Micro 726: A Mafiascum Noire (Endgame)

[Aelita]

I predict that Nebby will post in all caps! What a mystery!

Lel

[Aelita]

I also predict that taiho is not a Gummy Bear, which is a blasphemy, so he must be purged

VOTE: taiho

Kill it with fire.

[Aelita]

I predict that Vedith will vote Torque despite thinking he is town, though I don't understand why ;w;

[Aelita]

I predict that TB will post an image. How amusing.

[Aelita]

I predict that a votecount will be on this page. Also, it's not memeing.

[Aelita]

I predict that two players will have IC-esque roles, and also that my ability is the most interesting of all abilitys.

[Aelita]

@Nebby and @taiho I find it weird that you declared you want to know flavors but aren't paying attention to my posts at all.

[Aelita]

@Nebby and @taiho I find it weird that you declared you want to know flavors but aren't paying attention to my posts at all.

I pay enough attention to all posts...imo
You mean the prediction stuff right?

yes.

[Aelita]

Fake.

Oh, by the way you will call bullshit my role as well.

For I, Sylvie, have the ability to write a player's name in my book and find out their alignment 48 hours after actioning.

[Aelita]

Whose name do you want me to write?

[Aelita]

Yeah, that was a lie. As if I'd have that ability, and even if I did have it, I'd probably waste it.

Although Vedith's reaction is townie. I doubt scum would be eager to be investigated. I know that I, as scum, wouldn't be.

[Aelita]

Spider dance, spider dance, for those in a trance

[Aelita]

TB how is the voyeur justified via flavour?
-Ali

How is gladiator justified by flavor? I'm fairly sure most roles here have little to do with flavor

Mine does match the flavor.

[Aelita]

Hello.

[Aelita]

VOTE: TB

[Aelita]

I predict that Nebby hydra will die tonight.

[Aelita]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Aelita]

I predict that taiho would lose vote due to an ability.

[Aelita]

Wait a minute. This is strange. Very strange.

[Aelita]

OMG IT'S A TORQUE.

This game better get more spicy than the middle ages. So cold and dark.

I predict that it will. Remember the dog that is actually a dragon? Yeah, this is a repeat.

[Aelita]

Anyone else around.....?

[Aelita]

So am I. Did you just wake up or are you just going to bed?

[Aelita]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Why Vax?

Because I believe he is scum, and also because I need you to see something.

[Aelita]

@Torque Yes, because I agree with Titus that it could net his bud towncred. I and my bud literally used the same tactic in RC's previous Upick

[Aelita]

Votecount 2.18:

Vedith (0):
Vaxkiller (0):
taiho (0):
Titus (0):
Aelita (0):
Layla (0):
Torque (0):

Not Voting: Vedith, Vaxkiller, Titus, Layla, Torque, Aelita,

taiho

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-07-31 23:00:00).

Why is taiho blue

@Aelita It's a viable tactic for sure, I've (verbally) gladiated my bud before and won off of that. But I feel like ThinkBig was just demotivated and apathetic. He'd put up a better act if he's gladiating his bud, I think.

Don't you already know, fidget spinner?

[Aelita]

Uh aelita did taiho tell you about her two options

Yes.

[Aelita]

Well, not exactly taiho, but rather the mod.

[Aelita]

@Vaxkiller. No, I didn't, but.....

Oh, huh. Best wishes to the marriage, you two ^.^

...he did.

[Aelita]

And as a result, taiho and I became Futch and Bright.

[Aelita]

Don't try to decipher that last one, only Titus can.

[Aelita]

Not yet. I want to talk to Titus first.

This is me

[Aelita]

I'm terrible as seeing or leaving crumbs, I have to have people spell it out for me.

I did something which resulted in taiho's vote being gone. Let's not dig more details.

The truth will become apparent as soon as mod posts the next VC, so why hide it?

[Aelita]

Oh.

[Aelita]

Are you town reading titus? Because I'm not seeing anything from them to give them a strong town read status.

Then you shouldn't be townreading me either.

[Aelita]

Why?

[Aelita]

Well, I never acted last night, so.....

[Aelita]

Well, I never acted last night, so.....

So nothing was redirected, also we had someone die other than taiho, so your town.

