Micro 787 - Small Town Salem [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!]

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VOTE: Li101

I've already forgotten the correct name for Like, so might as well vote that slot

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So, I was thinking a bit on this game just now. Especially in this early RVS, we do not want to put someone at L-1 right now.

I'm also pretty sure we can have at most 2 non-town killing roles, otherwise a single mislynch would end the game. That being said, seeing as how we do not have a role list, and it is likely that we have a Town Investigative who will be much more effective Day 2, I think the right answer today in this setup exclusively may actually be a day 1 no lynch. Any thoughts on that?

UNVOTE:

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I am kinda tempted to break the setup and get us all a win

@Mod if everyone gets that guess right, Does everyone win or the first person to guess? lol

You would just fake claim and take the solo win, wouldn't you?

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I have one of the five slots figured out 100%, probably take a guess at the end of Day 1 just for the chance.

However, I would like to hear on some of you on the idea of a no lynch day 1. Please respond at your earliest convenience.

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I feel like I'm an executioner target

I'm being really metagamey here, but I think the only way a 5 person game works without being just one day to win probably has no Neutral Evil slot, maybe a witch but even that is a stretch.

My purely numbers game based distribution would be: 3-4 town, 1 non-town killer (Mafioso/Arso/WW/GF/SK), 0-1 Surivor/Amne/Witch.

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Some more game breaking sharing.

I think we have at least one out of Citizen/Survivor.
We probably have one of Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout.
I think Jailor/Escort/Doctor is another grouping to put in for the possible third slot of definite towns. I would hope we have at least one of those.
We might have Vigilante/Veteran/Bodyguard.
I'd say if there is a sheriff rather than an investigator, we would probably not have a Godfather in our midst, my guess is a mafioso in any situation, really. Maybe a Werewolf or SK.

I'm going to amend my list to say that Amne is unlikely, as is Retributionist or Medium.

Also, Framer/BMer/Janitor/Disguiser/Consig/Executioner/Jester are all right out the window for me, since I do not think that town could win if we had one of those in our midst.

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Just a reminder that this is a blitz game so if anyone else wants to jump in and start participating in the attempts to game solve, you should do so early in

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First post says that scum are given fake claims, and them claiming their real role breaks the rule of always playing to their win-con.

VOTE: ZZZX

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@mod Wait, by role list, you mean a character list?

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@mod Wait, by role list, you mean a character list?

What do you mean?

Do we need to guess the roles of the people, (i.e. Investigator, sheriff, etc.) or the names of the characters (i.e. John Proctor, Abigail Hobbs, etc.)?

Just the roles. If you guess the names and they're wrong, but you have the roles correct, I won't hold it against you. If you somehow guess the names and the roles correct, I will literally paypal you $50 for that amazing guessing.

Also I'm editing these so I'm not the top poster. LUL
-Kor

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If we are going to lynch someone day 1, I think it should be ZZZX, I don't like the idea of an actual mass claim, I think it's a scum play to try to look like it's pro-win for everyone.

But, right now that's all I have to go on.

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Well a mass claim would not change much imo. And in any case forget it. Y'all lose.

On serious notes however you jumping on this opportunity as an excuse is fairly scummy. Don't you think?

If pushing the first person to do something scummy is scummy, then it's impossible to act towny.

I have reads, and my read is that you are probably scum. If anyone disagrees they are more than welcome to speak up, but the activity level has pretty much included nothing other than me trying to start conversations and you trying to start a mass claim.

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Looks like I need to prodge a bit here.

Still looking at ZZZX as likely scum, but I'm kind of okay with RedFlavor's thinking on Li's speculation. It's a weird role list that pretty much would assure a town loss, and highly suspicious that anyone would think that's the list.

Still on a ZZZX lynch or no lynch Day 1, though.

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Hi, I'm just going to see if the scum could just start posting and whatnot so we can hunt you, that would be great. ZZZX, that means you.

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Hey, if there is no guns in the plane, what if everyone is citizen except one survivor and/or a jester?

Then town has already won. I demand my win now, mod, Pin has solved the game.

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Wait, Pin is Spegy now, right?

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You know what? Doesn't matter because I know pin is not Red, so, just so I don't have to do this later. If pin puts Li at L-1, consider this my intent to hammer.

So, Li should claim if they are at L-1 by the end of the day.

Noted
-Kor

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Okay, so my theory is a bit metagamey, but I don't believe a Jester can coexist with there being mafia in this set up.

Every set up has to be approved by the staff of the site. Jesters, assuming a ToS Jester, rather than, say the Throne of Lies jester, can kill one of the people who voted guilty on them.

If we assume a Jester and one Goon, then there are three townies. Unless there is say, a Bodyguard or perhaps an Escort, if the three townies hang the Jester, the town autoloses with a Jester night kill and a Mafia kill which will then be assured to hit one of the townies as well, the issue becoming the only way town could win, then, is if the Jester and the goon target the same person, but that would be too easy for Jester to break by telling us who they are going to hit during twilight.

