Micro 753: Votefuckery (Game Over)

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Why didnt you answer my question?
Also why would gork defend you?

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I mean, who am I kidding I already know who is scum.

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If im alive past being globally townread is coz scum wants me to be here.
So all I have to do is flip my reads upside down.

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Alisae... got anything to share with the class?

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Alisae/SS?

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Honestly, nothing would surprise me at this point, and that's probably why im not dead.

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That's what i just said!

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Ok, NM is like the only one with a semblance of being towny in this game.

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You sort me by putting me in the town pile

Cant argue with this logic, dont you think?

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what? i'm only treating nm as town because i don't think scum has 2 vote thiefs....

Actually, scum having ANY vote thief is already OP.

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yesterday was should've been 6v2 if today's mylo, so a vote thief would make it 5v3, which means town needs unanimous compromise to lynch scum, throw in the fact that town is stupid (like me) and vote affecting roles and things get even more impossible to win already.

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Yeah NM is only scum if Ali is scum anyway.

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Buuuut i think NM is town soooooo.

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At this point i wanna chance it, because i already complained enough about this game's balance yesterday, but you know my stance on it.

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When thinking of NM's role, if you think about it from an informed perspective is really unfair for us, when you think it from an uninformed perspective however, while it's BS he targeted me, he's adding a vote to someone he knows to be town... himself.

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I don't push my scumbuddies as information lynches
I push them as scumfucks

Also when Ali said this, it's like when Ali 1v1 with SS.

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So i'll wait for everyone else, if people want to disagree/agree with what i've posted they're free to.

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What if Alisae was just D2 voteless scum to offset a town D1 voteless ASP?

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I mean an Alisae/RC team would have #rekt me during the night tho.

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It's more of "You've been my highest TR all game and im still alive"

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Clearly a scum RC that wants to ML would have send me to the Dead PT.

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*ML you

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Yeah, beause RC would predict i'd get paranoid, yeah, uh huh

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and then scum!RC is going to win the game
and post game you are going to regret letting Cowbells ML me like this.

Actually if this is true i wouldnt even be mad because the game was BS unbalanced to begin with, specially if RC's role is scum.

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RC was proven double voter D2, and if today wasnt mylo, could've been proven triple voter (if he was telling the truth).
Tell me how is that scum.

Meanwhile you were only proven not having a vote D2, either by someone stealing it or by part of your role, and in either of those cases + RC scum, this is unbalanced as F and i dont regret not lynching RC if he wins.

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ok it's Ali/SS, im convinced now.

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and then scum!RC is going to win the game
and post game you are going to regret letting Cowbells ML me like this.

Actually if this is true i wouldnt even be mad because the game was BS unbalanced to begin with, specially if RC's role is scum.

i don't think rc + asp is that unbalanced. especially if rc is the vote thief and thats where he gets his extra votes which seems plausible given the whole didn't have one d1 thing

ASP got a vote back in D2, if on top of that RC is scum, that's 3 votes on the side of scum (on the trade for 1 vote on scum side D1)
How the hell are you not seeing this.
Meanwhile you keep shifting our focus to ASP, i think ASP is the scum designated ML now that RC's role doesnt make sense as scum.

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RC was proven double voter D2, and if today wasnt mylo, could've been proven triple voter (if he was telling the truth).
Tell me how is that scum.

Because he is lieing?
It works around your vote freezer.

VC 2.5

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Not_Mafia (2):

A Simple Plan, Gorkington

A Simple Plan (1):

northsidegal

northsidegal (5):

RadiantCowbells

, Sobolev Space, Not_Mafia, Sakura Hana,

RadiantCowbells

Not Voting:

Everyone Else

With

???

votes available,

5

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2017-12-01 18:17:44)

Much lying, very wow

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Anyway let's assume you're right and that im wrong, and RC is scum and you're town, even then there's other 2 townies around from which 1 of them needs to be convinced you're scum for scum to be able to win here.