Now gimmie my town cred. I accept cash or votes. <- Last part is joke.

Well, that depends on whether you redirect me the next night or not.

[Aelita]

Obviously, Aelita should say hugs and writing.

Hugs and writing?

I don't have either, but I do have these

Spoiler:

[Aelita]

Obviously, Aelita should say hugs and writing.

Hugs and writing?

I don't have either, but I do have these

Spoiler:

Closest safe anaolgy I think.

I don't see how they translate to 'hugs and writing', but okay. That first image, that's my flavor.

[Aelita]

Yes, peepz. I invoke the power of Futch the Dragon Knight, given to me by awesome Torque. Mwahahaha!

[Aelita]

No. That vote was to show this effect off.

UNVOTE:

So, I got this power for the rest of this day. Anyone I should legitimately use it on?

[Aelita]

I think Torque lol

Bad.....biting the hand that feeds you is bad....

[Aelita]

Well, I didn't want to do this, but some things must be done.

VOTE: Torque

This should shake the game up at the very least.

[Aelita]

Sure.

[Aelita]

Has she extensively defended anyone else? If yes, she is def scum, if no, she might or might not be scum. That's what I know for sure.

[Aelita]

It can't always be that simple.

It is, most of the time, when it comes to her.

[Aelita]

It can't always be that simple.

It is, most of the time, when it comes to her.

I defended people in Spring Fever. I was wrong though.

Did you have to bring that up?

[Aelita]

It can't always be that simple.

It is, most of the time, when it comes to her.

I defended people in Spring Fever. I was wrong though.

Did you have to bring that up?

#honestybestpolicy

Okay then, you win.

Spoiler: For Titus

That was my biggest failure recently.

[Aelita]

I don't think there are any reads I am confident in enough to share them.

[Aelita]

Town.

[Aelita]

More like, because of a result of what happened last night.

Or, in other words, because of what they said in the PT.

[Aelita]

Eyeball was buddying me hardcore. Taiho isn't. That's the difference.

[Aelita]

Well, how interesting, because I am an invest. as well.

[Aelita]

Thought it might not clash, per se, but we'll see.

[Aelita]

Gah, now I am unsure. Vedith, you are my confirmed town, who do you think is scum?

[Aelita]

Or, if you think both are, which one do you think is a bigger threat right now?

[Aelita]

That's true, but by my reaction test earlier, she is conftown as well. No scum would willingly jump to be investigated like that, unless we're scum together (a thing you yourself confirmed false), he is specifically looking to deceive me (which is sincerely doubt) or he is a Godfather.

[Aelita]

Wait a sec, the whole 'how you know I'm town', is it because you watched taiho or tracked someone? I forgot.

[Aelita]

That easily could be a scum role. What guarantees you won't redirect me again?

VOTE: Vaxkiller

L-1

[Aelita]

A little bird taught me that's not the answer town would give. Said little bird told me that town would respond to danger of being dead by pouring everything they can share in order to help other town.

[Aelita]

But don't worry, if you flip town, Vedith's vote and my vote should be enough to bury her as well.

[Aelita]

I was barely in the game too up till this point. Am I scum because of that?

[Aelita]

Well, it's either you or her imo.

Inb4 it isn't and I feel like an idiot once again....

[Aelita]

Worst case scenario, I use my ability on her. If there are indeed two scum, my role could easily guilty or clear her.

[Aelita]

If I die, remember that the simplest solution is the right one, and lynch the hell out of her.

[Aelita]

All right then. I wanted to grill you and your responses proved satisfactory for now.

UNVOTE:

[Aelita]

I said all that needs to be said and I still stand by it.

[Aelita]

Could you talk to me about taiho? Is he really town like I assume? Cos if he is, I have a nasty plan in place.

[Aelita]

Their vote on me when prodded from TB, then unvote when the realized I was at L-1 made me a little leary of thier alignment.

Why did torque target them again?

As far as I know, it was essentially for this reason.

[Aelita]

Sorry, my internet connection died on me.

Why were you hoping that no one would ask?

[Aelita]

Because when I remembered your role I realized it might look like I was trying to control it (ie make sure I wasnt being investigated)

And that's the biggest reason why I think you're scum

[Aelita]

Okay.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Aelita]

Well, this game became slow, so I give you one last chance.

