Micro 756: Extra Communication Mafia GAME OVER!
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If this is addressed to me, then I didn't imply any such thing.In post 273, MathBlade wrote:If you really meant yourself fucking label it as such and don't imply it is mine.- Fishythefish
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Just to make her double-check, because I tend to think that town claim information too little.In post 268, skitter30 wrote:
I feel like if she's town and this was a good idea she would have done this already? Not sure why you're asking for this.In post 261, Fishythefish wrote:Are any of the abilities you are aware a) dangerous for the town if scum hold them, and/or b) very much more useful for scum than town? If so, I think you should just claim them.
I don't think there's a lot of alignment info to read into this claim. I think the role would have moderate utility for either scum or town.- skitter30
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It wasn't directed towards anyone in particular so much as making a point.In post 272, fferyllt wrote:Who are you asking. And what are you asking?
All that they know is that you know their role. If true, it makes your role legit, but doesn't really help with your alignment.In post 274, GinghamDog wrote:You're right, I was a little TOO vague on the first one because all PRs go through the mod. I'll elaborate just a little more. The role involves PMing the mod not with an action, but with a kind of message. Whoever has this ability will know I'm legit.
It's not explicitly bastard apparently, but I agree with the general sentiment.In post 275, Flubbernugget wrote:Not a fan of even the soft claims atm. It's a bastard jingle setup. That's enough to assume they don't have the dynamics you think they do.
I'm ambivalent. I don't think the role is inherently AI.In post 277, Fishythefish wrote:I don't think there's a lot of alignment info to read into this claim. I think the role would have moderate utility for either scum or town.- fferyllt
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It's also sort of a two-ability role. If we see town flips that are all one-ability, give that some thought.- Ghostlin
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What do you mean it's a two-ability role?In post 279, fferyllt wrote:It's also sort of a two-ability role. If we see town flips that are all one-ability, give that some thought.- fferyllt
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- neighborhoodIn post 281, GinghamDog wrote:
What do you mean it's a two-ability role?In post 279, fferyllt wrote:It's also sort of a two-ability role. If we see town flips that are all one-ability, give that some thought.
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I'm not sure I would classify extra info as an 'ability' per se...In post 282, fferyllt wrote:
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What do you mean it's a two-ability role?In post 279, fferyllt wrote:It's also sort of a two-ability role. If we see town flips that are all one-ability, give that some thought.
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I forgot that neighbours can be town or scum. Was probably too quick to unvote.In post 280, Ghostlin wrote:Believing GD's role exists =/= believing its AI in anyway. For the record, I believe the claim.
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It's like having a really limited Role Cop at the beginning of the game; you know certain things are true about the setup.In post 283, Chip Butty wrote:
I'm not sure I would classify extra info as an 'ability' per se...In post 282, fferyllt wrote:
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What do you mean it's a two-ability role?In post 279, fferyllt wrote:It's also sort of a two-ability role. If we see town flips that are all one-ability, give that some thought.
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I said I was going to catch up but I had a four course meal I needed to cook and entertaining surprise me out of no where.
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I liked his initial pushback against ffery, but 65 seemed unnecessary. I also didn't see this when I made an earlier summary post but 30 was a really weird way to go about defending himself, it feels a bit like a last ditch defense. Like I could see him realizing he had made that mistake and then trying to cover up by making it seem like a personal attack.
Actually, he backtracks/tries to explain his reasoning twice, 21 and 65, which feels scummy to me. I feel like scum would notice those gaps in arguements and feel the need to cover them up much more then town would.
I think his defense of ffery is also interesting because he's not really defending her actions, he's defending her over the logic of not voting other players. So if ffery flips scum, there won't be much evidence of him actually defending her, but more defending her logic. The only thing that actually defends ffery's actions would be on 191, and there he's like "eh not really sure let's figure it out another day". He keeps delaying explaining what he thinks of ffery's actions, now that I think about it. It's not just 191, but 246 too.
