Micro 782: Jester Nightless - Game Over!

[Bicephalous Bob]

UNVOTE: Cooldog

Oh, to be a vanilla townie.

[Bicephalous Bob]

You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partners, [Player Name], [Player Name] and [Player Name].

Abilities:
During the day you may vote for another player.
Factional Communication: You may communicate with your partner here

Win condition:
You win when you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Do mafia goons really have three partners?

[Bicephalous Bob]

hey mutantdevle paraphrase your win condition without looking at your role pm

[Bicephalous Bob]

That means Archwing is lying then.

VOTE: Archwing

This is a serious vote.

[Bicephalous Bob]

There can only be one vanilla jester goon.

[Bicephalous Bob]

mutant is town
full body reveal is town/jester
archwing is the best lynch

[Bicephalous Bob]

Are you saying you're not town/jester? Because I'm not seeing it. What's worse, if you are scum, you're probably not scum with Archwing, which means I'd have to admit I was wrong there.

[Bicephalous Bob]

You could at least have waited until Archwing implicated NM.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Full body reveal seems like a low-hanging vegetable here.

VOTE: Archwing

I could also go for a NK15 lynch for implying there's only one troll VT.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'm pretty sure it does. If not, the jester could just play as a traitor and joint-win at some point.

CoolDog is probably town. Has his heart on his sleeve, asks questions in the public thread instead of the Mafia PT.

Archwing is still the best lynch. In general, I'd prefer a boring lynch over a lynch on a player who is really out there.

[Bicephalous Bob]

And you are just asserting lynches and not actually trying to scum hunt.

I think I am the only one who explained any reads at all at this point. The rest of you are just waiting on the sidelines.

[Bicephalous Bob]

CoolDog is probably town. Has his heart on his sleeve, asks questions in the public thread instead of the Mafia PT.

[Bicephalous Bob]

As for Archwing, I guess you either find his behavior inauthentic or you don't. There's really no reason not to run him up to L-1 at this point, though.

[Bicephalous Bob]

What's your reason for voting full body reveal?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Archwing:

What's your reason for voting full body reveal?

[Bicephalous Bob]

CoolDog is probably town. Has his heart on his sleeve, asks questions in the public thread instead of the Mafia PT.

so your one contribution to the thread was a town read. Fucking great. Remember when I said you weren't scumhunting? Last time I checked, this is different than town hunting.... Boom.

Ok, but why do you think I'd be antagonizing everyone for not giving any reads whatsoever if I wasn't genuinely annoyed by it?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I mean, I kinda regret making the sidelines post, but I can't see any scum motivation for making it.

[Bicephalous Bob]

It's def anti town to say "I'm the only one giving reads" and then literally that's the only read he quotes. The more I think, the more I think hes jester trying to draw the lynch

yeah, I'm not going to explain my read on you before you commit to anything

[Bicephalous Bob]

Archwing:

What's your reason for voting full body reveal?

Don't even understand what this means

What's your reason for voting the guy who posts full-body pictures of his avatar?

VOTE: Kokichi

votes for person, then starts talking about bob instead. Never speaks a word about Kokichi, even when he has posted.

Then,

UNVOTE:
to be safe

Why did you vote in the first place?

Lol thought I was still on Bob. That Unvote was for jester sus

Still? You never voted me.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Also, you always suspected me to be the jester. Why wait to unvote until now?

[Bicephalous Bob]

What's your reason for voting the guy who posts full-body pictures of his avatar?

Wanted to pressure them? Why else would you vote early?

If you understand the concept of pressure, why did you consider my call to run you up to L-1 based on a gut read to be god-awful?

[Bicephalous Bob]

i pressure people to get content. NK15 is someone i want more content from. notice how i've been contributing without being put to l-1?

At the time I asked for your wagon, your ISO was:

Hi! I'm a vanilla jester goon.
I think that was just L-1?
:oops: :oops: mfw when i forgot to count the self vote
Well then
VOTE: Kokichi
why am I the best lynch?

So again, why did you freak out when I suggested we should run you up?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'd say CD, mutant, nk, and full body reveal are likely town.

freak out is a nice misrep. i responded, sure. i actually started disecting the bullshit you were spewing and realized its all fabricated garbage.

I just said your behavior seemed inauthentic to me. What's there to dissect?

sorry to burst your bubble bob.