Intent to Hammer

Either you start talkin' or I hammer.

[Aelita]

Well, this game became slow, so I give you one last chance.

Intent to Hammer

Either you start talkin' or I hammer.

You want me to talk?

That was for everyone else.

You want to dayvig me?

[Aelita]

Maybe because you made that statement right after you called me out?

[Aelita]

Well, this game became slow, so I give you one last chance.

Intent to Hammer

Either you start talkin' or I hammer.

You want me to talk?

^This one was back to back with your dayvig post.

[Aelita]

No, I was mostly curious.

[Aelita]

I also wanna know why do you want her to claim?

[Aelita]

She is at L-2 and I have a double vote, and I am not that opposed to lynching her.

[Aelita]

And I trust Vedith that you are town. Anyone opposed to the lynch now, speak up.

[Aelita]

Okay, I take full responsibility for this.

VOTE: Titus

[Aelita]

I am a delayed tracker. Vaxkiller visited me on night 1.

[Aelita]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Aelita]

taiho and me neighborhood is still active. taiho is a doc and he confirmed he protected me. Therefore, no deaths probably means that scum targeted me. And the only one who has any motives to do that is Vaxkiller. So let's Carpe Diem the hell out of 'im.

[Aelita]

I am a delayed tracker, that's how. I don't get to act Night 1, but on Night 2, I can rewind and track anyone, and get who they visited on night 1. That's why night 1 roleblock didn't stop me, because I acted on night 2.

[Aelita]

No, it doesn't. He visited me on Night 1, not Night 2. Do you have any other possible candidate who could have targeted me with a kill on Night 2?

[Aelita]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're white-knighting him, but thanks to taiho's N2 action, he is confirmed scum.

@taiho get in here and tell them what you told me.

[Aelita]

I won't say a thing till taiho says his stuff.

[Aelita]

If Layla was scum, she would target you, which she didn't, something I know from taiho's actions. Why are you ignoring that bit?

[Aelita]

And why are you grilling me again? By your own admission, both of us two are clear, so why u interrogating me as if I am scum?

[Aelita]

You are doubting both me and taiho, though, all because you are confbiased.

[Aelita]

So then tell me, who else might have targeted me? Common sense dictates that scum usually target the person who scumreads them the most. If Layla is scum, that would be you. If Vaxkiller was scum, that would be me.

Consider also that he wanted Titus lynched before him, which looked to me like someone desperate to postpone their own lynch, and it still does.

Now you disregard common sense.

Name one person who would have targeted me other than him. We lynch that person. And when they flip town, you'll learn I was right, but by then it would be too late.

[Aelita]

Are you ready to bet the game on your belief that Layla is scum?

[Aelita]

Scum do not always act how you expect them to.
Saying X wasn't killed so Y is cleared is just bad play and you know it.

I'll refute that with something one of the players I respect says frequently: the simplest solution is the right one most of the time.

[Aelita]

Are you ready to bet the game on your belief that Layla is scum?

I'll bet that Vax is town.
He's proven night 1 and TB dies not force a Scum lynch day 1.

I'll refute that one as well. In Spring Fever, I forced three scum lynches, as scum. Sure, it didn't pay off in the end, but all four of us agreed with that course of action.

[Aelita]

This is a 9p game.
TB doesn't believe Scum can win a 9p game with a Scum lynch day 1.
Why would he game throw? He doesn't...

Didn't you just say scum don't always act the way you'd expect them to?

[Aelita]

VOTE: Vedith

I have a good feeling that my vote should be here.

p-edit: Considering you mislynched my main once and didn't reevaluate one bit, I don't really trust your judgment here, even if you are town, which you are not.

[Aelita]

No, not really. I just want to prevent you from mislynching again.

[Aelita]

I'm not even trying to Lynch you.
You're so bad it's unreal.

VOTE: Layla
Just get this game over with.

So you are okay with mislynching her? Cos there IS a possibility that you are doing exactly that, one you are not even willing to consider. Quit being selfish please.

[Aelita]

I will. I think taiho will agree with me.

If he doesn't, I will switch to her. Just remember to apologize to both me and her post-game if she flips town, cos that's the right thing to do if you end up being wrong.

