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Post Post #175  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:15 am

Eli, I'm curious to know why you wanted to make out you were a newer player at the start of the game (before your alt slip)?

Knowing now you are in fact the most experienced among us causes me to doubt my D1 townread on you, which was in part due to how you were playing in relation your experience.

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Post Post #176  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:20 am

Looking at Vax's posts seems pretty useless as he regarded both Eli and Tywin very similarly in regards to who he thought was scum.

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Post Post #177  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:23 am

I meant Luca.
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Post Post #178  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:29 am

In post 172, Elliberetta wrote:
He could have easily shot either me or Elli and I don't think he shot Luca because it was a strong town read of his. So honestly I am leaning towards Elli here.


Wait wait hold on.
From your pov if you were town it should be:

If he shot Elli, Elli's town.
If he shot me (Tywin) it means nothing for Elli or Luca's alignments.
If he shot Luca, Lucas' town.

Right?

This seems really sketchy.
Because if you're scum you know he shot me or Luca.
And that he thought Luca was town so he likely shot me.
Like it seems like you may have considered you getting shot less becauause you knew it didn't happen?

And if you were town your scumlean should be probabilisticly towards Luca using shot logic.

On the other hand I can see that Luca's been online.
What do you think.


The more I look at this post the more it jumps out at me.

First Eli is jumping on Tywin's mistake (which I guess is far enough, although she's a bit severe) but then at the end draws attention back to me with 'but Luca's been online, what do you think'?

It's like she want to pressure Tywin but doesn't want to risk turning it into a 1v1 battle, so throws a bit of shade over me at the end (for being online of all things). The tone of her post goes from hostile to suddenly co-operative.

It just feels a bit weird.

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Post Post #179  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:32 am

In post 175, Luca Blight wrote:Eli, I'm curious to know why you wanted to make out you were a newer player at the start of the game (before your alt slip)?

Knowing now you are in fact the most experienced among us causes me to doubt my D1 townread on you, which was in part due to how you were playing in relation your experience.


thought it would be funny because noone recognized me. ;P
didn't exactly make it hard with the avvy and name.

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Post Post #180  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:32 am

i was asking you what you thought not tywin silly

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Post Post #181  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:36 am

I need to get back to work but I had stuff I wanted from you in the second half of my first post of the day.

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Post Post #182  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:39 am

Your 'on the other hand' made it seem like you were changing the limelight onto me.

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Post Post #183  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:44 am

In post 181, Elliberetta wrote:I need to get back to work but I had stuff I wanted from you in the second half of my first post of the day.


Was I happy for Vax to die when I put him at L-1?

Pretty much - I was fairly convinced I'd caught scum, but it just seemed too easy, and too many times in the past I've been 100% convinced someone was scum, only for them to then flip town.

I wanted to consider it rationally before committing to my vote.

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Post Post #184  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Didn't mean to change limelight? Like the majority of that post is directed at tywin and then I noticed you were hovering around and wanted to get your input too and I'm paranoid and unsure between you two and the word choice reflected that.

You can call it a freudian slip if you want.

and "online of all things"? If you were online and purposefully just not posting and just chilling thats a major major scumtell at this point. (what holiday is it for you btw >.>) I accept its probably nothing after checking your activity other places though.

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Post Post #185  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:35 pm

In post 183, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 181, Elliberetta wrote:I need to get back to work but I had stuff I wanted from you in the second half of my first post of the day.


Was I happy for Vax to die when I put him at L-1?

Pretty much - I was fairly convinced I'd caught scum, but it just seemed too easy, and too many times in the past I've been 100% convinced someone was scum, only for them to then flip town.

I wanted to consider it rationally before committing to my vote.


See this is where my only problem with you this whole game lies.
I feel like town would be motivated to chill out and to find the second scum.

You did eventually with HS but it seemed to me like your instinct was just wanting to be sure on Vax and that would suffice to go for a lynch.

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Post Post #186  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:37 pm

It's like she want to pressure Tywin but doesn't want to risk turning it into a 1v1 battle, so throws a bit of shade over me at the end (for being online of all things). The tone of her post goes from hostile to suddenly co-operative.


Also r.e. this. Isn't what you just described here more likely to come from town than scum anyways? Have you played in lylo situations before?
General paranoia towards both sides and the constant sway between wanting to settle and not settle and cooperate and not cooperate is a natural mindset in high stakes situations like this. And its certainly what i'm feeling now.