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(And im not even voting yet, coz even if im convinced i wanna see how everyone else reacts to this)

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How the hell are you not seeing this.

Are you scum?
Because if me and SS are apparently a "Team" in your mind, then you wouldn't be saying this.

Yeah cut the rest of the quote where it shows that's part of why i think she's your partner, because that totally makes sense for a towny to do

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Whatever

Even then, it makes LESS sense for scum me to go after you, if im scum with RC i'd just push towards ASP, if im scum with ASP i'd push towards RC, while continue being globally TR.
No matter how you look at it, my push on you is the LEAST thing i'd do as scum.

Oh right, now that i dont TR you, you're now finding excuses to push wherever.

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Little by little Ali's showing eir true colors.

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You wanna know who's been pushing whatever he fucking wants
Radiant Fucking Cowbells and you're apparently not seeing it because you think whatever scumteam he's shoots you
when that is not ever the most optimal shot considering how easy it is to sway your opinion.

Says the person who was just calling me scum a couple of posts earlier.

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You wanna know who's been pushing whatever he fucking wants
Radiant Fucking Cowbells and you're apparently not seeing it because you think whatever scumteam he's shoots you
when that is not ever the most optimal shot considering how easy it is to sway your opinion.

Says the person who was just calling me scum a couple of posts earlier.

Oh so now when I do it its scummy

No, just saying you were calling me scum a couple posts ago, what happened to that? did you realize it's impossible for scum me to go after you, i'd sooner bus whatever partner i have and keep the global TR than risk the attention.

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I've already thrown any semblance of balance in this game.
But Ali seems to think scum has a double voter on D2, and a player that can remove eir vote.

#TotallyBalanced

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I've already thrown any semblance of balance in this game.
But Ali seems to think scum has a double voter on D2, and a player that can remove eir vote.

#TotallyBalanced

Again
and hopefully for the last time
RC does not have a 3rd vote.

who's talking about a 3rd vote?

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I've already thrown any semblance of balance in this game.
But Ali seems to think scum has a double voter on D2, and a player that can remove eir vote.

#TotallyBalanced

Again
and hopefully for the last time
RC does not have a 3rd vote.

who's talking about a 3rd vote?

You were

But not in the post ali quoted.

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Oh, and yeah I wanted to point that out. GIF would make an unbalanced setup for sure but like unbalanced in broad strokes. GIF wouldn't make a situation where scum had control of 3/6 votes on D2 because that's shit design like I believe that he would make a badly designed setup but there's a certain line here that's different from just not putting in town power.

If Alisae is town and I am scum then scum had vote majority on D2 if we hadn't lynched on top of one of town's votes being potentially locked into hammering.

Setup spec wise no one should believe that.

And the winner is....


RC!


Good someone here is actually using their head.

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actually it'd be 3/7 votes (with scum double voter), but it's still pretty bad.

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5v2 > town -1 vote > scum 2x voter > 4v3.

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RC was proven double voter D2, and if today wasnt mylo, could've been proven triple voter (if he was telling the truth).
Tell me how is that scum.

Meanwhile you were only proven not having a vote D2, either by someone stealing it or by part of your role, and in either of those cases + RC scum, this is unbalanced as F and i dont regret not lynching RC if he wins.

Also yeah, i mentioned that before, in the post i talked about RC's double vote (didnt reference the potential triple vote because it's true he could've been lying about it), the double vote was proven, ali's lack of vote was proven, it's impossible for ali to be town and RC scum, the opposite is possible, or both scum or both town.

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actually it'd be 3/7 votes (with scum double voter), but it's still pretty bad.

You're forgetting the existence of the hammerer.

1 vote is removed, 1 vote is added to scum, 1 vote isn't controlled by town.

Scum could pile all 3 of their votes and instalynch someone if I was scum.

the auto hammerer was non consecutive, and even then my vote freeze could prevent it from triggering

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The only reason it was active D2 is coz i froze bee's vote D1.

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You're right tho, although that is more like an "if all the stars align" scenario, if i hadnt frozen bee's vote D1 and we had achieved a lynch, D2 could've been pretty nasty with a town ali and a scum RC.