[Aelita]

I don't mesh well with anyone who thinks they're an 'insufferable know-it-all', as Professor Snape would put it. Not in the game where reevaluating is required.

[Aelita]

I don't think I know it all.
But why shouldn't I push where I think scum is?

Because there is a chance you'd be wrong, and that's why you shouldn't push unless you are 100 % sure. This is coming from someone who pushed without being 100% sure and ended up with a game loss as a result.

[Aelita]

Because there is a chance you'd be wrong, and that's why you shouldn't push unless you are 100 % sure. This is coming from someone who pushed without being 100% sure and ended up with a game loss as a result.

So unless anyone drops a guilty we don't lynch? Encase we're wrong...?

I didn't say that. I said you need to listen to other people to and see their points as well. You refuse to consider my points as being valid. That's the problem.

[Aelita]

Uh, why you asking him? He is bound to lie if he is scum. :/

[Aelita]

And then you'll believe him unconditionally and without any reservations whatsoever.... *facepalms*

[Aelita]

Aelita did you get any message?

Yus.

[Aelita]

Layla is now off-limits. I doubt her action comes from scum.

[Aelita]

She has the same kind of ability as Torque, only it's a day ability.

[Aelita]

She has the same kind of ability as Torque, only it's a day ability.

Wait, like, motivator?

No, her ability also creates a PT. One that notifies me whether I was a kill target or not. I wasn't.

[Aelita]

She has the same kind of ability as Torque, only it's a day ability.

Have you seen it in action?

Yes.

[Aelita]

Probably.

[Aelita]

Geez cmon guys.

Aelita if you had to pick someone besides Vedith, who would you lynch?

Layla

Um, he asked me, not you.

@Vax probably you or Torq.

[Aelita]

Neighborhood + anyone she targets will know if they were targeted for NK or not.

[Aelita]

Neighborhood + anyone she targets will know if they were targeted for NK or not.

Aelita wasn't healed then, leaving the rb as the only reason why mafia didn't kill unless they just.. didn't.

lets go back to talking about the ninja culture in japan xd

I can make a hood between 2 people each night, one being turned into a fidget spinner and the other one in love with the fidget spinner
the fidget spinner chooses to either sacrifice their night action (not factional action) and make the human motivated; OR give their vote to the human during the following day.
I also refill the human's x-shot abilities.

I was healed. taiho said so. :O

[Aelita]

Neighborhood + anyone she targets will know if they were targeted for NK or not.

if you weren't targeted for nk how did taiho save you
nanithefuck

The notification I received when I was targeted by Layla implied that I wasn't targeted.

And true, taiho doesn't know if he saved me, but there was no deaths on N2, so the simplest explanation is that he did in fact, do so.

I dunno, it's conflicting, it's all so conflicting.

[Aelita]

: D well after googling my own role i think aelita was simply not targeted, since there were no death.

Or you protected me from death. Unless you are saying you aren't what I assumed you were?

[Aelita]

I'm not sure why im perseverating on this sooo much, but it really bothers me that you (Aelita) refuse to admit im town.

Considering that a scum befuddled me four times up till now, I refuse to trust anyone 100%.

[Aelita]

No, I am giving you 90% at best

Spoiler:

because of slaughter in Dor Areaba

[Aelita]

L-1.

[Aelita]

Well we have a claim from him, is there anything else we need?

Any last words Vedith?

Lynch Layla tomorrow.
I'm not wrong here.

That's what you said when you mislynched me and probably many others. It's evident you learned nothing from those mislynches, or you'd be a lot less certain.

[Aelita]

Well we have a claim from him, is there anything else we need?

Any last words Vedith?

Lynch Layla tomorrow.
I'm not wrong here.

That's what you said when you mislynched me and probably many others. It's evident you learned nothing from those mislynches, or you'd be a lot less certain.

Or at least give her a benefit of the doubt. Your certainty makes me think you know her alignment and are either bussing or trying to drive a mislynch on her. No one is certain to the point they refuse to consider all possibilities.

[Aelita]

Hell, even the players I admire are always willing to look from every angle. But you, you are not. Case in point: you only talked about Vaxkiller to determine your stance on him. You scumread Layla and you knew my stance, so I will let those slide, but you never consulted Torque or taiho either.

