Micro 767: Spyro the Dragon Mafia - Game Over

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Post Post #500  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:15 pm

In post 499, Wisdom wrote:i dont see north in your list

north is null and your hammered btw
so...i don't get enough sleep

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Post Post #501  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:25 pm

oh am i? well lynch north and then bu and you should win

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Post Post #502  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:27 pm

In post 501, Wisdom wrote:oh am i? well lynch north and then bu and you should win

? i am assuming you mean you are town. . .

your not hammered btw. notice how i became a VT after day one ended.


your reaction was good
so...i don't get enough sleep

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Post Post #503  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:52 pm

obviously im town, duh

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Post Post #504  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:56 pm

In post 503, Wisdom wrote:obviously im town, duh

well then. i need to do some sirious rereading. I actually think that there is a scum micro managing this current POE.

so

BU
North
gara

i want to reread their iso's and try to find where exactly this POE came from because there is some serious bull shit with it
so...i don't get enough sleep

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Post Post #505  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:03 pm

In post 437, BuJaber wrote:VOTE: wisdom

Garaputo is next in case wisdom is town. Let's flip assumptions upside down.

way to set up the next misslynch. :wink:
In post 460, BuJaber wrote:Likewise garap. Yeah I've been townreading you forever, but that is what makes you dangerous alive if we don't lynch scum today, because you could be scum and the only way I'd know is through a guess or process of elimination.


This is frustrating. I get nsg's point. So I reread UCV's ISO. I should have done it earlier. UCV's ISO is lacking. His RVS vote seems too unrandom. From what I can see the only people he's suspected all game were Rat and me.
From what I gather there is also a meta change from his town game. Whether that definitely means he's scum I'm not sure.

It also occurs to me that just because I was wrong with rat doesn't mean I've been wrong about wisdom/garaputo. And it is very difficult to play if you never trust your reads/instincts.

Okay if UCV is telling the truth and town then he is just a VT now. So worse case scenario we hit another VT.

Because of how wisdom is playing his lynch will always be debated. So maybe we don't need to lynch him first.
Wisdom why are you suspecting nsg?

VOTE: UCV

okay guys. we should lynch UCV now that he is VT. because no it isn't a problem. . .

you would think if he thought i would scum, he would vote me when i had that OP ability
In post 478, BuJaber wrote:Ucv .. nsg ? Can you vote please?

wow. calm down. you don't need to rush or anything. unless your scum. then you would wan't people to shut up and just lynch people
In post 495, BuJaber wrote:Garaputo put your vote back. That way anyone can hammer. Normally time is on our side but people are only getting less interested in this game.

Also wisdom I don't think it's as black and white as you're implying .. scum could easiky lose interest when one of them is dead and there's a wagon on the other.


Pedit - yes exactly .. so gara moving his vote doesn't make sense.

continues to push lynches without trying to scum hunt or take any time
In post 443, BuJaber wrote:
In post 441, Wisdom wrote:tbh we can just keep lynching until we win

scum dont seem like they can kill after all



My thought exactly, but does anyone else think if UCV is scum we're just screwed? I am not prepared to suspect him. With the exception of Khan and UCV, I will lynch everyone else one by one.

tbh Khan I wouldn't be shocked if nsg were scum, and it's not like wisdom will vote for himself.

hmm. i wonder where his 180 from me being town to me being scum came from. . .

VOTE: BU
so...i don't get enough sleep

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Post Post #506  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:16 pm

VOTE: bu

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Post Post #507  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:30 pm

Works for me VOTE: BU

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Post Post #508  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:12 pm

In post 471, Wisdom wrote:uc has two votes? works for me

VOTE: uc

In post 472, UC Voyager wrote:no. i only have one now.
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Post Post #509  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:14 pm

In post 500, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 499, Wisdom wrote:i dont see north in your list

north is null and your hammered btw

In post 501, Wisdom wrote:oh am i? well lynch north and then bu and you should win

In post 502, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 501, Wisdom wrote:oh am i? well lynch north and then bu and you should win

? i am assuming you mean you are town. . .

your not hammered btw. notice how i became a VT after day one ended.


your reaction was good

In post 503, Wisdom wrote:obviously im town, duh
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Post Post #510  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:17 pm

i feel like youre trying to say something here

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Post Post #511  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:21 pm

Tells UCV to lynch north then me when he thought he was dead.
Then votes me.
Was that not genuine advice from a dying VT or did you have a brain fart? It doesn't matter but it feels personal.

If you both are townreading each other that leaves nsg as the probable scum. Don't see why either of you would bother doing this if scum you would just vote the other. Seems like too much effort.
VOTE: nsg

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Post Post #512  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:22 pm

All we needed was ucv here .. that was easy. Nsg dies day 3 if you guys still lynch me and see my flip. If he also is town we probably lose.

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Post Post #513  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:23 pm

bu, for one wisdom quite clearly knew he wasn't dead. for two, what happened to your ucv scumread? do you think it's outside of ucv's scumgame to fake a hammer on someone?
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Post Post #514  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:24 pm

VC 2.04garaputo (0)-
northsidegal (1)- BuJaber
Wisdom (1)- Kublai Khan
BuJaber (3)- UC Voyager, Wisdom, garaputo (L-1)
UC Voyager (0)-
Kublai Khan (0)-

Not Voting (1)- nortsidegal

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-01-23 00:00:00) - Jan 23rd Midnight GMT
Stomp/Attract/Milk Drink/Rollout

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Post Post #515  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:33 pm

I don't know ucv's scumgame. My scumread was because I thought your case was convincing and him using setup to show how 'op scum day 1 double vote would be' was a weak defense. Actually I suppose it does make sense for scum!ucv to muddy up my image here. Wisdom doesn't care regardless of alignment he'll vote anybody, garaputo is on the fence with me.