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And that's ignoring the possibility for me to save up my votes till d3, bus my partner before then, then instalynch someone on D3 and be locktowned for it.

That part of your role remained unproven tho.

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it's impossible for ali to be town and RC scum

I mean
thats clearly what is happening
but I mean hey
apparently no one wants to lynch scum when I push it so...

If you're gonna ignore my posts instead of properly replying to them im just gonna ignore yours.

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Hey Sakura
IMPORTANT TIP
ROLE
IS NOT
EVER
ALIGNMENT
INDICATIVE

So sensor isnt alignment indicative then, got it.

Like are you out of your mind?

if RC is scum here idc if i lose, but i will give GIF a piece of my mind about balance.

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no matter how you paint it, i have a hard time seeing scum having the ability to auto lynch town D2 and forcing surprise lylo.

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No, im p.sure that's how ali talks in general

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And even if that sort of typing was alignment indicative, i've only seen ali type like that as town, so.

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Sorry Ali, i know you're mad at me, either because you're frustrated im not seeing what you're seeing or because you're caught scum, and either way im not getting alignment indicative responses during all this, so im just gonna back off for now and let everyone else's opinion be heard.

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I do admit i didnt like 2033 tho.

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Also Alisae raging in caps is something that I've literally never seen before from him as town

I have

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Why are you lying about Ali's meta, RC?

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pedit fuck off sakura you can lynch me if your conclusion is that I'm lying about his meta rather than that I understand his meta better than you do.

Okay
VOTE: RC

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Also first of all im going to tune out any AtE/Insults coming from you RC, I know you did that as scum with a guilty on you before, and the first instance I see of it i'll stick my vote in your face.

Don't say i didnt warn you.

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Also first of all im going to tune out any AtE/Insults coming from you RC, I know you did that as scum with a guilty on you before, and the first instance I see of it i'll stick my vote in your face.

Don't say i didnt warn you.

You're losing the game as much as I am.

AtF now?

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Sorry about before Ali, I really am, I just ended up being another reason for you to leave the site.

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RC's scum partner can hammer for town points!

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^ Scum claim

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@RC

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Alisae you're an appalling human being and I'm not playing mafia with you ever again.

VOTE: RC

You're the one who lied about Ali's meta, GOOD THING i've played with Ali before to see through it.

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tbh even if rc is scum we should've lynched asp today

Why? whatever role he has wont work, coz tomorrow will still be MyLo.

Also if that self hammer was as town I'm going to have words.... WORDS

So yeah RC is scum.

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If RC had just shut up today he would won

the sad thing, is that this is probably true

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He didn't antagonise you to the win, you overplayed your hand

^
This

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Anyway sorry for stressing you Ali.

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Also whether I was seriously scumreading Ali, or fueling the 1v1 to bait RC.

I'll leave that to your imagination.

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Just remember
that role isn't alignment indicative
play is

Stupid scum vigs...

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I'm bored now, and mod's probably asleep, i should probably sleep too

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I PM'd GIF on discord, but his thingy is yellow and hasnt changed to green, most likely he's sleeping.

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Ah screw it i cant even keep up the trolling.

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While you're, if you could ask for an

extended night

, that would be great

lol

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RC is flipping town, SORRY!

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RC self hammering was fun to watch.

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Good NK, i was gonna hard push Ali on the last day.
Well no regrets, this game had no balance anyway.
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Nah i was gonna push ASP

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everyone criticizing the mod during the game for perceived balance issues based on perceived roles and alignments: y'all are dicks. Ypu know at least one person is lying and it could be anyone. All vote stealing power was in town hands, and no information giving roles were included (it appears)to either alignment. Most useful roles were non-subsequent helping to nerd them pretty well.

Lol, even the mod told me it was a troll setup, so i dont really care about the balance or the loss.

And so the final chapter in the book of Sakura Hana ends...
To be continued... maybe sometime in the far future.