[Aelita]

Ha, that's rich. You gave me none when you mislynched me, nor did you give it to 40+ people you mislynched since then, so why should I give you any?

[Aelita]

Plus, it's not the mislynch itself that irks me, it's the fact you still think you are a scumhunting God who is never wrong.

'Oh, Layla will flip scum, I am not wrong on this'.

But what if you are? Will you apologize to her for mislynching her? Cos if not, you'd better be more humble in the future, especially if you are wrong, and you don't have the right to demand one from me

[Aelita]

Not really. Just because people are busy and unable to commit doesn't make them scum.

[Aelita]

If we lynch her simply for be unable to commit and she flips town, what then?

[Aelita]

I will not allow this tomfoolery to result in our loss again. Last major loss I had was because people refused to listen to conftown slot. To quote said slot 'Just trust me one last time'.

[Aelita]

Yes, but arguably Vedith is the scummier of the two. Lynch him first, and leash Layla/torque to protect us. Whoever survives will lynch her tomorrow if Vedith flips town. It's a sound plan.

[Aelita]

Oh, and the lack of night kill wasn't because of taiho after all, so why was there no kill?

[Aelita]

Also, do not redirect me. I am using my ability on Layla tonight.

[Aelita]

Previous night only.

And no, I don't. Nobody does. And even if by some miracle you are, learn to be more humble. Tell me: do you even have scumreads other than Layla or will you continue thinking she is scum and that your scumhunting is impeccable even if she flips town.

By the way, you still haven't apologized to me or the other people you have mislynched in the past. Do it, right now, so we can bury that hatchet for the health of this game.

[Aelita]

And no, I won't let up on you being scum, just like you didn't let up on me back then. No matter how much I repeated I was town, you still mislynched me. Now the tables have turned, so give me one good reason why should I believe you harping you are town? After all, you didn't.

[Aelita]

@Vaxkiller Well, since Vedith is blinded by pride, you tell me: in what universe is a player who tunners others and refuses to reconsider town?

[Aelita]

And of course I will be. Unlike you, I actually learn from my mistakes rather than using the same damn approach I did two years ago and flaunting my superiority like everyone else is beneath me rather than acknowledging that the fault is mine.

[Aelita]

And on the miniscule chance you are town, you are still a liability. People like me are treated as policy lynches, while the real toxic players and players who are actually a liability are given a free pass.

[Aelita]

There are six things you need to know

One, we suffered defeat and we failed the test
Simply because some players believe they were a cut above the rest

Two, when they are told they need to change their tactic
They throw their noses in the air and declare 'I don't make mistakes, I'm fantastic'

Three, in the end, people like me take the blame
Because the others are too arrogant to do the same

Four , players such as Vedith are a liability
They turn around so they can deny culpability

Five, I am tired of this behavior
They pretend to know it all, shouting 'I'm the savior'

Six, we can convince them they could be wrong,
If we don't let up, we'll be firm and strong

@Vedith So tell me the whole truth: Do you, as town, tunnel without any reconsideration? Cos if you do, you are a liability to town regardless of alignment, and if you don't, you are scum. Either way, you are harmful to town and need to go. End of story.

[Aelita]

No I don't. You know another difference between us is? I actually learn from my mistakes and grow from them. You on the other hand, outright claimed you don't, and thus have no room to grow, and will probably make the same mistakes each game. This alone makes me better than you, despite my flaws.

[Aelita]

@Vedith So tell me the whole truth: Do you, as town, tunnel without any reconsideration? Cos if you do, you are a liability to town regardless of alignment, and if you don't, you are scum. Either way, you are harmful to town and need to go. End of story.

I tunnel every game.
I also give results.

Results? Like that time you mislynched me? Wow, such a nice result.....

[Aelita]

I bet you piled mislynches many more times than you actually caught scum.

[Aelita]

@Vaxkiller See? He'd sacrifice town so he could keep his pride and have us all kiss his feet.

[Aelita]

Taiho, be my second, get rid of him.

[Aelita]

Who you lynching when I'm town?
Not Layla I bet because you hate that I'm right

Give me a good reason why you are town and a good reason why Layla is scum other than 'Because I said so and I need ego stroking'.