So you do believe I believe what I'm saying? If not, there's no bubble to burst.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'd say CD, mutant, nk, and full body reveal are likely town.

But I'm either wrong about at least one, or both ZZZX and Elli have to be anti-town.

[Bicephalous Bob]

If Archwing is a jester, I'd be very impressed. I really think he genuinely doesn't want to be lynched.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Eh, Archwing is still less likely to be jester and more likely to be scum

Lynching someone before they reacted to their wagon is the worst idea in this setup

[Bicephalous Bob]

Elli, why did you think Cooldog was less likely to be the jester than Archwing? Archwing seemed genuinely adamant that he would not be wagoned, while we hadn't seen how Cooldog responded to pressure at all.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Also, you said that you were confident that you'd be able to win 3v2 as town. This requires that you'd bring two other townies to lylo who are also able to solve the game. Who are those townies?

[Bicephalous Bob]

I've been thinking arch was jester

why? are you randomly generating reads?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Elli, why did you think Cooldog was less likely to be the jester than Archwing? Archwing seemed genuinely adamant that he would not be wagoned, while we hadn't seen how Cooldog responded to pressure at all.

level 1: yeah lynch me (see not mafia)
level 2: noo don't lynch me (see archwing)
level 3: no pressure on, no indication of wanting to be wagoned (see cooldog)

For all posts prior to this one level 3 is the safe spot.

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Elli, why did you think Cooldog was less likely to be the jester than Archwing? Archwing seemed genuinely adamant that he would not be wagoned, while we hadn't seen how Cooldog responded to pressure at all.

level 1: yeah lynch me (see not mafia)
level 2: noo don't lynch me (see archwing)
level 3: no pressure on, no indication of wanting to be wagoned (see cooldog)

For all posts prior to this one level 3 is the safe spot.

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

wait, that was d2

Also, you said that you were confident that you'd be able to win 3v2 as town. This requires that you'd bring two other townies to lylo who are also able to solve the game. Who are those townies?

I'll figure it out tomorrow.
Depends on today's flip and who the jester is so.
Worst case I'll solve the game and get whoever's left to sheep me.

also 3-2 we need to lynch correctly, but then it'll be 3-1 and we have another spare mislynch.
Makes life easier.

3v2 nightless has a 20% town EV. We are not lynching town today.

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: archwing

zzzx, this is your chance to become confirmed town without doing anything

[Bicephalous Bob]

lol you clearly don't know who I am

It's 99% EV town wins 3-2 since I'm part of the 3. :)

ok but why can't you just use your superior insight to lynch scum today instead of chainlynching town. are you too insecure of your ability to differentiate between scum and the jester?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

also, you forgot to do this

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'm fine with a mutant lynch

that's another townread of mine. do you actually think he's scum? his wagon consists of not "wrong therefore scum" known and the guy you think is jester, with support from elli who tries to chainlynch town of all things

I can see jester!archwing, but we shouldn't try to lynch town (20% EV!), even perfectly null reads are better

I'm willing to lynch zzzx and elli

[Bicephalous Bob]

to be clear, if we mislynch today, town has a 20% of winning assuming random lynches

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: elli

[Bicephalous Bob]

bleh

VOTE: zzzx

[Bicephalous Bob]

Before we possibly enter lylo, is there anyone who does not believe that Archwing is either jester or scum who after day 2 started hiding behind a jester mask? Because he has not done anything but naked voting and bumping today, which is completely out of line with how he presented himself on day 2.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'm starting to think that Elli's interactions with me about Archwing make a lot of sense coming from scum if Archwing is jester or scum. If Archwing is jester, scum!Elli does not want to outright say Archwing is likely jester because it shows he knows Archwing is not scum. If Archwing is scum, scum!Elli does not want to push his partner as jester/scum because then he would have to bus in 3v2. In either case, Elli does not really want to say much about Arch, which was the feeling I got from him.

Also, he's overtly pushing a strategy that favors scum. Not that indicative of alignment on itself, but Elli seems smarter than he lets on.

VOTE: Elli

[Bicephalous Bob]

Can you give game names of of a town game and a scum game of Arch?

[Bicephalous Bob]

my reads were horrible :(

elli, did you actually think you'd get CD lynched?

[Bicephalous Bob]

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