So might as well, @Ghostlin what about ffery's posts make you townread her?- Flairs
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I feel like an Informed Neighbor who was scum would be wayy too powerful
273 seems weird. I had asked for a game, ffery supplied. ffery found another game and posted it. Not entirely sure if you just weren't paying attention or . . .?
ANyways off to read ffery's town game now-
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Where do you put the likelihood of ghostlin + ffery in light of ghostlin's various pushes and defenses of her?In post 287, Flairs wrote:I think his defense of ffery is also interesting because he's not really defending her actions, he's defending her over the logic of not voting other players. So if ffery flips scum, there won't be much evidence of him actually defending her, but more defending her logic. The only thing that actually defends ffery's actions would be on 191, and there he's like "eh not really sure let's figure it out another day". He keeps delaying explaining what he thinks of ffery's actions, now that I think about it. It's not just 191, but 246 too.
244In post 288, Flairs wrote:@Gingham which of skitter's posts are pinging scum the most?
Neighbors can, but do you think an informed neighbor is more likely to be scum or town?In post 284, Chip Butty wrote:I forgot that neighbours can be town or scum. Was probably too quick to unvote.-
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I found it a little odd that you have three votes, yet this is the only thing you post.In post 275, Flubbernugget wrote:Not a fan of even the soft claims atm. It's a bastard jingle setup. That's enough to assume they don't have the dynamics you think they do.- Ghostlin
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At some point if you believe 3 people are likely to be scum, and only any two of them can be, you need to acknowledge that fact that you're wrong at least on one and vote your best scum suspect anyway.In post 268, skitter30 wrote:I agree with you, but I guess I was saying that I don't really get the significance of this in the context of my post."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer- Ghostlin
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No it wouldn't. Scum Role Cop is a role. Scum Neighbor is a role. Informed Scum Neighbor would just be a lesser combination of the two. They would get setup spec on certain roles to watch for plus a chance to mislead a certain Town player, which isn't really too powerful if scum doesn't have an investigative this game.In post 289, Flairs wrote:I feel like an Informed Neighbor who was scum would be wayy too powerful
273 seems weird. I had asked for a game, ffery supplied. ffery found another game and posted it. Not entirely sure if you just weren't paying attention or . . .?
ANyways off to read ffery's town game now
This almost reads "I don't want to be caught on this lynch.""You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer-
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I don't think scum Ffery pushes Town Ghostlin nearly as hard as she has this game (at the beginning of it), for one. I think she'd take a path of lower resistance with this slot.In post 287, Flairs wrote:So might as well, @Ghostlin what about ffery's posts make you townread her?
Two, the self-meta points? So far she's right on each and everyone of them. So if scum ffery came with a list of her meta to rebuff certain points that came up edited to my precise concern, this is unlikely to be scum ffery.
Three, I have information you don't, and I'm not giving it to you now."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer- Ghostlin
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I think you mean who's my top scum read rather than flutter? (I am currently Town reading and will probably let you lynch me over ffery at this point.)In post 294, GinghamDog wrote:@Ghost who is your top scum read other than ffery?
I mean, it's really mostly Flutter at this point. His last few posts read setup-spec-rather-than-scumhunting to me.
If you were to put a gun to my head and force me to produce another read, Flair's 289 is wrong and also rings the wrong bells to me. It seems she either wants to passively white knight you by debunking the speculation swirling around your role or distance herself from your maybe lynch. There are not really any scenarios that I can think of off the top of my head that town!flairs makes that claim.
I'm either Town reading most everyone else (ffery, CB, skitter, tiny bit MB although 273 seems really over the top for a probable misunderstanding) or the rest of it is various shades of null that I don't mind voting end of Day 1, but wouldn't vote now."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer- fferyllt
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What's your Fishythefish read?- Ghostlin
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I see Fishy's points in voting GD, but it being Day 1, that could be GD being conservative with her vote. If you were to force me to null-sort them, tinnnnnnny town lean to fishy, tinnnnny scum lean to GD, but those are on the weakest reasons."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer - Ghostlin
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