Micro 738: Fountain of Tired Souls [Night 4]

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Post Post #1400  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:50 am

Me too, but if he's maf he's gonna check the nk or something, or if he's insane mafia cop he's gonna return a "guilty" on a townie then it becomes an argument of who to lynch first, and if he's town cop and returns a guilty we end up with the exact same argument.
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Post Post #1401  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:55 am

VOTE COUNT 2 . 47
    Garrybote -- 4 ( MathBlade, Purple Nurple, JaeReed, Impoetic ) L- 1
    MathBlade -- 2 ( Nahdia, Garrybote ) L- 2







    Not Voting - 2 ( Lil Uzi Vert, osuka )

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch
#################### | [040%]
FOS COUNT 2 . 47
    Lil Uzi Vert -- 3 ( Purple Nurple, MathBlade, JaeReed )
    MathBlade ----- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Impoetic, JaeReed )
    Garrybote ----- 2 ( Purple Nurple, JaeReed )
    osuka --------- 2 ( Purple Nurple, JaeReed )
    JaeReed ------- 1 ( MathBlade )
    Purple Nurple - 1 ( JaeReed )
    Impoetic ------ 1 ( JaeReed )


    Not FoS'ing --- 5 ( Garrybote, Nahdia, Lil Uzi Vert, JaeReed, osuka )

Days Remaining Without Lynching
3
Last edited by Alisae on Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:49 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Post Post #1402  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:13 am

If he checks the NK, he gets lynched. Absolutely, 100%. And other than that, we have a confirmed mafia in two people, and depending on who his guilty is we could come to a decision.

I actually just saw a post by Mastina that sounds potentially relevant here. I mean, I don't know if they would have any need to do that now and I don't know if they'd change their play around (or at least put more care into obscuring that aspect) when they post something publicly about how to play as scum. I also really feel like I have no way of knowing how likely things are. It did seem incredibly close to what mastina is doing now if purple nurple is scum, though.
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halp ;_;

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Post Post #1403  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:24 am

What mastina is theorizing is that she stopped the scumkill by roleblocking her strongest scum read. That's not playing up the possibilities. It's perfectly reasonable to think that.
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"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia

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Post Post #1404  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:28 am

What MATH AND GERRY AND LUV are doing with the "maybe the scum kill can only happen if x, y, z happen" is playing up possibilities. Sometimes town does that too though, and clearly they're not all mafia. There's likely a suckered townie or two in that. Depending on who the maf is changes things. Like math as town would do that so maf could be one or both of gerry/luv for feeding into that. Or math could be maf and the other two are just sick of being tunneled. Or they could all be town and right and mastina is actually using occams to her advantage as scum.
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia

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Post Post #1405  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:39 am

Yeah no I disagree with all the scum kill stuff. I also disagree with the 'oh, is the mod lying about jill being in the game?' thing.

And I guess. I don't really know how probable it is that loud cop is a scum role, or how likely it is that scum NKs n1 for one reason or another. That's been one of my problems this game. I guess the NK is really convenient no matter which it is, though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Mission: Play mafia in an intelligent way so as to enjoy oneself and influence game. Result: Overwhelming failure. Conclusion: Continued attempts impractical. Concept of game alluring, but incompatible with personal OS. Without significant changes in gameplay algorithm currently believed to be unattainable, future outcomes expected to remain constant.
halp ;_;

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Post Post #1406  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:02 am

you guys are awful

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Post Post #1407  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:04 am

I AM LITERALLY. GOING TO BE CLEAR TOMORROW OR CLEAR SOMEONE ELSE. IDC. I DONT GET HOW WAITING 1 DAY IS GONNA CHANGE SOMETHING. IF IM MAF I DONT HAVE A "WIN THE GAME IF YOU LIVE 1 NIGHT" ROLE. LITERALLY 1 NIGHT LOL.

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Post Post #1408  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:04 am

i knew Impoetic/Jaereed/purple would all vote together. it's pitiful

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Post Post #1409  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:13 am

well, i'm sheeping the only read i'm confident in right now. the problem with waiting 1 night, as i see it, is that we have to go through this all over again.
Mission: Play mafia in an intelligent way so as to enjoy oneself and influence game. Result: Overwhelming failure. Conclusion: Continued attempts impractical. Concept of game alluring, but incompatible with personal OS. Without significant changes in gameplay algorithm currently believed to be unattainable, future outcomes expected to remain constant.
halp ;_;

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Post Post #1410  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:17 am

impoetic, what is the purpose of me doing this as maf. when im literally confirmed public. i dont understand. even if i was mafia, i would be giving town a clear by checking someone else. if you think im some hybrid godfather public cop, i will just check someone else

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Post Post #1411  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:18 am

you dont have to go through it tomorrow. you keep me alive as i can clear people

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Post Post #1412  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:19 am

its literally, preschool logic.

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Post Post #1413  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:26 am

nah. we lynch you.
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Post Post #1414  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:58 am

No time to read all this. Will try after work.
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Post Post #1415  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:38 pm

idk who to check tonight anymore

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Post Post #1416  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:17 pm

well, not yourself. Check someone you think you'll get a useful result on if you live, obviously. Ideally, check someone you think is scum. That way if you die later, we'll still have your results.

It is bastard. I understand what you're saying, but I also have enough doubts that I'm going to trust the person I know is town who has more experience with games like this than I do. There *was* a no-kill when you were roleblocked, and no one has come forth to CC that, which would normally be pretty scummy.
Mission: Play mafia in an intelligent way so as to enjoy oneself and influence game. Result: Overwhelming failure. Conclusion: Continued attempts impractical. Concept of game alluring, but incompatible with personal OS. Without significant changes in gameplay algorithm currently believed to be unattainable, future outcomes expected to remain constant.
halp ;_;

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Post Post #1417  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:53 pm

its obvious based on mechanics that there is something different about the nightkill. its obviously bastard as you say, so why would you assume the night kill would be the normal thing?

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Post Post #1418  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:32 pm

summary of the last 10 pages as i understand them

math sounds weird, gives me scummy vibes.
jae is loud (tilted) redirector
i have thoughts on purple that, for now, i'll save. I wanna skim their iso again.


VOTE: mathblade
since between him and gerry, i'd rather lynch whoever is not cop
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Post Post #1419  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:56 pm

osuka is alive!

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Post Post #1420  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:21 pm

Osuka I am disappointed :(

You're used to IC me not me me.

*frowns*

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Post Post #1421  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:17 pm

Osuka coming in clutch

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Post Post #1422  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:18 pm

LUV what are your thoughts

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Post Post #1423  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:22 pm

I don't wanna vote either of you :(

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Post Post #1424  (ISO)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:38 pm

But you also said you don't wanna NL right

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