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Post Post #187  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 185, Elliberetta wrote:
In post 183, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 181, Elliberetta wrote:I need to get back to work but I had stuff I wanted from you in the second half of my first post of the day.


Was I happy for Vax to die when I put him at L-1?

Pretty much - I was fairly convinced I'd caught scum, but it just seemed too easy, and too many times in the past I've been 100% convinced someone was scum, only for them to then flip town.

I wanted to consider it rationally before committing to my vote.


See this is where my only problem with you this whole game lies.
I feel like town would be motivated to chill out and to find the second scum.

You did eventually with HS but it seemed to me like your instinct was just wanting to be sure on Vax and that would suffice to go for a lynch.


Well, if we lynched scum on D1 there would be no night phase, so it wouldn't have been essential to find both scum there and then.

In post 186, Elliberetta wrote:
It's like she want to pressure Tywin but doesn't want to risk turning it into a 1v1 battle, so throws a bit of shade over me at the end (for being online of all things). The tone of her post goes from hostile to suddenly co-operative.


Also r.e. this. Isn't what you just described here more likely to come from town than scum anyways? Have you played in lylo situations before?
General paranoia towards both sides and the constant sway between wanting to settle and not settle and cooperate and not cooperate is a natural mindset in high stakes situations like this. And its certainly what i'm feeling now.


It was more just the sudden change of tone (athough I apparently misunderstood your post). It was like you wanted Tywin to suspect me for not posting while online instead of focusing all his attention on you.

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Post Post #188  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:01 pm

I forgot about the no night thing. >.<
Oops.
I'll rethink about stuff later with that in mind.

yeah the "tonal shift" was me seeing you were around and becoming paranoid. Basically mentally I was like "oh yeah tywin fucked up gottem". And then "oh shit is luca just lurking about".
question was at you though. I can see why its unclear.

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Post Post #189  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:03 pm

like idk even with the no night thing I would have wanted it to prolong just to see interactions surrounding the potential lynch. (e.g. if I thought I caught scum a and delayed the lynch scum b would get antsy etc.)

but I can see why someone would think it doesn't matter either way too.

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Post Post #190  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:51 pm

In post 184, Elliberetta wrote:and "online of all things"? If you were online and purposefully just not posting and just chilling thats a major major scumtell at this point. (what holiday is it for you btw >.>) I accept its probably nothing after checking your activity other places though.

Lol that's not a scumtell.

Honestly, there's pros and cons for both of you right now. I am going back and forth. This is my first time being in Lylo.
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Post Post #191  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:51 pm

Also Elli does have a point regarding finding the whole two scum, not just one thing.
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Post Post #192  (ISO)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:47 pm

Day 2 VC 2

Not Voting: Luca Blight, TywinL, Elliberetta

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-17 16:30:00)

With 3 players, it's 2 to lynch!
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Post Post #193  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:44 am

In post 191, TywinL wrote:Also Elli does have a point regarding finding the whole two scum, not just one thing.



And how does that point relate to the three of us?

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Post Post #194  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:23 am

Basically, this is where I'm at:

Tywin looks more scummy on the surface through his general lack of content and laid-back approach. It seems as though he's content to see others do the work while he just follows on afterwards.

Eli looked pretty town on D1, but then it's always hard to tell when scum are looking for scum. If I hadn't seen her alt-slip I'd probably be more sure of her being Town now, but obviously she's a much more experienced player than Tywin so would do a lot better as scum. Her stance today makes me feel a bit uneasy with how on the fence she is - I would have expected that from Tywin, but I expected her to be a bit more assertive after D1.

So yeah, I'm really torn here.

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Post Post #195  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:06 am

If you're town I'm suprised you feel that way given that this absolutely a situation to be on the fence in.
You were assertive D1 too so you should understand that it was because it was fucking easy.
Vax slipped and HS played like crapped. I thought that was most likely gg.

There are no smoking guns right now like yesterday for either of you.

Have you played lylos before?

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Post Post #196  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:26 am

Yes I have.

I see you're back to your assertive self again. Nice to have you back.

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Post Post #197  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:28 pm

I already explained that. If you think I'm scummy because I am not putting in too much work, well that's just my playstyle. I don't like to make giant cases on people with big walls.
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Post Post #198  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:31 pm

I'm trying to rack my brain for anyway that Elli can manipulate the kills so that it looks like Luca is more guilty. Because I really am trying to keep an open mind to all of the possibilities and I keep going back and forth.
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Post Post #199  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:31 pm

Because Elli came in and said that Luca is most likely to be scum given the night kill analysis.
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