Also, we'll see who is right once Layla flips town. I am almost willing to go there just to bring you down a notch for being wrong afterwards.

[Aelita]

@Vaxkiller Him or me. If he stays, I will fly into rage and be useless.

[Aelita]

Hammer hammer hammer

[Aelita]

and be useless.

This part made me laugh

I admit it freely rather than be a self-absorbed, prideful and arrogant person. If being always right satisfies you more than being a team player, go right ahead. I can't change your mindset apparently, so I am done wasting words on you. I'll just wait.

P.S: Even if you are town, I won't be quiet like you seem to think. Instead I will celebrate getting rid of obvious liability.

[Aelita]

Wow, now you are spouting useless crap just to keep your pride intact......

[Aelita]

And people think I am bad......

lols

p-edit: 'I am Vedith, I am always right. If I am somehow wrong, refer to the first sentence. Even if town dies for it, I will insist I was right even after they flip town and pull the same old same old each game without even bothering to learn from my mistakes.'

[Aelita]

Fine, two can play that game.

I'm Padparadscha, I am always right. \o/

[Aelita]

Layla tomorrow, then chant my name post game \o/

No, I will call you a liability?

[Aelita]

VOTE: Layla

I will not allow you to continue being arrogant, not now, nor ever, even if it means doing this.

[Aelita]

VOTE: Layla

I will not allow you to continue being arrogant, not now, nor ever, even if it means doing this.

When this flips scum, you refer to me as scum hunting god forever! \o/

And what do I refer to you if she flips town?

[Aelita]

And what do I refer to you if she flips town?

Here's the deal. I'm that sure that she is scum. I'll give her and you a formal apology.

Yeah, no. The last person who said those same words killed me overnight just so they didn't have to follow through on that.

I have no doubt you'd do the same.

Nice try, but you go today

VOTE: Vedith

[Aelita]

That's Scum hunter god, to you. \o/

Nope.

I will lynch her if you flip town, but I will make you shut up first.

[Aelita]

Welp, that could've gone better. At least I caught him in the end......

Also, I knew scum killed me N2.

[Aelita]

Yay RC! \o/

GG town, thanks for the game all. You lot did pretty good and me and TB are trash (more TB than me <3)
Aelita, don't take to heart what I was saying, I didn't mean any of it.


Thanks for modding RC! \o/

Yeah, that was part of the reason I wanted you dead from the moment you began insisting that Layla is scum. No town would be that closed-minded.

[Aelita]

Also, your insistence that Vax was town. There was no reasonable doubt, so it was like you already knew he was town.

[Aelita]

Also, your insistence that Vax was town. There was no reasonable doubt, so it was like you already knew he was town.

No, I just think that Vax is an obvious town looking player.
Even if I was town I would have town read him. After TB's flip, he might as well have been an IC.

*airhorns blowing* You won't talk me out of celebrating. I told you I wouldn't be quiet post-game and that holds doubly true now.

[Aelita]

Yay Yume and I were town together that like never happens nowadays.

I love you.

[Aelita]

This game has been immortalized as my best moment in my signature. K, bye.

[Aelita]

Also, Vedith, why did you try to kill me? It's clear you don't think highly of me, not even now, so I am curious?

[Aelita]

Victory song

[Aelita]

Also, RC, please open scum PT and Dead thread?

[Aelita]

Also, I love Paddy <3

So cute, so good.

[Aelita]

939 and 941 are mine, by the way.

[Aelita]

And yeah, I was slightly angry, because too many people continue thinking they are right no matter what and refuse to learn from their mistakes. Instead they believe their wrong reads are right time after time.

[Aelita]

But you know what? Go tunnel people further, see if I care. After 10000000 mislynches, you'll see how badly it works for you and be forced to change the way you read people anyway.

[Aelita]

Then tell me: did you reevaluate at any point before you mislynched me?

As for me mislynching Titus, I only did that because the game was dying. Was the game dying when you mislynched me back then or was it only done because your ego?

[Aelita]

And no, I don't, but I'm considering starting. It'd help prevent my brain from exploding if nothing else.

[Aelita]

I am not talking about this game. In this game your behavior is understandable, but in that game it wasn't. Help me understand why were you so certain I was scum in that game?

[Aelita]

I am sorry. Pls don't report me.