Is it clear wisdom knew? If he's scum he doesn't know for sure ucv was telling the truth... though tbh it would be a dumb lie. Hmmm

So who are you voting for?
And let's see what Khan has to say.
Also I'd like everyone to answer this question: there aren't any nights but do you think a dayvig for day 2 would be scum's only kill the whole game?

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Post Post #516  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:40 pm

Man his theatrics worked on me like a charm.. I'm ashamed. Thanks nsg you have a way of making me re question life itself.
UCV is very likely scum nevermind like he doesn't even try to go after nsg or defend hiimself.. he 'tests' wisdom, wins him over, then puts together a case that doesn't fit this game because he igmorrs all context of this game. My posts aren't scummy in a nightkess game where one scum is already dead.

VOTE: UCV

It's possible ucv has killing power day 3. If he successfully gets me lynched he only needs 2 more mislynches.

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Post Post #517  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:47 pm

i'm still a bit paranoid about your switching but that reaction seems genuine. even if ucv is scum (which i think is the case) i would doubt that he has killing power in addition to the doublevote.

VOTE: ucv
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Post Post #518  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:07 am

Wisdom's reaction was fucking gold. He gives a scum read and confirms he is town. Everyone currently voting wisdom should unvote.

My case works entirely in context.

The POE was total bullshit and it was formed by scum.


You are the person pushing us and where is your scum hunt. You just say "UCV and wisdom are lurking, POE". Lurking doesn't mean someone is scum.
so...i don't get enough sleep

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Post Post #519  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:22 am

In post 518, UC Voyager wrote:Wisdom's reaction was fucking gold. He gives a scum read and confirms he is town. Everyone currently voting wisdom should unvote.

My case works entirely in context.

The POE was total bullshit and it was formed by scum.


You are the person pushing us and where is your scum hunt. You just say "UCV and wisdom are lurking, POE". Lurking doesn't mean someone is scum.


Lurking doesn't mean someone is not scum either. See also: AFM this game.

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Post Post #520  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:23 am

wisdom's reaction was utterly meaningless. he knew for a fact the whole time that he wasn't lynched. i didn't think 505 merited a response, but here:
In post 505, UC Voyager wrote:okay guys. we should lynch UCV now that he is VT. because no it isn't a problem. . .

you would think if he thought i would scum, he would vote me when i had that OP ability

that's not at all what bu was saying in the post that you quoted – it's really only a minor part, making this a total misrepresentation. let's review what bu actually said as to why you're scum:
In post 460, BuJaber wrote:Likewise garap. Yeah I've been townreading you forever, but that is what makes you dangerous alive if we don't lynch scum today, because you could be scum and the only way I'd know is through a guess or process of elimination.


This is frustrating. I get nsg's point. So I reread UCV's ISO. I should have done it earlier. UCV's ISO is lacking. His RVS vote seems too unrandom. From what I can see the only people he's suspected all game were Rat and me.
From what I gather there is also a meta change from his town game. Whether that definitely means he's scum I'm not sure.

It also occurs to me that just because I was wrong with rat doesn't mean I've been wrong about wisdom/garaputo. And it is very difficult to play if you never trust your reads/instincts.


Okay if UCV is telling the truth and town then he is just a VT now. So worse case scenario we hit another VT.

Because of how wisdom is playing his lynch will always be debated. So maybe we don't need to lynch him first.
Wisdom why are you suspecting nsg?

VOTE: UCV



In post 505, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 443, BuJaber wrote:
In post 441, Wisdom wrote:tbh we can just keep lynching until we win

scum dont seem like they can kill after all



My thought exactly, but does anyone else think if UCV is scum we're just screwed? I am not prepared to suspect him. With the exception of Khan and UCV, I will lynch everyone else one by one.

tbh Khan I wouldn't be shocked if nsg were scum, and it's not like wisdom will vote for himself.

hmm. i wonder where his 180 from me being town to me being scum came from. . .

VOTE: BU

i already asked this question – it was literally the very next post in the thread, . the fact that you said this tells me that either you deliberately only went through bu's iso with the intention of making a case on him rather than actually trying to sort him, or you deliberately repeated a question that i had already asked and that had already been answered.
washed up (?)

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Post Post #521  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:25 am

In post 518, UC Voyager wrote:The POE was total bullshit and it was formed by scum.

by the way, just because someone else comes up with a lynchpool doesn't mean that you have to follow it. i'm pretty sure there's also a slight element of hypocrisy in blindly sheeping someone else's poe reads and then turning around and accusing that person of being scum for coming up with those reads.
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Post Post #522  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:45 am

I'm all for blindly sheeping responsibly.

Stay classy my friends.

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Post Post #523  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:18 pm

I'd really like it if we lynched someone. Can we make that happen?

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Post Post #524  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:35 pm

someone will vote bu i guess

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