Under the assumption that there is a fair chance for the town to win, if there is a Neutral, it is likely not a Neutral Evil. My speculation would solely be survivor if there is a neutral.

Also, it could be no maf and a Neutral Killing, as well.

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Also, it could be no maf and a Neutral Killing, as well.

This is exactly why I'm concerned; right now I'm looking at ZZZ and Li101 as possible Jester and, let's say, serial killer. If that's the case, we should be careful on deciding which on of them is the Jester to not put him in L-1. What do you think?

I guess so... I'm still considering the benefits of a no lynch day 1 as well. I can't really get good reads with a thread where the activity level on two of five is so low.

I'm starting to think maybe a no lynch day 1 is really the right choice, if we have any possibility that there is a Jester, then we are in something similar to MYLO right now.

VOTE: No Lynch

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We have one day left, but ZZZX is pinging me as scum so hard... I want to L-1 so bad. I'll mull it over though.

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Okay, so the idea of claiming, despite the guise of this being an NAI attempt to get everyone a win, still irks me the wrong way. It just seems anti-town.

And now, the catch up is basically, "Don't hang me."

Red, what do you think of ZZZX?

Also, I would like to hear from Li101 a bit more today.

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Intent to hammer

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I'm allowing time for ZZZX to claim if

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he chooses

Fixed gender pronoun.
-Kor

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VOTE: ZZZX

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By the way, the role name for a vanilla townie in this mode is not vanilla, so I didn't believe ZZZX's claim.

VT is allowed. The flavor names for each role varies. Citizen has the widest variance.

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Do we have any results at all?

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I was not directing my question at the mod

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Okay, so it is looking like we didn't have any leads from anyone.

I am currently most suspicious of pin and li, so basically, still tling at the very least on red.

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Okay, so it is looking like we didn't have any leads from anyone.

I am currently most suspicious of pin and li, so basically, still toownleaning at the very least on red.

Why are you townleaning Red I mean he hasn't done too much I think you are trying to pocket him because he started to scumread me and Li is pretty mislynchable so if Red trusts you you will get what you want I'm scumreading you right now for townleaning Red without any explanations VOTE: brass

li had the weird setup guesses which seems scummy.

You might have tried to find a Doctor just now.

I mean, Red's lack of scum activity means that he is the only one I somewhat trust.

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Lack of scum activity because he hasn't posted almost anything I mean Red is pretty null right now because he doesn't have townie activity neither and me looking for the doc was almost the same with you asking if anyone got any results I mean come on I asked for a doctor specifically because I don't know too much about other PRs and really don't see the difference of asking for results so if you don't trust me for asking for the doctor you shouldn't trust yourself and that is crazy

I was asking if any investigatives got guilties.

You were asking for a protective to come out.

My town lean is based solely on POE, and you have personal knowledge that I have done POE in the past and have been right.

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OKAY, SINCE I AM ALL CAPS MY POSTS WILL SOUND ANGRY SO I WILL BE ANGRY TO BE LIKE THAT


BRING ME THE THOSE TRAITOR MAFIAS! NOW!!!

ALSO PINTU WANTING TO OUT DOC IS SUSPICIOUS SO I AM GOING TO KILL HIM
VOTE: PINTURICCHIO

THIS WAS A REACTION TEST ALL ALONG

KNOWING DOCTOR GIVES US 2 TOWNS
I DONT WANTING TO SEE 2 INNOCENT PERSON IS SCUMMY, ONLY POSSIBILITY IS PINTURICCHIO KILLED NO ONE AT NIGHT

At most, a TP outing would just eliminate himself as a scum suspect, and probably his target as another.

My general inquiry into whether there were any results seemed pretty clearly geared towards, without coming out and saying it, can a TI out scum now and possibly win town the game.

I really think Red Flavor could be on to something, but it is way too early in the day to be L-1

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How am I the only 1 with no pr? This is super unfair! Unless I missed it.

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Wait, I missed it. I'm supposed 2 b posting lyk Prince.

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Wait, I missed it. I'm supposed 2 b posting lyk Prince.

Prince like the deceased artist Prince or

lyk the deceased artist. (It actually sez txt speak, but Prince did it first)

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We won the beginning of day 1, according to our role card.

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VOTE: Brass

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Twilight talk, I want out.

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Korina did reveal to everyone that I don't actually read what is sent to me.

I have also openly said that I don't read what is sent to me.

That's the most you are getting out of this game, I think.

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Poor ZZZX

He won, too. All the threats to town were eliminated day 1.

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Sorry, ZZZX, my bad. I was clearly too aggressive.

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This was pretty obvious from when it entered the queue, not gonna lie

It's a pretty common gimmick

I was lied to in the Queue, told it was a serious game.