Micro 736: Mafia in Blitztown (Game Over)

[osuka]

I just joined therefore am conftown

Why the fuck is cloud still alive
VOTE: cloud

[osuka]

Also cheers mjollnir! I know you're there lurking

[osuka]

Nice

So you're just a pro grade gamethrower

Pedit: UNVOTE:

[osuka]

Like relatively scummy? If I'm in the game d2, you're not making it to d3 because you're the lynch in every universe but the one in which you claimed yesterday

Pedit: I'm getting on a plane in 20 minutes so I'll be gone for a couple hours
I'll read them more later

[osuka]

I mean I'm sorry my slot sucked before I joined. Next time I'll try to do better in that regard

I'm with you cloud but as I said give me a couple hours. I only skimmed through the whole game since I thought you were a good lynch and it was late yesterday, though your claim changes things. I'll read through everything and get back to you v soon

[osuka]

Just landed
Claim shitizen because even though I don't know how many town prs there are, maybe someone does

[osuka]

Ebwop I just realized this isn't an open setup and I'm differently abled

Screen what the fuck are you talking about? Scum hardclaiming cop and innoing his partner in mylo? That's absurd

[osuka]

That's supposed to mean that your theory is absurd, you don't have to read into it. What I'm saying is you'd have to be a special kind of stupid to pull that move

[osuka]

Similarly, you'd have to be a similarly special kind of stupid to think it's at all reasonable for scum to do. It's mediocre at best, and that's in a scenario where there is no guessing the setup at all

Pedit: extremely confident and cocky usually translates to that yes

[osuka]

You've mistaken yourself

Just because I'm trying to get a point across, it doesn't mean that I'm trying to convince anyone. Maybe I just want to show that your premise disagrees with common sense

[osuka]

sorry to disappoint again

next time a cop checks me I'll make sure to act scummier

[osuka]

I just joined therefore am conftown

Why the fuck is cloud still alive
VOTE: cloud

What the heck even is this?

How are you conftown?

i'm conftown because the cop checked me, asshat

[osuka]

therefore it is an obvious shitpost, don't be silly

can we stop asking obvious things

[osuka]

sure that's what it was

hardclaim goon

[osuka]

and then immediately pushes on partner, who hardclaims even night cop and an inno on the first guy

on fucking mylo

[osuka]

So I'm like super sleep deprived and I decided to check in on the phone before I went to sleep. This post may come across to some of you as weird, stupid, or maybe even entirely nonsensical

But with only vts dead on the town side (and 3 town alive), how on the planet can you believe a neighbor claim? What the fuck kinda setup has a single neighbor and an even night cop?

Is a neighbor even still a neighbor, by the definition of the word, if there exist no other neighbors?

pedit: please unvote screen
I wanna look at this tomorrow because he might just be a vi with a single digit iq

[osuka]

So vedith claimed neighbor with lrcher right

[osuka]

That's fucking sketchy

I really liked ircher for scum but now it's either you/screen or ircher/vedith

If you're scum and you win, it'll be because of that claim

[osuka]

Like you two are either a team or town. In an universe in which only one of you is svum, the other town ganethrew hard, nothing makes sense anymore and I wanna stop living

[osuka]

Cloud, in what planet does a town fake claim neighbor to support another neighbor fakeclaim

[osuka]

Read 452

The neighbor claim is either legit (in which case you're the two scum) or not (in which case they are)

Otherwise refer to the last page where I talk about the alternate universe in which people game throw and I wanna die

[osuka]

Okay let me rephrase the question

In what planet does a town fakeclaim to support another fakeclaim short of a roleswap

[osuka]

that is very true and actually is a great point

Who was the original neighbor maker thing again?

