vedith]

This game is Nightless.

[Vedith]

Thats not a night. Stop trying to fake town slip you know exactly what is it.

[Vedith]

Mod mistake then.
Nightless is nightless.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Ald

No regrets. His attitude to be lynched over 2 others not confirmed to him was of shit play.

Ald is where we should lynch.

[Vedith]

GG, should have stuck to my read on Comm.

@Ald - Going forward, please don't give false meta reads, you asked for information about my games, I provided it and you clearly didn't check the games as you gave a response of how I act in town and Mafia games (which was wrong) while I only provided town games.

If you don't wish to investigate your questions of meta and previous games, really don't ask, as this is the pure reason I had you as scum.

[Vedith]

Sorry Ald - That was Chumley, not you!
@Chumley - Same comments.

@Ald - I only scum read you becasue of the comment about lynching Alch.
Alch was my strongest town read and I felt you missing Chumley off was a tactical reason to not vote there.
I really should have re read my reasons at that stage for you.
Comm and Alch were off the table that day, and I could have probably pushed for an rb lynch if I thought about it better.

[Vedith]

Thanks for letting me replace in, Dray. \o/

[Vedith]

All I'll say, next time leave BTD alive encase I replace in!

I currently have a good record with him and I don't want to change that.

[Vedith]

Reading the Mafia PT makes Comm look more of an arsehole than he does when he's town.
A gloating Scum is always a no no in my books.

I wouldn't be sad if Comm left the site.

Gratz on the win rb, I felt you were town and deserved the win from my perspective at least.

[Vedith]

Vedith got a lucky guess, but he's sooo anti-town that he'll make sure town loses once again.

I even now have ALDU bagged for helping me lynch Alch. Aldu, the guy who SR'd me!

LOL I feel bad for them really.

Minus the part about me as that's more frustration than gloating. You're just a smug arogant arsehole with comments like the bold.
You're the kid that celebrates a football goal when it's 20-0. And this is why I request you leave the site, because town you is no better. Up to you to accept but you're at least 1 of my top 3 disliked players on site (including people not here any more).

You do you, though.

[Vedith]

Feel free to take it personal, but I leave personal feelings at the door. I back out of conversations that are evident they've gone in the deep-end of toxic because of that. It's just a game and I'm celebrating a small victory in mafia chat. You can't tell me you're not happy when you're scum and get someone who SR's you to 180 their read almost overnight. But if you want to be offended by that, go ahead.

You can read any of my Scum games plus 99% of the players on-site.
It's rare when people act like you, because you know, sportsmanship. But sure, you do you.

[Vedith]

with CK powergaming and softbussing me it was better to just be less active i think. i called him obvtown and just put support behind him to keep him away from lynch territory

i feel like i didn't do much other than make sure i was giving enough content to survive and to push idea of 1 scum on/1 off since if i did end up flipping i think it would have made ppl think my partner was in Vedith/Aldu anyway, rather than CK/alch/chum (whoever was not lynched on day2)

i dno, whenever i playbas either scum or town i feel like SOMEONE on town is way too hasty with their vote and doesn't let lylo progress properly. scum shouldnt even have the opportunity to quickhammer like that until everything to be discussed at lylo has been discussed

it's at least the 4th time i've seen a lylo rush end up in town loss.

just my $0.02.

Yeah quick voting I dropped the ball there.
But hey, live and let learn.