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Post Post #500  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:20 pm

I suppose it's fair that the game was dragging so we're not always gonna be able to ask extremely thought provoking questions in every last post but it's also a continuous trend: see the semantics battle you recently tried to drag me into....

And I feel like your whole tunnel on charloux revolved around that- like I said and it stuck to the wall for whatever reason and I just don't find activity stuff like that to be all that compelling. Give me reasons why you don't feel like the things he's doing make sense from a town-mindset.

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Post Post #501  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:33 pm

Honestly Charloux has been nulltown for me since he started getting more active, which is why my vote is no longer there. Going to iso him later to see if that changes. Reason for my suspicion in was purely because of your interaction with him, since I was scumreading you at the time. And now I need to rethink that too, since you've actually given some decent reasons for your read.
So many isos, so little time.
Still feel like BTD is a mislynch though.

And you started the semantics argument.

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Post Post #502  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:10 pm

In post 484, Lemons wrote:Culted, asking again, why do you suddenly completely trust karnos' word on his role after scumreading him all day?

@Culted's last post
Same question to everyone but in regard to Culted and Charloux's push on BTD.

A guy claims a PR. If nobody CC's, he is confirmed. If there is a CC we debate. There were no CC's therefore he is confirmed. Anything wrong with this thinking?

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Post Post #503  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:20 pm

In post 502, Charloux wrote:
In post 484, Lemons wrote:Culted, asking again, why do you suddenly completely trust karnos' word on his role after scumreading him all day?

@Culted's last post
Same question to everyone but in regard to Culted and Charloux's push on BTD.

A guy claims a PR. If nobody CC's, he is confirmed. If there is a CC we debate. There were no CC's therefore he is confirmed. Anything wrong with this thinking?

There are two PRs. Neither knows who the other one is.

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Post Post #504  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:42 pm

votecount

BTD6_maker (3): karnos, culted, Charloux
Culted (2): Lemons, BTD6_maker
Charloux (1): Darkshadow64540

not voting (1): rb

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Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.

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Post Post #505  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:47 pm

Then ask Karnos for a full claim. if he is faking it there is a 66% chance we will get a cc. If a pr dies tonight and another says "Hey, wait a minute!" I'm the other PR, Karnos is scum! But for this to work we have to kill scum today.

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Post Post #506  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:49 pm

My read on Lemons is weak-moderate Town. It wasn't any post in particular (just about everything could theoretically be faked) but his ISO overall seems more Townish to me.

Either way, I still consider Culted at roughly moderate scum.

It seems Karnos claimed PR. I am also in favour of Karnos fullclaiming. I am presuming he got an Innocent on GL, in which case GL is cleared provided there is no CC.

I will still not claim until someone gives intent. Claiming now is anti-Town. Is this site meta to claim at L-1? If you were not going to be lynched anyway, why claim and give information to scum?
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Post Post #507  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:54 pm

In post 417, karnos wrote:Shit, I lied. Lemons isn't on my wagon, and he might well quick lynch me if I am correct about him being scum. Please unvote before you allow that to happen, I am a town PR, consider this a soft claim.

In post 420, karnos wrote:No. I checked GL.

Did you really miss this BTD?

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Post Post #508  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:08 pm

In post 506, BTD6_maker wrote:My read on Lemons is weak-moderate Town. It wasn't any post in particular (just about everything could theoretically be faked) but his ISO overall seems more Townish to me.

Either way, I still consider Culted at roughly moderate scum.

It seems Karnos claimed PR. I am also in favour of Karnos fullclaiming. I am presuming he got an Innocent on GL, in which case GL is cleared provided there is no CC.

I will still not claim until someone gives intent. Claiming now is anti-Town. Is this site meta to claim at L-1? If you were not going to be lynched anyway, why claim and give information to scum?


How the he'll did you miss GL getting killed night one?
How can I quote that which is not said?

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Post Post #509  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:19 am

I was off-site when GL was killed and Day 2 started, so it didn't cross my mind.

Although Karnos claiming to check the person who happened to die seems suspicious, but we should wait for a fullclaim.
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Post Post #510  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:50 am

How can we trust your reads? Missing both Karnos's claim and the mafia's target, you CLEARLY haven't been reading the game. There's only one type of player that can make claims without knowing the gamestate...
How can I quote that which is not said?

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Post Post #511  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:51 am

Expressing intent on this scum
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Post Post #512  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:55 am

I was reading Culted for scummy reasoning. You do not need to know who died to say a post of that type is scummy. I forgot about GL dying due to skimming it after my V/LA.
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Post Post #513  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:02 am

I've already stated my opinion on the V/LA
How can I quote that which is not said?

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Post Post #514  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:05 am

Do not lynch me. I will claim, but first I want Karnos to claim fully.
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Post Post #515  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:08 am

You have your intent, you want to wait for the full claim so you can claim a 2nd power role so our actual power role needs to come out to cc you. Plain and simple, I do not trust you.
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Post Post #516  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:09 am

Lynch in 18 hours
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Post Post #517  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:16 am

Mod, exact deadline?
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Post Post #518  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:17 am

I am the Cop.
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Post Post #519  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:23 am

Night one invest results?
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Post Post #520  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:03 am

We now have two PR claims. Now is the time for CCs, otherwise karnos and BTD are confirmed town.

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Post Post #521  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:09 am

In post 515, Darkshadow64540 wrote:You have your intent, you want to wait for the full claim so you can claim a 2nd power role so our actual power role needs to come out to cc you. Plain and simple, I do not trust you.
How can I quote that which is not said?

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Post Post #522  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:10 am

Karnos, are you the cop or not?
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Post Post #523  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:13 am

UNVOTE: - just as a precautionary measure.

If karnos is cop then the other PR shouldn't out. If he's gunsmith then the jailkeeper should claim and we lynch btd either way.
Failing both of those things happening I'd like to lynch lemons.

We have time.

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Post Post #524  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:13 am

@mod Could we get a prod on rb?

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