[osuka]

Yes but not the other way around since mafia cops exist here

[osuka]

Ircher is my strongest scumread rn by a mile

I'll sleep on the newfound insights since the game has a healthy two days on the deadline still, so we can talk more when I've gotten some rest

Pedit: I'm not sure about normalcy of mafia cops either but I'll check tomorrow and I'll let you know

[osuka]

I think they're normal though

Pedit: yeah since I realized the neighbors weren't necessarily town (and so it wasn't a fakeclaim), he went back to the bottom of the list

If I had to bet right now I'd say screen/ircher

[osuka]

I think a setup with 7 vt, 1 neighbor on each side and then a cop and a goon is very very reasonable. I'd say that's what we're looking at

Pedit: Two mafia aligned neighbors are fucking redundant yes
Why would anyone put that in a setup

[osuka]

Osuka if they are both neighbor and we assume that there isnt 2 town neihbor, then screen is conf mefia

Wait that's true

How would there be 2 town neighbors here though? That would make you scum

[osuka]

Having two town neighbors still makes them neighbors, not masons

We wouldn't be having this convo if they were masons

[osuka]

Guys I think the whole mafia cop shit might not make any sense now that I think about it

I'm having trouble thinking straight so I'll actually get off and get back tomorrow with unprecedented levels of activity

Pedit neighbors aren't fucking masons get your roles straight

[osuka]

the masons thingy was retarded at best considering he fucking voted them instantly today. Masons by deffinition shares alignement and are town aligned or its not a normal game, thats the basic

I don't understand why we're talking about masons

There are no masons in this setup

[osuka]

let me hear from them who was the original neighbor maker and we'll go from there

[osuka]

Yeah but I'm having a hard time reading text right now, let alone people

I'll wait for them to give me more popcorn and go to sleep but until then I'll reread the last few pages and put my thoughts out there


Pedit yes that cross makes sense but I'm at drunk levels of sleep deprivation
It may be completely silly tomorrow

[osuka]

Screen, that's not necessarily true

Maybe he wanted two towns but also wanted us to have this fun talk

[osuka]

Hardclaiming cop because of the subs vote is ballsy as fuck

And if you're scum you're not afraid of getting quickhammered, so there's no fear factor there to help him if he's maf. Even ballsier

[osuka]

I'm off too

[osuka]

so here's how the game looks to me

conftown: osuka
almost conftown: cloud


townlean: vedith
--- null ---

scumlean/scumread: ircher

almost confscum: screen


except in an universe where cloud is mafia and we've all been blinded by the sheer size of his balls

[osuka]

what is obvious to me (now that i've slept) is that there are two possible scenarios, one much more likely than the other

in either case, there cannot be two mafia neighbors as that would be truly differently abled

cloud is town

this is likely

screen is confscum
there is one scum in {vedith, ircher}

there's the off chance of a neighbor claim by two scumpartners in order to completely clear them from suspicion unless one of them is lynched. In this scenario, ircher has us all had (I'm also happy to lose to this as it's a play to be proud of - and if this is actually the case, then we are fucked, too)

cloud is scum

this is unlikely

we are fucked

there's the (very remote) possibility of {cloud, screen} scum
in which case {vedith, ircher} are both town

there's the (less remote) possibility of {cloud, 1{vedith, ircher}}
in which case screen obviously sees right through his play as cloud being town makes him confscum.
if screen is town (and obviously he knows it), then he also knows cloud is scum; i don't see him pushing as hard as i'd like to, and that's the second main reason for me to like the first universe as much as i do over this one

other notes:
• I like the first universe better for the way I read the two of them
• I also like it better for setup guessing reasons (two differently aligned neighbors sounds like it'd be more likely here)
• In {vedith, ircher}, i like ircher better for scum than vedith. That is, of course, assuming no fakeclaim shenanigans as pointed out in towncloud universe

[osuka]

im going through isos now

since two people are about to die in the next 12-18 hours, can everyone make cases on each other please

[osuka]

i'm thinking vedith is town and ircher is scum. thoughts?

[osuka]

actually here's what's going through my mind

VOTE: ircher

[osuka]

i think i have this figured out, kinda

[osuka]

you know what rhymes with kangaroo

[osuka]

Spoiler: kangaroo

hammeroo

[osuka]

gg

[osuka]

yes he was

[osuka]

i actually 70-30 thought you were gonna flip mafia neighbor when i told them to hammer you

It was a ballsy call but you lost the game when i realized a fake neighbor call was possible